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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby LordofDaRing » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:32 am

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).
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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby Toph » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:37 am

LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).


Or Journey Or Foreigner or Boston or REO Speedwagon...or Kansas...notice a trend here?
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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby chowhall » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:45 am

Toph wrote:
LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).


Or Journey Or Foreigner or Boston or REO Speedwagon...or Kansas...notice a trend here?


I'm with Andrew, The Rock N Roll Hall of Crap.
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Postby sadie65 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:40 am

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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby Rockwriter » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:00 am

LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).



Until Wenner dies or is incapacitated, the Hall can blow me.


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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby MCM » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:55 am

Rockwriter wrote:
LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).



Until Wenner dies or is incapacitated, the Hall can blow me.


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Postby LordofDaRing » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:17 am

Nice article posted therer Sadie, he even mentions Styx in it.

Yawn Weener did die Sterling, at least brain dead years ago. His Rolling Stoned magazine, via its covers, keeps confusing Obama and Gore for Elvis, the Beatles and all other legit rock stars. Some other organization should legitametly start up a Real Rock Hall of Fame and start all over, leaving political correctness and politics completely out of it.

Sterling, this might be a sore subject, but did you ever try to interview him?
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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby froy » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:37 am

LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).


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Postby Rockwriter » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:57 am

LordofDaRing wrote:Nice article posted therer Sadie, he even mentions Styx in it.

Yawn Weener did die Sterling, at least brain dead years ago. His Rolling Stoned magazine, via its covers, keeps confusing Obama and Gore for Elvis, the Beatles and all other legit rock stars. Some other organization should legitametly start up a Real Rock Hall of Fame and start all over, leaving political correctness and politics completely out of it.

Sterling, this might be a sore subject, but did you ever try to interview him?



No, I didn't . . . I knew there was no point, he almost never grants interviews, and he would have nothing to benefit by talking about Styx. It's a pretty open secret that he and JY were friendly once upon a time, and that a falling out between them is part of why RS has singled Styx out for such special abuse over the years. If you go back and read the RS review for 'Crystal Ball', it calls it one of the best rock albums of the year, and it mentions that 'Equinox' was one of the best records of the prior year, so it's really two positive reviews in one. When you get to 'The Grand Illusion', it gets panned, and "Miss America" is singled out for invective. What happened was, when GI started to really break, Wenner was hinting strongly to JY that Styx might be the subject of an in-depth cover story. In the end he went with something else, and he and JY had a falling out, and RS has basically had an unwritten editorial policy of Styx-bashing ever since.

Mind you, I'm not saying that if not for that incident, Styx would have gotten critical respect. It would not have. Styx was part of a genre, the album rock bands, that RS hated anyway. RS bashed ALL of those bands, not just Styx. But Styx got singled out for much more abuse than even Journey or REO, and I will always believe that the JY/Wenner thing had a lot to do with that.

As for the Rock Hall of Fame, it's pretty well understood that Wenner and his circle of cronies control the nomination and voting so closely that it's basically a sham. What kind of Hall of "FAME" has no way for the public to participate, either in the nominations or the voting? The whole thing is absurd. It's a way for him to charge bands and management companies thousands of dollars per table every year for an induction ceremony that also reaps a lot of TV ad revenue for the telecast. The whole thing is just bullshit. I'm actually thinking about doing an article about this.


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Postby RumTumJM » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:07 am

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LordofDaRing wrote:Nice article posted therer Sadie, he even mentions Styx in it.

Yawn Weener did die Sterling, at least brain dead years ago. His Rolling Stoned magazine, via its covers, keeps confusing Obama and Gore for Elvis, the Beatles and all other legit rock stars. Some other organization should legitametly start up a Real Rock Hall of Fame and start all over, leaving political correctness and politics completely out of it.

Sterling, this might be a sore subject, but did you ever try to interview him?



No, I didn't . . . I knew there was no point, he almost never grants interviews, and he would have nothing to benefit by talking about Styx. It's a pretty open secret that he and JY were friendly once upon a time, and that a falling out between them is part of why RS has singled Styx out for such special abuse over the years. If you go back and read the RS review for 'Crystal Ball', it calls it one of the best rock albums of the year, and it mentions that 'Equinox' was one of the best records of the prior year, so it's really two positive reviews in one. When you get to 'The Grand Illusion', it gets panned, and "Miss America" is singled out for invective. What happened was, when GI started to really break, Wenner was hinting strongly to JY that Styx might be the subject of an in-depth cover story. In the end he went with something else, and he and JY had a falling out, and RS has basically had an unwritten editorial policy of Styx-bashing ever since.

