New Styx Song "Difference In The World"

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Postby Rockwriter » Tue May 04, 2010 4:33 am

Thenightbull wrote:
brywool wrote:By the way...
If Styx is doing re-records, I think that will pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Love the band in either incarnation, but I'm tired of the live albums, and didn't dig the covers album.
They've already re-recorded everything they could do, though live. Come on...

Styx- NEW music, please!!!

I am already not buying concert tickets until they're doing new songs in the show. SO pissed I missed the Cyclo show (I was working)


If they do the re records they should do the journey thing, one disc new songs, one disc re record and as a bonus a live dvd.


We'll see! Rumors are merely rumors at this point. I can understand why bands in general have been re-recording hits, though, it's just easier to market stuff like that, while fans are generally disinclined to purchase new music and the market is set up not to support it. I hate that, and I bet most bands do, too, but what are they supposed to do? It's very tough right now and getting tougher all the time. I'd be curious to hear whatever Styx comes up with next, new or not. I'd rather see the band moving in any direction than sitting still.

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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 4:41 am

Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling


it's only rock and roll, no debate needed


So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling


when you buy the BBC sessions.
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Postby LtVanish » Tue May 04, 2010 4:45 am

Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:
brywool wrote:By the way...
If Styx is doing re-records, I think that will pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Love the band in either incarnation, but I'm tired of the live albums, and didn't dig the covers album.
They've already re-recorded everything they could do, though live. Come on...

Styx- NEW music, please!!!

I am already not buying concert tickets until they're doing new songs in the show. SO pissed I missed the Cyclo show (I was working)


If they do the re records they should do the journey thing, one disc new songs, one disc re record and as a bonus a live dvd.


We'll see! Rumors are merely rumors at this point. I can understand why bands in general have been re-recording hits, though, it's just easier to market stuff like that, while fans are generally disinclined to purchase new music and the market is set up not to support it. I hate that, and I bet most bands do, too, but what are they supposed to do? It's very tough right now and getting tougher all the time. I'd be curious to hear whatever Styx comes up with next, new or not. I'd rather see the band moving in any direction than sitting still.

Sterling


Do you think Styx may have a deal with Walmart in the works? Kinda like what Foreigner and Journey just released?
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Postby Rockwriter » Tue May 04, 2010 4:47 am

chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling


it's only rock and roll, no debate needed


So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling


when you buy the BBC sessions.


My buying or not buying some decades-old sessions has nothing in the world to do with your having been demonstrably wrong and then displaying it for everyone to see. You were wrong, you know you were wrong, and it is easy for everyone here to verify for themselves that you were wrong. Why can't you simply admit that you were wrong? Everyone is wrong sometimes, admit it and move on.


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Postby brywool » Tue May 04, 2010 4:57 am

Thenightbull wrote:
brywool wrote:By the way...
If Styx is doing re-records, I think that will pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Love the band in either incarnation, but I'm tired of the live albums, and didn't dig the covers album.
They've already re-recorded everything they could do, though live. Come on...

Styx- NEW music, please!!!

I am already not buying concert tickets until they're doing new songs in the show. SO pissed I missed the Cyclo show (I was working)


If they do the re records they should do the journey thing, one disc new songs, one disc re record and as a bonus a live dvd.


yeah, that's the ONLY way I'd accept it, but only if it was a stipulation put upon them, as it was for Journey, by the record company (WalMart). I'm a huge fan of Arnel and Journey and it was a necessary evil for them. I don't listen to the rerecords much, but have spun the newer stuff to death.

Now Froy will chime in with (incredibly lame) Monkey comments...

Say what you want, the guy's a helluva singer.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby brywool » Tue May 04, 2010 5:02 am

Rockwriter wrote:
We'll see! Rumors are merely rumors at this point. I can understand why bands in general have been re-recording hits, though, it's just easier to market stuff like that, while fans are generally disinclined to purchase new music and the market is set up not to support it. I hate that, and I bet most bands do, too, but what are they supposed to do? It's very tough right now and getting tougher all the time. I'd be curious to hear whatever Styx comes up with next, new or not. I'd rather see the band moving in any direction than sitting still.

