The Frogs cheat to get to the World Cup...

[Rhiannon]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting.

+1

[Michigan Girl]

This is not the first nor the last time we've argued about this....... remember the last time Drew said this:

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... 08#4079508

I don't care for the sport, but I am LMAO@ this post...

[parfait]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

[Behshad]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

You sure need to take a chillpill buddy...... you can make a point without being so fired up, you know?
next time , take a deep breath, clear your mind, shave your legs, take a swig of a 1983 Chateau Latour , shave your legs some more , then post here

[Ehwmatt]

You sure need to take a chillpill buddy...... you can make a point without being so fired up, you know?
next time , take a deep breath, clear your mind, shave your legs, take a swig of a 1983 Chateau Latour , shave your legs some more , then post here

I just can't wait for the vintage Deano response here

[S2M]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

You sure need to take a chillpill buddy...... you can make a point without being so fired up, you know?
next time , take a deep breath, clear your mind, shave your legs, take a swig of a 1983 Chateau Latour , shave your legs some more , then post here

On top of that, go put in your Jerry Lewis collection, watch a Pink Panther marathon, and drool over your 3 best(worst) french exports: Gerard Depardieu, Jean Reno, and Pepe Le Pew.....and that short wirey fuck from Hogan's Heroes.

[Ehwmatt]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

You sure need to take a chillpill buddy...... you can make a point without being so fired up, you know?
next time , take a deep breath, clear your mind, shave your legs, take a swig of a 1983 Chateau Latour , shave your legs some more , then post here

On top of that, go put in your Jerry Lewis collection, watch a Pink Panther marathon, and drool over your 3 best(worst) french exports: Gerard Depardieu, Jean Reno, and Pepe Le Pew.....and that short wirey fuck from Hogan's Heroes.

LOL Pink Panther marathon. Great stuff

[Rockindeano]

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

Firstly, take your "civility" claim and shove it straight up your Euro ass, or better yet, stick it in your mouth, the smell is probably the same anyway.

You busting out the adage that soccer contains contact is laughable. You wear those faggoty shin guards, lol. What for? I had some douchey long hair drive a spotted ball into my shins as hard as he could and laughed in his face. It's a slight sting, not a ruptured femur. Please back away from the crackpipe Froggy. Simply put, you are referred to ass Puss Nation for a reason. The day you people fight for anything other than cheap bus fare is the day I don a soccer uniform.

Your women are not hot either. Being hot includes being clean and shaved, and smelling unlike a dumpster or cheap corner bar. American women, not the female security guards from the southern states, but real American women smell good and bathe at least daily. You Frenchies should try mixing in a bar of soap or some fuckin deodorant. Note- perfume is not deodorant. Perfume mixed with smelly pits or dirty snatch does not make for a nice smelling woman.

As for me living in a trailer watching wrestling? LOL, no trailer but how does someone not peek at wrestling from time to time. You would like it. It's fake. There is no real hitting, just air slaps and harmless leg drops. Now kindly pull your head back in from your bearded axe wound and stop making insane comments, like trying to sell anyone with brains and at least 5 dollars in their wallet, soccer.

[S2M]

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

Is that one of those things that hunted oompa loompas in Loompaland? Like Vermicious Knids. Who, quite incidently, like forming themselves into the word SCRAM....coincidence? I do not think so.

[bluejeangirl76]

[Rockindeano]

Those fuckers give me the willies. Look like a bunch of spray tanned jockey's waiting for the race to begin.

[portland]

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

Firstly, take your "civility" claim and shove it straight up your Euro ass, or better yet, stick it in your mouth, the smell is probably the same anyway.

You busting out the adage that soccer contains contact is laughable. You wear those faggoty shin guards, lol. What for? I had some douchey long hair drive a spotted ball into my shins as hard as he could and laughed in his face. It's a slight sting, not a ruptured femur. Please back away from the crackpipe Froggy. Simply put, you are referred to ass Puss Nation for a reason. The day you people fight for anything other than cheap bus fare is the day I don a soccer uniform.

Your women are not hot either. Being hot includes being clean and shaved, and smelling unlike a dumpster or cheap corner bar. American women, not the female security guards from the southern states, but real American women smell good and bathe at least daily. You Frenchies should try mixing in a bar of soap or some fuckin deodorant. Note- perfume is not deodorant. Perfume mixed with smelly pits or dirty snatch does not make for a nice smelling woman.

