Ricky on Regeneration and new music.........

Paradise Theater

Moderator: Andrew

Postby Archetype » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:40 am

chickenbeef wrote:
Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!


DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...


I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling


saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts


2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.



BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"


That was an awesome night except for Kevin Cronin's twenty minute story about taking his kids to the Playboy mansion.
"It's really important if you're going to remain a valid band that you play your new stuff. Otherwise you become a parody of what you started out doing." - Janick Gers of Iron Maiden
Archetype
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 2583
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:06 am
Location: Andromeda

Postby Babyblue » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:58 am

froy wrote:
brywool wrote:crap, we're back to this stuff? C'mon....


yea Baby keeps baiting and I keep taking.
Its old I know.



But you see i am not the one baiting here its you not i.
So with that whatever. :roll: :shock: I am a fan & that will never change.
Styx & Gowan fan forever
Keep On Rocking Guys:)

I will never stop believeing in you SP.:)
Babyblue
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8023
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:04 pm
Location: Grits girls raised in the south.

Postby Rockwriter » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:12 am

Monker wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:Absolutely. They started to focus in on just the songs that got the most requests. They narrowed the playlists, then narrowed them again.


This is only partially true. They also use poll data and such. Funny how not too long ago you made the argument about how advertisers choose songs but now that it's applied to radio, it's a 'bad' thing. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.


I didn't say I thought that advertisers using the most popular songs was a GOOD thing, I merely stated it as a fact. Which it is.

"Poll data" is a nebulous term for "got the most requests." You are splitting hairs to try and prove some bias on my part that does not exist.


Sterling
Author, 'The Grand Delusion: The Unauthorized True Story of Styx'
Rockwriter
Cassette Tape
 
Posts: 1206
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:17 am
Location: Nashville

Postby Everett » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:22 pm

Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!


DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...


I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling


saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts


2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.



BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"


That was an awesome night except for Kevin Cronin's twenty minute story about taking his kids to the Playboy mansion.


He didn't take his kids, it was an invite for him
All in a day's work
Everett
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 5791
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:17 pm
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Postby Archetype » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:45 pm

Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!


DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...


I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling


saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts


2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.



BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"


That was an awesome night except for Kevin Cronin's twenty minute story about taking his kids to the Playboy mansion.


He didn't take his kids, it was an invite for him


His kids were involved in the story somehow. I remember just facepalming and wishing he would just shut the fuck up and play some music.
"It's really important if you're going to remain a valid band that you play your new stuff. Otherwise you become a parody of what you started out doing." - Janick Gers of Iron Maiden
Archetype
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 2583
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:06 am
Location: Andromeda

Postby chickenbeef » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:20 pm

Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Archetype wrote:
chickenbeef wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
brywool wrote:
Abitaman wrote:OK band, listen and listen good (like they are!)
Go ahead with your rerecording, give us a whole cd or two, heck make it a box set, but PLEASE put a whole cd (10 or more ) of new songs in there!!!!!!!


DING DING DING DING!!! WINNER!

I wasn't wild about how Ricky said "the diehards want new music, BUT..."
People coming to see the band expect the old stuff. Of COURSE they do. But if you want people to KEEP coming, you cannot do the same stuff year after year after year after year... Why do you think Styx has thrown High Enough in there? They're trying to keep it interesting but man, they really need some new tunes.

There are a few (other than One With Everything) that they could add from Cyclo for example. People might not know them the first time outta the gate, but damn, the band needs to SELL the songs from the stage too and that energy is contagious.

I dunno, guess they could just do a full show of Blue Collar Man with 20 different versions...


I can understand your point, but when I saw Styx in Nashville at the Ryman right before the release of BBT, they played "More Love For The Money" four songs in, and it caused just about the biggest beer/bathroom break I have ever seen. And when they came out at the end and played four covers in a row, people were leaving as fast as they could leave. The hard truth is yes, the vast majority of fans want ONLY old songs. The whole oldies circuit is based on that. That's why it's the oldies circuit, LOL. There was a time when Styx was trying to fight that, but it seems they realize it now.




Sterling


saw styx at the buffalo sabres arena in about '05 probably maybe '04.....people went INSANE for fields of the brave. especially when he mentions buffalos..it was nuts


2003

REO Speedwagon/Styx/Journey? I was there.



BINGO!!!! I remember a big bald guy in front of me saying "wow this guy is better than dennis deyoung" and his female companion was like "i thought dennis deyoung was in journey"


That was an awesome night except for Kevin Cronin's twenty minute story about taking his kids to the Playboy mansion.


always thought he was gay till he started talking about boobies
chickenbeef
LP
 
Posts: 429
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:59 am

Previous

Return to Styx

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests