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Postby Blueskies » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:57 pm

Gideon wrote:
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Gideon wrote:I realize everyone considers JSS the ultimate frontman, stagemaster


Not by a longshot. Soto was never able to realize that he was fronting Journey and not Alice In Chains. .


Do we have a Emoticon depicting a little yellow man talking of of his ass? I'd like to insert one here.


Why? I think your avatar suits you fine.

yours doesn't so here's a new shirt that suits you....
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Postby Gideon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:59 pm

Vacation?

Surely Andrew wouldn't ban me for indulging in a little friendly sarcasm that he himself feels secure enough to use on others.

That would make him a bit of a hypocrite.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:02 pm

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Gideon wrote:I'm game.


You need to shut up for a while. That's what I think.


You're a beacon of objectivity, Andrew. Completely and utterly fair. That's what I think.


That doesn't count for much in my world.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:02 pm

Gideon wrote:
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Gideon wrote:I realize everyone considers JSS the ultimate frontman, stagemaster


Not by a longshot. Soto was never able to realize that he was fronting Journey and not Alice In Chains. .


Do we have a Emoticon depicting a little yellow man talking of of his ass? I'd like to insert one here.


Why? I think your avatar suits you fine.


Tick tick tick...
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:03 pm

Gideon wrote:Vacation?

Surely Andrew wouldn't ban me for indulging in a little friendly sarcasm that he himself feels secure enough to use on others.

That would make him a bit of a hypocrite.


I'm sure I could live with that.
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Postby Gideon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:05 pm

There, you see?

Andrew's not the banning type. He dishes it out, he can take it.

Thank you, sir.
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Postby Gideon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:07 pm

Andrew wrote:
Gideon wrote:Vacation?

Surely Andrew wouldn't ban me for indulging in a little friendly sarcasm that he himself feels secure enough to use on others.

That would make him a bit of a hypocrite.


I'm sure I could live with that.


You're a regular comedian. :lol:

No, Andrew, and I'll tell you why you couldn't live with it. You're a fair and impartial moderator. And you know you don't have the reasonable grounds to ban me, which is why we're bantering rather than being unkind.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:21 pm

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No, Andrew, and I'll tell you why you couldn't live with it. You're a fair and impartial moderator. And you know you don't have the reasonable grounds to ban me, which is why we're bantering rather than being unkind.


Ooooooh.... The old suck up and hope for the best trick. I like it.
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Postby Gideon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:26 pm

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No, Andrew, and I'll tell you why you couldn't live with it. You're a fair and impartial moderator. And you know you don't have the reasonable grounds to ban me, which is why we're bantering rather than being unkind.


Ooooooh.... The old suck up and hope for the best trick. I like it.


That's me. I'm notorious for changing my mind in order to appeal to administration.
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:27 pm

What is going on with you two tonight? Which one is in heat? 8)
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Postby yulog » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:27 pm

Andrew wrote:
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Gideon wrote:I realize everyone considers JSS the ultimate frontman, stagemaster


Not by a longshot. Soto was never able to realize that he was fronting Journey and not Alice In Chains. .


Do we have a Emoticon depicting a little yellow man talking of of his ass? I'd like to insert one here.


If we did it should be blueskies avatar, hes been talking out of his ass since july 15th 2006 Image
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Postby Gideon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:28 pm

steveo777 wrote:What is going on with you two tonight? Which one is in heat? 8)


Neither.

We're roleplaying.
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Postby Vladan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:31 pm

steveo777 wrote:What is going on with you two tonight? Which one is in heat? 8)


I don't know, probably Andrew by the looks of things! :) I just saw a picture of Gideon's girlfriend, and I don't why he bothers coming here when you have a girl looking like that.

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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:43 pm

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No, Andrew, and I'll tell you why you couldn't live with it. You're a fair and impartial moderator. .



Not according to your long winded (as usual) post at another forum. Why state on thing here and the "truth" elsewhere?

The simple fact is....this board has existed for 10 years and will continue on with or without you. And the other things is....seeing that I own and pay for this board means I don't have to put up with people that get up my nose. ie. You.

I have a few minutes per hour to drop in here and check things and if I'm getting reader complaints (yes, about you...), then I keep a closer watch on that user. And whan that user has annoyed me in the past and continues to be a smart ass when I ask them to chil out, then I have zero patience left these days to deal with such issues.

So, chill out and re-consider some parts of your posting style and all will be fine.
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Postby Jana » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:36 pm

Vladan wrote:
steveo777 wrote:What is going on with you two tonight? Which one is in heat? 8)


I don't know, probably Andrew by the looks of things! :) I just saw a picture of Gideon's girlfriend, and I don't why he bothers coming here when you have a girl looking like that.

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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:34 am

Jana wrote:
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steveo777 wrote:What is going on with you two tonight? Which one is in heat? 8)


I don't know, probably Andrew by the looks of things! :) I just saw a picture of Gideon's girlfriend, and I don't why he bothers coming here when you have a girl looking like that.

;)


:lol: :lol: :lol:


A valid point, actually. So I'll bow out now.

It's been fun, Andrew. :wink:
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:35 am

Giddy, Andrew!!!!! Cant we all just get along????? How about I take you fellas out and show you the dark side of south georgia????? :D
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:39 am

ScarabGator wrote:Giddy, Andrew!!!!! Cant we all just get along????? How about I take you fellas out and show you the dark side of south georgia????? :D


I'm not interested in a forum where the administrator insults everyone who doesn't adhere to the party line and demonstrates selectivity in punishing offenders. The excuse that he's on a limited timeframe has gotten old and there are alternatives. Where was he when I was being flamed, bashed, threatened?

But I'm just an arrogant, punk kid. I'll pass.

Congratulations, Andrew. I'm officially out of your nose.
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Postby Jana » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:45 am

Gideon wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Giddy, Andrew!!!!! Cant we all just get along????? How about I take you fellas out and show you the dark side of south georgia????? :D


I'm not interested in a forum where the administrator insults everyone who doesn't adhere to the party line and demonstrates selectivity in punishing offenders. The excuse that he's on a limited timeframe has gotten old and there are alternatives. Where was he when I was being flamed, bashed, threatened?

But I'm just an arrogant, punk kid. I'll pass.

Congratulations, Andrew. I'm officially out of your nose.


Come on, Giddy. We love you here. I wouldn't know what to do without reading your Alan Shore/Boston Legal debates.
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Postby Chubby321 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:48 am

Gideon, I am a fan of your postings and I hope you will reconsider. :(
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Postby yulog » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:14 am

Gideon wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Giddy, Andrew!!!!! Cant we all just get along????? How about I take you fellas out and show you the dark side of south georgia????? :D


I'm not interested in a forum where the administrator insults everyone who doesn't adhere to the party line and demonstrates selectivity in punishing offenders. The excuse that he's on a limited timeframe has gotten old and there are alternatives. Where was he when I was being flamed, bashed, threatened?

But I'm just an arrogant, punk kid. I'll pass.

Congratulations, Andrew. I'm officially out of your nose.


The board is not democratic, Drew pays for it.If i payed for this board i would do what i wanted as well. Why would he come to your aid when you have encouraged people here to come at you in debate. I don't expect Drew to come to my side if someone gives me a hard time. You can't expect to keep putting the moderator down , and not be given a holiday.
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:22 am

yulog wrote:The board is not democratic, Drew pays for it.


Who said anything about democracy? I'm not asking for a position in government; I'm asking for a benevolent dictator instead of a tyrant.

yulog wrote:If i payed for this board i would do what i wanted as well.


That's an odd thought. The idea of someone doing whatever the hell they want simply because they pay for the bandwidth. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Andrew should be anything less than the Supreme Grand Poobah of these forums, but I had a reasonable expectation of objectivity.

yulog wrote:Why would he come to your aid when you have encouraged people here to come at you in debate.


I don't mind debating; I love debating. Flaming isn't debating.

yulog wrote:I don't expect Drew to come to my side if someone gives me a hard time.