As for me living in a trailer watching wrestling? LOL, no trailer but how does someone not peek at wrestling from time to time. You would like it. It's fake. There is no real hitting, just air slaps and harmless leg drops. Now kindly pull your head back in from your bearded axe wound and stop making insane comments, like trying to sell anyone with brains and at least 5 dollars in their wallet, soccer.

That post.........................no words!!!!!

[Ehwmatt]

First of all: the "soccer" you people have in the states sucks balls. But I got to tell you man, that I'm struggling to even try to reply with a civil response, as your whole post reeks of someone who has spent his life eating pringles and watching wrestling in a trailer. You simply can't be so god damn ignorant and stereotypical.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. And the no contact stuff you're talking about is a load of bullshit. Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2spIJ-1zw

Bet you choked on your mac and cheese right about now, Sherminator? Everything you just typed is utter bullshit.

And the whole second world war stuff is so god damn old. We all eat frog legs and all french women lactate red wine too, you know

Dang... I didn't manage to keep it civil. I guess that's kind of hard when I'm argumenting with a unimportant fudge doddle.

Firstly, take your "civility" claim and shove it straight up your Euro ass, or better yet, stick it in your mouth, the smell is probably the same anyway.

You busting out the adage that soccer contains contact is laughable. You wear those faggoty shin guards, lol. What for? I had some douchey long hair drive a spotted ball into my shins as hard as he could and laughed in his face. It's a slight sting, not a ruptured femur. Please back away from the crackpipe Froggy. Simply put, you are referred to ass Puss Nation for a reason. The day you people fight for anything other than cheap bus fare is the day I don a soccer uniform.

Your women are not hot either. Being hot includes being clean and shaved, and smelling unlike a dumpster or cheap corner bar. American women, not the female security guards from the southern states, but real American women smell good and bathe at least daily. You Frenchies should try mixing in a bar of soap or some fuckin deodorant. Note- perfume is not deodorant. Perfume mixed with smelly pits or dirty snatch does not make for a nice smelling woman.

As for me living in a trailer watching wrestling? LOL, no trailer but how does someone not peek at wrestling from time to time. You would like it. It's fake. There is no real hitting, just air slaps and harmless leg drops. Now kindly pull your head back in from your bearded axe wound and stop making insane comments, like trying to sell anyone with brains and at least 5 dollars in their wallet, soccer.

[Michigan Girl]

American women, not the female security guards from the southern states, but real American women smell good and bathe at least daily.

How does he know this stuff!?!
I am LMAO!!!

[AlteredDNA]

Some more French "culture" (includes video)...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2 ... e?page=all

[Zedul]

Topless beaches, great fashion, beautiful women, awesome food, excellent wine, uber sexy movies that aren't icky spoogie porn, amazing photographers...

I love the French.

[Carla777]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

Fútbol is not my fav but is an sport, to each country his own, for example here Basketball is not an option when the fact is that we are all small people; USA soccer or football team, is not good in this sport and excellent in others; if they are in the world coup now i'm not sure that mean so much since they don't compite with the best teams in the continent.
Why you say is no clock? of course there is, are 90 minutes and the referee can give a few more minutes if he think is neccesary. Long hair guys? no problem for me, some look great. No contact allowed? well this have rules like all sport and for sure is not shouldn't be allow Elizabeth Lambert type of contact lol!
About continents and countries; there is hot, not hot, smelly and clean persons in everywhere, you seem full of stereotypes..if i think that way i would think every person in USA is fat and ignorant but i'm sure is not that way, and ignorance come from a few people that make your kind of statements

[Behshad]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

Fútbol is not my fav but is an sport, to each country his own, for example here Basketball is not an option when the fact is that we are all small people; USA soccer or football team, is not good in this sport and excellent in others; if they are in the world coup now i'm not sure that mean so much since they don't compite with the best teams in the continent.
Why you say is no clock? of course there is, are 90 minutes and the referee can give a few more minutes if he think is neccesary. Long hair guys? no problem for me, some look great. No contact allowed? well this have rules like all sport and for sure is not shouldn't be allow Elizabeth Lambert type of contact lol!
About continents and countries; there is hot, not hot, smelly and clean persons in everywhere, you seem full of stereotypes..if i think that way i would think every person in USA is fat and ignorant but i'm sure is not that way, and ignorance come from a few people that make your kind of statements

Bravo, Carla !

Ouch Dean

[MartyMoffatt]

I’d forgotten how much I missed Deano’s delusional rants about anything non American (or Canadian). I see we’re back on the subject of football again – the real form of the game.

