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Postby blt man » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:34 am

LordofDaRing wrote:I just wonder how it would go over if an American artist wrote a negative song about Canada


Negative song about Canada? How about this one?

Times have changed.
Our kids are getting worse.
They won't obey their parents;
They just want to fart and curse!

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

NO! Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full o' lies!
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:35 am

Jodes wrote:
froy wrote:
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Jodes wrote:Well excuse me Froy.. last time I checked my map the USA was a lot more then Chicago!!

So tell me Froy, when was the last time you heard a DDY-solo song on the radio in Chicago? Does that mean he didn't get any airplay in the USA as well?

Oh and guess what, I bet he doesn't get any airplay in Chicago when he releases 100 Years from now.. whenever that may be (I guess its the fall now, so look for it to be released summer of 09)



Milwaukee, Appleton, Madison (all Wisconsin) radio stations do play DDY solo more often than not. The other day I heard "Grand Illusion" from his live cd. "Desert Moon" is played especially on Fridays here in Milwaukee.

"Save Me" was played a month ago on a Milwaukee radio station :D



I heard Boy 's will Be Boys the other day also
Call Me as well..
Dennis solo is on all the time


Your Ipod doesn't count Froy..


Oh Jodes.I guess you did not know.
But there is an all Dennis station, all the time, all of the day time and all of the night time, any time.
They just played 'Boys will be boys again'.
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Postby classicstyxfan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:42 am

I live in the Madison WI market, and for the record, the last time I heard a Dennis solo song on the radio that wasnt Desert Moon was Call Me, circa 1989. In fact, I havent heard Desert Moon in a long long time either.

Suite, am I listening to the wrong Adult Contemporary station(s) ??


Oh, and is there any word on who will replace LG on Keyboards in Styx yet ? :wink:
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:51 am

classicstyxfan wrote:I live in the Madison WI market, and for the record, the last time I heard a Dennis solo song on the radio that wasnt Desert Moon was Call Me, circa 1989. In fact, I havent heard Desert Moon in a long long time either.

Suite, am I listening to the wrong Adult Contemporary station(s) ??


Oh, and is there any word on who will replace LG on Keyboards in Styx yet ? :wink:


Well Madison and Milwaukee are two different markets, I remember hearing "Desert Moon" a lot on one station generating from either Madison or the Dells area. My favorite station though to listen to when i'm up there is the classic rock station WIBA, who i'm sure does play Styx (that would be like "The Loop 97.9" down here in Chi-Town) 8)



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Postby Zan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:14 pm

Jodes wrote:Your Ipod doesn't count Froy..



lol...funny!

(I also noticed the switch from Larry to JY but I've beaten my head against a wall enough in this thread already ;-))



gr8dane wrote:Oh Jodes.I guess you did not know.
But there is an all Dennis station, all the time, all of the day time and all of the night time, any time.
They just played 'Boys will be boys again'.



Gr8 - could you be more sarcastic? You're gonna put me out of business!
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:21 pm

Zan wrote:
Jodes wrote:Your Ipod doesn't count Froy..



lol...funny!

(I also noticed the switch from Larry to JY but I've beaten my head against a wall enough in this thread already ;-))



gr8dane wrote:Oh Jodes.I guess you did not know.
But there is an all Dennis station, all the time, all of the day time and all of the night time, any time.
They just played 'Boys will be boys again'.



Gr8 - could you be more sarcastic? You're gonna put me out of business!




Doubt that Zannie...you are the queen of sarcasm :wink:

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Postby gr8dane » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:41 pm

Zan wrote:
Jodes wrote:Your Ipod doesn't count Froy..



lol...funny!

(I also noticed the switch from Larry to JY but I've beaten my head against a wall enough in this thread already ;-))



gr8dane wrote:Oh Jodes.I guess you did not know.
But there is an all Dennis station, all the time, all of the day time and all of the night time, any time.
They just played 'Boys will be boys again'.



Gr8 - could you be more sarcastic? You're gonna put me out of business!


My humble apology Zan.
I will will try and hold back a little bit. :oops:
But not too much.
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:42 pm

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Zan wrote:
Jodes wrote:Your Ipod doesn't count Froy..



lol...funny!

(I also noticed the switch from Larry to JY but I've beaten my head against a wall enough in this thread already ;-))



gr8dane wrote:Oh Jodes.I guess you did not know.
But there is an all Dennis station, all the time, all of the day time and all of the night time, any time.
They just played 'Boys will be boys again'.



Gr8 - could you be more sarcastic? You're gonna put me out of business!




Doubt that Zannie...you are the queen of sarcasm :wink:

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Postby froy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:03 pm


Oh, and is there any word on who will replace LG on Keyboards in Styx yet ?


I heard they asked elton John
They figured ticket sales would at least be better and the money would keep rolling in.
That's what Shaw told me he said all we care about is the cash.
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Postby LordofDaRing » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:00 am

Negative song about Canada? How about this one?

Times have changed.
Our kids are getting worse.
They won't obey their parents;
They just want to fart and curse!

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

NO! Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full o' lies!

Ok I bite, who is the artist????
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Postby froy » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:12 am

LordofDaRing wrote:Negative song about Canada? How about this one?

Times have changed.
Our kids are getting worse.
They won't obey their parents;
They just want to fart and curse!

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

NO! Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full o' lies!

Ok I bite, who is the artist????



Looks like Gowan to me
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Postby LordofDaRing » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:22 am

...or Southpark they are always blaming the Canadians for something....although Cartman does a mean Come Sail Away
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Postby stmonkeys » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:27 am

LordofDaRing wrote:Negative song about Canada? How about this one?

Times have changed.
Our kids are getting worse.
They won't obey their parents;
They just want to fart and curse!

