New Styx Song "Difference In The World"

[froy]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

i agree

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

[froy]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"?

I Love it,,

Or "Octopus's Garden"?

Not that bad not crap But its ok

How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello".

I Love that tune Sterling Its awesome You say Yes I Say No You Say Stop and I say Go Go Go
Brilliant tune

"Number nine, number nine . . . .

"

That was not written lyrics just a bunch of things thrown together,

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?

It's a story about a dude who will crack ya over the head , I think its cool.

Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

I get your thoughts but there is just to much too much great stuff
I don't like Little Child that's crap . But come on

I Will
Hey Jude
Something
Im looking through you
Look what your doing
I need You
Here Comes the Sun
The entire Abbey Road is killer
Thank You Girl
Please Please Me.
Help
Another Girl
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Fool On The Hill
2 of Us
Hey Bull Dog

I can go on forever here
BTW
Mike and Diana is going live on the internet soon
We hope to have you on once a week when we get going
We enjoyed talking to you on the radio .


Sterling

[Mr JY Roboto]

I notice when the song plays it says "Regeneration, Vol1". Is that the title of a new album or a compilation album?

maybe they'll do a re-recordings thing with new songs. like what KISS did with Sonic Boom

I've heard some rumors about some re-recordings going on, nothing confirmed yet.


Sterling

Re-recordings of hits or other? I would like to hear some Wooden Nickel stuff redone but nothing from Equinox on. Young Man, 22 Years..songs like that or some Tommy solo work from Girls With Guns or Ambition. Come In and Explain, The Outsider.

[chickenbeef]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

[froy]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy

[gr8dane]

I'm not too impressed with this song, no wonder it is free. I agree that the lyrics are weak, there really isn't a good hook either.

Tommy must have written it!

Yeah probably, just kinda sounds like one of those songs that isn't even good enough to be even considered on an album, not even filler material.

Don't ya think you should just be happy that they are at least coming out with new material? I know i am.

I would of been happy if it was actually a good song, this song should not be released. It is even worse than "Just Be"

just be is a fantastic song,,,better than anything on 100 years from now

Insanity. I'm as big a fan of the post-1999 Styx as anyone (even created an international crisis violating the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative at the US/Canadian border to see them on New Years Eve 2009 in Canada) That said, to state that "Just Be" is better than anything on 100 Years From Now, is a simple implicit admission that you'll spare no effort to bash DeYoung and compliment post-1999 Styx. All logic is against you here. Is music subjective? Yes. But, you're clearly making outlandish statements to stir shit up. Don't say "oh but froy does it!" because we're all aware that froy does it. Be the better man. Don't stoop to his level to attack DeYoung.

music is not subjective...it's either good or it's not

That is false. What one person thinks is great, another person thinks is terrible. Witness the Ramones for one obvious example. It is down to personal taste and that is all different. The value of ALL art is merely in the eye (or ear) of the beholder.


Sterling

no sir you are wrong. "art" is a business. and either a business produces something that is good or isn't

"Good" according to whose standard? Yours? Mine? Some undefined third party? You'd get three different definitions of what is "good" by that.

This is something I struggle with in trying to write reviews, which is why I write so few. I think, 'Who am I, really, to tell anyone what they OUGHT to enjoy?' I'm not really arrogant enough to think others ought to share my taste. And if they don't, then any review I may write, I'm talking to MYSELF, rather than a potential reader. Music is, absolutely, subjective. It is your own inability to see past your own opinion that renders you incapable of seeing that.

Sterling

I know everything

Aren't you wasting your time on a Styx board off all things then?

[gr8dane]

I'm currently listening to it for third time now, and while I do not think it is Styx best, I do think it is better than many here have said (personal opinion).

I must say, part of the reason I am liking it has to do with a personal issue. Being a college student ready to graduate in 3 weeks or so, I can really relate. I have my big ideas dreams, but reality (especially the current job market) definitely changes things. I can't help but find it ironic that Styx releases this song at this exact time.

