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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:30 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
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conversationpc wrote:I recorded what I thought was CBS Sunday Morning and it only ended up being 2 hours worth of local news. :evil:


well, whats the weather looking like..? :lol:


Most of it was about the tornado that hit an apartment complex in Indianapolis yesterday, which is just a few miles southeast of us.


:shock: well,, so much for my joke... yikes.. :(


No one was hurt as far as I know. It took the roof off the joint, though, and the people who lived there are not allowed to return.
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:31 am

Just finished watching it for the first time right now..my very first thoughts..and I also just finished watching Tommy and Tom on GMA too..both segments..for the time they had..did a very good job covering the stories of Arnel and Tommy..when it comes to when I hear that 'Boston' is going to be on a tv segment..I understand that it will a lot about the story of Tommy..just like the segment on CBS of Journey covered a lot on Arnel..and how can it not be..with stories like those.. 8) Arnel's even more so..I'm not going to pick apart what what said and how and about who and why..not my thing..I think for the general person who doesn't know about any of the bull..the stories did a good job covering the 'stories' ..
and again..especially Journey and Arnel..in the short time these segments usually get..a lot covered and explained so the general person was able to get caught up..the only thing I will say is that at least kudos for talking a little bit about former singers and Neil on Steve..even brief..you don't normally get these type of short interviews to touch on anything like that.
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:40 am

frfksakes wrote:Watch youtube, I'm sure someone will post the Journey part soon.

Very interesting. I thought it made the band look like jerks, with the whole, replacing Perry bit. But Arnel saved the day with his story. And what a great story it is. I had tears in my eyes.


I've always been amazed how we all walk away from watching these sort of things with such different thoughts and feelings..I just watched Journey's again and it made me feel good..reminded me again how anything is possible even when our situation seems hopeless..reminded me to be happy for someone instead of having pitty for myself..blew me away again that not only is Journey moving on..again..but with someone who can really sing the songs..this was really my first time hearing Arnel do so many diff songs..waiting for the cd and cannot download..so I have really not heard much of him outside of Ellen..

I think as far as the general fan or person who was watching this..that the segment did a good job catching them up..what it could do for how brief these are..and I tried to watch it like a general fan..and acting as if I didn't know the whole story..I didn't feel like the Perry/hip thing made them look bad..I wanted to watch it before reading the post here..and actually that was one of the first sort of interviews like these where I didn't feel weird after watching it or feeling like wow..they said or did that.. :shock:
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:43 am

SteveForever wrote:Arnel is sweet, no doubt about it.


He seems very genuine..and I believe what is cool about that..is that I have to feel it's real because he is already spending time in interviews thinking about how to say what..but in saying that..he spoke better than I expected after some of the things I have read..
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:45 am

*teary eyed* }:~C)

thanks for the yt links! very touching interview... arnel is a very sweet & tender soul. awe... i just want to give him the biggest hug. i hope neal & co treat him always nicely.
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:48 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:man , that was a touching interview...its going to be a sad day if Arnel needs a rest or gets down,, and those guys

stop returning his calls and make comments that he was the next step to the new guy .. etc.. very very bad..



I agree one hundred percent Larry..you and I both..you more so..try not to talk much about the negative aspect of things..but after just watching it again..and knowing that Arnel's story is going to draw people in..and grant them more interviews..it made me realize how crushed he will be if any of the above that you mentioned does happen to him.. :cry:
I believe this could be the true and final test of just how these guys treat people..espcially someone like Arnel who must be REALLT relying on them for SO MANY things if you think about it..you got to wonder what other support system he has besides them because wow..he must be putting so much trust in them if you really think about what they are teaching him..and I don't mean just musically..
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Postby brywool » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:50 am

Wow, what a great story this morning. I actually choked up when they were talking about Arnel's family situation. Holy crap.
Neal looked great and really healthy. Last time I saw him, he was overweight, pasty white, and just looking uninterested.
Today, he looked great, like he's been rejuvenated.

I'm going to catch flack for this...
BUT

Any Way You Want it- at least the live clip of it that they played on CBS is morning, NEVER sounded that good live with Steve Perry. Even on the Captured album. Arnel sings it like the Departure album and Steve Perry always sang it differently live. Maybe it's the mix that the band was using then as compared to now on the harmonies in the song, but the brief live clip they showed this morning blew me away.

