Let's Count How Many Times Tommy has quit/threatened to quit

[froy]

"yogi"

Let's count the times Brett Farve has threatened to quit.

Fact is Brett never quit Tommy did..

[Monker]

"yogi"

Let's count the times Brett Farve has threatened to quit.

Fact is Brett never quit Tommy did..

didn't realize he was a Tommy fan. Glad he never quit Tommy.

[Monker]

The only reason this thread was written for is to troll for argumentative replies...which is about all Toph does nowaydays.

nowadays?

Well, I was trying to be nice.

[Zan]

The only reason this thread was written for is to troll for argumentative replies...which is about all Toph does nowaydays.

nowadays?

Give it a rest Zan....for once I'd like to see you slam the trolls on here that bash DDY. Just once.

I guess you missed it when I told chickenman to STFU only a few days ago.
I dug pretty heavy into a girl a few years ago that proclaimed she would support the new Styx lineup, and only the Styx lineup - solely because Dennis DeYoung didn't make an appearance by the bus after a show, and her kid was disappointed.
I also defended Dennis when somebody on here said he was so pathetic he could only get sub-par musicians to play with him (ok, that was killing 2 birds with one stone, but still - it was a ridiculous claim)
I also jumped pretty heavy on our favorite Styx shirt wearing guy last year when he was reported heckling Dennis at one of his shows.
I have defended DDY's talent and playing ability on countless occasions, when people just feel like trashing him for effect and don't even really believe what they are saying.

There have been many others.

Am I DeYoung cheerleader? I think it's fair to say I'm not his biggest fan, but he ain't the devil either - it's just that a lot of his fans are. Sorta like Jesus, a bit. Nothing against the guy, per se - more a large portion of his followers than anything else. (and just like Dennis, he's also not the devil, as it were)

Why am I wasting valuable time out of my life to explain this to you, one of the biggest instigators in Styx internet history? Mostly because, as always, you're full of dookie, and I enjoy reminding you of it sometimes. But also because I'm bored.

[Skates]

You know, it's amazing, you lurk for while, read the same comments and realize that people don't pay attention.

We have the best of both worlds right now. Styx is touring. Dennis tours when he can.

We have music. What else do you need?

As for the Chicago show that they had to stop; have you ever played in the rain Froy? Do you realize they weren't the closing act? You ever play when it's not your decision to stay or go? I once saw a legend have to abandon the stage and Smokey Robinson did the exact same thing that the band, got off the stage safely so that the fans could exit safely too.

And Zan is completely right. We have discussed this before, and she has defended Dennis many times. I have too. I like the band the way it is though.

And Zan-the bad numbers are going down-I'm feeling better and the oncologist is saying the words stable....chemo tomorrow though. Ugh.

[froy]

Skates

We have the best of both worlds right now. Styx is touring. Dennis tours when he can.

You have a band Schtyx who is now into the 4th year of the exact same setlist, Is that the best in your world?
As far as Dennis the guy is playing garbage shows, Its time for that act to do a double bill with America or Roger Hodgson,
Im sure his shows are great but the magic of STYX with Dennis is gone, Far from the best of anything with Dennis.
Both acts are budget shows, Styx is a farse married with 2 other bands to fill a 6000 seater just to make it look like all the people showed up to see them. Bogus,

We have music. What else do you need?

Hey follower what music do you have rerecords form Sticks.
You happy about that?

As for the Chicago show that they had to stop; have you ever played in the rain Froy?

Funny you asked I saw Paul McCartney in Milwaukee 1995 it was at the old stadium and it rained the entire show and Paul kicked ass, Once you are wet you can't get any wetter. Styx are a bunch of quitters, Get your money back.

Do you realize they weren't the closing act?

There home town and the are not the closing act.
Oh that's good

[Babyblue]

Froy, we are all sick & tired of your crap.Just get over it now.

[Zan]

And Zan-the bad numbers are going down-I'm feeling better and the oncologist is saying the words stable....chemo tomorrow though. Ugh.

Fantastic news! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, babe!
Good luck!

[Mr JY Roboto]

How many times did he quit? Once. If Tommy had actually quit in 1979, Paradise Theater may never have happened and many fans would have gone away. You should be thanking him for sticking around as long as he did.

[froy]

Froy, we are all sick & tired of your crap.Just get over it now.