So I like it. Not their best song, but it eerily hits home with me at this time.

Its right up there with She Cares, Tommy has really sunk way low with this lame effort.
I see now that they are on this board reading everything that is said here,
When is STYX going to put out new music 3 weeks later poof they release a 7 Zens throw away and call it STYX music. Hey Tommy get your act together man your running on the STYX treadmill.

I agree that it's not their best. Totally. I'd much rather hear this than an album of remakes though, like their last album. It doesn't sound much like Styx, but it also doesn't sound like a typical Tommy Shaw tune. That doesn't mean it sucks. It means it's different. It IS strange that there's been such a distance between Cyclo and this and that they're not just exploding with new, more powerful songs. After all, that was a long time ago when that album came out.

I don't think it sucks. I like it. But I don't love it.
And I Believe in You still blows.

You kill me Just say the songs sucks already. I don't love it but I like it
That's almost impossible Either it's a kick ass tune or it sucks in my book

Ohh,is that how it works.?
Well then,that all of a sudden makes Dennis' last album shit then .
I think there are 2 excellent songs,and and some good songs,and since they can only be great or shit,that leaves more shit than great which means the album must suck.
Sorry Dennis,here I thought you had made a decent album,but Froy told me it must suck.

[chickenbeef]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

[chowhall]

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

Yea. we'd much rather have you and your almost quotations and inane banter than someone like Sterling around here that wrote an excellent book, interviews rock stars on a weekly basis, and has a lot of credibility. Now, I will give you credit, you haven't been banished in the 3 days that I thought, but you're well on your way. Get Lost.

[chickenbeef]

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

Yea. we'd much rather have you and your almost quotations and inane banter than someone like Sterling around here that wrote an excellent book, interviews rock stars on a weekly basis, and has a lot of credibility. Now, I will give you credit, you haven't been banished in the 3 days that I thought, but you're well on your way. Get Lost.

I'm contributing to a forum, why would I get banned for that?

[blt man]

There is a part at 1:26 or so in the you tube video that reminds me of another song. Can't remember what song but I beleive it was part of the Rocky 4 movie. Anyone?

[chickenbeef]

damn every time I hear that song I like it more

[Everett]

There is a part at 1:26 or so in the you tube video that reminds me of another song. Can't remember what song but I beleive it was part of the Rocky 4 movie. Anyone?

Was it the part when rocky was driving???

[blt man]

There is a part at 1:26 or so in the you tube video that reminds me of another song. Can't remember what song but I beleive it was part of the Rocky 4 movie. Anyone?

Was it the part when rocky was driving???

I did a search of Rocky 4 scenes on youtube. I think for about 15-20 seconds or so starting at the 1:23 mark Tommy sounds a bit like the Survivor song (Burning Heart?) in the Rocky training scene. Guitar solo later also has a bit of it.

[G.I.Jim]

There is a part at 1:26 or so in the you tube video that reminds me of another song. Can't remember what song but I beleive it was part of the Rocky 4 movie. Anyone?

Was it "No Easy Way Out"? Youtube it, and I think that's your song.

[yogi]

On She Cares all they had to do was change

'She treats me like a human' to 'she treats me like a hero'.


I know some may think that he was treated like a sandwich but still the lyric is far better than 'human'.

[Rockwriter]

I notice when the song plays it says "Regeneration, Vol1". Is that the title of a new album or a compilation album?

maybe they'll do a re-recordings thing with new songs. like what KISS did with Sonic Boom

I've heard some rumors about some re-recordings going on, nothing confirmed yet.


Sterling

Re-recordings of hits or other? I would like to hear some Wooden Nickel stuff redone but nothing from Equinox on. Young Man, 22 Years..songs like that or some Tommy solo work from Girls With Guns or Ambition. Come In and Explain, The Outsider.

