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Postby Mr JY Roboto » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:02 pm

froy wrote:
Saint John wrote:Todd calling Dennis their former keyboardist was accurate and I doubt there was any malice intended by his choice of words. It was a reference to the guy ... not a definition of what the guy meant to Styx. Higgy, this is a simple matter of context, dude. The mention required a reference to a specific person and you're trying to make it out that TS was somehow trying to diminish the contributions of DeYoung to the band Styx. But that's simply not the case. And you really stick a bucket full of dicks in your mouth when you say that Todd Sucherman isn't that good of a drummer. In 2009 Modern Drummer Magazine voted him the number one "Rock Drummer" in the world.


Dennis was not Todds former anything.
Todd last I check was filling in for John.
He has no right saying anything about anything former from the band.
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Still filling in after 13 years? Are you still filling in as an adult?
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Postby Mr JY Roboto » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:13 pm

Higgy wrote:
Jodes wrote:Umm Froy, when Todd was hired he was "filling in" for John, but sorry man, as of July 16th, 1996 he was no longer "filling in".


Whatever the case, his statement is ridiculous. Todd occupies the same place in Styx that Eric Singer occupies in Kiss. Todd's statement is tantamount to John Stamos referring to Brian Wilson as the Beach Boy's former bassist.


You are comparing Dennis De Young to Brian Wilson? Well..in terms of not wanting to tour maybe. Anyway, I love Styx but that one is not even close. Styx is not remembered for any particular personality but remembered more for it's songs.
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:18 am

Higgy wrote:
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DerriD wrote:Just poking my head in to see if it was safe around here again. (Bullet just misses my head) Guess not...Ya'll play nice.
They're just pissed off because they can't admit that Dennis was the ONLY member of Styx that mattered. He WAS Styx. Nobody else contributed anything! 8)
Funny :) Here's an analogy for ya what tommy & JY were to styx are what the big mac and the egg mcmuffin were to mcdonald's. Take those two key ingrediant's away you got nothin.


I agree. Tommy and JY are like Big Macs and Egg Mcmuffins - cheap, mediocre, fillers to satisfy those without refined tastes. Nightbull, we agree on something! I'll also add that JY and Tommy are like Wal-Mart, 7-11 coffee, and scott toilet paper.

PS - You affection for Big Macs and Egg Mcmuffins continues to paint a clear picture of you. What about Twinkees?


Maybe we can make Dennis 'The happy meal',and the toy of the day could be Higg,Toph or Froy.
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Postby Higgy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:24 am

gr8dane wrote:
Higgy wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
DerriD wrote:Just poking my head in to see if it was safe around here again. (Bullet just misses my head) Guess not...Ya'll play nice.
They're just pissed off because they can't admit that Dennis was the ONLY member of Styx that mattered. He WAS Styx. Nobody else contributed anything! 8)
Funny :) Here's an analogy for ya what tommy & JY were to styx are what the big mac and the egg mcmuffin were to mcdonald's. Take those two key ingrediant's away you got nothin.


I agree. Tommy and JY are like Big Macs and Egg Mcmuffins - cheap, mediocre, fillers to satisfy those without refined tastes. Nightbull, we agree on something! I'll also add that JY and Tommy are like Wal-Mart, 7-11 coffee, and scott toilet paper.

PS - You affection for Big Macs and Egg Mcmuffins continues to paint a clear picture of you. What about Twinkees?


Maybe we can make Dennis 'The happy meal',and the toy of the day could be Higg,Toph or Froy.


And you could be the big fat ass eating 5 of them.
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Postby Higgy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:27 am

Mr JY Roboto wrote:
Higgy wrote:
Jodes wrote:Umm Froy, when Todd was hired he was "filling in" for John, but sorry man, as of July 16th, 1996 he was no longer "filling in".


Whatever the case, his statement is ridiculous. Todd occupies the same place in Styx that Eric Singer occupies in Kiss. Todd's statement is tantamount to John Stamos referring to Brian Wilson as the Beach Boy's former bassist.


You are comparing Dennis De Young to Brian Wilson? Well..in terms of not wanting to tour maybe. Anyway, I love Styx but that one is not even close. Styx is not remembered for any particular personality but remembered more for it's songs.


In terms of creativity. In terms of being the mastermind behind a band. In terms of his bandmates not understanding his talent and wanting to stop his progression. In terms of his bandmates continuing on without him as a mediocre nostalgia act.
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Postby Higgy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:29 am

brywool wrote:Todd is a vital MEMBER of Styx. Todd's as much a member of Styx as when Shaw replaced Curelewski.


I have a feeling that a lot of Tommy Shaw fans would disagree with you on this.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:40 am

stmonkeys wrote:the horse has been dead for over 10 years, but the beatings still continue...


Going on 11 years now..............
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:49 am

Higgy wrote:
Jodes wrote:When did we start talking about John Stamos?

Now I'm officially lost..


John Stamos replaced Dennis Wilson as the Beach Boys drummer in the '80s. Pre-full house.
Watch the Kokomo video...


