Many of you are upset with the animosity around here. Do you realize that if TS and JY don't fire DDY in the way that they did, none of the animosity exists?
Blame your heroes....
Do you realize....
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by Toph » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:35 am
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by Michigan Girl » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:48 am
Does anyone realize that this is not even one of the greatest RNR feuds of all time?!? ...neither is Journey, WTH?!?!
We've been wasting our time ... :wink:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/photos/53622/235943/0
The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time
1. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards' long-dormant feud flared up with the publication of Keith's memoir, Life, in October, in which he mocked Jagger's "tiny dodger" and made many other shocking swipes. The Glimmer Twins will probably make peace in time for their next world tour, but rock history is filled with bands whose members just couldn't keep the peace. Here's a look at 10 more of them.
2. Simon & Garfunkel: Paul and Art Take Their Feud Public
Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel's rocky relationship hit a low point in the mid 1980's when Simon erased Garfunkel's vocals from a planned reunion disc and released it as a solo set. Art took the high road at their induction ceremony into the Hall of Fame in 1990. "I want to thank most of all the person who has most enriched my life by putting these great songs through me," he said. "My friend Paul here." With a smirk on his face, Paul walked up to the podium. "Arthur and I agree about almost nothing," he said. "But it's true, I have enriched his life quite a bit, now that I think about it." Eleven years later Paul was inducted as a solo artist. "I want to thank Art Garfunkel and say that I regret the ending of our friendship, and I hope that some day before we die we will make peace with each other," he said, then added, pausing for comedic effect, "No rush." In 2003 they hit the road for the highly lucrative Old Friends reunion tour. The duo had an American tour booked for the summer of 2010, but they had to yank it when Garfunkel was diagnosed with vocal chord paresis. He recently told Rolling Stone that he hopes to reschedule it for next summer.
3. Aerosmith: The 'American Idol' Meltdown
Over their 40-year career, the members of Aerosmith have variously survived heroin addiction, cancer, horrific onstage accidents (Steven falling off the stage and breaking his shoulder last year being the most memorable) and the (temporary) defection of guitarists Joe Perry and Brad Whitford. American Idol, however, might be their downfall. "It's a reality show designed to get people to watch that station and sell advertising," Perry recently told a Calgary newspaper, adding that band first heard that frontman Steven Tyler was going to be a judge through the media. "It's one step above Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'll tell you one thing, when we put this band together, this is not something that he would do. It's his business, but I don't want Aerosmith's name involved with it. We have nothing to do with it." Aerosmith wrapped a tumultuous tour in September; the group has said it's contemplating hiring a new singer.
4. The Who: Roger and Pete Battle It Out In The Press
In 1975 Pete Townshend vented his frustrations with the Who to the NME: "We've become a golden oldies group," he said. "I can tell you that when we were gigging in this country at the early part of this year I was thoroughly depressed. I honestly feel that the Who were going on stage every night and copying what the Who used to be." Frontman Roger Daltrey blasted back a few months later. "It really took a lot of my Who energy out after reading that," he said. "Pete's talked himself up his own ass. There are quite a lot of disillusioned fans and disenchanted kids right about now. The Who weren't bad on that tour, but I think we've done some gigs where Townshend was bad." The two patched things up for an album and tour later that year.
5. The Kinks: Fifty Years Of Brotherly Hate
Ray and Dave Davies have been blasting each other in the press ever since they formed the Kinks in the early sixties, but in recent years their conflict has gotten especiallly nasty. "Ray's an asshole," Dave recently told the Daily Mail . "You've heard of vampires, well, Ray sucks me dry of ideas, emotions and creativity. It's toxic for me to be with him. He's a control freak." The brothers haven't performed together since 1996, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.
6 The Beatles: John and Paul Feud Through Song
When the Beatles split in 1970, John Lennon and Paul McCartney began feuding in the press, but they saved the harshest words their for songs. "The freaks was right when they said you was dead," Lennon sang on 1971's "How Do You Sleep." "The only thing you did was 'Yesterday' ... The sound you make is Muzak to my ears. How do you sleep?" George Harrison played guitar on the track, so it was clear what side he was taking. Lennon and McCartney reconciled in later years, even recording together in a coke-fueled, infamously disastrous session in 1974 — but they remained distant up until Lennon's death in 1980.
7. Pink Floyd: Dave Steals Roger's Pig
In 1987 Roger Waters toured separately from the rest of Pink Floyd, while the group went to court over the rights to the band's name. "If one of us was going to be called Pink Floyd, it's me," Waters told Rolling Stone at the time. "That's my pig [on their stage]. That's my plane crashing," he said, referring to the props for the Wall tour. He also took pot shots at Floyd's 1988 album A Momentary Lapse of Reason. "[David] Gilmour's lyrics are very third-rate," he said. "They'll never be as good as mine." Gilmour felt he had every right to continue without Waters — something a judge later agreed on. "I am an extremely stubborn person," Gilmour told Rolling Stone. "I will not be forced out of something I consider to be partly mine." In 2005 Waters and Gilmour finally made peace and performed a four-song set at Live 8.
