3 New Regeneration Songs on Youtube

[Boomchild]

I would kill if he, Dennis and Tommy made a record together.

wow, imagine the possibilities

Hell, I would settle for just Glen and Dennis.

[Boomchild]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I would kill if he, Dennis and Tommy made a record together.

wow, imagine the possibilities

Hell, I would settle for just Glen and Dennis.

If I'm not mistaken, there are still unreleased Styx songs that Glen wrote or co-wrote. Heck, there are a few unreleased older Styx songs - I'll have to double check that information.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

[Ash]

Look... if I had the money.... I'd pay these guys (Glen/Dennis) to record a new album together if they so desired. They've gotta be interested in collaborating tho right?

All For Love is a really good song. It's dated - sure.... but it's a good song that a lot of people would really appreciate. It has a good Styx vibe and a catchy verse/chorus structure.

I'm sure it would be a really good record and we'd all like it and we'd have people saying Glen makes Dennis a better song writer and what not... and frankly I think those two guys together could be better than Shaw and DeYoung ever were as a team. We likely will never know.

Glen is off in Beatles land making a living and working hard and Dennis is doing what Dennis wants to do. And it doesn't look like anything will change for a while if ever. Dennis and Glen won't make a record on their own dime and lose money... that would be foolish - so someone is going to have to step up, propose the idea, and invest in it - and hope it makes money.

Could it? Who knows. Judas Priest makes records and sells shows so it'd be dumb to say "impossible". And Lord knows Judas Priest has had some REALLY bad albums. (Turbo anyone?)

I'll say this again. Glen is likely the best songwriter that Styx ever had. He may not have had the success the others have, but Glen is an extraordinarily talented, under-rated and under-appreciated song writer. It's a cosmic crime that he hasn't seen the kind of success many less talented yet more successfull artists have seen.

[brywool]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

Tommy and Jack are doing another covers CD is what I've heard. I haven't heard anything about new music. I'd LOVE to see Shaw/Blades be Tommy's main focus. "Hallucination" is still one of my all time favorite records. "Influence", while decent, is a covers album. That was a major disappointment after their first one (same for Styx after Cyclo- whatta letdown). I know Tommy was working on some blue grass deal too. That might be interesting too. Other bands make new albums. Them not doing it is a cop out. Cheap Trick makes new records. Heart makes new records (which was number one at Amazon earlier in the week). Styx appears to be afraid or too lazy for this. That's a damned shame. I also think that Dennis should go back in the studio. 100 Years was a decent record that received no promotion in the states, yet did well in Canada. Okay, try again now. Don't just say "I'm done with new music".

Frustrating to be a fan of these guys.

[gr8dane]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

Tommy and Jack are doing another covers CD is what I've heard. I haven't heard anything about new music. I'd LOVE to see Shaw/Blades be Tommy's main focus. "Hallucination" is still one of my all time favorite records. "Influence", while decent, is a covers album. That was a major disappointment after their first one (same for Styx after Cyclo- whatta letdown). I know Tommy was working on some blue grass deal too. That might be interesting too. Other bands make new albums. Them not doing it is a cop out. Cheap Trick makes new records. Heart makes new records (which was number one at Amazon earlier in the week). Styx appears to be afraid or too lazy for this. That's a damned shame. I also think that Dennis should go back in the studio. 100 Years was a decent record that received no promotion in the states, yet did well in Canada. Okay, try again now. Don't just say "I'm done with new music".

Frustrating to be a fan of these guys.

If the ideas are few and far between,I don't see any point for the members of Styx to go to a studio and hope something Styxie will come out of it.
If the ideas are few and far between,that is probably why we only get a song every now and again.

[brywool]

Gowan and Shaw are both decent songwriters. But maybe they're just uninspired these days. If that's truly the case, then I don't see much of a future...

[Toph]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

Tommy and Jack are doing another covers CD is what I've heard. I haven't heard anything about new music. I'd LOVE to see Shaw/Blades be Tommy's main focus. "Hallucination" is still one of my all time favorite records. "Influence", while decent, is a covers album. That was a major disappointment after their first one (same for Styx after Cyclo- whatta letdown). I know Tommy was working on some blue grass deal too. That might be interesting too. Other bands make new albums. Them not doing it is a cop out. Cheap Trick makes new records. Heart makes new records (which was number one at Amazon earlier in the week). Styx appears to be afraid or too lazy for this. That's a damned shame. I also think that Dennis should go back in the studio. 100 Years was a decent record that received no promotion in the states, yet did well in Canada. Okay, try again now. Don't just say "I'm done with new music".

Frustrating to be a fan of these guys.

What did happen to that blue grass record? Shouldn't it be out by now?

[DerriD]

Tommy sounds great. Period.

[StyxCollector]

If I'm not mistaken, there are still unreleased Styx songs that Glen wrote or co-wrote. Heck, there are a few unreleased older Styx songs - I'll have to double check that information.

