day 1 - no froy- what could he be up to???

[gr8dane]

I think it would be fine actually.
I think that most would like to see the band back together. However, many realize that won't happen, so they've moved on and it's okay to like both camps. Gowan, Phillips, and Todd are decent (Todd is amazing). The guys playing in Dennis' band are decent too.

I tell ya, if both camps keep doing the same old thing, I'm getting to the point where I don't care anymore. Seriously, for Styx to have the talent they do and for them to be content rehashing old stuff... boggles the mind. I would bet that Dennis does nothing new either. Granted, he had the latest of the new stuff, but I bet after the dismal showing 100 Years made, that he's done with doing new stuff. Too bad on both accounts.

If they're going to get together, it's going to take a 3rd party to do it.

I believe that DDY made his last solo album because a person at the Canadian record label (that released OYFN) asked him to do it. If people keep doing that kind of thing I think we will see more. At this stage in the game I could see him doing one more album. Time will tell. Truthfully, I never expected to even see him put out another album in the first place.

I hope that someone whispers into both camp's ears- "People want new music from you".
I'm trying!

Yeah, it was nice to hear new Dennis music. There were a couple of crappy songs there, but there were also some great ones.

Can't ever really give the guy a full fledged compliment, can you Bry? You and monker are two of a kind.

Well well then,how about a full fledged compliment from you about JY or Tommy or Styx as it is.You and froy are two of a kind.

[froy]

gr8dane"


Well well then,how about a full fledged compliment from you about JY or Tommy or Styx as it is.You and froy are two of a kind.

What kind of compliment would you like me to give to the 2 guys who hijacked the classic STYX band.
Please tell me..

[Babyblue]

"brywool"

I hope that someone whispers into both camp's ears- "People want new music from you".

I think it would be better to whisper into both camps ears that we only want 1 camp

No we don't either.

[Classicrockr]

He's passionate about the situation because its a sad fact that there is no STYX without Dennis. For Roboto being such a thorn in TS & JY's side, why do they advertise the Roboto cover in the background during their shows?





The Froydian Army will prevail......

[Babyblue]

He's passionate about the situation because its a sad fact that there is no STYX without Dennis. For Roboto being such a thorn in TS & JY's side, why do they advertise the Roboto cover in the background during their shows?





The Froydian Army will prevail......

There is still a Styx without DDY & that is the way it is people.

[Classicrockr]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

[Boomchild]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

It is certainly called Styx but that is about as far as it goes. It's nowhere near the "Classic Line Up" and the diversity in music that they had. To me that is what made them great. With the current line up it's like only getting part of the picture. They have limited themselves by steering away from a lot of DDY's material. As far as OYFN, it does have parts to it that feel very much like "Classic Styx".

[froy]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

I concur Captain..

[gr8dane]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

I concur Captain..

Deck hands always concur with their captain.

[DarrenUK]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

You say the setlist is dated but what songs would change if Dennis did return ?, Suite Madam Blue ?, Grand Illusion ?, Come Sail Away ?,

I would love one more tour with DDY but it wont happen ....

[froy]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

You say the setlist is dated but what songs would change if Dennis did return ?, Suite Madam Blue ?, Grand Illusion ?, Come Sail Away ?,

I would love one more tour with DDY but it wont happen ....

Rockin The Paradise
Show Me The Way
Im Ok
Queen of Spades
Best of Times
Babe
Lady the correct way
Sail The correct way

[chickenbeef]

Peter Criss said it best "There may be 4 guys in makeup on stage, but without Me & Ace, it ain't KISS".

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.


Just listen to 100 years - it even sounds like Styx more than the current group who's trying to call themselves Styx. 100 years rocked so much better than Cyclorama did - there's just no comparison!

I concur Captain..

Deck hands always concur with their captain.

100 years from now was produced well but the songs were forgettable. KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

[Boomchild]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

[chickenbeef]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

[Boomchild]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

[LtVanish]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I agree, I really don't get why anyone, even 12 year olds would listen to Kiss. Their music sucks the big one.

[Babyblue]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I have to agree here I just never got into that band at all.But i do like Genes show he is a hoot.

[LtVanish]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I have to agree here I just never got into that band at all.But i do like Genes show he is a hoot.

You don't find Gene Yummy?

[pinkfloyd1973]

You don't find Gene Yummy?

[Michigan Girl]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I agree, I really don't get why anyone, even 12 year olds would listen to Kiss. Their music sucks the big one.

The music is certainly not forgettable, I actually hear it played more than Styx ...whom I also love!!
Play a Styx song for 100 people and a Kiss song for the same 100 people and see which one is recognized by the majority!!
You people are either insane or really, really old!! LV ...you look pretty good for a man of 85!!:wink:

[Boomchild]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I agree, I really don't get why anyone, even 12 year olds would listen to Kiss. Their music sucks the big one.

