Stick It To 'Em or Get Back With 'Em?

[styxfanNH]

Could the recent changes to Dennis' rock show be to finally stick it to Styx by playing most of their hits or could it be part of a bigger plan to move 2 similar shows where Tommy and JY have no choice but to bring Dennis back into the fold, at least for one last tour before they part ways again?

[masque]

i think it boils down to a couple of things;

1) while dennis wrote the majority of the "hits".....the tommy songs he is playing now were also big hits and more importantly a HUGE part of what made styx a great live band....those songs were even bigger live that what they were on the radio.

2) since dennis always proclaims that styx was a democracy with a "leader" and that he is very proud of what they created together he probably actually likes those songs and looks forward to playing them to the surprise and enjoyment of the crowd.

3) and I do think there is a huge part of dennis that desires to see the band back together with him in it....as cliche as it is time heals alot of wounds and we are moving on to a full decade since he was ousted.....and many years since the lawsuit was settled. so i think there may be a part of him that realizes tommy will find out that he is palying the songs and I dont think tommy will be pissed i think he will be flattered........buttering up tommy may be the first step in thawing the iceberg known as JY.

[bugsymalone]

I don't know about the getting back together part (and I am one who hopes it does not happen) or even the sticking it to them part.

I agree that several factors were involved, including the desire to add some of the rest of the better known Styx songs that are winners in concert. Could there be a bit of if you do my songs, then I can damn sure do your songs? Probably. But more likely Dennis felt he needed to shake things up and he is not one for the status quo in my view.

As we have talked about on the other thread, he gets a chance to rest the voice, too, and yet still have the audience enjoy a Styx hit or two in the process.

And now he has a lot of material from which to draw, legitimately, for his version of Styx music on the nostalgia circuit, with a bit of his solo stuff sprinkled in if he wishes. He can rightfully claim that "Desert Moon" was a hit and can point out the success of "100 YFN" in (parts of!) Canada should he wish to throw that one in occasionally.

He has enhanced his options in many ways which has got to be a good thing.

Will all this bring the "real" Styx back together? Gawd, I hope not. I like Dennis solo.


Bugsy

[froy]

Could the recent changes to Dennis' rock show be to finally stick it to Styx by playing most of their hits or could it be part of a bigger plan to move 2 similar shows where Tommy and JY have no choice but to bring Dennis back into the fold, at least for one last tour before they part ways again?[/quote

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Its simple Dennis made Fake Styx disposable
Why go see that farse any longer
This will bring the camps together IMO
JY is smokin pissed off right now and all I can say is TOO BAD

[froy]

I don't know about the getting back together part (and I am one who hopes it does not happen) or even the sticking it to them part.

I agree that several factors were involved, including the desire to add some of the rest of the better known Styx songs that are winners in concert. Could there be a bit of if you do my songs, then I can damn sure do your songs? Probably. But more likely Dennis felt he needed to shake things up and he is not one for the status quo in my view.

As we have talked about on the other thread, he gets a chance to rest the voice, too, and yet still have the audience enjoy a Styx hit or two in the process.

And now he has a lot of material from which to draw, legitimately, for his version of Styx music on the nostalgia circuit, with a bit of his solo stuff sprinkled in if he wishes. He can rightfully claim that "Desert Moon" was a hit and can point out the success of "100 YFN" in (parts of!) Canada should he wish to throw that one in occasionally.

He has enhanced his options in many ways which has got to be a good thing.

Will all this bring the "real" Styx back together? Gawd, I hope not. I like Dennis solo.


Bugsy

I love ya Bugs but I disagree
STYX needs to repair the damage

[froy]

Double posts no clue why

[Higgy]

Styx as a brand has been completely tarnished and could never undo the damage that has been done to the name. What should happen is there should be a Deyoung/Shaw album like the Page/Plant album with a tour (which would play selectively instead of any county fair or puppet show looking for a booking). JY can keep the shitty Styx name and attach it to whatever JYG collective he puts together - no one cares anyways.

[Everett]

imo there is no need for a reunion. Both camps are happy doing there own thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it........ The only reunion i want to see is gary richrath back in reo but i already know the chances of that happening.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Could the recent changes to Dennis' rock show be to finally stick it to Styx by playing most of their hits or could it be part of a bigger plan to move 2 similar shows where Tommy and JY have no choice but to bring Dennis back into the fold, at least for one last tour before they part ways again?

j


I posted this in another thread.....

He has done a rock symphony show, an acoustic show and a band show. In addition, his broadway work, his solo rock music, Lost Treasures show so now let's focus on the "Greatest Hits" show. PERFECT for a general audience this time around.

[Archetype]

The strongest indication I see of a DeYoung/Styx reunion is that Larry is dusting off his solo career fame. Remastering/re-releasing Strange Animal and Playing two solo concerts. A whole website dedicated to the endeavor, and some pretty entertaining youtube videos.

The Return of the Strange Animal may also mean the return of Dennis to Styx. I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

[Higgy]

The strongest indication I see of a DeYoung/Styx reunion is that Larry is dusting off his solo career fame. Remastering/re-releasing Strange Animal and Playing two solo concerts. A whole website dedicated to the endeavor, and some pretty entertaining youtube videos.

The Return of the Strange Animal may also mean the return of Dennis to Styx. I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

Did you like the second Darren too?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

The strongest indication I see of a DeYoung/Styx reunion is that Larry is dusting off his solo career fame. Remastering/re-releasing Strange Animal and Playing two solo concerts. A whole website dedicated to the endeavor, and some pretty entertaining youtube videos.

The Return of the Strange Animal may also mean the return of Dennis to Styx. I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

[froy]

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Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

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I see em all Laurie
And it is going to happen soon
Dennis is just practicing his keys again.
Goodbye Larry Gowan don't let the door hit ya on the way out
You won't be missed

[froy]

I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

[/quote]

Wake up and throw some cold water on your puss
Larry is garbage.

[froy]

imo there is no need for a reunion. Both camps are happy doing there own thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it........ The only reunion i want to see is gary richrath back in reo but i already know the chances of that happening.

You get dumber by the day

[Jodes]

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Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

I see em all Laurie
And it is going to happen soon
Dennis is just practicing his keys again.
Goodbye Larry Gowan don't let the door hit ya on the way out
You won't be missed[/quote]

You say the same thing year in and year out Froy.. going on what, 10 years now?

[froy]

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Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

I see em all Laurie
And it is going to happen soon
Dennis is just practicing his keys again.
Goodbye Larry Gowan don't let the door hit ya on the way out
You won't be missed

You say the same thing year in and year out Froy.. going on what, 10 years now?

[/quote]

And when it happens what will you say then?
Chicago STYX and you will be begging for mercy

[Jodes]

If it happens, so be it.. what do you want a cookie if it pans out?

[Everett]

imo there is no need for a reunion. Both camps are happy doing there own thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it........ The only reunion i want to see is gary richrath back in reo but i already know the chances of that happening.

You get dumber by the day

I learned from the best

[froy]

If it happens, so be it.. what do you want a cookie if it pans out?

Sure sounds great

[Archetype]

I've seen the current version of Styx five times; it would be cool to see them with Dennis. I hope Larry opens for them! Larry's an awesome performer and incredibly talented. I just wanna see a Dennis reunion for the nostalgia of it. I'm not old enough to have seen Styx with Dennis.

[Everett]

I've seen the current version of Styx five times; it would be cool to see them with Dennis. I hope Larry opens for them! Larry's an awesome performer and incredibly talented. I just wanna see a Dennis reunion for the nostalgia of it. I'm not old enough to have seen Styx with Dennis.

Join the club thankfully there's this little thing called you tube

[Mr JY Roboto]

The only way they get back together soon is for huge dollars and that I do not see. You can say the Styx name has been tarnished but believe me, a Dennis/Tommy Styx will not bring them out in droves. Been there, done that. What's left to do? I could see this happening maybe 6-8 years from now when they are all grey and limping and want to give it one more try before it's too late.

[Archetype]

I've seen the current version of Styx five times; it would be cool to see them with Dennis. I hope Larry opens for them! Larry's an awesome performer and incredibly talented. I just wanna see a Dennis reunion for the nostalgia of it. I'm not old enough to have seen Styx with Dennis.

