Dennis Setlist West Bend WI 7/24/10

[brywool]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

[brywool]

I have to agree with the MonkMan. Dennis SHOULD be playing some solo tunes. He SHOULD be playing SOMETHING off 100 Years and Desert Moon for sure. The difference between the two bands is that Styx plays Styx music and it's the Dennis DeYoung show. He really should play some solo stuff.

He usually does. It's rare not to get Desert Moon. I saw the title track from 100 Years in RI in February. He's doing some 100 Years tracks in Canada. The reality of 100 Years is that by now, the album is a few years old so it's not even a new release he is truly promoting.

Styx isn't doing anything new either (and I'm not talking covers) and they have a new song on an upcoming release. They're not doing anything from Cyclorama or BNW (and haven't for awhile). I would argue they are doing more of a faux pax by doing High Enough - not even a Styx song - when there are so many other Styx songs they could pull out. So is that worse than Dennis who is billed as playing "the music of Styx" (which would also encompass Tommy's songs)? Just playing devil's advocate ... there is no right and wrong here.

Both bands know they are there for nostalgia.

Trust me, I'm down on Styx for also not playing anything new.

[Boomchild]

40% of songs were Tommy's lead vocal. Interesting.

And, not even Desert Moon was played - NO solo songs now.

Holy Moly Debbie Downer, You are one bitter, threadcrapping person on here. Did you even read every post???? It was a show with Starship featuring Mickey Thomas, Dennis DeYoung and Kenny Loggins - that's 3 different performers, not much time for all of them.

Dennis only had so much time to play, what don't you understand? He was showcasing some of Styx Greatest Hits, you know, the band that he co-founded some years ago.

Sheesh, do you need every set list posted from all his concerts and how much time he has to play during each show?? He's been mixing it up depending where he plays.

What I understand is he has gone from doing a lot of solo songs to one, and now to none. That is what I have argued on this forum for months now...that he knows that go to his shows to hear Styx, not his solo songs...and that he would rather perform Tommy's Styx songs instead of his own solo material because of it...this set is just further proof of that.

Last I checked his shows are titled Dennis DeYoung and THE MUSIC OF STYX.

No it's not. If "The Music of Styx" were displayed in such a prominent way, it's very possible that Styx could sue him to make him stop.

Looks pretty clear what to expect.

Fact is that he has gone from doing 4-5 solo songs in the early days to none.

The title of the show is pointing out that the focus is Styx. You know, the band he help start and spent the majority of his career in.

Irrelevant to me.

If you have such a low opinion of him why do you care what he is doing.

I don't have a 'low opinion' of Dennis. However, it seems his fans are over-sensitive and don't face reality.

I doubt that the current members of Styx are losing sleep over it.

If he advertised his shows in the way you seem to claim in this post, their attorney's may cause Dennis to lose sleep over it.

Again, I ask you: why do you care what he is doing or not doing? I think it's hard to say exactly what Styx can sue him over since the full details of the law suit settlement have not been made public. I am sure Dennis knows exactly what he can and cannot do with regards to this subject. I really don't think that your buddies in Styx are all that concerned about it.
If they were I am sure JY would have his lawyers on it like flies on shit. As far as my comment about you having a low opinion of DDY, I said that because the tone on the majority of your posts about DDY make it appear that way. Maybe you don't realize that.

[Babyblue]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

Will get back to you tonight on that.

[Babyblue]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

I'm back I also believe their my be alot of personal reasons too.Why he is not singing i believe he can sing just not the way he wants.I have so much respect for Mr P. and it will not change.Everyone likes someone else and that is fine... just not nor will i ever be into journey again.That is why i understand how the DDY fans feel about Styx now.I still think DDY was so cool.But i also love LG.The think i like best about LG is he is being his self. And other bands want sound alikes.

[Monker]

Again, I ask you: why do you care what he is doing or not doing? I think it's hard to say exactly what Styx can sue him over since the full details of the law suit settlement have not been made public. I am sure Dennis knows exactly what he can and cannot do with regards to this subject. I really don't think that your buddies in Styx are all that concerned about it.

Whoah...of course they are gong to be concerned about it. If he advertises "the music of Styx" in a more prominent way then "Dennis DeYoung", he may be breaking the integrity of the settlement and find himself in court. That's just the way it is. Ask Stephen Housden, he seems to be good at such things.;

If they were I am sure JY would have his lawyers on it like flies on shit.

If Styx' lawyers are any good, JY wouldn't need to do anything.

As far as my comment about you having a low opinion of DDY, I said that because the tone on the majority of your posts about DDY make it appear that way. Maybe you don't realize that.

No, maybe I don't care about my tone since so few people on the MR.com forums do care about their tone, what they say, and how they say it. It's the nature of the beast.

[Monker]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

OH, please, this isn't the Journey forum. But, Journey's last effort was not 'great'...very mediocre. Arnel does a 'credible' job of sounding like Perry. I don't think that is impressive. He does great on some songs and sounds horrid on others. It has nothing to do with replacing Perry. It has to do with Journey making good decisions...and what Journey did between Augeri/Soto/Arnel was a string of BAD decisions. Over working Augeri's voice, hiring Soto who just didn't sound right and then firing him to go in the EXACT OPPOSITE direction with Arnel. Just loony.

To keep this on topic, hiring Arnel is akin to Dennis hiring August. What they are BOTH doing is trying to be nostalgic and retro by hiring 'clones'. That is not very progressive and something that I *DO* believe deserves criticism. At least both Gowan and Augeri were not CLONES and brought something new to the mix...like it or not. THAT is a lot more courageous then simply trying to duplicate a formula that worked in the VERY distant past.

[Boomchild]

Again, I ask you: why do you care what he is doing or not doing? I think it's hard to say exactly what Styx can sue him over since the full details of the law suit settlement have not been made public. I am sure Dennis knows exactly what he can and cannot do with regards to this subject. I really don't think that your buddies in Styx are all that concerned about it.

Whoah...of course they are gong to be concerned about it. If he advertises "the music of Styx" in a more prominent way then "Dennis DeYoung", he may be breaking the integrity of the settlement and find himself in court. That's just the way it is. Ask Stephen Housden, he seems to be good at such things.;

The key point here is you are saying IF he does this or IF he does that. It is known that he is able to use "The Music of Styx" phrase and that is what he has done since he has been out of Styx. As I said, I am sure DDY is very well aware of what he can and can't do regarding the usage of the name "Styx". I am also sure DDY has lawyers as well that he would consult before doing anything he was not sure if there would be an issue. I really doubt that he is looking to advertise himself as Styx itself. After all, he himself said that Styx was all of them not just him. I am sure they are not concerned with anything DDY is doing at this point.

If they were I am sure JY would have his lawyers on it like flies on shit.

If Styx' lawyers are any good, JY wouldn't need to do anything.

I did mean Styx' lawyers. I said JY since he seems to be the one that likes to have his lawyers get involved in things. Since JY is a major part of Styx they are in a way his lawyers.

As far as my comment about you having a low opinion of DDY, I said that because the tone on the majority of your posts about DDY make it appear that way. Maybe you don't realize that.

No, maybe I don't care about my tone since so few people on the MR.com forums do care about their tone, what they say, and how they say it. It's the nature of the beast.

I am not telling you what to do but, just because others take that tone doesn't mean that others should adopt the same tone. I would like to think that there are people on this board that are above that and won't stoop to their level.

[Monker]

The key point here is you are saying IF he does this or IF he does that. It is known that he is able to use "The Music of Styx" phrase and that is what he has done since he has been out of Styx.[/'quote]

Not my point AT ALL...as I already explained in a previous post. YOU put emphasis on "The Music of Styx" by capitalizing it. If Dennis did that he would be opening himself up for a lawsuit. That is just the way it is.

The bottom line is it's "Dennis DeYoung and the music of Styx". Not, "Dennis DeYoung AND THE MUSIC OF STYX". One is something that is OK'd in the settlement, the other is emphasizing Styx and may not be covered in the settlement...and may open up Dennis to being sued to stop emphasizing Styx over his own name.

[quit] I really doubt that he is looking to advertise himself as Styx itself.

He doesn't need to. If he puts more emphasis on "The Music of Styx" then on his own name, he may be opening himself up for a lawsuit.

If they were I am sure JY would have his lawyers on it like flies on shit.

If Styx' lawyers are any good, JY wouldn't need to do anything.

I did mean Styx' lawyers. I said JY since he seems to be the one that likes to have his lawyers get involved in things. Since JY is a major part of Styx they are in a way his lawyers.[/quote]

Not my point. I am saying that if those lawyers were any good, they wouldn't need to be told to protect Styx...They would recognize it and take action without anybody in the band having to tell them to.

