3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

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Postby Born4adventure » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:08 pm

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Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them
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Postby froy » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:10 pm

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froy wrote:
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Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them


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Postby Born4adventure » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:38 pm

froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
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Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them


nope


it's not healthy to have so much hate stored up
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:32 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them


nope


it's not healthy to have so much hate stored up


You should take some of your own advice. You do the same thing when commenting on DDY.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:37 pm

brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.
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Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:49 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them


nope


it's not healthy to have so much hate stored up



Amen Brother :wink: :wink:
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Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:51 pm

Born4adventure wrote:
froy wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Everett wrote:Hey drew since your here what do you think of the regeneration samples?


I don't really see the point.


Pretty much what everyone say's not broke don't fix it


froy if you hate them that much don't listen to them and let the people that do like them enjoy them



Good to see you back here B4A :wink: That is so true but ya know he can't do that ever. :roll:
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Re: 3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:52 pm

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Thanks we are not interested


Who says????????????????Lat time i checked you were not the king around here :roll: :shock:
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Re: 3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

Postby froy » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:09 pm

Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:


Thanks we are not interested


Who says????????????????Lat time i checked you were not the king around here :roll: :shock:


Check again Im the king,, 8) 8) 8)
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Postby stmonkeys » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:44 pm

it's good to be the king....


(sorry, weren't we discussing history of the world pt 1?)
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Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:52 pm

stmonkeys wrote:it's good to be the king....


(sorry, weren't we discussing history of the world pt 1?)


:lol: :lol:
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Re: 3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:54 pm

froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:


Thanks we are not interested


Who says????????????????Lat time i checked you were not the king around here :roll: :shock:


Check again Im the king,, 8) 8) 8)



I do believe that honor would go to Drew. :roll: It is his board after all :D
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Re: 3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

Postby froy » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:05 pm

Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:


Thanks we are not interested


Who says????????????????Lat time i checked you were not the king around here :roll: :shock:


Check again Im the king,, 8) 8) 8)



I do believe that honor would go to Drew. :roll: It is his board after all :D


Ok I will go with that so Im King 2
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Re: 3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

Postby Babyblue » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:44 pm

froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
froy wrote:


Thanks we are not interested


Who says????????????????Lat time i checked you were not the king around here :roll: :shock:


Check again Im the king,, 8) 8) 8)



I do believe that honor would go to Drew. :roll: It is his board after all :D


Ok I will go with that so Im King 2



If you are nice he just my letyou be Prince :lol: :lol:
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Postby Toph » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:17 am

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brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:12 am

stmonkeys wrote:it's good to be the king....


Unless you are froyline and king of the bog of stench.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:25 am

Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:30 am

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Why don't they have a label to release any new music? This is a serious question.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:38 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Why don't they have a label to release any new music? This is a serious question.


Well, I'm assuming they don't since it is released on their website....As for why, if anybody does answer that question - it will only be speculation.
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Postby Toph » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:43 am

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Then why bother to do it at all? Why butcher these old songs that people love as originals?
You just open up yourselves for justifiable criticism.
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:11 am

"Monky

They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows.


Yes they are about 27 dollars per unit.

So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on?


Dumb question How about why even do it when you don't have or don't want to pay a producer? And there are no labels interested in STYX never again unless DDY comes back.

That is incredibly foolish.


Just doing the regurgitation cd is incredibly foolish.


Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?


They did not have that problem with Perry did they?



And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.
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Postby froy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:14 am

"SuiteMadameBlue"

Why don't they have a label to release any new music? This is a serious question


Easy answer nobody is buying this version of STYX with Gowan except drunks on a Friday night.
Record execs are not dumb but Shaw and JY are period. You will never see anything new from this version of STYX ever again.
You will see Regurgitate 1 2 3 4 5 6 when that runs out they will regurgitate the regurgitation and start allover again.
Shaw has done what 4 cover cds in a row? Man is he weak.
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:38 pm

Monker wrote:That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?


Well, not to spoil your party but I've always spent money to go in a studio to use a real engineer and record my albums (jazz not rock), even though I know I'm not going to sell many and I won't even make my money back on the recording. The reason? I actually want it to sound like a professional product, not a glorified demo I recorded on a portastudio in my apartment.

I certainly wouldn't expect them to spend Cyclorama-type budgets on things like this, and I haven't purchased Regeneration yet, so I'll wait to pass judgement on where it was recorded since I don't know. But I will say this: Styx has a helluva lot more money than lil' ol' me, and if my new album which I'm working on now sounds better than the CD I'll be buying in NYC, it'll be sad. Their budget on this HAS to be bigger than mine ...
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:03 pm

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Monker wrote:That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?


Well, not to spoil your party but I've always spent money to go in a studio to use a real engineer and record my albums (jazz not rock), even though I know I'm not going to sell many and I won't even make my money back on the recording. The reason? I actually want it to sound like a professional product, not a glorified demo I recorded on a portastudio in my apartment.