I honestly don't know. I've only heard rumors and nobody in a position to confirm is talking, so I guess we'll see. This might not even be happening; if I had to guess, I'd make a guess there will be some hits re-recordings, but it's just a guess. I'm not gonna hold my breath for the band to re-record non-hits, because there's no way to market any such thing. But something is brewing . . .


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"?

I Love it,,

Or "Octopus's Garden"?

Not that bad not crap But its ok

How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello".

I Love that tune Sterling Its awesome You say Yes I Say No You Say Stop and I say Go Go Go
Brilliant tune

"Number nine, number nine . . . .

"

That was not written lyrics just a bunch of things thrown together,

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?

It's a story about a dude who will crack ya over the head , I think its cool.

Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

I get your thoughts but there is just to much too much great stuff
I don't like Little Child that's crap . But come on

I Will
Hey Jude
Something
Im looking through you
Look what your doing
I need You
Here Comes the Sun
The entire Abbey Road is killer
Thank You Girl
Please Please Me.
Help
Another Girl
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Fool On The Hill
2 of Us
Hey Bull Dog

I can go on forever here
BTW
Mike and Diana is going live on the internet soon
We hope to have you on once a week when we get going
We enjoyed talking to you on the radio .


Sterling

I'm not disagreeing that the Beatles did some great, great stuff; the point I was trying to make is that NOBODY gets it right all the time.

Let me know about your show, are you going to have set topics for each week? I'd be happy to do it.

Sterling

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling

[brywool]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"?

I Love it,,

Or "Octopus's Garden"?

Not that bad not crap But its ok

How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello".

I Love that tune Sterling Its awesome You say Yes I Say No You Say Stop and I say Go Go Go
Brilliant tune

"Number nine, number nine . . . .

"

That was not written lyrics just a bunch of things thrown together,

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?

It's a story about a dude who will crack ya over the head , I think its cool.

Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

I get your thoughts but there is just to much too much great stuff
I don't like Little Child that's crap . But come on

I Will
Hey Jude
Something
Im looking through you
Look what your doing
I need You
Here Comes the Sun
The entire Abbey Road is killer
Thank You Girl
Please Please Me.
Help
Another Girl
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Fool On The Hill
2 of Us
Hey Bull Dog

I can go on forever here
BTW
Mike and Diana is going live on the internet soon
We hope to have you on once a week when we get going
We enjoyed talking to you on the radio .


Sterling

I'm not disagreeing that the Beatles did some great, great stuff; the point I was trying to make is that NOBODY gets it right all the time.

Let me know about your show, are you going to have set topics for each week? I'd be happy to do it.

Sterling

Not dogging ya Sterling. But, there is just no other band that tapped into people the way The Beatles did. As for George's playing- he DID get much better. He was NOT the kind of player that you point to and say "Go! Solo! Now!". He wasn't great at improv'ing until much later. He was the king of 'well thought out and melodic guitar solos'. However, listen to those solos on the early recordings like "Till There Was You" and some others. The guy was a way competent player. His slide guitar playing remains untouchable.

Nobody progressed more then The Beatles. Nobody changed the face of music the way they did. Each album, each single was a progression. Yellow Submarine was written as a kid's song. Was Roboto? Don't think so. (By the way, Yellow Submarine was a number 1 song). Octopuss's Garden is actually a pretty decent Ringo tune. I don't mind it and it fits into Abbey Road nicely. Great guitar fills and harmonies. It beats the crap outta most things that're 'hits' on the radio today.
Revolution Number 9- Yeah, it blew. Lennon was really trying to break the whole Beatles thing at that point. Check out his solo albums during that same period. Absolute trash. But yeah, they had a VERY FEW misses. (Hello Goodbye not being one of them).

[brywool]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

Yer Wrong. No other band, entertainer, or song writers did more for music in our time. Not Elvis, not Jackson, etc.

I loved the Beatles but Elvis was and will always be the man.

Elvis- great singer. Never wrote a song in his life. The early writing credits that he had were purchased.