[Boomchild]

The key point here is you are saying IF he does this or IF he does that. It is known that he is able to use "The Music of Styx" phrase and that is what he has done since he has been out of Styx.[/'quote]

Not my point AT ALL...as I already explained in a previous post. YOU put emphasis on "The Music of Styx" by capitalizing it. If Dennis did that he would be opening himself up for a lawsuit. That is just the way it is.

The bottom line is it's "Dennis DeYoung and the music of Styx". Not, "Dennis DeYoung AND THE MUSIC OF STYX". One is something that is OK'd in the settlement, the other is emphasizing Styx and may not be covered in the settlement...and may open up Dennis to being sued to stop emphasizing Styx over his own name.

[quit] I really doubt that he is looking to advertise himself as Styx itself.

He doesn't need to. If he puts more emphasis on "The Music of Styx" then on his own name, he may be opening himself up for a lawsuit.

If they were I am sure JY would have his lawyers on it like flies on shit.

If Styx' lawyers are any good, JY wouldn't need to do anything.

I did mean Styx' lawyers. I said JY since he seems to be the one that likes to have his lawyers get involved in things. Since JY is a major part of Styx they are in a way his lawyers.

Not my point. I am saying that if those lawyers were any good, they wouldn't need to be told to protect Styx...They would recognize it and take action without anybody in the band having to tell them to.

Why DO YOU care about what Dennis may do? It's pure speculation. He hasn't changed the way he promotes his concerts since he has been out of Styx. I am not understanding your obsession with it.[quote]

[Boomchild]

I have to agree with the MonkMan. Dennis SHOULD be playing some solo tunes. He SHOULD be playing SOMETHING off 100 Years and Desert Moon for sure. The difference between the two bands is that Styx plays Styx music and it's the Dennis DeYoung show. He really should play some solo stuff.

It's his gig he can do what he wants to. First people bitch about what Dennis did in Styx and now they are bitching about what he is doing with his own gig. It's all up to him. I am satisfied that he still wants to make new music and play for his fans. The flip side could have been that he could have retired and that would be it. Lord knows he's not doing it cause he needs The $$$.

[Boomchild]

So is glen done with dennis now?

don't think he can stand dennis

Not sure you are correct about that. He has done some shows with DDY since the DDY's spilt with Styx. In fact, he played with DDY on his appearance A&E's Private Sessions show earlier this year.

[Boomchild]

I have to agree with the MonkMan. Dennis SHOULD be playing some solo tunes. He SHOULD be playing SOMETHING off 100 Years and Desert Moon for sure. The difference between the two bands is that Styx plays Styx music and it's the Dennis DeYoung show. He really should play some solo stuff.

I'm sure he would've played desert moon/ stuff off 100 years if he had the time, every show is different bry. August is a hit for him right now and i'm sure he want's to put him in the spotlight. Granted and this is my opinion he still has some work to do but what i saw this past weekend was not bad at all, and this is coming from a die hard tommy & JY fan here.

august is a die hard of them too. the guys devoted his life to being like tommy shaw and he does a good job of it

Seems to have paid off for him. Lucky Bast**d. I'd love to have that gig.

There's only 1 TS but august is the closest thing to the real deal that i have heard in a long time. This is gonna pain me to say but august does a better tommy then bobby rouse imho.

glen was better

Better at performing like Tommy or what?

[Monker]

Why DO YOU care about what Dennis may do? It's pure speculation. He hasn't changed the way he promotes his concerts since he has been out of Styx. I am not understanding your obsession with it.

If nobody cares what Styx or Dennis may or may not do, perhaps Andrew should close this forum.

YOU are the one who said "it's Dennis DeYoung AND THE MUSIC OF STYX".

*I* am saying that is NOT what it is...and if that is how Dennis decides to promote his shows, he may be taken to court to stop it. THE MUSIC OF STYX does *NOT* have more emphasis then his own name in his promotions...yet.

What part of that do you not understand?

[Monker]

I have to agree with the MonkMan. Dennis SHOULD be playing some solo tunes. He SHOULD be playing SOMETHING off 100 Years and Desert Moon for sure. The difference between the two bands is that Styx plays Styx music and it's the Dennis DeYoung show. He really should play some solo stuff.

It's his gig he can do what he wants to.

Sure, and people can come on to this forum to bitch and moan about it. That is what how this forum has been used since it was started.

