Is James Young even aware of the criticism?

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Postby gr8dane » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:12 am

yogi wrote:Hate to break it to you Froy, but 1996 is almost 15 years ago.

Hope you found a new cane.


I was kind of thinking the same thing.
But 15 years before that,they played for 40 50 60 thousand,so
it's been downhill for some time.

But hey,I am sure 96 was a fine night.
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Postby froy » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:15 am

"yogi"]Hate to break it to you Froy, but 1996 is almost 15 years ago.


It takes time to ruin a legacy I guess.
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Postby froy » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:16 am

Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:00 am

yogi wrote:Hate to break it to you Froy, but 1996 is almost 15 years ago.

Hope you found a new cane.


Sorry, but that was FUNNY! LOL
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Postby brywool » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:56 am

StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


That won't happen... sadly.
That would be pretty freakin awesome though. It'd only be awesomer (!?) if Burtnik was the bass player for most of the night. No offense to Ricky Phillips, but I WANT to hear Glenn's EOTC and Cyclo tracks live.
I wonder if Styx would have to let Suzanne sing backup...

It would've been hilarious if just before "Babe", Dennis goes,

"I'd like to dedicate this song to my wife Suzanne"
and the rest of the band in unison goes
"We've been married for 40 years".
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Re: Is James Young even aware of the criticism?

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:52 pm

froy wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:Does JY live in a bubble or something or is he actually aware of all the backlast and criticism for the stuff he's done? I can't believe 11 years later, he's still attempting to erase DDY from history.


He knows bet on it, That's why you don't hear from him anymore, He knows he fucked up big time bringing in a copycat in Gowan.
In 96 they sold out Chicago with 18 thousand fans today they would sell 1800 in Chicago without a triple bill.


While I can agree with some of your views, I can't when it comes to your view fan attendance. I think the reason for the larger attendance in '96 was more due to the band not touring for such a long time. I don't think you would see the same thing now since you can see a Styx concert about every week. The general fan which makes up the largest percentage of people attending could care less who's up on stage.
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Postby Archetype » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:05 am

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.
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Postby yogi » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:41 am

Who do you think will sing lead on Come Sail Away???
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Postby Ash » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:30 am

Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:31 am

Ash wrote:
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.


Bingo
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Postby Everett » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:36 am

Ash wrote:
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.


Same could be said for ricky's mic
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:07 am

froy wrote:
Ash wrote:
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.


Bingo



You are just out of your bloody mind. :roll:
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:12 am

froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


I don't think you would say that to his face woud you?Who gives a ratsass if DDY comes back or not.Because i sure don't.If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:01 am

Babyblue wrote: If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:





I felt the same way when I saw one of the current versions of Styx (I believe when Glen was still in the band) and heard Gowan mangling one of DDY's song :?
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:15 am

Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Ash wrote:
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.


Bingo



You are just out of your bloody mind. :roll:


Now your back :shock: :shock:
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:23 am

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Babyblue wrote: If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:





I felt the same way when I saw one of the current versions of Styx (I believe when Glen was still in the band) and heard Gowan mangling one of DDY's song :?


Glen, was cool. :wink: Well you know my feelings on Mr G :D :wink: So i know how you feel.
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Postby Babyblue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:23 am

froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Ash wrote:
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


Larry could play keys on the Dennis songs with Dennis just singing like his solo shows. Then Dennis could play keys on Tommy/JY songs and Larry play third guitar.


Third guitar my ass. I'm betting that guitar isn't even connected to the sound system.


Bingo



You are just out of your bloody mind. :roll:


Now your back :shock: :shock:



:wink: :lol:
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Postby Archetype » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:45 am

Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:51 am

yogi wrote:Who do you think will sing lead on Come Sail Away???


Dennis ... the guy that doesn't sound like shit.
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Postby froy » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:52 am

Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Simply and well put
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Postby Babyblue » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:04 am

Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro
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Postby Babyblue » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:06 am

froy wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Simply and well put



Grow up Fred :roll:
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Postby froy » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:29 pm

Saint John wrote:
yogi wrote:Who do you think will sing lead on Come Sail Away???


Dennis ... the guy that doesn't sound like shit.



Thought this would be a good place for this one..

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Postby froy » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:34 pm

Saint John wrote:
yogi wrote:Who do you think will sing lead on Come Sail Away???


Dennis ... the guy that doesn't sound like shit.


One more for the road


Borgata review..Styx, while talented musicians, just didn’t match the firepower of Foreigner.

Even though the band has a slew of top-20 hits that they offered to the crowd — “Lady,” “Come Sail Away,” “Fooling Yourself,” “Renegade,” “Blue Collar Man” and “Too Much Time On My Hands” — the prog-rock band simply didn’t fill its set with enough of the hits that fans would have expected in a show like this. Plus, many of the songs are just flat-out borefests.

