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Postby styxfanNH » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:44 am

http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby Babyblue » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:36 pm

styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

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Thanks! I am thinking about getting this one. :D :wink:
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby Toph » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:38 pm

[quote="styxfanNH"]http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

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This is just wrong... Right fellow metal heads? Styx is all about hard rock and heavy metal. Why would one of its members be putting out this pussy music? :roll:
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Postby Bearded Clam » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:45 pm

The second song sounds pretty good, I don't really care for the style of the other two.
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Postby Roboto750 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:56 am

I think these sound pretty good so far. Watch Tommy become the next Darious Rucker! :lol:
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Postby masque » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:57 am

man I cant wait for this!!!!!!
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:59 am

Roboto750 wrote:I think these sound pretty good so far. Watch Tommy become the next Darious Rucker! :lol:



It looks like he's going that route. I saw Darius last year (after a hockey game) and he was very good, I was impressed.

I'm surprised that it took Tommy this long to do this.
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby Everett » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:08 am

Toph wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


This is just wrong... Right fellow metal heads? Styx is all about hard rock and heavy metal. Why would one of its members be putting out this pussy music? :roll:


You really enjoy making an ass out of yourself all the time don't you. I know i know glen should've kicked my ass blah blah blah :roll:
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby brywool » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:38 am

Toph wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


This is just wrong... Right fellow metal heads? Styx is all about hard rock and heavy metal. Why would one of its members be putting out this pussy music? :roll:



Well yeah, and Desert Moon and The Hunchback was Dennis' answer to "Master of Puppets"?

Tommy has ALWAYS leaned toward a country vibe. The dude's from ALABAMA for cryin out loud. There's gonna be a bit of that in there. Personally, the stuff I've heard doesn't grab me. But I can respect the playing and musicianship, it's just not my thing. Maybe I'll hear more that I like. Just like Dennis, Tommy can do whatever he wants out of the scope of Styx. God knows that Styx can't seem to get of their asses and do anything new, so at least Tommy's doing something different.

Oh wait, I forgot- It's MY fault that the band isn't doing anything new because I have an iPod...
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Postby Hollywood » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:50 am

brywool wrote:
Toph wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


This is just wrong... Right fellow metal heads? Styx is all about hard rock and heavy metal. Why would one of its members be putting out this pussy music? :roll:



Well yeah, and Desert Moon and The Hunchback was Dennis' answer to "Master of Puppets"?

Tommy has ALWAYS leaned toward a country vibe. The dude's from ALABAMA for cryin out loud. There's gonna be a bit of that in there. Personally, the stuff I've heard doesn't grab me. But I can respect the playing and musicianship, it's just not my thing. Maybe I'll hear more that I like. Just like Dennis, Tommy can do whatever he wants out of the scope of Styx. God knows that Styx can't seem to get of their asses and do anything new, so at least Tommy's doing something different.

Oh wait, I forgot- It's MY fault that the band isn't doing anything new because I have an iPod...


Why would having an Ipod have anything to do with why they no longer make new music>? The reason they do not release new music is that it is not as profitable as touring because they do not move the units they used to. The reason they do not sell as much has to do with the fan base that has shrunk since the 80s and illegal downloading which has hurt every artist.
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Postby Abitaman » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:48 am

All 3 songs on the web site sound pretty good. First is my favorite
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby Babyblue » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:58 am

styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


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Postby cittadeeno23 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:09 pm

Not my style of music, but Tommy's voice sounds great as usual. It's amazing how both he and Dennis have held up their voices all these years. They both sound virtually exactly like they did in the 70's.
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby froy » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:32 pm

styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

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Shaw looks destroyed in his Promo shots . Burned to a crisp all for nothing 11 wasted years.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:56 pm

styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


Interesting. Styx as group says that they don't release new music because it's not cost effective, yet one of it's members seems to find a way to do it for himself. Seems like Styx' answer to why they are not producing new music (i.e. a whole album) is just just an excuse for another reason.
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Postby froy » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:23 am

Boomchild wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


Interesting. Styx as group says that they don't release new music because it's not cost effective, yet one of it's members seems to find a way to do it for himself. Seems like Styx' answer to why they are not producing new music (i.e. a whole album) is just just an excuse for another reason.