I think at least half of Son of Edge has surfaced in one way or another at this point. There are a few unreleased Styx songs/demos, but they're in the band's control and will most likely never see the light of day. That's all I will say on that subject

[SuiteMadameBlue]

If I'm not mistaken, there are still unreleased Styx songs that Glen wrote or co-wrote. Heck, there are a few unreleased older Styx songs - I'll have to double check that information.

I think at least half of Son of Edge has surfaced in one way or another at this point. There are a few unreleased Styx songs/demos, but they're in the band's control and will most likely never see the light of day. That's all I will say on that subject

I have a feeling they'll be released soon, very soon.........

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Tommy sounds great. Period.

I totally agree. I have always liked Tommy's music/vocals.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

What did happen to that blue grass record? Shouldn't it be out by now?

This is from January 2010

Styx's lead guitarist Tommy Shaw has announced plans for an upcoming solo project for 2010 ... a bluegrass album.

Says Shaw " I'm working on a bluegrass album with my friend Brad Davis. We started writing bluegrass in 2006 after I sang on a track of his and liked the way I sounded singing Bluegrass."

Shaw continues, " I love the story telling aspect and colorful instrumental opportunities which are so different from anything else I've ever done. This was the first time I had enough of a break to spend some serious woodshedding time and now most of the writing has been completed. We will be cutting the tracks in Nashville in March. We plan to release it later this year."

Texan Brad Davis is a country/folk singer-songwriter and guitarist. Tommy Shaw was born and raised in Montgomery, Alabama, and also said to be singing on the project is Grammy Award winning country-bluegrass singer Alison Krauss.

©2010 - Janet Carter {excerpted from www.tommyshaw.com}

[StyxCollector]

I have a feeling they'll be released soon, very soon.........

Not if they don't know where they are ... just sayin'

Even if they do, they'd most likely need to get Uni/A&M to release them and I don't think they will for various reasons, let alone the fact that it is a reminder of the past with Dennis and not a future with Gowan.

[Ash]

If those songs are re-recorded ... then they don't have to pay anyone anything as they hold the publishing on them

[StyxCollector]

If those songs are re-recorded ... then they don't have to pay anyone anything as they hold the publishing on them

It depends ... if DDY is in on the songwriting, they've got to pay him.

[Boomchild]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

That certainly may be the case. However, I was just speaking in terms of Styx not solo projects.

[Boomchild]

That would be an amazing record. The only question I'd have is how much songwriting juice Tommy has left in the tank.

Ash, THIS has been my whole thing about "Hey, Styx, Do NEW music!"

How inspiring would it be to go out and play Blue Collar Man for the 3 billionth time?
The band (ANY BAND) needs to be creating new music to keep themselves inspired, vital, and interested. Bands that go out and do nothing new for years... well, they're cutting their lifespan short. That would be maddening. It's no wonder "High Enough" is back in the set. They've really played all of their major band compositions to death. God, are they even playing the new track live???

I think they have made it clear by their actions that they do not care about being inspired. They want to take the easy route by doing the hits circuit and collecting the check. It seems creating substantial new music is not in their plans.

Don't forget, Tommy and Jack Blades are also writing & recording new music together. Isn't Tommy working on a solo album/cd too? I though he had a few songs done already.

Tommy and Jack are doing another covers CD is what I've heard. I haven't heard anything about new music. I'd LOVE to see Shaw/Blades be Tommy's main focus. "Hallucination" is still one of my all time favorite records. "Influence", while decent, is a covers album. That was a major disappointment after their first one (same for Styx after Cyclo- whatta letdown). I know Tommy was working on some blue grass deal too. That might be interesting too. Other bands make new albums. Them not doing it is a cop out. Cheap Trick makes new records. Heart makes new records (which was number one at Amazon earlier in the week). Styx appears to be afraid or too lazy for this. That's a damned shame. I also think that Dennis should go back in the studio. 100 Years was a decent record that received no promotion in the states, yet did well in Canada. Okay, try again now. Don't just say "I'm done with new music".

Frustrating to be a fan of these guys.

If the ideas are few and far between,I don't see any point for the members of Styx to go to a studio and hope something Styxie will come out of it.
If the ideas are few and far between,that is probably why we only get a song every now and again.

According to comments from members of Styx they have a lot of new songs they have written but haven't recorded. Nice to know but who the fuck cares if you don't record and release them.

[Boomchild]

I have a feeling they'll be released soon, very soon.........

Not if they don't know where they are ... just sayin'

Even if they do, they'd most likely need to get Uni/A&M to release them and I don't think they will for various reasons, let alone the fact that it is a reminder of the past with Dennis and not a future with Gowan.

Think creatively, they could just dub Gowan's vocals over Dennis'.

