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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:41 am


And many singers were offered to sing for Aerosmith guess what nobody took the gig and The band has now announced a summer tour with Tyler.
If goofy Gowan the impersonator would have had some scruples he would have said NO THANKS that's Dennis DeYoung's spot I don't want it.
You would have seen the band stay in tact just like Aerosmith. But no his solo career was shit going no place and he was an opportunistic fool who took the job and has ruined a once great band.
Dennis was performing just fine no different then Phil Collins doing songs other than STYX songs so what.
Shaw did ZENs Young did Wolves and Dennis is not allowed to do his thing? NO way. This was all about money and when Dennis said he would not split the money made from the VW commercial Gowan the opportunistic fool got a 10 year job out of it.

Thats BS no way around that


Dennis didn't perform adequately for the Styx corporation.[/quote]

Oh really and Just Be is adequate for this corp?
His new solo cd shows just how stupid this corporation is.
Where did you get this BS line from?


Styx found someone who could handle the job requirements of touring.


Touring?
Is that all this is about?
Without Dennis and his music there would be no touring to talk about.
Is that how it works steal some music and tour it to death to make money?
What a bunch of losers.

Gowan's solo career has always been more than enough for a very comfortable lifestyle for him.

Im glad so Gowan go back where you belong

He made the band better.

Than the Hooters


All of Dennis's drama is gone, which eliminated a lot of stress for the other band members which allows them to live better and perform well.
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Yea perform all of his music.
Nice try didn't work
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:09 am

It's all about touring for Styx as a brand. That's the only way they can make money. Dennis couldn't come back and make them a viable songwriting machine again. Dennis can live happily with the $ he brings is with his act. Tommy and JY want/need more money. They need to play 120+ shows a year. They don't have as much in royalties coming in. There's no way Dennis could do 120+ shows a year. Dennis is better off, and Styx is better off. Gowan made it so people can still see Styx live, and DeYoung offers his music live, though not as extensively.
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Postby jestor92 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:13 am

I'm guessing that musically wise Singer believes that the band is better now than they were in their hey day.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:21 am

Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:21 am

[quote="Archetype"]It's all about touring for Styx as a brand.

What are they a pack of smokes
Its all about touring for STYX as a bank account



That's the only way they can make money.

EXACTLY live off of Dennis and the past


Dennis couldn't come back and make them a viable songwriting machine again.

YES HE COULD


Tommy and JY want/need more money.

So they leach off of people during the worst economy ever


They need to play 120+ shows a year.

For what?
And the same lame setlist ?
No Thanks


They don't have as much in royalties coming in.

Who's fault is that?

There's no way Dennis could do 120+ shows a year.
There is no way anyone could do 120 a year
Its ridiculous

Dennis is better off, and Styx is better off.
And you are a follower


Gowan made it so people can still see Styx live,

Its not even STYX he made it possible for people to see Shaw and Young live using the STYX name
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:24 am

Styx played only 3.5 DeYoung songs last time I saw them. (Lorelei was co-written by James Young)
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:25 am

Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.


Keep Dreaming in your theater
They can't even write anything other than JUST BE is that Dream theater?
What job do you have in the band Mister 77 poster?
All of a sudden band employees come to this board and start the BS pub
We have Gowans Wife now we have Keith Marks
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:25 am

Archetype wrote:The last time I saw Styx, they only played 3 DeYoung songs.[/
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Out of 10
3 too many
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:27 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.


Keep Dreaming in your theater
They can't even write anything other than JUST BE is that Dream theater?
What job do you have in the band Mister 77 poster?
All of a sudden band employees come to this board and start the BS pub
We have Gowans Wife now we have Keith Marks


Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:28 am

[quote="Archetype"]Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tom Stevens- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
Jim Davis- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.


Heck lets replace em all
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:29 am

[quote="Archetype"]Musically, they're much better.


Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.

I like him better stoned


James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

I like him better without the face lift stoned
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:31 am

Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.
\

Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.


Your right
They write shit songs and play the past great
Why because they have played the same songs over and over and over and over and over and ...
Shaw and Young can't write music together not now not ever
Thats why STYX is DEAD,.,
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:32 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.