Sterling



If Styx and other bands were smart, they'd market the new stuff with their web sites and sell through there, thus keeping the profits. The bad part is, that if Journey had done that, it wouldn't have been as successful as it was, no way. Great album, but with Walmart behind it, it could only do well.
It's too bad record companies have chosen to run and hide instead of finding new ways to work in the 'electronic age'.

By the way- the new track (to get back to the subject)- Maybe they're just not going to give away the stellar great album track? Maybe this is something they just had laying around and said "hey, let's just make it a freebee for fans". Maybe (and probably) they realize that it's more a demo-ey kind of track. Didn't Dennis do a similar thing with that terrible "Love Foretold" thing?

And Sterling- ya really need to get the Beeb album! (BBC stuff). It's a good one.

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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 5:05 am

Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling


it's only rock and roll, no debate needed


So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling


when you buy the BBC sessions.


My buying or not buying some decades-old sessions has nothing in the world to do with your having been demonstrably wrong and then displaying it for everyone to see. You were wrong, you know you were wrong, and it is easy for everyone here to verify for themselves that you were wrong. Why can't you simply admit that you were wrong? Everyone is wrong sometimes, admit it and move on.


Sterling


you call yourself a rockwriter but you have never listened to the BBC sessions??? the shear start of the rock band?????
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 5:07 am

Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling


it's only rock and roll, no debate needed


So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling


when you buy the BBC sessions.


My buying or not buying some decades-old sessions has nothing in the world to do with your having been demonstrably wrong and then displaying it for everyone to see. You were wrong, you know you were wrong, and it is easy for everyone here to verify for themselves that you were wrong. Why can't you simply admit that you were wrong? Everyone is wrong sometimes, admit it and move on.


Sterling


you were trying to pass your book of as authentic but you missed the two members that were at the heart of the "drama"
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Postby brywool » Tue May 04, 2010 5:08 am

Dang, why all the slinging at Sterling???????

Sterling- loved your book.

You other kids, play nice.


I think I just remembered why I haven't posted in so long....
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Postby Rockwriter » Tue May 04, 2010 5:25 am

chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

Sterling


it's only rock and roll, no debate needed


So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


Sterling


when you buy the BBC sessions.


My buying or not buying some decades-old sessions has nothing in the world to do with your having been demonstrably wrong and then displaying it for everyone to see. You were wrong, you know you were wrong, and it is easy for everyone here to verify for themselves that you were wrong. Why can't you simply admit that you were wrong? Everyone is wrong sometimes, admit it and move on.


Sterling


you were trying to pass your book of as authentic but you missed the two members that were at the heart of the "drama"


The title of my book is 'The Grand Delusion: The Unauthorized True Story of Styx'. Note the word "unauthorized". And if you had listened to the interview more closely you'd have known that those guys are bound by non-disclosure agreements. I spoke to vast numbers of other people, and I used many published interviews with those who did not speak to me directly to re-construct their points of view. I had way more sources than most books of that nature.

None of which has anything to do with what you posted earlier, which was incorrect and you still have not admitted that. You can sit there and childishly make up more and more silly accusations, and you will only look even smaller and sillier as you go along. Or you can man up, admit that you spoke out of ignorance earlier and were incorrect, and move on like an adult. Are you really so arrogant that you actually CAN'T do that? Do you know that arrogance is merely self-doubt turned outward? You come here to mock other people and stir things up - without ever posting your own name - because of your own self-worth issues. You insist that you are correct in all that you say and believe because of your own self-worth issues. You are incapable of seeing past yourself because of your own self-worth issues. I wonder if you realize how obvious that is when you post as you do?