Mind you, I'm not saying that if not for that incident, Styx would have gotten critical respect. It would not have. Styx was part of a genre, the album rock bands, that RS hated anyway. RS bashed ALL of those bands, not just Styx. But Styx got singled out for much more abuse than even Journey or REO, and I will always believe that the JY/Wenner thing had a lot to do with that.

As for the Rock Hall of Fame, it's pretty well understood that Wenner and his circle of cronies control the nomination and voting so closely that it's basically a sham. What kind of Hall of "FAME" has no way for the public to participate, either in the nominations or the voting? The whole thing is absurd. It's a way for him to charge bands and management companies thousands of dollars per table every year for an induction ceremony that also reaps a lot of TV ad revenue for the telecast. The whole thing is just bullshit. I'm actually thinking about doing an article about this.


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Can you elaborate on the people involved with this. I ask because one my current journalism professor, Dr. James Simon, used to write for Rolling Stone. He tells us he interviewed just about every classic rock band, and have tol me personally, interviewing Styx was like Spinal Tap.

Could he be involved with this?
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Postby Bearded Clam » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:31 am

I would love to hear more about how interviewing Styx was like Spinal Tap. Did he tell you any details?

I remember reading somewhere that Spinal Tap used a lot of Styx references. Was that in your book Sterling? I have a terrible memory.
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Postby LordofDaRing » Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:57 am

Very interesting insight, I never knew JY and Wenner had any kind of relationship. I remember them trashing Paradise Theater, and it was obvious from the review that the writer had not even listened to the whole album. I do remember TS even taking a little dig at RS magazine not to long ago on the Styx website.
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Postby RumTumJM » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:45 am

Bearded Clam wrote:I would love to hear more about how interviewing Styx was like Spinal Tap. Did he tell you any details?

I remember reading somewhere that Spinal Tap used a lot of Styx references. Was that in your book Sterling? I have a terrible memory.


All else I remember him saying was that is was somewhat funny, since he felt that all spoke like they were much more intelligent than he felt they really were.

Take that with a grain of salt
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Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees 2009

Postby STYX Fan » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:24 am

chowhall wrote:
Toph wrote:
LordofDaRing wrote:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61713826

I guess Gene Simmons and Alice Cooper must have voted for a Republican at some point in thier lifes. The Stooges? Run DMC????

Hey Sterling, looks like another great class for the Rock Hall huh? No mention of Styx (I'm shocked).


Or Journey Or Foreigner or Boston or REO Speedwagon...or Kansas...notice a trend here?


I'm with Andrew, The Rock N Roll Hall of Crap.



Yea man screw the RR hall of fame. this is shocking! The freaking stooges? I mean a band that helped influence an entire underground genera that went on to change the face of rock and roll, being inducted into the Hall of Fame over STYX. I'm just speechless.
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Postby Rockwriter » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:27 pm

Bearded Clam wrote:I would love to hear more about how interviewing Styx was like Spinal Tap. Did he tell you any details?

I remember reading somewhere that Spinal Tap used a lot of Styx references. Was that in your book Sterling? I have a terrible memory.



Well, what IS in my book is that the members of Styx - particularly Dennis and JY - felt that Spinal Tap took some shots at them. But you know, a LOT of bands thought that. I actually contacted the office of Rob Reiner, and he said through a spokesperson that Styx had nothing to do with what was written. In a funny irony, former Styx manager Derek Sutton worked PR for the film, and was given a screen credit, and they of course took that as evidence that the film makers had slanted the film to spoof Styx. Sometimes egos that large see themselves in places that they really aren't.

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Postby bugsymalone » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:06 pm

Rockwriter wrote:
Bearded Clam wrote:I would love to hear more about how interviewing Styx was like Spinal Tap. Did he tell you any details?

I remember reading somewhere that Spinal Tap used a lot of Styx references. Was that in your book Sterling? I have a terrible memory.



Well, what IS in my book is that the members of Styx - particularly Dennis and JY - felt that Spinal Tap took some shots at them. But you know, a LOT of bands thought that. I actually contacted the office of Rob Reiner, and he said through a spokesperson that Styx had nothing to do with what was written. In a funny irony, former Styx manager Derek Sutton worked PR for the film, and was given a screen credit, and they of course took that as evidence that the film makers had slanted the film to spoof Styx. Sometimes egos that large see themselves in places that they really aren't.

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That is funny because I never saw ANY American bands in the satire that was Spinal Tap. There were so many Brit bands that fit that whole vibe in the movie. I saw bits of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath, to name a few.


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