The band has never been honest they just spin everything in there favor. On the front page they say they are doing shows with Foreigner and Journey fact is they are the opening act, Just another example of Styxaganda
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Postby masque » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:12 am

so what's worse......styxaganda or froyaganda????????
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Postby Babyblue » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:26 am

masque wrote:so what's worse......styxaganda or froyaganda????????




Froyaganda :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's Bluegrass Album site

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:42 pm

froy wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


Interesting. Styx as group says that they don't release new music because it's not cost effective, yet one of it's members seems to find a way to do it for himself. Seems like Styx' answer to why they are not producing new music (i.e. a whole album) is just just an excuse for another reason.


The band has never been honest they just spin everything in there favor. On the front page they say they are doing shows with Foreigner and Journey fact is they are the opening act, Just another example of Styxaganda


That's because JY thinks Styx' relevance in the classic rock circuit is bigger then it actually is.
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Postby masque » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:23 am

Boomchild wrote:
froy wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:http://thegreatdividemusic.com/

The Great Divide - Tommy Shaw's site

3 Songs. At the end of each song click the arrow on the right to go to the next song


Interesting. Styx as group says that they don't release new music because it's not cost effective, yet one of it's members seems to find a way to do it for himself. Seems like Styx' answer to why they are not producing new music (i.e. a whole album) is just just an excuse for another reason.


The band has never been honest they just spin everything in there favor. On the front page they say they are doing shows with Foreigner and Journey fact is they are the opening act, Just another example of Styxaganda


That's because JY thinks Styx' relevance in the classic rock circuit is bigger then it actually is.


you know that's one statement out of all the bullshit that is spewed on this message board that I actually 100% agree with. it's also the very reason I am surprised that folks on here complain about them opening for journey or foreigner or both....or they do a co-headlining tour with foreigner in the states. their popularity is what it is.....while I think if dennis came back it would help for sure and maybe put them back of ahead of foreigner at least in the states they would still be behind journey and maybe a few others....most of these band's places in history are set for life....their is not much they can do to help it or hurt it at this point.

let's face it.....the new foreigner is a kick ass band...awesome band....but other than mick jones they do not have one classic member of the band with them.....but their place on the touring circuit is determined by the fact that a) they have a good band capable of pulling off the "foreigner" sound and b) by where they stand historically. same for styx.

dennis with styx would not make styx suddenly more popular than "fake journey"....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off. the pecking order for today was mostly established from 1975 thru 1985.....not withstanding some surges do to movies and the soprano's.
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Postby yogi » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:04 am

Here is a fact that few people know: In their 37 year history AC/DC has had over 26 members, and only 2 are orginal group members.
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Postby masque » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:01 am

yogi wrote:Here is a fact that few people know: In their 37 year history AC/DC has had over 26 members, and only 2 are orginal group members.


bingo......99% of all groups that makes it past an album or two are gonna have several member changes either due to death, burnout, disagreements, ego's etc....etc.....etc....

there are exceptions to this but very few. that's why at the end of the day I can still enjoy seeing, styx, journey and foreigner live because the band that is standing up there is capable of putting on a good show and doing the original songs justice in most cases.....if they couldnt I would no longer buy tickets.
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Postby brywool » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:02 am

masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!
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Postby froy » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:04 am

yogi wrote:Here is a fact that few people know: In their 37 year history AC/DC has had over 26 members, and only 2 are orginal group members.


Here is another fact Your insane.
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Postby masque » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:12 am

brywool wrote:
masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!


you know in fact.....he is so good that there are times you have to sort of pause for a second to make sure it's him and not steve perry!!!! considering how great Perry was to find a clone that capable is amazing.

the same thing could be said about kelly hansen singing for foreigner....he is about as close to being a true lou gramm clone as you will hear.....he does not back down from ANY of the notes Lou hit on the original albums when they perform live and I have seen them with kelly three times now and it has always been fantastic.
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Postby froy » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:00 am

masque wrote:
brywool wrote:
masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!


you know in fact.....he is so good that there are times you have to sort of pause for a second to make sure it's him and not steve perry!!!! considering how great Perry was to find a clone that capable is amazing.

the same thing could be said about kelly hansen singing for foreigner....he is about as close to being a true lou gramm clone as you will hear.....he does not back down from ANY of the notes Lou hit on the original albums when they perform live and I have seen them with kelly three times now and it has always been fantastic.