Join the club thankfully there's this little thing called you tube

Youtube doesn't do justice to any live performance.

[styxfanNH]

Dennnis on getting back with Styx from last November

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKnlLwbiGLY

[StyxCollector]

The strongest indication I see of a DeYoung/Styx reunion is that Larry is dusting off his solo career fame. Remastering/re-releasing Strange Animal and Playing two solo concerts. A whole website dedicated to the endeavor, and some pretty entertaining youtube videos.

The Return of the Strange Animal may also mean the return of Dennis to Styx. I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

I've said it all along - if DDY ever does reunite, I think Gowan would stay on and play keys. Sure, he could bring in John B, but why bother? DDY has no beef with Gowan IMO, and vice versa. The check at the end of the night would cash the same whether or not DDY is singing the tunes. I'm pretty sure DDY has no major beef with a certain Tommy Shaw at this point. What we have now - in my opinion - is really down to JY and DDY's relationship. Just look at my interview - he tends to be flattering of Tommy, but it was pretty clear in talking to him that there's still some pain between he and JY. He's not transparent, and neither is JY.

I don't think this move by Dennis is meant to force anyone's hand. He's been solo for 10 years, why go back now? And if I know Dennis, he's more proud of starting from scratch 10 years ago and building it back up. (which he also addressed in my interview). To do all of that - and get to this point, even with the TS songs - just to force their hand? Makes no sense. That would have been a move maybe 10 years ago.

[Higgy]

Dennnis on getting back with Styx from last November

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKnlLwbiGLY

Thanks for posting. I hadn't seen that.

[Higgy]

The strongest indication I see of a DeYoung/Styx reunion is that Larry is dusting off his solo career fame. Remastering/re-releasing Strange Animal and Playing two solo concerts. A whole website dedicated to the endeavor, and some pretty entertaining youtube videos.

The Return of the Strange Animal may also mean the return of Dennis to Styx. I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

Let's say there was a Styx reunion, who would be up on stage? Dennis, Tommy, Chuck, JY, Glen, Todd ? I don't see that happening. However, I do see 4 out of the 5 listed on stage again, never say never.

I've said it all along - if DDY ever does reunite, I think Gowan would stay on and play keys. Sure, he could bring in John B, but why bother? DDY has no beef with Gowan IMO, and vice versa. The check at the end of the night would cash the same whether or not DDY is singing the tunes. I'm pretty sure DDY has no major beef with a certain Tommy Shaw at this point. What we have now - in my opinion - is really down to JY and DDY's relationship. Just look at my interview - he tends to speak pretty flattering of Tommy, but it was pretty clear in talking to him that the relationship with JY is broken.

I don't think this move by Dennis is meant to force anyone's hand. He's been solo for 10 years, why go back now? And if I know Dennis, he's more proud of starting from scratch 10 years ago and building it back up. (which he also addressed in my interview). To do all of that - and get to this point, even with the TS songs - just to force their hand? Makes no sense. That would have been a move maybe 10 years ago.

I would be really pissed if I went to a Styx show and couldn't watch DDY play keyboards. Gowan's presence onstage would be distracting and not necessary.

[StyxCollector]

I would be really pissed if I went to a Styx show and couldn't watch DDY play keyboards. Gowan's presence onstage would be distracting and not necessary.

At this point if DDY were to ever reunite with Styx, I would be shocked if DDY was full time keyboard player. There were whispers back in 96/97 of them getting a keyboard player, but as the rumor goes, TS talked DDY out of it. Does DDY like playing keys? Sure. You'd probably still hear him doing stuff like the intro to BCM, the solo in CSA, but full time, nah. You'd see about as much as you do in his rock shows. It's much more now than it was 10 years ago, but light years from what he did in Styx live.

[brywool]

I like Larry in Styx a lot though so I'm torn here.

Wake up and throw some cold water on your puss
Larry is garbage.[/quote]

Garbage? His playing is leaps and bounds over Dennis'. His vocals aren't as good. I sure like his contributions to Cyclorama better than anything Dennis had done since Paradise Theatre.