3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

[Boomchild]

On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...

That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.

That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.

Yes they are on Youtube, but it is still not hard to hear that the quality sucks. The entire Styx catalog is basically on youtube, let me look up a classic version of Lorelei on there, then I will listen to the new version, comparing both on youtube. I think it is easy to hear which one sounds better. If anyone seriously thinks that the new version is that good then well, I seriously think they have 'Beans in their Ears'

They may have hearing problems and not just when judging sonic quality but performance quality. Some will hype up anything they do because they are desperate to have anything form Styx other then going to show after show hearing the same thing over and over again.

[Monker]

On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...

That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.

That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.

Not all artists that are in the same position as Styx do it just to make a profit. They do it because making new music and putting it out there for the fans is what drives them. That doesn't seem to be the case with Styx at this point. [/quote\

Only from the perspective of a perpetual cynic.

If they were really interested in putting out new music and make something off it they coul

And, they DID. There is a new song on this CD. That fact is dismissed in favor of perpetual criticism of whatever they do.

Surely not a living off it but something. You don't always have to hire a producer, some artists are excellent producers as well. As for Styx, they fired the best producer they had.

Oh, please. YOU said it was recorded in someone's living room...not that JY and Tommy, etc, are bad producers. I doubt that Dennis' living room has any better acoustics then the one you assume they used.

In speaking about Regeneration it's not just about the sonic quality.

In YOUR comment in the post above - it is. So, make up your mind.

There was no point to this other then to have something to sell at the shows.

LOL...that point has already been argued by others here. You just refuse to accept that there ARE other reasons.

I am also sure they wouldn't have done it if they thought that they would make nothing on it.

My God, it's OBVIOUS that they are not going to make much money from it. Again, how many of these do you REALLY think they are going to sell? The marketing just isn't there to sell them. At that price, they'll sell less then 100/show and a few hundred from their website. I would be shocked if they sold more then 5000 of them total...in fact, I would expect it to be a LOT less.

Styx' real interest is in touring and the profits made off of that. So they should just stick to that and not put something out that is pointless as Regeneration.

And, your assumptions about Styx's motive are pretty much worthless because you have shown yourself to be so biased against every single move they make that you just make things up as you go and change your arguments when you are shown how foolish those arguments are.

[Monker]

Some will hype up anything they do because they are desperate to have anything form Styx other then going to show after show hearing the same thing over and over again.

*I* am not hyping it. I probably won't even buy it. It gets a huge 'who cares?' from me.

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right...short of hiring Dennis band and letting Gowan go. You are proving yourself to be one of those people.

[froy]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

[Babyblue]

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right...short of hiring Dennis band and letting Gowan go. You are proving yourself to be one of those people.[/quote]


True

[SuiteMadameBlue]

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right...short of hiring Dennis band and letting Gowan go. You are proving yourself to be one of those people.

True [/quote]

False

[gr8dane]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

What they have done right,was get rid of arseface Dennis.
Now I can go to a Styx concert in a small comfortable environment,and I don't have to hear or see him.
That's good enough for me.They don't ever have to make another record.

[Babyblue]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

What they have done right,was get rid of arseface Dennis.
Now I can go to a Styx concert in a small comfortable environment,and I don't have to hear or see him.
That's good enough for me.They don't ever have to make another record.

[brywool]

On the whole, these songs just sound like they were recorded in a living room. I don't get it...

That's because they more then likely did record them in someones living room. Since you don't get it, I give you a hint. The lower the production costs the higher the profit. That is the bands main goal. The love of making quality music has nothing to do with it anymore.

That is such a lame and old argument. They are not going to make anything if all they are doing is selling the cd for $30 on their website and at shows. So, why in the world would ANYBODY spend money on a producer and "real" studio time when they don't even have a label to release it on? That is incredibly foolish.

Journey suffered from the same problems with their last two CD's with Augeri. The quality goes down when you try to record and produce it on your own. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars to record something that is not going to sell 5000 copies?

And, these are YouTube recordings. To pass judgment on the sound quality of a CD based on what you hear on YouTube is monumentally STUPID. But, based on the history of what some of the people say on this forum - it doesn't surprise me at all.

Thanks for calling me stupid... I actually put in the YouTube disclaimer in another post....

[brywool]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

[Ash]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

[Monker]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I did not say, or agree, that it is 'wrong'. I said it's irrelevant to me. In other words, I don't care one way or the other about this release.

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd?

Absolutely...both of those were great...and good things for Styx to do.

The same setlist for 5 years in a row?

That is a lie.

Letting Glen Go?

Seems to me that he quit for his own reasons.

CYO Fiasco?

Not a fiasco at all....Still have that CD in the car and listen to it all the time.

[Toph]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

Walrus is another pseudo hit. I listen to classic rock stations ALL THE TIME and I NEVER EVER HEARD IT ON ANY RADIO STATION EVER....The chart that they quote must be from some guy's basement. I have look at every Bilboard Chart and it has never appeared on any chart. Not a hit. Not a success.


And did Glen quit or was he let go?
Another story that keeps changing...imagine that with these guys....

[brywool]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

[brywool]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

Walrus is another pseudo hit. I listen to classic rock stations ALL THE TIME and I NEVER EVER HEARD IT ON ANY RADIO STATION EVER....The chart that they quote must be from some guy's basement. I have look at every Bilboard Chart and it has never appeared on any chart. Not a hit. Not a success.


And did Glen quit or was he let go?
Another story that keeps changing...imagine that with these guys....