Bottom line all 3 are cover bands. If you were not around for the original enjoy and pretend all you want.
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Postby masque » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:25 am

froy wrote:
masque wrote:
brywool wrote:
masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!


you know in fact.....he is so good that there are times you have to sort of pause for a second to make sure it's him and not steve perry!!!! considering how great Perry was to find a clone that capable is amazing.

the same thing could be said about kelly hansen singing for foreigner....he is about as close to being a true lou gramm clone as you will hear.....he does not back down from ANY of the notes Lou hit on the original albums when they perform live and I have seen them with kelly three times now and it has always been fantastic.


Bottom line all 3 are cover bands. If you were not around for the original enjoy and pretend all you want.


froy you are right...for the most part they are "cover" bands.....but all three of them still have original elements or elements from their heyday. I was born in 1970 and I have a brother that is nine years older than me so I remember all of those original albums coming into the house and I grew up on that music....however, I was really too young to see these bands live back in the day.

i saw the styx reunion tour in 1996 and 1997 several times and that was ultra cool for me to say the least. nowadays I can go enjoy these bands because I love these songs....i'm not pretending about anything...i know more about the histories of these bands than alot of folks as far as who wrote the songs, how it was recored etc...... but that does not stop me from enjoying seeing the current version of the "cover" bands out touring now....i prefer the original but will take what I can get.
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Postby froy » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:01 am

masque wrote:
froy wrote:
masque wrote:
brywool wrote:
masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!


you know in fact.....he is so good that there are times you have to sort of pause for a second to make sure it's him and not steve perry!!!! considering how great Perry was to find a clone that capable is amazing.

the same thing could be said about kelly hansen singing for foreigner....he is about as close to being a true lou gramm clone as you will hear.....he does not back down from ANY of the notes Lou hit on the original albums when they perform live and I have seen them with kelly three times now and it has always been fantastic.


Bottom line all 3 are cover bands. If you were not around for the original enjoy and pretend all you want.


froy you are right...for the most part they are "cover" bands.....but all three of them still have original elements or elements from their heyday. I was born in 1970 and I have a brother that is nine years older than me so I remember all of those original albums coming into the house and I grew up on that music....however, I was really too young to see these bands live back in the day.

i saw the styx reunion tour in 1996 and 1997 several times and that was ultra cool for me to say the least. nowadays I can go enjoy these bands because I love these songs....i'm not pretending about anything...i know more about the histories of these bands than alot of folks as far as who wrote the songs, how it was recored etc...... but that does not stop me from enjoying seeing the current version of the "cover" bands out touring now....i prefer the original but will take what I can get.


I have 9 years on ya. I saw all these bands in there classic lineups so many times, That's why I can't pretend , If you never saw Perry Boy did you miss something, You saw Dennis with Styx and that was killer in 96 97 ,
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Postby masque » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:21 am

froy wrote:
masque wrote:
froy wrote:
masque wrote:
brywool wrote:
masque wrote:....and trust me I love "fake journey" the phillipino can sing his ass off.


Damn Straight!


you know in fact.....he is so good that there are times you have to sort of pause for a second to make sure it's him and not steve perry!!!! considering how great Perry was to find a clone that capable is amazing.

the same thing could be said about kelly hansen singing for foreigner....he is about as close to being a true lou gramm clone as you will hear.....he does not back down from ANY of the notes Lou hit on the original albums when they perform live and I have seen them with kelly three times now and it has always been fantastic.


Bottom line all 3 are cover bands. If you were not around for the original enjoy and pretend all you want.


froy you are right...for the most part they are "cover" bands.....but all three of them still have original elements or elements from their heyday. I was born in 1970 and I have a brother that is nine years older than me so I remember all of those original albums coming into the house and I grew up on that music....however, I was really too young to see these bands live back in the day.

i saw the styx reunion tour in 1996 and 1997 several times and that was ultra cool for me to say the least. nowadays I can go enjoy these bands because I love these songs....i'm not pretending about anything...i know more about the histories of these bands than alot of folks as far as who wrote the songs, how it was recored etc...... but that does not stop me from enjoying seeing the current version of the "cover" bands out touring now....i prefer the original but will take what I can get.


