Styx at the Beacon in NYC 10/28/10

[brywool]

And, none of your examples are "Babe"....or even close to as much of a syrupy ballad song.

That has nothing to do with the price of fish. Dennis wrote "Rockin' the Paradise" and co-wrote songs like "Born for Adventure", too. So what? The bottom line is that it seems like two of the three writers in Styx had a softer spot. "Babe" was at least commercially viable as a song to be a hit; "Boat on the River" didn't here in the uSA. At the end of the day, the band is about making themselves and the record company money. Or perhaps people forget that. Artistic integrity is a crock of crap. Had Styx continued on the GI/Po8 path, they would have died a quick death soon thereafter. Much like Journey changed after their first three albums to remain commercially viable. "Open Arms" is about as syrupy as it gets - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than "Babe", but you don't see folks over in the Journey camp say it ruined them much.

John Lennon wrote "Imagine". Is he a pussy because of it?

Ballads are not the devil.

It's such a fucking ridiculous argument.

The only band who you could even argue these days kept their integrity all along was Rush. They synthesized new influences and made them ytheir own. The record company wanted hits, they delivered 2112 because it may have been their last hurrah. Bands like Journey and Styx did what they needed to do. Even Mr. Schon realizes not playing "Open Arms" live is a stupid idea even if he hates it.

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

And yeah, Jy REALLY needs to get a vocal coach. He seems to be falling down vocally on this tour.

[pinkfloyd1973]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

[brywool]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

If it was ALL of them, none of them would be working together.

[Everett]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

[Babyblue]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

[gr8dane]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

[Babyblue]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

[froy]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

It's the same 3 idiots that's all they have 1 goof from Canada 1 kid from Milwaukee and a chick who dreams about Gowans ass.
Not much there

[gr8dane]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

[Everett]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Turnabout is fair play my friend

[Everett]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

[pinkfloyd1973]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

but the funny thing is, there was no slam here on Styx. Just an observation on a incorrect theory about Dennis ruining Styx with his Broadway and ballads...because if that were true, what the hell do you call "Yes I Can" ?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

When did I say anything RECENTLY? I just rip on 3 people here and it doesn't have anything to do with the current Styx, it has to do with them being tools/idiots.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

Damn right, if it wasn't for him AND the other members, there would be no Styx!

[StyxCollector]

Another thread gone to hell.

[pinkfloyd1973]

Another thread gone to hell.

What did you expect?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Another thread gone to hell.

No kidding, sorry I fed the trolls (tools, idiots, etc) I was excited to read about your review of the show too.

[Boomchild]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

You got that right. Funny how some here think that JY and TS did not have egos of their own and that had a hand in it as well. They were all just hopeless little victims of DDY with no say in anything. BULLSHIT!, BULLSHIT!, BULLSHIT!.

[Boomchild]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Yet more BULLSHIT! Just because Dennis wanted to do a Rock Opera or Rock Musical, doesn't mean he wanted to take Styx to Broadway. He has even said that after Kilroy he expected Styx to return to doing regular rock projects. With that theory then The Who, Pink Floyd were going Broadway as well.

[yogi]

Come on StyxCollector how about a proper review of the show!!!

P.S. I slam Styx & their members as much as I slam Dennis & Froy & EVERYONE. It's all in good fun and that is why most of us come here.


P.S.S. - Please give us a real review of the concert!!!

[Archetype]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

They just aren't as talented as Dennis. He could do it all; broadway, rock, ballads, etc.

Plus, he never tried to put Styx on broadway. The "rocker" Styx myth has to go. Tommy's very sappy at times (Yes I Can, Difference In The World, Dear John, etc. )

[kansas666]

And to think that I just read through 2 pages of this crap looking for a review of the show.

[Toph]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

but the funny thing is, there was no slam here on Styx. Just an observation on a incorrect theory about Dennis ruining Styx with his Broadway and ballads...because if that were true, what the hell do you call "Yes I Can" ?

A song gayer than anything DDY has ever put out....

[pinkfloyd1973]

And to think that I just read through 2 pages of this crap looking for a review of the show.

keep reading

[bugsymalone]

And to think that I just read through 2 pages of this crap looking for a review of the show.

keep reading

Or not. Even legit threads deteriorate pretty quickly around here these days.

Bugsy

[Everett]

And to think that I just read through 2 pages of this crap looking for a review of the show.

keep reading

I'm sure alan will put one up soon. One can only take so much of yogi (no offense )

[Everett]

but the funny thing is, there was no slam here on Styx. Just an observation on a incorrect theory about Dennis ruining Styx with his Broadway and ballads...because if that were true, what the hell do you call "Yes I Can" ?

A song gayer than anything DDY has ever put out....

High time must not ring a bell

[gr8dane]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

Kinda funny.
You make fun of Dennis and you are a troll.
You make fun of JY,Tommy or Gowan and you are a hero.
No shortage of hypocrites.

[Everett]

Ballads are not the devil. However, when a writer decides that that's pretty much all he's going to do from that point on, then he's in the wrong band. I don't think that "the ballads" got Dennis kicked out of the band. I think it had more to do with Dennis' personality and its being in direct opposition to the rest of the band. It's not just ballads vs. rockers, it was a lot more than that yet we kind of black and white it.

OH for the love of God! Dennis is NOT the sole reason for everything, it was all the egos of the band

True but it doesn't help when you have 4 other guys that want to go out there and play and one that want's to put um on broadway

True!!!!!!

Absolutely.Dennis has a Broadway cd that could be obtained when buying Purina or some equal shit.
No wonder a lot of dogs that year had digestive problems.

Same old slams on DDY, different day. It never ends.

Well Suite.I love you dearly.
But funnily, you always manage to have a fine time and high-fiving when somebody is having a slap at Styx(new),but if I or somebody else says something about
sugarnuts Dennis,then it's same old slams and it never ends.

Couldn't agree more. God forbid we make a negative comment about dennis

Kinda funny.
You make fun of Dennis and you are a troll.
You make fun of JY,Tommy or Gowan and you are a hero.
No shortage of hypocrites.

You also get accused of having multiple accounts