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

Yer Wrong. No other band, entertainer, or song writers did more for music in our time. Not Elvis, not Jackson, etc.

I loved the Beatles but Elvis was and will always be the man.

Elvis- great singer. Never wrote a song in his life. The early writing credits that he had were purchased.

Like "Hound Dog"! LOL.

Sterling

[Everett]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

Yer Wrong. No other band, entertainer, or song writers did more for music in our time. Not Elvis, not Jackson, etc.

I loved the Beatles but Elvis was and will always be the man.

Elvis- great singer. Never wrote a song in his life. The early writing credits that he had were purchased.

Like "Hound Dog"! LOL.

Sterling

Glad my dad isn't a member here boy would you guys ever here it about bad mouthing elvis... He's as bad as froy in that department

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"?

I Love it,,

Or "Octopus's Garden"?

Not that bad not crap But its ok

How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello".

I Love that tune Sterling Its awesome You say Yes I Say No You Say Stop and I say Go Go Go
Brilliant tune

"Number nine, number nine . . . .

"

That was not written lyrics just a bunch of things thrown together,

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?

It's a story about a dude who will crack ya over the head , I think its cool.

Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

I get your thoughts but there is just to much too much great stuff
I don't like Little Child that's crap . But come on

I Will
Hey Jude
Something
Im looking through you
Look what your doing
I need You
Here Comes the Sun
The entire Abbey Road is killer
Thank You Girl
Please Please Me.
Help
Another Girl
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Fool On The Hill
2 of Us
Hey Bull Dog

I can go on forever here
BTW
Mike and Diana is going live on the internet soon
We hope to have you on once a week when we get going
We enjoyed talking to you on the radio .


Sterling

I'm not disagreeing that the Beatles did some great, great stuff; the point I was trying to make is that NOBODY gets it right all the time.

Let me know about your show, are you going to have set topics for each week? I'd be happy to do it.

Sterling

Not dogging ya Sterling. But, there is just no other band that tapped into people the way The Beatles did. As for George's playing- he DID get much better. He was NOT the kind of player that you point to and say "Go! Solo! Now!". He wasn't great at improv'ing until much later. He was the king of 'well thought out and melodic guitar solos'. However, listen to those solos on the early recordings like "Till There Was You" and some others. The guy was a way competent player. His slide guitar playing remains untouchable.

Nobody progressed more then The Beatles. Nobody changed the face of music the way they did. Each album, each single was a progression. Yellow Submarine was written as a kid's song. Was Roboto? Don't think so. (By the way, Yellow Submarine was a number 1 song). Octopuss's Garden is actually a pretty decent Ringo tune. I don't mind it and it fits into Abbey Road nicely. Great guitar fills and harmonies. It beats the crap outta most things that're 'hits' on the radio today.
Revolution Number 9- Yeah, it blew. Lennon was really trying to break the whole Beatles thing at that point. Check out his solo albums during that same period. Absolute trash. But yeah, they had a VERY FEW misses. (Hello Goodbye not being one of them).

I'm not arguing that the Beatles weren't the most influential band of the rock era. They were, no doubt. I really can't stand either the tone or the content of SOME of George's early solos, to me some of them sound like a kid in a garage band is playing along with good musicians. Others are fine or even good. I thought his real strength as a guitarist was in slide and he didn't discover that until a bit later.

We'll have to agree to disagree about "Yellow Submarine" and "Octopus's Garden". They just don't work for me at all. "Hello Goodbye" I think is a great melody and arrangement, I just can't get past the utter silliness of the lyric. To me that sounds like he made it up while singing it. If Styx had written that song and they released it tomorrow, I think people would be trashing it on this board left, right and center. But maybe not, what do I know? Hard to predict a thing like that.


Sterling

[chickenbeef]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling

it's only rock and roll, no debate needed

[brywool]

By the way...
If Styx is doing re-records, I think that will pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Love the band in either incarnation, but I'm tired of the live albums, and didn't dig the covers album.
They've already re-recorded everything they could do, though live. Come on...

Styx- NEW music, please!!!

I am already not buying concert tickets until they're doing new songs in the show. SO pissed I missed the Cyclo show (I was working)

[chickenbeef]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"?

I Love it,,

Or "Octopus's Garden"?

Not that bad not crap But its ok

How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello".

I Love that tune Sterling Its awesome You say Yes I Say No You Say Stop and I say Go Go Go
Brilliant tune

"Number nine, number nine . . . .

"

That was not written lyrics just a bunch of things thrown together,

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?

It's a story about a dude who will crack ya over the head , I think its cool.

Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

I get your thoughts but there is just to much too much great stuff
I don't like Little Child that's crap . But come on

I Will
Hey Jude
Something
Im looking through you
Look what your doing
I need You
Here Comes the Sun
The entire Abbey Road is killer
Thank You Girl
Please Please Me.
Help
Another Girl
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Fool On The Hill
2 of Us
Hey Bull Dog

I can go on forever here
BTW
Mike and Diana is going live on the internet soon
We hope to have you on once a week when we get going
We enjoyed talking to you on the radio .


Sterling

I'm not disagreeing that the Beatles did some great, great stuff; the point I was trying to make is that NOBODY gets it right all the time.

Let me know about your show, are you going to have set topics for each week? I'd be happy to do it.

Sterling

Not dogging ya Sterling. But, there is just no other band that tapped into people the way The Beatles did. As for George's playing- he DID get much better. He was NOT the kind of player that you point to and say "Go! Solo! Now!". He wasn't great at improv'ing until much later. He was the king of 'well thought out and melodic guitar solos'. However, listen to those solos on the early recordings like "Till There Was You" and some others. The guy was a way competent player. His slide guitar playing remains untouchable.

Nobody progressed more then The Beatles. Nobody changed the face of music the way they did. Each album, each single was a progression. Yellow Submarine was written as a kid's song. Was Roboto? Don't think so. (By the way, Yellow Submarine was a number 1 song). Octopuss's Garden is actually a pretty decent Ringo tune. I don't mind it and it fits into Abbey Road nicely. Great guitar fills and harmonies. It beats the crap outta most things that're 'hits' on the radio today.
Revolution Number 9- Yeah, it blew. Lennon was really trying to break the whole Beatles thing at that point. Check out his solo albums during that same period. Absolute trash. But yeah, they had a VERY FEW misses. (Hello Goodbye not being one of them).

I'm not arguing that the Beatles weren't the most influential band of the rock era. They were, no doubt. I really can't stand either the tone or the content of SOME of George's early solos, to me some of them sound like a kid in a garage band is playing along with good musicians. Others are fine or even good. I thought his real strength as a guitarist was in slide and he didn't discover that until a bit later.

We'll have to agree to disagree about "Yellow Submarine" and "Octopus's Garden". They just don't work for me at all. "Hello Goodbye" I think is a great melody and arrangement, I just can't get past the utter silliness of the lyric. To me that sounds like he made it up while singing it. If Styx had written that song and they released it tomorrow, I think people would be trashing it on this board left, right and center. But maybe not, what do I know? Hard to predict a thing like that.


Sterling

go buy the BBC session NOW!!!!

[Rockwriter]

I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.

They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling

the beatles never released utter crap.

"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling

ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx

Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy

he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book

You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling

it's only rock and roll, no debate needed

So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling

[Everett]

By the way...
If Styx is doing re-records, I think that will pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Love the band in either incarnation, but I'm tired of the live albums, and didn't dig the covers album.
They've already re-recorded everything they could do, though live. Come on...

Styx- NEW music, please!!!

I am already not buying concert tickets until they're doing new songs in the show. SO pissed I missed the Cyclo show (I was working)

If they do the re records they should do the journey thing, one disc new songs, one disc re record and as a bonus a live dvd.