I have 9 years on ya. I saw all these bands in there classic lineups so many times, That's why I can't pretend , If you never saw Perry Boy did you miss something, You saw Dennis with Styx and that was killer in 96 97 ,


that's cool....you and my brother are the same age....froy he is just like you in many ways....he is a lifelong diehard styx fan but he just cant accept what he calls "the tommy shaw band"......he admits that gowan is incredible as a keyboard player but cannot stand him as a singer at all....he has seen "the tommy shaw band" several times over the years but in recent years has finally given up and the whole gowan thing is just more than he can bare now. he too, had the awesome opportunity to see them live on the original pieces of eight, cornerstone, paradise theatre and kilroy was here tours. i still have the original main event and paradise theatre tour shirts right now.

i really truly do understand where you guys are coming from on this....i grew up with the original or should i say "heyday"styx in my ears everyday....i truly love that band and that is the band I want to be together....i just have more tolerance than him and you on accepting what they do now. i guess it's also because tommy is literally my favorite music person on the planet and i just cant jump ship on him.

and yes, i would have loved to see freaking steve perry with journey....the live dvd from houston in 1981 in incredible....hard to believe he could bring it like that live!!!
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Postby brywool » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:53 am

I saw both bands in their heyday, many times.

Styx: 77, 78, 80 (2 shows), 81 (two shows), Edge, 96, 97, BNW
Journey: 79, 80, 83, 86, Revelation Tour

With Styx:
They were a great rock band. With Dennis they were great and without him, they still are. It takes nothing away from DeYoung if I patronize and enjoy what NewStyx is. The fact is, I got very burned out on hearing Babe redone so many times (Babe, First Time, Don't Let It End, Show Me the Way, It Takes Love, While there's Still Time, Carry Ann, etc.). Dennis used to write great, and usually, politically motivated rock stuff. I very much missed that when Dennis decided to chase the hit song. Don't get me wrong - the slow tunes are good too, but they became his main focus and that got boring for me. Not a big fan of the Fender Rhoades sound, and he used it on everything after Babe. Now that 100 Years From Now is out, I see some of the old Dennis (thank God). I think he needed a challenge. The worst tracks on his new album are the love songs. The best are those that deal with politically-driven stuff. The guy's super intelligent and to hear him waste that brain on "Don't be afraid of Love..." was insulting. Would I like to see Dennis with Styx again? You Bet. Can I appreciate Gowan? For sure. Is the new version better than the old? It depends... It's not ALL the hits. But that's okay. The only ones that aren't being played are Roboto and Babe. Big deal. Would I go see Dennis? For sure. I love Dennis. Doesn't sound like it, but I do. Dennis is doing what he wants now. Styx is doing what they want. Everybody wins.

With Journey:
Perry was a friggin' idol of mine. For sure. I looked up to the guy's talent forever. However, the fact that he kept the band in limbo for years, then screwed them when he killed the TBF tour, and also kicked out Steve Smith (and valory) really didn't sit well with me. Lemme get this straight- Perry, you kicked out Steve Smith and hired... MICHAEL BAIRED??? Are you an idiot??? Then, Perry also led them down the ballad road with Jon Cain. Okay- so Perry bails and the band replaces him. Augeri's recorded output was good. Not Steve Perry good, but I liked it. Live was another story. Augeri's pitch was terrible and he couldn't handle the touring. I still supported him. JSS? Was never into that as Journey. He's fine on his own. The bootlegs I heard him of him doing Journey stuff were not good at all.
Then, they find Pineda... This guy can friggin sing! He doesn't sound like Perry, but he can nail his songs live BETTER than Perry could at the end of his days with Journey. He sounds close enough to 83 Perry (without the rasp) and I can enjoy it. He's also very cool to the fans and RESPECTS THE GIG. He's ready to do the work while Steve sits and watches baseball. If Perry can't sing anymore, that's fine. But let those who want to work move on. For the most part, he has, but he also was paid a FULL share during Augeri's time with the band (not sure about with Arnel). And I think that's crap. Royalties are one thing, but he's not out there bustin his a$$ and yet collects a full share....?
Wow, what a great guy. If Perry wants to ever sing again, I'll buy it. But Arnel is a hungry dude and he's got a great voice. I've only noticed the accent once really and that was the superbowl thing, which wasn't a good performance from him. I saw him after that live (in the front row- THANKS ST. JOHN!!) and he ABSOLUTELY kicked a$$.

I can still enjoy both bands. It's not "The real deal" but it's close enough.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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