Often bloated and bombastic, Styx’s songs lack the heart of the tunes from the night’s other two headliners. The band also misses frontman Dennis DeYoung, a good deal of the brains and charisma of Styx. Lawrence Gowan does a nice job of filling DeYoung’s shoes. He’s basically a DeYoung impersonator with a silly keyboard that rotates on a pedestal.

Longtime member Tommy Shaw still has the boyish energy, great voice and strong guitar skills to carry the show, while guitarist James Young also still has it, showing his vocal skills on “Lorelei” and “Miss America,” two songs that could have easily been left off the setlist.

Even though the band played a good deal of its hits, noticeably absent were “Babe,” “The Best of Times,” “Show Me the Way” and “Mr. Roboto,” which would have been much preferred over “Borrowed Time” and others.

A nice bonus was Styx’s version of “High Enough,” a ballad from Shaw’s former band, Damn Yankees … a high point in a very hokey set.

The “United We Rock” tour could have been a little more united if more original band members got back with their bands, but more than three hours of music from three of the most successful classic-rock bands proved to be a fun night — no matter who was on stage.

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Postby Boomchild » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:39 pm

froy wrote:
Saint John wrote:
yogi wrote:Who do you think will sing lead on Come Sail Away???


Dennis ... the guy that doesn't sound like shit.




Often bloated and bombastic, Styx’s songs lack the heart of the tunes from the night’s other two headliners. The band also misses frontman Dennis DeYoung, a good deal of the brains and charisma of Styx. Lawrence Gowan does a nice job of filling DeYoung’s shoes. He’s basically a DeYoung impersonator with a silly keyboard that rotates on a pedestal.


Well put. I can agree with most if it but don't really feel Gowan is an impersonator.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:13 am

Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro


If you were a fan, you wouldn't demand your money back if DDY was at the November show instead of Gowan. This is worse than saying you'd demand your money back if Steve Perry appeared instead of Arnel Pineda
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Postby Keiferb » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:41 am

Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro


If you were a fan, you wouldn't demand your money back if DDY was at the November show instead of Gowan. This is worse than saying you'd demand your money back if Steve Perry appeared instead of Arnel Pineda


Consider the source.
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Postby Babyblue » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:42 am

Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro


If you were a fan, you wouldn't demand your money back if DDY was at the November show instead of Gowan. This is worse than saying you'd demand your money back if Steve Perry appeared instead of Arnel Pineda


Well it does not really because we all know who will be there in Nov.I am a fan & have been for years.I just happen to think LG rocks it with the band.He is not a sound alike for anyone.As for Arnelfor get about it .I don't care about them any ore.No Perry no journey for me.In my book they are unjourney & they want sound alikes.
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Postby Babyblue » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:43 am

Keiferb wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro


If you were a fan, you wouldn't demand your money back if DDY was at the November show instead of Gowan. This is worse than saying you'd demand your money back if Steve Perry appeared instead of Arnel Pineda


Consider the source.



Whatever :roll:
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Postby Archetype » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:05 am

Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Toph wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Look for DDY to be back in the mix for a few shows in late 2011 or 2012. Larry will still be there also.


I've painted this scenario in the past as a reality if Dennis ever goes back to Styx. He would not be the full time keyboard player, but do certain things.


So Dennis is full time frontman/lead singer? Kind of like Steve Perry was with JRNY? Would TS really go for DDY being out front on all songs? And what does DDY do during songs that Tommy sings? Stand up there and look like an idiot? Or do they give him a tambourine or something to play so he's not just standing there with his hands in his pockets?


It's a stupid scenario one that will never happen. All to protect goofy Gowan.
He's done with our without DDY returning


If he was to be with them in Nov i want my money back now. :roll: :shock:


Are you out of your fucking mind? You would demand your money back if DDY appeared on the Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight tour instead of Gowan?
Simply (and kindly) put, you are not a Styx fan. You're a drooling fan of Lawrence Gowan's ass. Nothing more.


Bud you can just back your truck out of here.I am a fan of Styx & have been for years.So get over it & move on bro


If you were a fan, you wouldn't demand your money back if DDY was at the November show instead of Gowan. This is worse than saying you'd demand your money back if Steve Perry appeared instead of Arnel Pineda


Well it does not really because we all know who will be there in Nov.I am a fan & have been for years.I just happen to think LG rocks it with the band.He is not a sound alike for anyone.As for Arnelfor get about it .I don't care about them any ore.No Perry no journey for me.In my book they are unjourney & they want sound alikes.

You certainly aren't a Styx fan, as you'd demand your money back if a different guy was singing the SAME songs; which implicates that you aren't a fan of the music, but rather the indivudual singing it. I won't even get into the absurdity of demanding your money back if the ORIGINAL writer/singer of the songs was to be there instead of a replacement
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