I loved when he was Blackie on General Hospital, anyhoo here is info from Wiki......
He is also proficient at drums, keyboards, guitar, bass and various percussion instruments. In 1990, he played drums and recorded with The Beach Boys on the title track of the comedy Problem Child. Stamos had appeared in the music video for The Beach Boys' 1988 hit Kokomo, playing the conga. He later appeared singing lead vocals on the song "Forever" (written by Dennis Wilson) on their 1992 album Summer in Paradise. Stamos also played in the band The Signals. He continues to appear with the Beach Boys (usually as drummer) sporadically.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:54 am

froy wrote:
Jodes wrote:Umm Froy, when Todd was hired he was "filling in" for John, but sorry man, as of July 16th, 1996 he was no longer "filling in".



I understand but Todd does not have the right to say OUR anything
He is not part of OUR
Its not OUR former keyboard player.
Its the founder of the band who is no longer in the band.


OMG, when does this end?

Todd was part of the band Styx when Dennis was kicked out of the band (in which he co-founded). He (Todd) can say "our" band, he is a member.

I don't think many of you caught on, Todd does like to "get" some of "us" Dennis fans all worked up. I'm sure not to harm or to hurt anyone but to have a little fun.
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Postby Rockwriter » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:39 am

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brywool wrote:Todd is a vital MEMBER of Styx. Todd's as much a member of Styx as when Shaw replaced Curelewski.

As for what he says about Dennis, I think that he put it pretty well.
What's he supposed to say?

Why do people make these wanky "connections"?

If Todd said "That ego-maniac douchebag" then you'd have a point Hig, but "former keyboard player"? Big Deal.

I didn't realize Stamos took over the drums. Thought he just did percussion for that video.

To call Mike Love the Beach Boys is ridiculous. That'd be like if JY had a complete other band and called it Styx, which, by the way, is not what's happening.

Speaking of Todd, his drum video is awesome.


Suchermann having the same impact as when Tommy joined? You have got to be fucking kidding me. Put down the Kool-Aid, it makes you look like a moron.

Sucherman is a sub filling in with guys 20 years older than him because he isn't a good enough drummer to get a gig with anyone his age (or any band that has had a hit in the past 20 years...)


Actually man, Todd is probably the most respected member of the band to the music community at large. The original members of Styx have never been rated as much from fellow instrumentalists, the trades were slow to cover the band and relatively few musicians cite Styx as an influence. Todd is a hundred times as good a drummer as he needs to be to do this gig, which isn't even that challenging from a drum perspective. These are straight rock songs in very straight time for the most part. Todd can play anything from that to very complex jazz. His list of session credits makes Tommy and JY look like amateurs at the Moose Lodge open mic night. He took this gig becaue it was a high-profile gig that paid well and provided great exposure, and he's also a lifelong Styx fan. He could have any gig he wanted in the world. Very few (or none) of them would pay what Styx pays or play at the level of visibility that Styx plays, so why jump ship on a good gig? When the band comes to an end he'll have his pick of every gig in the world, both live and studio. He's played with people the other Styx guys can't even imagine getting to play with, like Sting and Billy Joel, artists of that stature. He's in a different universe than the other guys as a musician. That doesn't mean you have to like the band, but seriously, it's not Todd's fault Dennis isn't there anymore. Not that he misses him per se, LOL, but he's not to blame for whatever it is you're projecting onto him. He doesn't hire and fire people. He's a great drummer who gets to travel the world playing for appreciative fans . . . what's so bad about that? Hardly seems like something to hate somebody over.

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Postby Abitaman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:27 am

Some people jsut hate, if thing do or don't go there way. Todd is my 2nd favorite drummer, Neal Peart being #1. I would buy a cd just because Todd was on it. Not knocking John P., but Todd could out play him one handed, and I say that as a fan of JP.
I saw no wrong in Todd's comment either, and I'm a huge DDY fan. Some people just like to read more into something than there already is.
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Postby S2M » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:36 am

Abitaman wrote:Some people jsut hate, if thing do or don't go there way. Todd is my 2nd favorite drummer, Neal Peart being #1. I would buy a cd just because Todd was on it. Not knocking John P., but Todd could out play him one handed, and I say that as a fan of JP.
I saw no wrong in Todd's comment either, and I'm a huge DDY fan. Some people just like to read more into something than there already is.




If you are listeing to Styx because of drumming than I don't know what to say.....no offense, but that is like watching Baywatch for the stellar dialogue.... :?
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:43 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Some people jsut hate, if thing do or don't go there way. Todd is my 2nd favorite drummer, Neal Peart being #1. I would buy a cd just because Todd was on it. Not knocking John P., but Todd could out play him one handed, and I say that as a fan of JP.
I saw no wrong in Todd's comment either, and I'm a huge DDY fan. Some people just like to read more into something than there already is.




If you are listeing to Styx because of drumming than I don't know what to say.....no offense, but that is like watching Baywatch for the stellar dialogue.... :?


I don't listen to Styx for one thing, but a combination of things. I don't listen to Rush jsut for Neal, it is the band as a whole. Same with Styx. My comment was I would buy a cd by someone else, if Todd was to play drums on it. I would buy a cd if DDY played keys for someone, and didn't sing. I follow the band for several reasons, and have followed then on different projects, some have been good and some not. I think Todd is a great drummer, but he wasn't drumming for Styx in 77 when I bought my first Styx cd.
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