Not saying Arnels better or anything, just saying on that song, I've always hated it live because it's always been rushed and that vocal hook that kicks it off never sounded right live until I heard it this morning.

It was a good piece, wish it was longer, but it was way cool.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:53 am

if that ever happens he'll have new fans that will left him up. i would go see arnel solo in a heartbeat. }:C))

when arnel started to tear up no one reached out to him... if i were there i would have been putting my arms around him or rubbing his shoulder... something. i would have been teary too... maybe it's just a chick thing. }:C)

piecesofeight wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:man , that was a touching interview...its going to be a sad day if Arnel needs a rest or gets down,, and those guys

stop returning his calls and make comments that he was the next step to the new guy .. etc.. very very bad..



I agree one hundred percent Larry..you and I both..you more so..try not to talk much about the negative aspect of things..but after just watching it again..and knowing that Arnel's story is going to draw people in..and grant them more interviews..it made me realize how crushed he will be if any of the above that you mentioned does happen to him.. :cry:
I believe this could be the true and final test of just how these guys treat people..espcially someone like Arnel who must be REALLT relying on them for SO MANY things if you think about it..you got to wonder what other support system he has besides them because wow..he must be putting so much trust in them if you really think about what they are teaching him..and I don't mean just musically..
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Postby X factor » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Assorted thoughts....

Arnel came off as a very sincere guy. Charming and suprisingly English fluent, an impression I wasn't left with after the severe hemming and hawing in the Rockline interview.

Not sure how heavy an influence Perry's gang of shysters had regarding this, but his mark seems all over it. Like VH1 BTM, it was produced and written decisively favoring one side of history. There's a mention of the band waiting a year for him to get hip surgery and throwing him out, but absolutely no mention of him holding up the works since ROR.

Ross came off absolutely shameless in his attempts to marry Journey-now to Journey-then.
Practically falling over himself to make the dishonest claim that the band is now "picking up right where it left off" and finally the "magic is back."
Way to sell the past decade of your life down the river, Ross. :roll:

Since Arnel came into the fold, the band has given up it's 1998 rationale for moving on in the first place - that the band was larger than the sum of its parts.
Instead, Jon, Ross, and Neal have resigned themselves to the idea that they were nothing more than King Perry's fiddlers three.
It is as self-destructive a PR approach as I have ever witnessed.

Also, the reporter/producer was totally out of bounds in saying the band didn't capture the magic with their last two singers (as two blurry thumbnails of JSS and SA graced the screen). When Arnel's album bombs or fails to meet expectations, will his era be just as unceremoniously relegated to the gutter heap?
If this gloss-over approach to Steve Augeri initiated from management on down (as is likely), it should give fans a clue as to just what unsavory characters we are dealing with here.


WELL SAID!!!

I'm liking these guys less and less as the days go by....
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Postby tammy » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:04 am

Just finished watching it - it was a nice piece. Of course, love seeing SP and hearing him anytime. I started getting tears when they showed the kids pushing those carts and then when Arnel started choking up about his mother...this is really what it is all about...finding your dreams. And, I really do hope Arnel doesn't ever get treated poorly by the J-team like the prior singers. JC said Arnel makes him a better man - let's hope that stays true and does the same for the rest.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:10 am

I wish Arnel the best of luck. He seems to be a helluva nice guy.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:36 am

When the internet search is shown at the 3:40 mark, isn't that Jeremey singing? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_2UivtEhs
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Postby Calbear94 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:36 am

I just put this up as a zipped torrent.

http://www.geocities.com/sdgaynor/JOURNEY.zip

Enjoy!
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Postby Triple S » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:36 am

2 things:

- Arnel is a sweetheart, I wish him all the best.
- Neal's face doesn't move very much, does it? I think I saw him blink just once :)
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:56 am

JH'sTXfan wrote:When the internet search is shown at the 3:40 mark, isn't that Jeremey singing? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_2UivtEhs


That is Frontiers. Well, Andrew didn't make the show but Jeremey did. :wink:
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Postby ttango1 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:00 am

I said it...I sometimes get the feeling that some posters just ain't happy unless they can find something to complain about.

It doesn't mean anything but damn....haters truly suck.