First people bitch about what Dennis did in Styx

Yeah, since about 1984...online since around 1992.

and now they are bitching about what he is doing with his own gig.

of course. What, you want this to be the happiness forum? I'm so glad you are happy. I'm so happy you are glad.

It's all up to him. I am satisfied that he still wants to make new music and play for his fans.

And, the point is that he doesn't perform the new music for his fans....he would rather play Tommy's old Styx music.

The flip side could have been that he could have retired and that would be it. Lord knows he's not doing it cause he needs The $$$.

Don't think that will happen...but he could go into writing musicals full time.

[brywool]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

I'm back I also believe their my be alot of personal reasons too.Why he is not singing i believe he can sing just not the way he wants.I have so much respect for Mr P. and it will not change.Everyone likes someone else and that is fine... just not nor will i ever be into journey again.That is why i understand how the DDY fans feel about Styx now.I still think DDY was so cool.But i also love LG.The think i like best about LG is he is being his self. And other bands want sound alikes.

Not saying I don't respect Perry. He's the reason I became a singer. But the guy did a lot of stuff that singers shouldn't do and he knew it and it wrecked his voice. He also jerked his band around, not cool. Pineda works his ass off and he's good. I got no problems with him. If Perry burned himself out physically and psychologically, that's his personal Hell. But I would much rather have Arnel (who is an excellent vocalist in his own right) at the helm than no Journey. If it was just Steve Perry and not Journey, it'd be a different story. Perry was a vocal god, but he was NOT Journey all by himself. If he was, his solo albums would've done as well. I also understand how the Perry freaks and the Dennis freaks feel about "their guy" not being in their bands. I get it and everyone would much rather that all these bands were intact. But at the same time, both of these guys were dictators towards their bands. They also KEPT THEM FROM WORKING MANY times during their BAND'S careers. If you're in a band and ONE GUY is keeping you from working, then the one guy needs to either put up or get out. If Dennis doesn't want to be on the road- then write music for Styx and have Gowan tour in your stead ala Brian Wilson. Same with Journey. Perry's a great writer, especially with Neal and Jon. But if he doesn't have the vocal chops any longer to tour, and the band wants to tour, write songs with Neal and Jon and have Arnel out there performing them. EVERYBODY wins.

Perry's voice isn't what it once was. There's no way the guy could tour these days unless he's totally recovered vocally and learned to sing in a different way. It's been years, who knows? He's certainly not saying. Dennis, on the other hand, still seems to have his voice. Unfortunately, Dennis still has the attitude that it's his way or the highway. Had he been more of a team player and a bit less stingy with his desire not to tour, he'd probably still be in the band. Everyone connected with Dennis (and Dennis himself) has expressed his hatred of touring. Okay, so if the other guys want to tour, do select shows with them and have Gowan fill in on the nights you don't want to.

I think there's a workable solution for both acts that still involve the replacement guys. I disagree with "Other bands want sound alikes". Arnel gets slammed if he sounds like Perry by Perry's Peeps and he gets slammed by the same ones if he doesn't. The guy can't win. Arnel has the range to pull off those songs that Perry recorded in his 20s. Very few guys can sing like that. People should be thankful that Arnel is still out there bringing that music to them. Perry still makes money off of the tours. He still makes money off the records. He's doing fine and doesn't have to deal with the wear and tear on his voice.

[brywool]

On Journey's last tour, they played a bunch of new stuff.

No they didn't. They played three. Is that a bunch? When I saw them, they didn't go over very well either.

So you like unjourney???

Yes I do. If Steve Perry wants to sit on his ass for the last 20 years, that's his business. I've got a lot of respect for Arnel. The guy's got major vocal chops. When I saw them live, I thought he was awesome. Nobody's going to be better than Perry in his prime. But the FACT is, Perry is NOT in his prime and has basically been in hiding since about 96. Arnel does a very credible job of singing THE most difficult catalog that I can think of. He's much better than Augeri was for that band (who I also liked) and does a great job. I really don't understand people not digging them these days. Their last album was great. I wasn't wild about the remakes, though Arnel did them well, but to me it was unnecessary. However, it was a stipulation that WalMart put on them. They did what they had to do. The new stuff was great. I played it a lot. I know most, especially the chicks, don't dig anybody taking Perry's place, but if Perry isn't going to work, Pineda's a decent fill in.