We’ve been round this age old argument many times on this board, and I don’t think we’ll ever get to a position where we all agree on the relative merits of Football v. American Football. Most Americans don’t understand or appreciate Football. Most non Americans don’t understand or appreciate American Football. However, each time the subject is raised, it generates some active discussion, so I’ll add my two-penny worth here (that’s about 4 cents to you guys). Apologies if I oversimplify things here, but I want to try to reduce each game to comparable elements.

First let’s consider the games themselves.

Football is a game of 90 minutes, in two 45 minute halves, plus whatever time the referee decides should be added to cater for the time lost during injuries, substitutions or deliberate time wasting. This averages 1-6 minutes. During the 91-96 minutes the game typically lasts, the ball is actively in play for at least 60 minutes (excluding the time taken at free kicks and throw-ins etc). For most of that time the action is fluid and continuous. Up to three substitutions are allowed per team, but once substituted, a player cannot return to the game.

The object of the game is to score more goals than the opposition, but the teams are structured in such a way that scoring goals is very difficult, hence not many goals are scored in a typical game. Sometimes no goals are scored or both teams score the same, resulting in a draw. This is acceptable in league matches or non-knockout parts of tournaments where the results of other games are taken into account, otherwise additional steps (eg extra time, penalties etc) may be used to determine an outright winner of the game.

There are some complex rules, but the majority are fairly simple, to allow the game to flow naturally and to enable the referee to interpret and apply them quickly.

As a spectacle, Football can be a boring and frustrating game to watch, when teams set themselves out defensively and cancel each other out. It can also be hugely entertaining, displaying high levels of skill and virtuosity, courage, excitement and surprises. The fact that so few goals are scored means that each goal is significant and cause for celebration. There is a high degree of uncertainty and anticipation in each game, because unpredictable results do occur.

Because a referee has absolute authority during a game and makes decisions based on his perception of events, some of these decisions can be controversial and can affect the outcome of games (case in point: France v Ireland, which started this thread).

While watching a game, particularly an exciting one, you are wrapped up in the game for the whole of each 45 minute ‘half’. Most people watching will not leave their seat or take their eyes from the game during this active play.

An American Football game consists of a series of short duration plays, comprising passes, runs, kicks or field goal attempts. Players have very specific tasks to perform for specific plays and substitutions are made throughout the game to bring on specialists for these plays. A game lasts for 60 minutes, but due to stoppages etc can actually take up to four hours to complete. The clock is controlled by the referee.

The object of this game is to score more points than the opposition, either by advancing to the opponents endzone or by kicking the ball through the posts. If a game is tied at the end of normal time, an extra period of overtime is played until the first team scores, at which point they are declared the winner.

The rules are numerous and complex, with an elaborate system of fouls and penalties applied in different situations. This results in frequent and sometimes lengthy stoppages, made worse by additional media stoppages for advertising etc throughout the game.

As a spectacle, American Football can be really exciting. The high contact, high speed plays require fine tuned athletes at the top of their game. However, even the most exciting games are punctuated by lengthy periods of inactivity. These advertising breaks and other stoppages allow for natural breaks (toilet, beer etc) and for appeasing the sponsors but do disrupt the continuity of the game making it less interesting for outsiders not involved with either team.

Now let’s establish a few facts and figures, shall we:-

Number of viewers who actually watched the last (2006) World Cup Final = 300 million
Number of viewers who actually watched the 2004 Euro Final = 153 million
Number of viewers who actually watched the 2004 Superbowl = 95 million

Cumulative viewers of the 2002 World Cup (over 1 month) = 30 Billion

There is absolutely no doubt that Football is a more popular sport worldwide than American Football. It is watched by far more people. If you consider participation figures, the proportion of people who actually play Football v. American Football is even higher because of the technical and equipment restrictions of American Football.

American Football is NOT included in the Olympic Games. Why? Because almost nobody outside of North America plays it.

(Actually baseball has just been thrown out of the next Olympics for pretty much the same reason, but that’s a different story).

However, 95 million Americans is a not insignificant number and I’m sure if the game wasn’t interesting and exciting it wouldn’t have that audience. Both sports are legitimate sports but this board in particular seems to be very anti-Football.

I hope this has been enlightening and informative, and that perhaps we can get back to the original point of this thread now.

No? I thought not.

Marty

[Rockindeano]

What a HORSESHIT post.

You Limey Euro puss's couldn't play real FOOTBALL, that's why you don't play it.

[Behshad]

What a HORSESHIT post.

You Limey Euro puss's couldn't play real FOOTBALL, that's why you don't play it.

Thats one way to look at it,,,,,,, but the truth is that the Americans couldnt play the real football, so they created their own , where you got a 10 minute break after each 10 second run

[Rockindeano]

What a HORSESHIT post.