I wasn't banking on Andrew's involvement, which is why I handled the issues myself. But if he's not going to defend everyone or at least make an attempt to do it, why come to the aid of a select few?

yulog wrote:You can't expect to keep putting the moderator down , and not be given a holiday.


I'm not expecting that. The problem (for Andrew) is that I'm not afraid of him and I'm fine with being banned. I've been banned before. And when he indulges in selectively punishing those whom he simply doesn't like, when he allows comments to be made about everyone minus criticisms of Jeff Scott Soto, and most especially when he hurls insults at me, I give them back in my own special way.

If Andrew's really who he says he is and pretends to be, then he'll recognize what he's done wrong and move on from there.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, by the way. I don't think Andrew's pure evil or anything remotely close. But he ostracizes ScarabGator for flirting, meanwhile allowing Deano to make crude comments ad infinitum. He tells Dan, Tito, and myself to shut up on a regular basis, and doesn't bother giving us reasons other than he doesn't like me and that Tito and Dan "have an agenda!" And he lets certain individuals run rampant while lashing out at anyone else for the smallest transgression.

That's not fair, that's not impartial. Not objective. Three things a good leader -- from the leader of a nation to a forum administrator -- should be.

Predictably, I'll be punished for this, mocked some more. That's fine. I can handle sarcasm and WTF gives me the means to retaliate. But it doesn't make my criticisms any less valid. The fact that Andrew is so sensitive about this means I've struck a resonant chord.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:24 am

Gideon wrote:
I'm not interested in a forum where the administrator insults everyone who doesn't adhere to the party line and demonstrates selectivity in punishing offenders. The excuse that he's on a limited timeframe has gotten old and there are alternatives. Where was he when I was being flamed, bashed, threatened?

But I'm just an arrogant, punk kid. I'll pass.

Congratulations, Andrew. I'm officially out of your nose.


Point A - Blah blah blah.

point B - Cheerio then. :D
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:27 am

Gideon wrote:Predictably, I'll be punished for this, mocked some more. That's fine. I can handle sarcasm and WTF gives me the means to retaliate. But it doesn't make my criticisms any less valid. The fact that Andrew is so sensitive about this means I've struck a resonant chord.


Andrew wrote:
Point A - Blah blah blah.

point B - Cheerio then. :D


Well, it's a good thing to know that even when I depart, I still have this unbelievable habit of being right.

You've made my day, Wombat. :wink:
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Postby Andrew » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:28 am

Gideon wrote:
yulog wrote:The board is not democratic, Drew pays for it.


Who said anything about democracy? I'm not asking for a position in government; I'm asking for a benevolent dictator instead of a tyrant.

yulog wrote:If i payed for this board i would do what i wanted as well.


That's an odd thought. The idea of someone doing whatever the hell they want simply because they pay for the bandwidth. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Andrew should be anything less than the Supreme Grand Poobah of these forums, but I had a reasonable expectation of objectivity.

yulog wrote:Why would he come to your aid when you have encouraged people here to come at you in debate.


I don't mind debating; I love debating. Flaming isn't debating.

yulog wrote:I don't expect Drew to come to my side if someone gives me a hard time.


I wasn't banking on Andrew's involvement, which is why I handled the issues myself. But if he's not going to defend everyone or at least make an attempt to do it, why come to the aid of a select few?

yulog wrote:You can't expect to keep putting the moderator down , and not be given a holiday.


I'm not expecting that. The problem (for Andrew) is that I'm not afraid of him and I'm fine with being banned. I've been banned before. And when he indulges in selectively punishing those whom he simply doesn't like, when he allows comments to be made about everyone minus criticisms of Jeff Scott Soto, and most especially when he hurls insults at me, I give them back in my own special way.

If Andrew's really who he says he is and pretends to be, then he'll recognize what he's done wrong and move on from there.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, by the way. I don't think Andrew's pure evil or anything remotely close. But he ostracizes ScarabGator for flirting, meanwhile allowing Deano to make crude comments ad infinitum. He tells Dan, Tito, and myself to shut up on a regular basis, and doesn't bother giving us reasons other than he doesn't like me and that Tito and Dan "have an agenda!" And he lets certain individuals run rampant while lashing out at anyone else for the smallest transgression.