I have heard it on the radio once. Certainly more than I heard anything off of 100 Years From Now. A "psuedo hit"? Agreed. But exposure non the less. Also, I never said it was a "Hit" and I could care less if it was or not. I still like the track.

Yes, Glen quit. But you don't quit if you're happy. They should've done all they could to keep him happy. Nobody changed stories... "Relax. Take it easy".

[yogi]

I heard Styx's version of Walrus a minimum of 10 times on KZEP( 104.5) in San Antonio, TX. It was a highly requested song back then.

[Everett]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Why keep a mediocre member of the band happy? He could've turned them down in '99. To quote froy "bad career move".

[Ash]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Why keep a mediocre member of the band happy? He could've turned them down in '99. To quote froy "bad career move".

Mediocre? He's a METRIC FUCKTON more talented than James Young could ever hope to be in a BILLION years. He's an equally good guitar player and 50000000000 times the song writer.

Styx is not a creative entity. They're a cash cow now. You may like it, he likely did not. Sometimes there is something to be said for Artistic Integrity.

Hell... I'll take Glen any day of the week, any month of the year over anyone in Styx.

[brywool]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Why keep a mediocre member of the band happy? He could've turned them down in '99. To quote froy "bad career move".

"Mediocre"? NO WAY. The guy is a brilliant songwriter. Great singer. Great bass player and one hell of an entertainer on stage. He was a major asset to Styx. Ricky Phillips is good, but he's no Glen Burtnik.

[cittadeeno23]

Glen is certainly NOT mediocre! He is one of the most all around musical talents out there. He deserves way more fame than he's gotten.
I would kill if he, Dennis and Tommy made a record together.

[brywool]

I would kill if he, Dennis and Tommy made a record together.

wow, imagine the possibilities

[Ash]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

[brywool]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

[froy]

"cittadeeno23"

I would kill

Kill Who?

[Boomchild]

Some will hype up anything they do because they are desperate to have anything form Styx other then going to show after show hearing the same thing over and over again.

*I* am not hyping it. I probably won't even buy it. It gets a huge 'who cares?' from me.

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right...short of hiring Dennis band and letting Gowan go. You are proving yourself to be one of those people.

I said "some People" I wasn't calling you out specifically. The simple fact is that there are some here that critique everything that Styx is doing as well as what DDY is doing. So what is your point? I have never stated that Styx should fire Gowan and bring Dennis back. I have said that I do not prefer the current version of Styx and a lot has to do with Gowan's performances on songs that are\were DDY's. For the record, I have also criticized Dennis on here as well. If you do not agree with my comments or viewpoints you can always just ignore them.

[Boomchild]

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right...short of hiring Dennis band and letting Gowan go. You are proving yourself to be one of those people.

True

Wrong again. Never said they should fire Gowan and bring Dennis back. If I have please tell me where.

[Boomchild]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

I have to agree that Glen leaving Styx was not a good thing for Styx. I think that he could have helped them make the band sound more current day without losing the core sound of the band.

[Boomchild]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

Walrus is another pseudo hit. I listen to classic rock stations ALL THE TIME and I NEVER EVER HEARD IT ON ANY RADIO STATION EVER....The chart that they quote must be from some guy's basement. I have look at every Bilboard Chart and it has never appeared on any chart. Not a hit. Not a success.


And did Glen quit or was he let go?
Another story that keeps changing...imagine that with these guys....

Not to mention how innovative doing that covers album was. No other classic rock band did that before. Seems Tommy loves doing cover albums. Between the Shaw\Blades covers and all those off label cover albums Tommy has performed on.

[Boomchild]

"Monker"

The simple fact is that there are some here that will critique anything they do and they can't do anything right.

Tell us Monker seeing that you even agree this Regurge is wrong what have they done right in the last 11 years?

I Am The walrus ? Big Bang Cd? The same setlist for 5 years in a row? Letting Glen Go? CYO Fiasco?

Cyclo. CYO. Walrus.

Cyo could've been recorded better, but the DVD is a great one. Walrus- I'm a huge Beatle fan and it was pretty faithful to their version. I think Gowan was decent on it. Cyclo- loved it.

Letting Glen go- lame. Big Bang- unnecessary.

Walrus is another pseudo hit. I listen to classic rock stations ALL THE TIME and I NEVER EVER HEARD IT ON ANY RADIO STATION EVER....The chart that they quote must be from some guy's basement. I have look at every Bilboard Chart and it has never appeared on any chart. Not a hit. Not a success.


And did Glen quit or was he let go?
Another story that keeps changing...imagine that with these guys....

I have heard it on the radio once. Certainly more than I heard anything off of 100 Years From Now.

To be fair the song OYFN did hit #1 in Quebec, Canada. Not just on one of their charts but several. Which is more then can be said for Styx post DDY. At any rate having anything from these two bands get air play or chart is a really, really small chance.

[Boomchild]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Why keep a mediocre member of the band happy? He could've turned them down in '99. To quote froy "bad career move".

Mediocre? He's a METRIC FUCKTON more talented than James Young could ever hope to be in a BILLION years. He's an equally good guitar player and 50000000000 times the song writer.

Styx is not a creative entity. They're a cash cow now. You may like it, he likely did not. Sometimes there is something to be said for Artistic Integrity.

Hell... I'll take Glen any day of the week, any month of the year over anyone in Styx.

Exactly, my thinking is that Glen had a slim to none chance of Styx going with some of his ideas for Styx going forward because it did not fit the "it's all about me" mold that JY and TS seem to have.