Go Journey and Arnel...just sing your ass off and the rest will take care of itself.
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Postby Jeremey » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:16 am

JH'sTXfan wrote:When the internet search is shown at the 3:40 mark, isn't that Jeremey singing? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_2UivtEhs


Hey cool! Also, a great story. Really wish Arnel and the band the best of luck this summer!!
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Postby Rick » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:16 am

Calbear94 wrote:I just put this up as a zipped torrent.

http://www.geocities.com/sdgaynor/JOURNEY.zip

Enjoy!


You are the coolest!

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Postby stevew2 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:19 am

JH'sTXfan wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:When the internet search is shown at the 3:40 mark, isn't that Jeremey singing? :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_2UivtEhs


That is Frontiers. Well, Andrew didn't make the show but Jeremey did. :wink:
That sure is Frontiers, thats cool as shit.As far as the interview I must say I was impressed with Arnels honesty and attitude.I had no idea the situation that he came from .As far as the rest of the band {behind him, scarey thought} They were full of shit as always. I would ni expect anything different. Of they wont go in to what really happened with there past lead singers, Augeri being there for 8 years. There was magic with him at some point, remember the Perry with a perm coment .they should have left the other singers alone,if they wernt going to give them credit for what they did,There is no magic with the band without a lead singer that sounds more like Perry ,that says alot about the band.I noticed whem Neal blinked {twice} the left side of his jaw moved.And when Friga said "arnel makes me a better guy", suddenly had cramps and took a full size Friga shit. Did not beleive one word coming out of his anyones mouth but Arnel. I wish him luck,and if they fuck him over like they did the other two, I hope there bus burns. I wonder what Andrew S contribution was Drew???
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Postby Barb » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:30 am

I just watched, and all I want to say is God bless Arnel Pineda.
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Postby Maui Tom » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:33 am

Barb wrote:I just watched, and all I want to say is God bless Arnel Pineda.


I'm with Barb.

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Postby donnaplease » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:41 am

That was a very nice piece. While I do not get behind this incarnation of Journey, I do believe Arnel Pineda is an extremely talented singer who seems very down-to-earth and sincere. I'm glad his dreams are coming true, and wish nothing but the best for him.

I'm a little worried about Ross. He looks like he's aged dreadfully since I met him back in November of '06. I hope he's well.
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Postby stevew2 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:46 am

donnaplease wrote:That was a very nice piece. While I do not get behind this incarnation of Journey, I do believe Arnel Pineda is an extremely talented singer who seems very down-to-earth and sincere. I'm glad his dreams are coming true, and wish nothing but the best for him.

I'm a little worried about Ross. He looks like he's aged dreadfully since I met him back in November of '06. I hope he's well.
I think the bus backed over his face twice on a gravel road
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Postby SteveForever » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:47 am

stevew2 wrote:
donnaplease wrote:That was a very nice piece. While I do not get behind this incarnation of Journey, I do believe Arnel Pineda is an extremely talented singer who seems very down-to-earth and sincere. I'm glad his dreams are coming true, and wish nothing but the best for him.

I'm a little worried about Ross. He looks like he's aged dreadfully since I met him back in November of '06. I hope he's well.
I think the bus backed over his face twice on a gravel road


SteveW, please try to be kinder.
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:52 am

Barb wrote:I just watched, and all I want to say is God bless Arnel Pineda.



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Is that your cute little kitten.. :?:
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:54 am

donnaplease wrote:That was a very nice piece. While I do not get behind this incarnation of Journey, I do believe Arnel Pineda is an extremely talented singer who seems very down-to-earth and sincere. I'm glad his dreams are coming true, and wish nothing but the best for him.


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Postby Barb » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:02 am

piecesofeight wrote:
Barb wrote:I just watched, and all I want to say is God bless Arnel Pineda.



8)


Is that your cute little kitten.. :?:


No, I wish!
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Postby FishinMagician » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:17 am

look like dean's fro is replacing neals
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Postby MarcelJordan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:19 am

I loved it when he sang WITS. Pretty cool.

Great to see the inside CD/DVD sleeve of Revelation :


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Postby Barb » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:20 am

FishinMagician wrote:look like dean's fro is replacing neals


Ha! I noticed that too. :D
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