You Limey Euro puss's couldn't play real FOOTBALL, that's why you don't play it.

Thats one way to look at it,,,,,,, but the truth is that the Americans couldnt play the real football, so they created their own , where you got a 10 minute break after each 10 second run

Um, no. We created a FOOTBALL that is actually exciting and doesn't need riots to remain relevant.

[Behshad]

What a HORSESHIT post.

You Limey Euro puss's couldn't play real FOOTBALL, that's why you don't play it.

Thats one way to look at it,,,,,,, but the truth is that the Americans couldnt play the real football, so they created their own , where you got a 10 minute break after each 10 second run

Um, no. We created a FOOTBALL that is actually exciting and doesn't need riots to remain relevant.

Whatever makes you feel better about it no matter which way you look at it, its all about personal prefrences. The ONLY time I enjoy a good soccer game is when the World Cup is on..... The only time I enjoy football is when Superbowl is on....... Hockey is the real sport , where there is action, excitement combined with goals, hard hits, actual clock, and requires real athlete above the other 2 sports The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

[Rockindeano]

The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And just why is that?

Because all these poor countries can afford is a coconut for a ball and a couple trees for goalposts. They need not worry about nets, because nobody ever scores. That is the biggest waste of nylon ever- soccer nets. They aren't ever needed!

[Behshad]

The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And just why is that?

Because all these poor countries can afford is a coconut for a ball and a couple trees for goalposts. They need not worry about nets, because nobody ever scores. That is the biggest waste of nylon ever- soccer nets. They aren't ever needed!

so just cause more poor people watch it , then its not a real sport ?:)

[StevePerryHair]

The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And just why is that?

Because all these poor countries can afford is a coconut for a ball and a couple trees for goalposts. They need not worry about nets, because nobody ever scores. That is the biggest waste of nylon ever- soccer nets. They aren't ever needed!

Hey, I watch my daughter's team score all the time

[gr8dane]

You're one dumb fucker, man. Soccer isn't even a sport? Geez

He's right, it isn't a sport. If soccer is a sport, so is farting. It's glorified daycare for kids here in America. Little gay orange slices and cookies, oh how fucking cute. "Mommy mommy, I kicked the ball!" Refuckindiculous.

How does one rally around a "sport" that is so corrupt, played by long haired feminine smelly Euros and Third Worlders, and doesn't have a fucking clock? For God's sake, no clock? Oh I forgot, the referee "keeps time in his head." LOL, how fucking stupid.

No goals, no shots on goal. No contact allowed. Players going down like they were shot by Clint Eastwood, but the only problem is they are 20 yards, oh excuse me, meters away from the Goddamned play! If you like soccer, you are a fucking Dolt!

By the way, fuck you and your filthy smelly stinky country. If it wasn't for America, your screen name might be Gertrude or Olga. You'd all be speaking German you fuckin Twat!

Fútbol is not my fav but is an sport, to each country his own, for example here Basketball is not an option when the fact is that we are all small people; USA soccer or football team, is not good in this sport and excellent in others; if they are in the world coup now i'm not sure that mean so much since they don't compite with the best teams in the continent.
Why you say is no clock? of course there is, are 90 minutes and the referee can give a few more minutes if he think is neccesary. Long hair guys? no problem for me, some look great. No contact allowed? well this have rules like all sport and for sure is not shouldn't be allow Elizabeth Lambert type of contact lol!
About continents and countries; there is hot, not hot, smelly and clean persons in everywhere, you seem full of stereotypes..if i think that way i would think every person in USA is fat and ignorant but i'm sure is not that way, and ignorance come from a few people that make your kind of statements

Nicely said.Fat and ignorant.But you forgot loud and obnoxious.

[Michigan Girl]

I’d forgotten how much I missed Deano’s delusional rants about anything non American (or Canadian). I see we’re back on the subject of football again – the real form of the game.

We’ve been round this age old argument many times on this board, and I don’t think we’ll ever get to a position where we all agree on the relative merits of Football v. American Football. Most Americans don’t understand or appreciate Football. Most non Americans don’t understand or appreciate American Football. However, each time the subject is raised, it generates some active discussion, so I’ll add my two-penny worth here (that’s about 4 cents to you guys). Apologies if I oversimplify things here, but I want to try to reduce each game to comparable elements.

First let’s consider the games themselves.