Back to being bitchy bLUE?

[froy]

"Mr JY Roboto"]How many times did he quit? Once.

No MR 2 times

Hawks are going to win the cup tonight YES

[SuiteMadameBlue]

As for the Chicago show that they had to stop; have you ever played in the rain Froy?

Funny you asked I saw Paul McCartney in Milwaukee 1995 it was at the old stadium and it rained the entire show and Paul kicked ass, Once you are wet you can't get any wetter. Styx are a bunch of quitters, Get your money back.

Dennis had to cut his show short in Oshkosh a few years ago. Before his show started there was a huge storm that went through, with lightning. Everyone was being updated by the venue regarding the weather, actually every 5 minutes.

The storm let up, but it was still raining. I couldn't believe it, NO ONE left. Everyone was standing in the rain. But due to time, his show was cut short, not too short though, I think only 2 songs.

Oh and this was Jimmy L's first appearance

If I'm not mistaken, most tickets especially for outdoor events say NO REFUND.


Oh and that also reminds me what happened in Waukesha a few years ago. Remember the huge storm and flooding in June? There were tornado's and everything. Cosmo and Dennis were cancelled due to the flooding under the tent, it was about a foot of water, at least. It wasn't the musicians fault, but that concert was cancelled with no refunds - that whole day/night is a long story. I was still there It's the same weekend Lake Delton was drained out.

[Toph]

How many times did he quit? Once. If Tommy had actually quit in 1979, Paradise Theater may never have happened and many fans would have gone away. You should be thanking him for sticking around as long as he did.

Given that Tommy only contributed one real song to that album (guess the drug use was pretty high at that point) - you really wouldn't have lost too much...

[froy]

Oh and that also reminds me what happened in Waukesha a few years ago. Remember the huge storm and flooding in June? There were tornado's and everything. Cosmo and Dennis were cancelled due to the flooding under the tent, it was about a foot of water, at least. It wasn't the musicians fault, but that concert was cancelled with no refunds -

There was never a SHOW, I get your point Laurie your sticking up for the band instead of the fans.
Why I don't know.

that whole day/night is a long story. I was still there It's the same weekend Lake Delton was drained out.

The guy who put on that show went bankrupt because of it, I would never but tixs for a outdoor show until the day of,

[pinkfloyd1973]

I was still there It's the same weekend Lake Delton was drained out.

Beautiful lake and I was sad when it happened...been on Lake Delton many a times

[pinkfloyd1973]

And Zan-the bad numbers are going down-I'm feeling better and the oncologist is saying the words stable....chemo tomorrow though. Ugh.

Good luck to you Skates, I remember you from the old Styxboard BB


Robin

[Toph]

The only reason this thread was written for is to troll for argumentative replies...which is about all Toph does nowaydays.

nowadays?

Give it a rest Zan....for once I'd like to see you slam the trolls on here that bash DDY. Just once.

I guess you missed it when I told chickenman to STFU only a few days ago.
I dug pretty heavy into a girl a few years ago that proclaimed she would support the new Styx lineup, and only the Styx lineup - solely because Dennis DeYoung didn't make an appearance by the bus after a show, and her kid was disappointed.
I also defended Dennis when somebody on here said he was so pathetic he could only get sub-par musicians to play with him (ok, that was killing 2 birds with one stone, but still - it was a ridiculous claim)
I also jumped pretty heavy on our favorite Styx shirt wearing guy last year when he was reported heckling Dennis at one of his shows.
I have defended DDY's talent and playing ability on countless occasions, when people just feel like trashing him for effect and don't even really believe what they are saying.

There have been many others.

Am I DeYoung cheerleader? I think it's fair to say I'm not his biggest fan, but he ain't the devil either - it's just that a lot of his fans are. Sorta like Jesus, a bit. Nothing against the guy, per se - more a large portion of his followers than anything else. (and just like Dennis, he's also not the devil, as it were)

Why am I wasting valuable time out of my life to explain this to you, one of the biggest instigators in Styx internet history? Mostly because, as always, you're full of dookie, and I enjoy reminding you of it sometimes. But also because I'm bored.

You holier than thou attitude really is tiresome...you are full of it.

[Skates]

And Zan-the bad numbers are going down-I'm feeling better and the oncologist is saying the words stable....chemo tomorrow though. Ugh.