[Rockwriter]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

[Monker]

If those songs are re-recorded ... then they don't have to pay anyone anything as they hold the publishing on them

It depends ... if DDY is in on the songwriting, they've got to pay him.

If the songs have never been published, will they not need his permission to even release them? Otherwise, as long as Dennis gets paid his royalties, there is not much he can do to stop them from being released.

[StyxCollector]

If the songs have never been published, will they not need his permission to even release them? Otherwise, as long as Dennis gets paid his royalties, there is not much he can do to stop them from being released.

Yes, mechanical royalities would need to be paid if he's a songwriter. He could never completely stop them from releasing them unless there's a legal agreement saying he has control. If they release anything that has HIS vocal on it as well, he'd need to be compensated beyond mechanical royalties, too. It's not rocket science. The corporation that Styx is has all of that pretty well defined since he was a full fledged memeber at the time of its recording, so they'd be bound by whetever agreements they have in place for material of that period.

[Bearded Clam]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

yeah but... he was one of the best things to ever happen to this band in z long time. Seriously, he brought a whole new level to the concerts and recordings. Styx should have paid him twice what they were paying him.

[Keiferb]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

Wow....I don't think I had ever heard that. Why in the world would he have stayed with something so long if he was as unhappy as you claim. I mean, he had 2 tours of duty, and contributed songs to 2 studio albums. Seems strange for not liking Styx or their music. I guess there was a living to be made, but that just seems odd.

[stmonkeys]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Why keep a mediocre member of the band happy? He could've turned them down in '99. To quote froy "bad career move".

Mediocre? He's a METRIC FUCKTON more talented than James Young could ever hope to be in a BILLION years. He's an equally good guitar player and 50000000000 times the song writer.

Styx is not a creative entity. They're a cash cow now. You may like it, he likely did not. Sometimes there is something to be said for Artistic Integrity.

Hell... I'll take Glen any day of the week, any month of the year over anyone in Styx.

can i get an amen?

[stmonkeys]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

Wow....I don't think I had ever heard that. Why in the world would he have stayed with something so long if he was as unhappy as you claim. I mean, he had 2 tours of duty, and contributed songs to 2 studio albums. Seems strange for not liking Styx or their music. I guess there was a living to be made, but that just seems odd.

the timing was right. he needed the gig. the first time, he owed his record company (a&m i think...) due to bad management, and the styx gig got him out of a huge hole. not sure about his second tour of duty, but the exposure was good for him. he's now touring with the orchestra (former ELO members) as well as doing his beatles shows. i think he's much happier now even though he's not playing in front of the large crowds he used to. which is a bummer, because i havent seen a show since '07. oh well...

[Boomchild]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

So then the question is why did he join Styx in the first place? He doesn't seem to be one of those artists that takes anything that is offered to him. Was is it just for the money then?

[Rockwriter]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

Wow....I don't think I had ever heard that. Why in the world would he have stayed with something so long if he was as unhappy as you claim. I mean, he had 2 tours of duty, and contributed songs to 2 studio albums. Seems strange for not liking Styx or their music. I guess there was a living to be made, but that just seems odd.

It's not remotely odd in that business. It's a business, not pure art. Glen would never, ever have taken the EOTC-era job offer but for the fact that he had been dropped from A&M and prevented from seeking a deal elsewhere. His back was to the wall, they made the offer, and he took it as a way to move forward and try to earn a living for his wife and kids. Simple as that. Anyone who's not an idiot would have done the same thing in that position.

The second time around, well, he really didn't have anything too pressing going on then, either. And he did not know when he agreed to join the second time that it was going to turn into five years of endless touring. They had no way of knowing that at the time. If you go back and read the blogs and interviews from that time, you can see where his enthusiasm starts to wane very clearly. I was not at all surprised when he left. It had been coming for several years.


Sterling

[Rockwriter]

Wait.... "Letting Glen Go"... Did I miss something? I thought Glen left on his own accord?

Correct, but they should've kept him happy.

Glen simply doesn't like Styx. He didn't want to tour anywhere near that much, either. Add to that the fact that his marriage was falling apart, there's nothing that could have kept him. And on top of that, he's better off gone, because he was chronically unhappy in the band and always would have been, no what what happened. He just doesn't like the music. There's no getting around it. It's just the way it is.


Sterling

So then the question is why did he join Styx in the first place? He doesn't seem to be one of those artists that takes anything that is offered to him. Was is it just for the money then?

Yes and no. It was also partly because he was going to have a chance to put songs of his that had already been rejected (by the same company, ironically, A&M Records) out on a major label record with the draw of the name of a formerly superstar group to drive the sales. What professional songwriter in his right mind would pass on that kind of exposure, when the goal of all songwriters is to get their songs heard by the largest number of people possible?

And on top of that, the money allowed him to get out of a serious jam, which is no bad thing, either.


Sterling