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

NO! Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full o' lies!

Ok I bite, who is the artist????



(language warning....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1DTp7FV ... re=related


and of course, from the oscars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBy ... re=related

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Postby Classicrockr » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:44 am

Another thing with the current STYX lineup:

Tommy constantly sings in a "Slow Motion" style. Most of his songs he did last fall were so much slower than previous shows & cd's that have been sold. It's almost like he's stoned...... he needs to pick up the pace by about 1/3 when playing live. This, along with that supreme WANNABE Larry Gowan are RUINING STYX at this moment.

JY did his songs at the correct pace, even though "Miss America" was his biggest one he did. He needs to put different songs in the show-maybe do "Snowblind" or "Half Penny, Two Penny".

Like I said, Like Froy said - the current STYX lineup SUCKS MAJOR ASS & although DDY may not save STYX's world, he might bring back some of the energy they once had.....
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Postby Jodes » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:09 pm

Maybe you were the one that was stoned..

Just how does someone pick up the pace 1/3?

Please do tell..
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Postby Tanirocker » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:23 pm

Classicrockr wrote:Another thing with the current STYX lineup:

Tommy constantly sings in a "Slow Motion" style. Most of his songs he did last fall were so much slower than previous shows & cd's that have been sold. It's almost like he's stoned...... he needs to pick up the pace by about 1/3 when playing live. This, along with that supreme WANNABE Larry Gowan are RUINING STYX at this moment.


Ooh. All caps. It must be true.


Like I said, Like Froy said - the current STYX lineup SUCKS MAJOR ASS & although DDY may not save STYX's world, he might bring back some of the energy they once had.....


HAHAHAHAHA Yeah, right...DDY bringing back energy. Babe and Don't Let It In always energized me. They made me run to the exit.
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Postby Classicrockr » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:42 pm

As far as picking up the pace by 1/3 - that was just an estimate, I didn't know how else to describe it. Like I said, Tommy just seems to sing his songs "slower" than before & osme of them were meant to have a faster pace to them.

As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.
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Postby Zan » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:27 am

Classicrockr wrote:As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.




ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.
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Postby stmonkeys » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:31 am

Classicrockr wrote:As far as picking up the pace by 1/3 - that was just an estimate, I didn't know how else to describe it. Like I said, Tommy just seems to sing his songs "slower" than before & osme of them were meant to have a faster pace to them.

As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.



HUH?????

let me get this straight - you're complaining that the "faster" songs they are doing sound slower and less energetic, but you want them to get back together with dennis so they can do more songs like Snowblind Babe, BOTR which weren't fast paced but had more energy? hmmm... i dont think so.

honestly, i think the band still has more energy than bands half their age. Granted, they lost a lot when glen left, but they are still entertaining and adept at getting the audience involved. more so than a band like boston. most of the styx reviews in recent times (say the past 8 years) have mentioned just how energetic a show they put on. Yes, when they are headlining they step it up a bit more, and i would like to see longer shows, but at this point i'm glad i still have an opportunity to go. Yes, a new song here and there would be a treat, but being realistic, the average joe concertgoer prefers to hear the classics. :(
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Postby Classicrockr » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:41 am

Well, you didn't get it straight.....I wasn't saying those songs had more energy. Nowhere in that statement did I say this, as a matter of fact I specifically said they WEREN'T fast paced. so you shouldn't "think so" because that's not what I said.

Those songs were supposed to be at that slow pace - the ones Tommy is singing slowly at the concerts I've seen aren't supposed to be that slow. When I said they "Did better when they produced these songs" I was referring to the timeframe in the STYX history.

I realize that "Babe" & Don't Let it End" are not fast paced songs, but they weren't supposed to be. When I've seen TS sing "Too Much Time On My Hands" & "Renegade", he's sung them a lot slower than on the original recordings & it ruins them for me.

Why should a band put more energy into an act if they're headlining versus opening? - they should give it all they've got each time.
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Postby Zan » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:47 am

Classicrockr wrote:Why should a band put more energy into an act if they're headlining versus opening? - they should give it all they've got each time.




Well, you know, some of us feel that way about people putting thought into each post they make here, but that doesn't seem to be happening either.
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Postby Classicrockr » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:28 am

Zan wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.




ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.



That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?
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Postby Zan » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:39 am

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ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.



That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?



Yes. It was me. I was there and saw it happen. Because I was producing records for them. :idea:
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Postby Tanirocker » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:46 pm

Classicrockr wrote:
That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?


Wow...exactly what do you think a record producer does?
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Postby elmotano » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:55 am

Classicrockr wrote:
Zan wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.




ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.



That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?


How's it going fraud.....having a good day I hope :roll:
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Postby froy » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:22 am

elmotano wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:
Zan wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.




ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.



That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?


How's it going fraud.....having a good day I hope :roll:


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Postby elmotano » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am

froy wrote:
elmotano wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:
Zan wrote:
Classicrockr wrote:As far as bringing back energy goes, that's meant as a frame of mind issue not simply as a type of song issue. Maybe they'd remember how much better they were when they were together & just put more enthusiasm into their shows. "Babe" wasn't fast paced, but neither was "Snowblind" or Boat on the River". They did better when they produced theses songs than they're doing nowadays so maybe if they were back together they'd put more energy into their shows.




ooohhh. Well, I can certainly understand that logic. Working with people you can't stand is always a great morale builder. Just look at the wonders it worked in 1999. Everyone was practically wetting themselves from the excitement.



That must have been when YOU were producing records for them, right? I mean, that's how you were able to see them wet themselves wasn't it?


How's it going fraud.....having a good day I hope :roll:


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fraud was that meant for me? cool, I always liked the name Adam, it really is original, a first even....nice job.
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