Football is a game of 90 minutes, in two 45 minute halves, plus whatever time the referee decides should be added to cater for the time lost during injuries, substitutions or deliberate time wasting. This averages 1-6 minutes. During the 91-96 minutes the game typically lasts, the ball is actively in play for at least 60 minutes (excluding the time taken at free kicks and throw-ins etc). For most of that time the action is fluid and continuous. Up to three substitutions are allowed per team, but once substituted, a player cannot return to the game.

The object of the game is to score more goals than the opposition, but the teams are structured in such a way that scoring goals is very difficult, hence not many goals are scored in a typical game. Sometimes no goals are scored or both teams score the same, resulting in a draw. This is acceptable in league matches or non-knockout parts of tournaments where the results of other games are taken into account, otherwise additional steps (eg extra time, penalties etc) may be used to determine an outright winner of the game.

There are some complex rules, but the majority are fairly simple, to allow the game to flow naturally and to enable the referee to interpret and apply them quickly.

As a spectacle, Football can be a boring and frustrating game to watch, when teams set themselves out defensively and cancel each other out. It can also be hugely entertaining, displaying high levels of skill and virtuosity, courage, excitement and surprises. The fact that so few goals are scored means that each goal is significant and cause for celebration. There is a high degree of uncertainty and anticipation in each game, because unpredictable results do occur.

Because a referee has absolute authority during a game and makes decisions based on his perception of events, some of these decisions can be controversial and can affect the outcome of games (case in point: France v Ireland, which started this thread).

While watching a game, particularly an exciting one, you are wrapped up in the game for the whole of each 45 minute ‘half’. Most people watching will not leave their seat or take their eyes from the game during this active play.

An American Football game consists of a series of short duration plays, comprising passes, runs, kicks or field goal attempts. Players have very specific tasks to perform for specific plays and substitutions are made throughout the game to bring on specialists for these plays. A game lasts for 60 minutes, but due to stoppages etc can actually take up to four hours to complete. The clock is controlled by the referee.

The object of this game is to score more points than the opposition, either by advancing to the opponents endzone or by kicking the ball through the posts. If a game is tied at the end of normal time, an extra period of overtime is played until the first team scores, at which point they are declared the winner.

The rules are numerous and complex, with an elaborate system of fouls and penalties applied in different situations. This results in frequent and sometimes lengthy stoppages, made worse by additional media stoppages for advertising etc throughout the game.

As a spectacle, American Football can be really exciting. The high contact, high speed plays require fine tuned athletes at the top of their game. However, even the most exciting games are punctuated by lengthy periods of inactivity. These advertising breaks and other stoppages allow for natural breaks (toilet, beer etc) and for appeasing the sponsors but do disrupt the continuity of the game making it less interesting for outsiders not involved with either team.

Now let’s establish a few facts and figures, shall we:-

Number of viewers who actually watched the last (2006) World Cup Final = 300 million
Number of viewers who actually watched the 2004 Euro Final = 153 million
Number of viewers who actually watched the 2004 Superbowl = 95 million

Cumulative viewers of the 2002 World Cup (over 1 month) = 30 Billion

There is absolutely no doubt that Football is a more popular sport worldwide than American Football. It is watched by far more people. If you consider participation figures, the proportion of people who actually play Football v. American Football is even higher because of the technical and equipment restrictions of American Football.

American Football is NOT included in the Olympic Games. Why? Because almost nobody outside of North America plays it.

(Actually baseball has just been thrown out of the next Olympics for pretty much the same reason, but that’s a different story).

However, 95 million Americans is a not insignificant number and I’m sure if the game wasn’t interesting and exciting it wouldn’t have that audience. Both sports are legitimate sports but this board in particular seems to be very anti-Football.

I hope this has been enlightening and informative, and that perhaps we can get back to the original point of this thread now.

No? I thought not.

Marty

LOL!!!

And I thought you just took great photos...

[Rockindeano]

The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And just why is that?

Because all these poor countries can afford is a coconut for a ball and a couple trees for goalposts. They need not worry about nets, because nobody ever scores. That is the biggest waste of nylon ever- soccer nets. They aren't ever needed!

Hey, I watch my daughter's team score all the time

You aren't helping!

[Behshad]

The fact still remains that soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And just why is that?

Because all these poor countries can afford is a coconut for a ball and a couple trees for goalposts. They need not worry about nets, because nobody ever scores. That is the biggest waste of nylon ever- soccer nets. They aren't ever needed!

Hey, I watch my daughter's team score all the time

You aren't helping!

Dean, ,,,its a battle you cant win,or lose We all know how much you hate soccer and european people:) and no one is expecting you to watch any soccer games anytime soon,,,, well maybe once the world cup kicks off, I will buy you a case of Busch's finest and get you to watch at least the highlights of one game