Good luck to you Skates, I remember you from the old Styxboard BB


Robin

Thanks Robin.

[Zan]

You holier than thou attitude really is tiresome...you are full of it.

You know, if you'd learn to act like an adult instead of a whiny, adolescent, sh*t stirring schmuck, I wouldn't engage you at all. If you're really tired of it, there's your answer.

[Toph]

You holier than thou attitude really is tiresome...you are full of it.

You know, if you'd learn to act like an adult instead of a whiny, adolescent, sh*t stirring schmuck, I wouldn't engage you at all. If you're really tired of it, there's your answer.

Oh coming from miss mature that means a lot.

[Skates]

You know, sometimes people just don't get it. Toph, Zan is right. You whine and complain an awful lot. Froy, I'm sad to say that I think the same of you. I like the best of both worlds because, quite simply, everyone making the music seems :::gasp::: happy. If they were together, which I know is what YOU, froy miss, they would be miserable.

Do you want that? I personally don't.

It's amazing, you spend time away from these boards, see the bands in question live and realize that like you, they are human beings. Sorry that you are so sad your own misery that you can't see that for yourselves.

As an aside to Zan, darn chemo, it makes me so rational....

[StyxCollector]

You know, sometimes people just don't get it. Toph, Zan is right. You whine and complain an awful lot. Froy, I'm sad to say that I think the same of you. I like the best of both worlds because, quite simply, everyone making the music seems :::gasp::: happy. If they were together, which I know is what YOU, froy miss, they would be miserable.

Anyone rational would see that even if they took a year or two off after the RTP tour, did an album, toured ... at some point, Tommy/JY would want to tour more than just the summer circuit and/or old tensions would surface. There's a very good chance we'd be where we are now whether or not 1999 happened. It may have been delayed a few years into the '00s, but as quite a bunch of us have pointed out, both "sides" are happy doing what they do. I'd rather have that than one miserable band onstage where they all can't even fake liking each other. What's the point?

[Skates]

You know, sometimes people just don't get it. Toph, Zan is right. You whine and complain an awful lot. Froy, I'm sad to say that I think the same of you. I like the best of both worlds because, quite simply, everyone making the music seems :::gasp::: happy. If they were together, which I know is what YOU, froy miss, they would be miserable.

Anyone rational would see that even if they took a year or two off after the RTP tour, did an album, toured ... at some point, Tommy/JY would want to tour more than just the summer circuit and/or old tensions would surface. There's a very good chance we'd be where we are now whether or not 1999 happened. It may have been delayed a few years into the '00s, but as quite a bunch of us have pointed out, both "sides" are happy doing what they do. I'd rather have that than one miserable band onstage where they all can't even fake liking each other. What's the point?

Thanks Allan...

[StyxCollector]

Thanks Allan...

No need to thank me for anything. We're 10+ years into a divorce. Die hard fans are somewhat like kids who get caught up in the aftermath of a divorce. Some found a way to cope and be happy with both parental units, some prefer one over the other and constantly want to bitch about the side they didn't go with, and others could care less.

The die hards make up a small overall portion of the fan base for Styx music (the general condition, not sides). Dedicated? Yes. The majority? No. Neither Dennis or Styx would fill even 2,000 seaters with just die hards.

[Boomchild]

Thanks Allan...

No need to thank me for anything. We're 10+ years into a divorce. Die hard fans are somewhat like kids who get caught up in the aftermath of a divorce. Some found a way to cope and be happy with both parental units, some prefer one over the other and constantly want to bitch about the side they didn't go with, and others could care less.

The die hards make up a small overall portion of the fan base for Styx music (the general condition, not sides). Dedicated? Yes. The majority? No. Neither Dennis or Styx would fill even 2,000 seaters with just die hards.

Not sure I would agree with you. I think that Styx has more then just 2,000 die hard fans.

[StyxCollector]

Thanks Allan...

No need to thank me for anything. We're 10+ years into a divorce. Die hard fans are somewhat like kids who get caught up in the aftermath of a divorce. Some found a way to cope and be happy with both parental units, some prefer one over the other and constantly want to bitch about the side they didn't go with, and others could care less.

The die hards make up a small overall portion of the fan base for Styx music (the general condition, not sides). Dedicated? Yes. The majority? No. Neither Dennis or Styx would fill even 2,000 seaters with just die hards.

Not sure I would agree with you. I think that Styx has more then just 2,000 die hard fans.

In each city? Debatable. I'm not talking 2,000 total worldwide, but like Journey or any other "legacy" band, it's all about playing recognizable songs for the most part (even if Styx is not doing many DDY tunes). Journey's 3 hour tour a few years back was the perfect example; in that first half when they did tunes from the first few non-hit albums which were quasi-prog, those went over like a lead brick and after the first few nights they cut some tunes. People who pay for a show want to come out and have a good time. If it was only the die hards showing up, they'd mainly want to hear the non-hit tunes. The non-die hard, casual fan makes up most of the audience for lots of these bands. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

[masque]

whats the big deal with threatening to quit? in the world of sports or entertaiment, threatening to leave your "team" is a viable way of negotiating or gaining some control.

i'm sure with JY and Dennis in the same room that little ole Tommy had little chance of getting his point across by saying "hey guys, I got an idea"....type of thing.....obvioulsy, he didnt possess the communication skills or the people he was working with, namely Dennis and possibly JY were dominating things.......so what was he supposed to do?

he had written hits and was no doubt the most viable and "eye candy" appealing member of the band in their heyday......he should have had more control.....when he couldnt get it he engaged in the only option left available to him and the only one that a few times got Dennis's attention.

it's a crappy thing to do but you see it all the time.....no big deal to me. musicians being musicians..

[Toph]

whats the big deal with threatening to quit? in the world of sports or entertaiment, threatening to leave your "team" is a viable way of negotiating or gaining some control.

i'm sure with JY and Dennis in the same room that little ole Tommy had little chance of getting his point across by saying "hey guys, I got an idea"....type of thing.....obvioulsy, he didnt possess the communication skills or the people he was working with, namely Dennis and possibly JY were dominating things.......so what was he supposed to do?

he had written hits and was no doubt the most viable and "eye candy" appealing member of the band in their heyday......he should have had more control.....when he couldnt get it he engaged in the only option left available to him and the only one that a few times got Dennis's attention.

it's a crappy thing to do but you see it all the time.....no big deal to me. musicians being musicians..

Cry me a river....

[masque]

whats the big deal with threatening to quit? in the world of sports or entertaiment, threatening to leave your "team" is a viable way of negotiating or gaining some control.

i'm sure with JY and Dennis in the same room that little ole Tommy had little chance of getting his point across by saying "hey guys, I got an idea"....type of thing.....obvioulsy, he didnt possess the communication skills or the people he was working with, namely Dennis and possibly JY were dominating things.......so what was he supposed to do?

he had written hits and was no doubt the most viable and "eye candy" appealing member of the band in their heyday......he should have had more control.....when he couldnt get it he engaged in the only option left available to him and the only one that a few times got Dennis's attention.

it's a crappy thing to do but you see it all the time.....no big deal to me. musicians being musicians..

Cry me a river....

nope...no need to cry me a river at all.....i'm just simply speculating why tommy did what he did.

[Boomchild]

Thanks Allan...

No need to thank me for anything. We're 10+ years into a divorce. Die hard fans are somewhat like kids who get caught up in the aftermath of a divorce. Some found a way to cope and be happy with both parental units, some prefer one over the other and constantly want to bitch about the side they didn't go with, and others could care less.

The die hards make up a small overall portion of the fan base for Styx music (the general condition, not sides). Dedicated? Yes. The majority? No. Neither Dennis or Styx would fill even 2,000 seaters with just die hards.

Not sure I would agree with you. I think that Styx has more then just 2,000 die hard fans.

In each city? Debatable. I'm not talking 2,000 total worldwide, but like Journey or any other "legacy" band, it's all about playing recognizable songs for the most part (even if Styx is not doing many DDY tunes). Journey's 3 hour tour a few years back was the perfect example; in that first half when they did tunes from the first few non-hit albums which were quasi-prog, those went over like a lead brick and after the first few nights they cut some tunes. People who pay for a show want to come out and have a good time. If it was only the die hards showing up, they'd mainly want to hear the non-hit tunes. The non-die hard, casual fan makes up most of the audience for lots of these bands. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

I thought you were talking worldwide. My mistake, sorry.