Anyway, this has taken enough of everyone's time, so that's all I will post about this. You are either a big enough person to admit you were wrong, or not.


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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 7:04 am

Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
froy wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:I personally think the beatles are overrated but that's probably because i didn't grow up in that generation. I just don't get all of their hype.


They were first, and as a result they had the opportunity to set the paradigm for everything that a band writing its own songs and playing its own instruments could be. They've done some brilliant stuff . . . AND some utter crap, like every other band in history. But people are so mesmerized by the legend that they can't see past it. McCartney has written as many terrible songs as great ones, if not more. In my opinion, at any rate.


Sterling


the beatles never released utter crap.


"Yellow Submarine"? Really? Or "Octopus's Garden"? How about "You say goodbye, I say hello/Hello, hello/I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello". If anyone else wrote that people would see it differently. How about "Number nine, number nine . . . ." or "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? Not to mention that George Harrison's early playing was sometimes pretty terrible. He got a lot better later on, but some of the early Beatles records sound like an amateur is playing guitar on them. Again, just my opinion.

Sterling


ok sterling go buy the bbc sessions if you want to hear george harrison really rip on the guitar (all when he was like 19), and while your at it go make up more interviews for another book on styx


Take it easy on Steling he's a nice guy


he may be a nice guy but he sure is stupid if that's what he really believes. I heard him on CFRB. sterling: (something like this) in my interview with Jy he said yadyadayada...
JY:(not knowing sterling was there) I was never interviewed for the book


You are absolutely incorrect, not surprisingly. I never, ever claimed to have interviewed JY. Listen again and you will see that is so. In fact, here's a link, I invite EVERYONE to go listen to this show so they can judge for themselves http://www.wewillrockyoublog.com/2009/1 ... rock-talk/

If you were interested in facts instead of simply throwing words around to try to justify your position, you'd have noticed that we spoke about my not having interviewed Dennis, and then I said that the main stumbling block to my NOT having interviewed guys like Dennis and JY is that they have sued each other and there are non-disclosure agreements. You should really attempt to establish facts before spouting off inaccuracies that will only serve to make you look foolish.

Speaking of which, by the way, JY DID know I was there. He didn't know I was also booked when he agreed to do the show, but my segment was before his, and when he called in for his segment during a commercial we were introduced off-air before we all came back on for that segment. That's why JY says, "I never really agreed to be interviewed by Sterling, in fact this is the first time I've talked to him . . . and I thought you were kidding when you said it, but I recognize you're not."

As for my statement about Harrison's early playing, again, it's only my opinion, I am not stating it as fact. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to accept a contrary point of view without bias and look at it objectively. That is the nature of civil discourse and debate. But you wouldn't know that, either, would you?

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So just to clarify, you do or do not admit that you were absolutely incorrect about the JY thing and posted out of ignorance? Because there IS a recording available if you need to refer to it.


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when you buy the BBC sessions.


My buying or not buying some decades-old sessions has nothing in the world to do with your having been demonstrably wrong and then displaying it for everyone to see. You were wrong, you know you were wrong, and it is easy for everyone here to verify for themselves that you were wrong. Why can't you simply admit that you were wrong? Everyone is wrong sometimes, admit it and move on.


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you were trying to pass your book of as authentic but you missed the two members that were at the heart of the "drama"


The title of my book is 'The Grand Delusion: The Unauthorized True Story of Styx'. Note the word "unauthorized". And if you had listened to the interview more closely you'd have known that those guys are bound by non-disclosure agreements. I spoke to vast numbers of other people, and I used many published interviews with those who did not speak to me directly to re-construct their points of view. I had way more sources than most books of that nature.