OH, please, this isn't the Journey forum. But, Journey's last effort was not 'great'...very mediocre. Arnel does a 'credible' job of sounding like Perry. I don't think that is impressive. He does great on some songs and sounds horrid on others. It has nothing to do with replacing Perry. It has to do with Journey making good decisions...and what Journey did between Augeri/Soto/Arnel was a string of BAD decisions. Over working Augeri's voice, hiring Soto who just didn't sound right and then firing him to go in the EXACT OPPOSITE direction with Arnel. Just loony.

To keep this on topic, hiring Arnel is akin to Dennis hiring August. What they are BOTH doing is trying to be nostalgic and retro by hiring 'clones'. That is not very progressive and something that I *DO* believe deserves criticism. At least both Gowan and Augeri were not CLONES and brought something new to the mix...like it or not. THAT is a lot more courageous then simply trying to duplicate a formula that worked in the VERY distant past.

I think Revelation's new songs were good songs for the most part (What it Takes to Win being a definite exception). The album was much better than "Generations" for sure. Yeah, I know it's not the Journey forum, but it got brought up. What Schon did with Augeri/Jss was crap. I'm sure they regret it. Augeri was never up to that gig. He did great on his own stuff, but from a mutual voice teacher "that gig was always very hard for Augeri". And I LIKE the guy's voice in the studio. I don't look at Pineda as a clone. A clone would be Hugo and they didn't want to go there. Good for them. Augeri looked like Perry. His voice wasn't quite big enough. Arnel looks nothing like Perry and also doesn't sound like him. He's got the range. He's got the Power. But he's got a different voice than Perry. Gowan sounds like Dennis' top end, but has none of the lower harmonics that Dennis' voice has. Doesn't make him a bad singer. Makes him a different one. As it should be.

[Boomchild]

Why DO YOU care about what Dennis may do? It's pure speculation. He hasn't changed the way he promotes his concerts since he has been out of Styx. I am not understanding your obsession with it.

If nobody cares what Styx or Dennis may or may not do, perhaps Andrew should close this forum.

YOU are the one who said "it's Dennis DeYoung AND THE MUSIC OF STYX".

*I* am saying that is NOT what it is...and if that is how Dennis decides to promote his shows, he may be taken to court to stop it. THE MUSIC OF STYX does *NOT* have more emphasis then his own name in his promotions...yet.

What part of that do you not understand?

I don't understand why you think he will do this. He certainly knows what he can and can't do. So your speculation is basically moot. Let's say that he would do what you are saying, do you think that people are going to think that they are going to see Styx instead of Styx the band? You seem to like to point out everything you feel DDY did wrong in the past. Now it seems you are trying to predict what he is going to do wrong in the future.

[Boomchild]

I have to agree with the MonkMan. Dennis SHOULD be playing some solo tunes. He SHOULD be playing SOMETHING off 100 Years and Desert Moon for sure. The difference between the two bands is that Styx plays Styx music and it's the Dennis DeYoung show. He really should play some solo stuff.

It's his gig he can do what he wants to.

Sure, and people can come on to this forum to bitch and moan about it. That is what how this forum has been used since it was started.

First people bitch about what Dennis did in Styx

Yeah, since about 1984...online since around 1992.

and now they are bitching about what he is doing with his own gig.

of course. What, you want this to be the happiness forum? I'm so glad you are happy. I'm so happy you are glad.

It's all up to him. I am satisfied that he still wants to make new music and play for his fans.

And, the point is that he doesn't perform the new music for his fans....he would rather play Tommy's old Styx music.

The flip side could have been that he could have retired and that would be it. Lord knows he's not doing it cause he needs The $$$.

Don't think that will happen...but he could go into writing musicals full time.

I coming from the point of view that it's his band to do what he wants to with it. People were bitching about how he "controlled" everything in Styx and didn't give any freedom to the other members. That does not matter any more. Show me the rule book where it states you have to play new music for your fans. BTW, Styx doesn't either so they must be wrong too, right? The majority of people coming to the the shows (both DDY and Styx) want to hear the hits and songs they are familiar with. So I think it's safe to say that is why you hear very little if any new material played. I guess some hard core fans can't understand that. The way I see it, Styx is doing the same thing DDY is by playing DDY penned material at their shows. If it was all cut and dry then they could not play them but it isn't. All DDY is doing is trying to present the people coming to his shows a more complete "Styx Hits" package then the current Styx is doing. As far as do I think that this forum should be a "happy Place" all the time? NO. It's a place for everyone to share their thoughts and that is all I am doing. Did I break some rule or something by posting that?