The music is certainly not forgettable, I actually hear it played more than Styx ...whom I also love!!
Play a Styx song for 100 people and a Kiss song for the same 100 people and see which one is recognized by the majority!!
You people are either insane or really, really old!! LV ...you look pretty good for a man of 85!!:wink:

Just because one band or artist gets airplay more then the other does not mean it's not forgettable material. Look at the current music that is played on the air today, most of it is forgettable. In terms of forgettable, maybe I should have said lacking real substance. Most bands have some material that lacks substance but for the most part that is pretty much Kiss' entire catalog. I would not doubt that more people would be able to pick out a Kiss song over a Styx song. That's mainly due to the fact that Kiss had much better promotion back in their day then Styx did. Still doesn't mean it's good material or that those that would be able to pick it out thinks it's good. Take Babe for example. I'm sure by and large those same 100 people would know that one but may feel they don't care for it. As far as your comment about being "old", actually I think you would find that older people would like Kiss then younger people. The fact is that these older people you refer to were in their youth at the height of Kiss' popularity.

[Michigan Girl]

I was around in Kiss' heyday so you can stop stooping!!

Yes, you should have said lacking in substance, that's entirely
different and I still don't entirely agree!!

[Boomchild]

I was around in Kiss' heyday so you can stop stooping!!

Yes, you should have said lacking in substance, that's entirely
different and I still don't entirely agree!!

That's cool. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion.

[Babyblue]

KISS is a way better band without drug addict peter and drunk ace

Right, If you are still twelve years old or like songs with very simple structure and forgettable lyrics.

what's wrong with simple structure?

no place for hiding baby no place to run you pull the trigger on my love gun

I guess what I am trying to say is that the reasons that Kiss had the success they had was because of their stage gimmicks and Gene Simmons' relentless merchandising and franchising of the Kiss name. There music is just plain forgettable.

I have to agree here I just never got into that band at all.But i do like Genes show he is a hoot.

You don't find Gene Yummy?

That was just to darn funny.

[Monker]

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.

Funny, Dennis' set is ALL older Styx songs and is even MORE dated.

At least Styx performs "One With Everything" and Walrus.

Just listen to 100 years

Just don't expect to listen to it in concert. He would rather perform Tommy's Styx songs then his own solo work.

[Monker]

It is certainly called Styx but that is about as far as it goes. It's nowhere near the "Classic Line Up" and the diversity in music that they had. To me that is what made them great. With the current line up it's like only getting part of the picture. They have limited themselves by steering away from a lot of DDY's material. As far as OYFN, it does have parts to it that feel very much like "Classic Styx".

And, if they relied more on DDY's songs, his fans would complain that Gowan is singing Dennis' songs. So, I don't see any reason to try to please his fans. You'll whine no matter what they do.

[pinkfloyd1973]

It is certainly called Styx but that is about as far as it goes. It's nowhere near the "Classic Line Up" and the diversity in music that they had. To me that is what made them great. With the current line up it's like only getting part of the picture. They have limited themselves by steering away from a lot of DDY's material. As far as OYFN, it does have parts to it that feel very much like "Classic Styx".

And, if they relied more on DDY's songs, his fans would complain that Gowan is singing Dennis' songs. So, I don't see any reason to try to please his fans. You'll whine no matter what they do.

Monkey, your record's skipping

[StyxCollector]

Same thing with STYX - there may be 2 guys on stage (JY & TS) but without Dennis, the show is so stale & the setlist so dated, that it ain't STYX.

Funny, Dennis' set is ALL older Styx songs and is even MORE dated.

At least Styx performs "One With Everything" and Walrus.

Just listen to 100 years

Just don't expect to listen to it in concert. He would rather perform Tommy's Styx songs then his own solo work.

Actually, you're wrong.

1. I saw the song 100 Years live this year (back in February in RI). He does his new stuff very occasionally (although mainly in Quebec), and Desert Moon is pretty much in every set (it was also a minor hit on radio and MTV). Read that new interview with DDY that Suite linked. It explains it all and what he said could also be applied to Styx. He also said it in my interview. It's not the die hards who make up the large percentage of a Styx or DDY audience - it's people who want to relive memories.
2. Styx hasn't done OWE in a long time. And Walrus they don't do anymore ... and it's a cover from the '60s. Nice try. Even songs like "Just Be" are gone, and as far as I know, they haven't done the new song from Regeneration yet.

[Monker]

It is certainly called Styx but that is about as far as it goes. It's nowhere near the "Classic Line Up" and the diversity in music that they had. To me that is what made them great. With the current line up it's like only getting part of the picture. They have limited themselves by steering away from a lot of DDY's material. As far as OYFN, it does have parts to it that feel very much like "Classic Styx".

And, if they relied more on DDY's songs, his fans would complain that Gowan is singing Dennis' songs. So, I don't see any reason to try to please his fans. You'll whine no matter what they do.

Monkey, your record's skipping

Along with everybody elses.

[pinkfloyd1973]

It is certainly called Styx but that is about as far as it goes. It's nowhere near the "Classic Line Up" and the diversity in music that they had. To me that is what made them great. With the current line up it's like only getting part of the picture. They have limited themselves by steering away from a lot of DDY's material. As far as OYFN, it does have parts to it that feel very much like "Classic Styx".

And, if they relied more on DDY's songs, his fans would complain that Gowan is singing Dennis' songs. So, I don't see any reason to try to please his fans. You'll whine no matter what they do.

Monkey, your record's skipping

Along with everybody elses.

At least you're consistently wrong