None of which has anything to do with what you posted earlier, which was incorrect and you still have not admitted that. You can sit there and childishly make up more and more silly accusations, and you will only look even smaller and sillier as you go along. Or you can man up, admit that you spoke out of ignorance earlier and were incorrect, and move on like an adult. Are you really so arrogant that you actually CAN'T do that? Do you know that arrogance is merely self-doubt turned outward? You come here to mock other people and stir things up - without ever posting your own name - because of your own self-worth issues. You insist that you are correct in all that you say and believe because of your own self-worth issues. You are incapable of seeing past yourself because of your own self-worth issues. I wonder if you realize how obvious that is when you post as you do?

Anyway, this has taken enough of everyone's time, so that's all I will post about this. You are either a big enough person to admit you were wrong, or not.


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you take things too seriously. it's not good for you, you'll get all stressed out and have a heart attack. relax and listen to the bbc sessions
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Postby chowhall » Tue May 04, 2010 7:20 am

chickenbeef wrote:you take things to seriously. it's not good for you, you'll get all stressed out and have a heart attack. relax and listen to the bbc sessions


If you had listened to the BBC sessions, you'd know that none of the Beatles were great musicians when they were starting out. They got better in Hamburg, but I don't think any of them would have considered themselves excellent musicians before 1965. And BTW, it's 'too seriously' idiot.
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Postby styxfanNH » Tue May 04, 2010 7:23 am

Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 7:32 am

styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


ok
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 7:34 am

chowhall wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:you take things to seriously. it's not good for you, you'll get all stressed out and have a heart attack. relax and listen to the bbc sessions


If you had listened to the BBC sessions, you'd know that none of the Beatles were great musicians when they were starting out. They got better in Hamburg, but I don't think any of them would have considered themselves excellent musicians before 1965. And BTW, it's 'too seriously' idiot.


it's obvious you don't have ears if you don't think that is A grade musicianship. Ringo was the top drummer in liver pool and that's why the beatles wanted him. listen the BBC sessions again. as tight as an asian pussy
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Postby bugsymalone » Tue May 04, 2010 8:34 am

styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

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Postby LtVanish » Tue May 04, 2010 9:08 am

bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


I'm on board to not comment on anything he posts ever again. Maybe we all could join this deal. :twisted:
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 9:18 am

LtVanish wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


I'm on board to not comment on anything he posts ever again. Maybe we all could join this deal. :twisted:


hey guy, relax. i love styx just as much as anyone here does
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 9:19 am

styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


holy crap, we're not the same person, andrew even said so. unless he's in on it too
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue May 04, 2010 9:39 am

LtVanish wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


I'm on board to not comment on anything he posts ever again. Maybe we all could join this deal. :twisted:


I'm on board too :)
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Postby Bearded Clam » Tue May 04, 2010 11:10 am

chickenbeef wrote:
chowhall wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:you take things to seriously. it's not good for you, you'll get all stressed out and have a heart attack. relax and listen to the bbc sessions


If you had listened to the BBC sessions, you'd know that none of the Beatles were great musicians when they were starting out. They got better in Hamburg, but I don't think any of them would have considered themselves excellent musicians before 1965. And BTW, it's 'too seriously' idiot.


it's obvious you don't have ears if you don't think that is A grade musicianship. Ringo was the top drummer in liver pool and that's why the beatles wanted him. listen the BBC sessions again. as tight as an asian pussy



Where's " liver pool"? Is it near Man Chester?
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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 11:38 am

Bearded Clam wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
chowhall wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:you take things to seriously. it's not good for you, you'll get all stressed out and have a heart attack. relax and listen to the bbc sessions


If you had listened to the BBC sessions, you'd know that none of the Beatles were great musicians when they were starting out. They got better in Hamburg, but I don't think any of them would have considered themselves excellent musicians before 1965. And BTW, it's 'too seriously' idiot.


it's obvious you don't have ears if you don't think that is A grade musicianship. Ringo was the top drummer in liver pool and that's why the beatles wanted him. listen the BBC sessions again. as tight as an asian pussy



Where's " liver pool"? Is it near Man Chester?


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Postby Bearded Clam » Tue May 04, 2010 12:44 pm

hey nightbull, do you post on another site with the name " like a bull"?
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Postby Rockwriter » Tue May 04, 2010 1:30 pm

bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


Shit, you're probably right about that. I ought to know better. In fact I DO know better. I don't know what came over me to lose sight of that. I am generally the last guy in the world to engage in this kind of stupidity. And that's ALL it is, on my part as well. I feel like Glen! LOL. Remember when he said, "I keep wondering, who is the stupid one here; Dan, or Glen?" LOL. That's kinda how I feel right now. I suppose I felt the need to defend myself because my journalistic integrity was attacked . . . which is stupid in itself in light of the fact that most people here know my writing and my positions. Everyone here already feels however they feel, so why do I even bother to feel defensive? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Silly me.


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Postby Everett » Tue May 04, 2010 1:42 pm

Rockwriter wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


Shit, you're probably right about that. I ought to know better. In fact I DO know better. I don't know what came over me to lose sight of that. I am generally the last guy in the world to engage in this kind of stupidity. And that's ALL it is, on my part as well. I feel like Glen! LOL. Remember when he said, "I keep wondering, who is the stupid one here; Dan, or Glen?" LOL. That's kinda how I feel right now. I suppose I felt the need to defend myself because my journalistic integrity was attacked . . . which is stupid in itself in light of the fact that most people here know my writing and my positions. Everyone here already feels however they feel, so why do I even bother to feel defensive? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Silly me.


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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 2:04 pm

Thenightbull wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


Shit, you're probably right about that. I ought to know better. In fact I DO know better. I don't know what came over me to lose sight of that. I am generally the last guy in the world to engage in this kind of stupidity. And that's ALL it is, on my part as well. I feel like Glen! LOL. Remember when he said, "I keep wondering, who is the stupid one here; Dan, or Glen?" LOL. That's kinda how I feel right now. I suppose I felt the need to defend myself because my journalistic integrity was attacked . . . which is stupid in itself in light of the fact that most people here know my writing and my positions. Everyone here already feels however they feel, so why do I even bother to feel defensive? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Silly me.


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Postby Everett » Tue May 04, 2010 2:16 pm

chickenbeef wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


Shit, you're probably right about that. I ought to know better. In fact I DO know better. I don't know what came over me to lose sight of that. I am generally the last guy in the world to engage in this kind of stupidity. And that's ALL it is, on my part as well. I feel like Glen! LOL. Remember when he said, "I keep wondering, who is the stupid one here; Dan, or Glen?" LOL. That's kinda how I feel right now. I suppose I felt the need to defend myself because my journalistic integrity was attacked . . . which is stupid in itself in light of the fact that most people here know my writing and my positions. Everyone here already feels however they feel, so why do I even bother to feel defensive? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Silly me.


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I concur


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Postby chickenbeef » Tue May 04, 2010 2:20 pm

Thenightbull wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Thenightbull wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:Hey, "made for barbecue", Sterling never attacks anyone. Time for you and your alter ego "the day calf" to go away. You add nothing to this site or any of the discussions.


You are right, of course, NH, but the chicken has managed to win, game, set, and match by everyone engaging him/her/it in the first place.

No thread shall go unharmed in the future, sadly.

Bugsy


Shit, you're probably right about that. I ought to know better. In fact I DO know better. I don't know what came over me to lose sight of that. I am generally the last guy in the world to engage in this kind of stupidity. And that's ALL it is, on my part as well. I feel like Glen! LOL. Remember when he said, "I keep wondering, who is the stupid one here; Dan, or Glen?" LOL. That's kinda how I feel right now. I suppose I felt the need to defend myself because my journalistic integrity was attacked . . . which is stupid in itself in light of the fact that most people here know my writing and my positions. Everyone here already feels however they feel, so why do I even bother to feel defensive? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Silly me.


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I concur


I'm glad i agree with myself


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