That's not fair, that's not impartial. Not objective. Three things a good leader -- from the leader of a nation to a forum administrator -- should be.

Predictably, I'll be punished for this, mocked some more. That's fine. I can handle sarcasm and WTF gives me the means to retaliate. But it doesn't make my criticisms any less valid. The fact that Andrew is so sensitive about this means I've struck a resonant chord.


I'm not sensitive. I simply find you annoying and think you are an over(self)valued windbag who loves the sound of his own voice (type). The tyrant has spoken!
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:30 am

Andrew wrote:I'm not sensitive. I simply find you annoying and think you are an over(self)valued windbag who loves the sound of his own voice (type). The tyrant has spoken!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby yulog » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:37 am

Gideon wrote:
yulog wrote:The board is not democratic, Drew pays for it.


Who said anything about democracy? I'm not asking for a position in government; I'm asking for a benevolent dictator instead of a tyrant.

yulog wrote:If i payed for this board i would do what i wanted as well.


That's an odd thought. The idea of someone doing whatever the hell they want simply because they pay for the bandwidth. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Andrew should be anything less than the Supreme Grand Poobah of these forums, but I had a reasonable expectation of objectivity.

yulog wrote:Why would he come to your aid when you have encouraged people here to come at you in debate.


I don't mind debating; I love debating. Flaming isn't debating.

yulog wrote:I don't expect Drew to come to my side if someone gives me a hard time.


I wasn't banking on Andrew's involvement, which is why I handled the issues myself. But if he's not going to defend everyone or at least make an attempt to do it, why come to the aid of a select few?

yulog wrote:You can't expect to keep putting the moderator down , and not be given a holiday.


I'm not expecting that. The problem (for Andrew) is that I'm not afraid of him and I'm fine with being banned. I've been banned before. And when he indulges in selectively punishing those whom he simply doesn't like, when he allows comments to be made about everyone minus criticisms of Jeff Scott Soto, and most especially when he hurls insults at me, I give them back in my own special way.

If Andrew's really who he says he is and pretends to be, then he'll recognize what he's done wrong and move on from there.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, by the way. I don't think Andrew's pure evil or anything remotely close. But he ostracizes ScarabGator for flirting, meanwhile allowing Deano to make crude comments ad infinitum. He tells Dan, Tito, and myself to shut up on a regular basis, and doesn't bother giving us reasons other than he doesn't like me and that Tito and Dan "have an agenda!" And he lets certain individuals run rampant while lashing out at anyone else for the smallest transgression.

That's not fair, that's not impartial. Not objective. Three things a good leader -- from the leader of a nation to a forum administrator -- should be.

Predictably, I'll be punished for this, mocked some more. That's fine. I can handle sarcasm and WTF gives me the means to retaliate. But it doesn't make my criticisms any less valid. The fact that Andrew is so sensitive about this means I've struck a resonant chord.



I guess some people just don't need to be defended and others do. If your pissing him off and you know you are then ,you can't be suprised by the consequences.If he wants to have favorites or not its his choice, again it's his board. Gid, don't you think he has gone thru this arguement a thousand times in the last 10 yrs. He has grown tired of it and chooses to not want to listen to it anymore.
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Postby mdaemon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:38 am

Chubby321 wrote:Gideon, I am a fan of your postings and I hope you will reconsider. :(


heh they all come back
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:39 am

yulog wrote:I guess some people just don't need to be defended and others do. If your pissing him off and you know you are then ,you can't be suprised by the consequences.If he wants to have favorites or not its his choice, again it's his board. Gid, don't you think he has gone thru this arguement a thousand times in the last 10 yrs. He has grown tired of it and chooses to not want to listen to it anymore.


Maybe. But this last page is something I'll cherish forever.
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40 am

mdaemon wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:Gideon, I am a fan of your postings and I hope you will reconsider. :(


heh they all come back


This one won't. I promise. I'll rearrange the password and the second I finish my PM discussion, I'll give Andrew the greenlight to press that ban button.
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