Keep Dreaming in your theater
They can't even write anything other than JUST BE is that Dream theater?
What job do you have in the band Mister 77 poster?
All of a sudden band employees come to this board and start the BS pub
We have Gowans Wife now we have Keith Marks


Yep. The thousands and thousands of people who enjoy the current Styx all work for Styx :roll:

Styx must be one of the biggest employers in the country.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:35 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.
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Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.


Your right
They write shit songs and play the past great
Why because they have played the same songs over and over and over and over and over and ...
Shaw and Young can't write music together not now not ever
Thats why STYX is DEAD,.,


Most new albums from bands of the 70s/80s suck. Listen to REO Speedwagon's find your own way home, or Journey's Generations. Cyclorama was damn good. One With Everything is a live staple.
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:44 am

Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.
\

Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.


Your right
They write shit songs and play the past great
Why because they have played the same songs over and over and over and over and over and ...
Shaw and Young can't write music together not now not ever
Thats why STYX is DEAD,.,


Most new albums from bands of the 70s/80s suck. Listen to REO Speedwagon's find your own way home, or Journey's Generations. Cyclorama was damn good. One With Everything is a live staple.


Listen to Trial By Fire or 100 Years From Now all great cds
OWE is a good tune
If Dennis had anything to do with it
The sucker would have rocked even harder
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:45 am

Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.


Keep Dreaming in your theater
They can't even write anything other than JUST BE is that Dream theater?
What job do you have in the band Mister 77 poster?
All of a sudden band employees come to this board and start the BS pub
We have Gowans Wife now we have Keith Marks


Yep. The thousands and thousands of people who enjoy the current Styx all work for Styx :roll:

Styx must be one of the biggest employers in the country.


Just thousands?
At least you admit it
thanks Keith
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:04 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.
\

Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.


Your right
They write shit songs and play the past great
Why because they have played the same songs over and over and over and over and over and ...
Shaw and Young can't write music together not now not ever
Thats why STYX is DEAD,.,


Most new albums from bands of the 70s/80s suck. Listen to REO Speedwagon's find your own way home, or Journey's Generations. Cyclorama was damn good. One With Everything is a live staple.


Listen to Trial By Fire or 100 Years From Now all great cds
OWE is a good tune
If Dennis had anything to do with it
The sucker would have rocked even harder


Trial by Fire is Atrocious except for Message of Love, When You Love A Woman, and One More. 100 Years From Now is about on the same level as Cyclorama.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:08 am

These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.
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Postby Everett » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:10 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.

Todd Sucherman- Berkley trained and one of the best rock drummers in the industry
Lawrence Gowan- Degree in classical piano from the Royal Conservatory
Ricky Philips- Much stronger bass player than Chuck. Better background vocalist too. Healthier
Tommy Shaw- Sober, healthy, has played these songs thousands of times.
James Young- Has played these songs thousands of times, sober.

Musically speaking, Styx is definitely at the top of their game. They have the talent to do a Dream Theater-esque album if they wanted to.


Keep Dreaming in your theater
They can't even write anything other than JUST BE is that Dream theater?
What job do you have in the band Mister 77 poster?
All of a sudden band employees come to this board and start the BS pub
We have Gowans Wife now we have Keith Marks


Yep. The thousands and thousands of people who enjoy the current Styx all work for Styx :roll:

Styx must be one of the biggest employers in the country.


Just thousands?
At least you admit it
thanks Keith


I thought i was keith? Nevermind i'm charlie......
All in a day's work
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:01 pm

Archetype wrote:These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.


Can't hold a STYK to This Time Next Year another Dennis Classic without the greed.
Crossing The Rubicon blows em all away
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:04 pm

Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.


Trial by Fire is Atrocious except for Message of Love, When You Love A Woman, and One More.


And Easy To fall and Still She Cries and Its Just The Rain and Don't Be Down On Me Baby and Colors of the Mother Fukin Spirit
That song kicks ass.



100 Years From Now is about on the same level as Cyclorama.


Not even close
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Re: Eric Singer says Styx is currently better than the origi

Postby Monker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:56 pm

froy wrote:Oh really and Just Be is adequate for this corp?


It's better then anything Dennis created for BNW.

His new solo cd shows just how stupid this corporation is.


Yeah, and he has so much desire to do that type of music that he would rather perform Renegade then anything from that CD.
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Postby Monker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:59 pm

Archetype wrote:These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.


...and one Dennis refused to record. That fact alone tells me that Dennis' head was not in Styx.
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:01 pm

Monker wrote:
Archetype wrote:These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.


...and one Dennis refused to record. That fact alone tells me that Dennis' head was not in Styx.[/quote


And Just Be puts your head right up your shooter
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Postby Monker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:01 pm

froy wrote:Listen to Trial By Fire or 100 Years From Now all great cds
OWE is a good tune
If Dennis had anything to do with it
The sucker would have rocked even harder


TBF is a mediocre CD. 100yrs is a great solo CD and what he should have done from the begining....but it is not Styx.
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Re: Eric Singer says Styx is currently better than the origi

Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:03 pm

Monker wrote:
froy wrote:Oh really and Just Be is adequate for this corp?


It's better then anything Dennis created for BNW.


Nope GoodBye to Roseland beats it

His new solo cd shows just how stupid this corporation is.


Yeah, and he has so much desire to do that type of music that he would rather perform Renegade then anything from that CD.


Good choice Fooling Yourself is next
At least he changes his damn setlist Not like STINKS
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Re: Eric Singer says Styx is currently better than the origi

Postby Monker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:06 pm

froy wrote:
Monker wrote:
froy wrote:Oh really and Just Be is adequate for this corp?


It's better then anything Dennis created for BNW.


Nope GoodBye to Roseland beats it

His new solo cd shows just how stupid this corporation is.


Yeah, and he has so much desire to do that type of music that he would rather perform Renegade then anything from that CD.


Good choice Fooling Yourself is next
At least he changes his damn setlist Not like STINKS


Yeah, but when Styx releases a new CD, they actually perform some of it in concert. It's not like they released Big Bang and decide to perform some more DDY songs. In fact, they cut DDY songs to add BB songs...and Walrus is performed to this very day.

Get over it...DDY knows he is nothing without Styx. That is why he is going the route of replacing the entire band.
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Postby Monker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:08 pm

froy wrote:
Monker wrote:
Archetype wrote:These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.


...and one Dennis refused to record. That fact alone tells me that Dennis' head was not in Styx.[/quote


And Just Be puts your head right up your shooter


I'd rather listen to that then hip-hop-hip-hop-hip-ocracy. STUPID song.
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Postby froy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:15 pm

Monker wrote:
froy wrote:
Monker wrote:
Archetype wrote:These Are The Times is another fine example of post-DeYoung Styx songs. Killer live tune, awesome to listen to.


...and one Dennis refused to record. That fact alone tells me that Dennis' head was not in Styx.[/quote


And Just Be puts your head right up your shooter


I'd rather listen to that then hip-hop-hip-hop-hip-ocracy. STUPID
song.


Both Suck
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Postby Higgy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:54 pm

Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:Musically, they're much better.
\

Musical talent and writing ability are two entirely different things.


Your right
They write shit songs and play the past great
Why because they have played the same songs over and over and over and over and over and ...
Shaw and Young can't write music together not now not ever
Thats why STYX is DEAD,.,


Most new albums from bands of the 70s/80s suck. Listen to REO Speedwagon's find your own way home, or Journey's Generations. Cyclorama was damn good. One With Everything is a live staple.


Listen to Trial By Fire or 100 Years From Now all great cds
OWE is a good tune
If Dennis had anything to do with it
The sucker would have rocked even harder


Trial by Fire is Atrocious except for Message of Love, When You Love A Woman, and One More. 100 Years From Now is about on the same level as Cyclorama.


Were you actually penetrating Tommy Shaw when you wrote this? Really?! 100 Years on par with Cyclorama? 100 Years From Now is on par with Paradise Theater and Grand Illusion. Cyclorama is on par with Too Hot To Sleep.
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