I certainly wouldn't expect them to spend Cyclorama-type budgets on things like this, and I haven't purchased Regeneration yet, so I'll wait to pass judgement on where it was recorded since I don't know. But I will say this: Styx has a helluva lot more money than lil' ol' me, and if my new album which I'm working on now sounds better than the CD I'll be buying in NYC, it'll be sad. Their budget on this HAS to be bigger than mine ...


Then put up some YouTube's for us all to make the comparison.
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Postby LtVanish » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:10 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Yes they are on Youtube, but it is still not hard to hear that the quality sucks. The entire Styx catalog is basically on youtube, let me look up a classic version of Lorelei on there, then I will listen to the new version, comparing both on youtube. I think it is easy to hear which one sounds better. If anyone seriously thinks that the new version is that good then well, I seriously think they have 'Beans in their Ears'
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:12 pm

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"Monky

They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows.


Yes they are about 27 dollars per unit.

And YOU say they are going to sell how many? You contradict yourself at every turn.

This is not a money making venture. To say so is completely stupid.

Dumb question How about why even do it when you don't have or don't want to pay a producer? And there are no labels interested in STYX never again unless DDY comes back.


How about for the love of the music?

I don't know how much interest there is from labels for Styx. I doubt very much that you do either. If they wanted to, I'd Frontiers and do something as an import, or some indy label in the US. But, I don't KNOW, and neither does anybody else on this forum.

Just doing the regurgitation cd is incredibly foolish.


No it's not, I couldn't care less. Just like LRB doing their remakes a few years ago...Especially at the price Styx is asking.

But, of course YOU care for whatever strange reason is your cynical mind.

They did not have that problem with Perry did they?


No...but the last two Perry cd's were mediocre anyway...so it doesn't matter what the recording sounded like.

Buzz off Monkey with your name calling and insults.


No. In fact, I'll repeat it. It is incredibly stupid to judge the sound quality of CD by a YouTube recording. If you want to act so retarded, go ahead - that is how you sound, like a retarded mumbling idiot who is too stupid to realize that sound quality is degraded on a YouTube recording.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:19 pm

LtVanish wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Yes they are on Youtube, but it is still not hard to hear that the quality sucks. The entire Styx catalog is basically on youtube, let me look up a classic version of Lorelei on there, then I will listen to the new version, comparing both on youtube. I think it is easy to hear which one sounds better. If anyone seriously thinks that the new version is that good then well, I seriously think they have 'Beans in their Ears'


I am not comparing the old with the new and saying which is better. I don't think that's a fair comparison anyway because you don't know what was transferred to YouTube, the quality of the MP3 that was then converted to video, and then uploaded to YouTube, which was then automatically compressed before you hear it. And, who is uploading these...are you SURE they are the final version? That is too many factors to say it is a fair comparison....and the entire thing is irrelevant to me anyway.

If anybody is going to judge the sound quality of a CD by what they hear on YouTube, I think they are playing too much with their ding-a-ling.
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Postby Mr JY Roboto » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:24 pm

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Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Why don't they have a label to release any new music? This is a serious question.
What is a label going to really do for them now? I don't see the point unles there is a market for it and there isn't.
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Postby LtVanish » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:29 pm

Monker wrote:
I am not comparing the old with the new and saying which is better. I don't think that's a fair comparison anyway because you don't know what was transferred to YouTube, the quality of the MP3 that was then converted to video, and then uploaded to YouTube, which was then automatically compressed before you hear it. And, who is uploading these...are you SURE they are the final version? That is too many factors to say it is a fair comparison....and the entire thing is irrelevant to me anyway.

If anybody is going to judge the sound quality of a CD by what they hear on YouTube, I think they are playing too much with their ding-a-ling.


The sound quality aside, I am talking about sound, as in how does it sound? It sounds bad. The new Styx version of Lorelei sounds terrible, it doesn't matter what the sound quality of the recording is like. Listen to Mrs. Miller's version of this song, it is on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfcG7z3MEE it doesn't matter that it is on youtube because it sounds terrible to begin with. Hope this makes sense.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:45 pm

Monker wrote:
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brywool wrote:On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...


That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.


That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.


Not all artists that are in the same position as Styx do it just to make a profit. They do it because making new music and putting it out there for the fans is what drives them. That doesn't seem to be the case with Styx at this point. If they were really interested in putting out new music and make something off it they could, other bands like them have. Surely not a living off it but something. You don't always have to hire a producer, some artists are excellent producers as well. As for Styx, they fired the best producer they had. In speaking about Regeneration it's not just about the sonic quality. It's also about the performances . Which in this case they are lack luster with no real effort to make them different from the originals or stand out from them. There was no point to this other then to have something to sell at the shows. I am also sure they wouldn't have done it if they thought that they would make nothing on it. Styx' real interest is in touring and the profits made off of that. So they should just stick to that and not put something out that is pointless as Regeneration.
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