8. The Everly Brothers: Rock's First Sibling Rivalry
Don and Phil Everly are the original feuding brothers of rock and roll. Tensions reached a boiling point in the summer of 1973 at a gig in Buena Park, California. Phil Everly threw his guitar down and stormed off the stage during a performance of "Cathy's Clown," leaving Don to tell the stunned audience the group was finished (they reformed 10 years later). But unlike many rock stars, they've largely abstained from bashing each other in the press. In 2003, Paul Simon, who counts the Everlys as his biggest influence, talked them into touring with Simon & Garfunkel. "It was hilarious that the four of us were doing this tour, given our collective histories of squabbling," Simon told Rolling Stone. "Don and Phil hadn't seen each other in about three years. They met in the parking lot before the first gig." When the tour ended, the brothers went their separate ways and haven't performed together since.
9. Oasis: Liam Finally Pushes Noel Too Far
It's unclear exactly happened backstage at the Rock en Seine festival in Paris in August 2009, but nobody disputes that Noel and Liam Gallagher had such a horrific fight that they refused to take the stage. Some reports suggested that Liam smashed one of Noel's guitars in the midst of a vicious brawl, but neither side has ever confirmed that. Fans wrote it off as yet another fight — until Noel posted a note on the band's web site later in the week. "I have been forced to leave the Manchester rock 'n' roll pop group Oasis," he wrote. "I feel you have the right to know that the level of verbal and violent intimidation towards me, my family, friends and comrades has become intolerable." Over a year later there's no sign they plan on patching things up, and Liam just released his first solo track.
10. Guns N' Roses: Axl Calls Slash a 'Cancer'
Axl Rose hasn't had any kind words for Slash since the original Guns N' Roses line-up dissolved in the mid Nineties, but he was harsher than ever before in a 2009 interview with longtime friend Del James. "Personally I consider Slash a cancer and better removed, avoided — and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters, the better," he said. Slash didn't appreciate the remark. "I lost my mom to cancer," he said. "That was a little bit of hard rhetoric at that particular time, but it's typical Axl stuff."
11. Van Halen: Van Halen's One-Night Reunion Goes Bad
In 1996, Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth attempted to see if they could tolerate being together for just one night when they made a surprise appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards. Turns out they couldn't. Problems arose when Eddie Van Halen told the press that he couldn’t tour
before he had hip replacement surgery. "Tonight's about me, man," Roth said. "Not your fucking hip!" Van Halen's response: "If I ever see you again you better be wearing a cup, pal!" Eleven years later Dave and Ed finally made peace and launched a reunion tour, but by that point they'd manage to drive original bassist Michael Anthony out of the band.
We've been wasting our time ... :wink:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/photos/53622/235943/0
The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time
1. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards' long-dormant feud flared up with the publication of Keith's memoir, Life, in October, in which he mocked Jagger's "tiny dodger" and made many other shocking swipes. The Glimmer Twins will probably make peace in time for their next world tour, but rock history is filled with bands whose members just couldn't keep the peace. Here's a look at 10 more of them.
2. Simon & Garfunkel: Paul and Art Take Their Feud Public
Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel's rocky relationship hit a low point in the mid 1980's when Simon erased Garfunkel's vocals from a planned reunion disc and released it as a solo set. Art took the high road at their induction ceremony into the Hall of Fame in 1990. "I want to thank most of all the person who has most enriched my life by putting these great songs through me," he said. "My friend Paul here." With a smirk on his face, Paul walked up to the podium. "Arthur and I agree about almost nothing," he said. "But it's true, I have enriched his life quite a bit, now that I think about it." Eleven years later Paul was inducted as a solo artist. "I want to thank Art Garfunkel and say that I regret the ending of our friendship, and I hope that some day before we die we will make peace with each other," he said, then added, pausing for comedic effect, "No rush." In 2003 they hit the road for the highly lucrative Old Friends reunion tour. The duo had an American tour booked for the summer of 2010, but they had to yank it when Garfunkel was diagnosed with vocal chord paresis. He recently told Rolling Stone that he hopes to reschedule it for next summer.
3. Aerosmith: The 'American Idol' Meltdown
Over their 40-year career, the members of Aerosmith have variously survived heroin addiction, cancer, horrific onstage accidents (Steven falling off the stage and breaking his shoulder last year being the most memorable) and the (temporary) defection of guitarists Joe Perry and Brad Whitford. American Idol, however, might be their downfall. "It's a reality show designed to get people to watch that station and sell advertising," Perry recently told a Calgary newspaper, adding that band first heard that frontman Steven Tyler was going to be a judge through the media. "It's one step above Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'll tell you one thing, when we put this band together, this is not something that he would do. It's his business, but I don't want Aerosmith's name involved with it. We have nothing to do with it." Aerosmith wrapped a tumultuous tour in September; the group has said it's contemplating hiring a new singer.
4. The Who: Roger and Pete Battle It Out In The Press
In 1975 Pete Townshend vented his frustrations with the Who to the NME: "We've become a golden oldies group," he said. "I can tell you that when we were gigging in this country at the early part of this year I was thoroughly depressed. I honestly feel that the Who were going on stage every night and copying what the Who used to be." Frontman Roger Daltrey blasted back a few months later. "It really took a lot of my Who energy out after reading that," he said. "Pete's talked himself up his own ass. There are quite a lot of disillusioned fans and disenchanted kids right about now. The Who weren't bad on that tour, but I think we've done some gigs where Townshend was bad." The two patched things up for an album and tour later that year.
5. The Kinks: Fifty Years Of Brotherly Hate
Ray and Dave Davies have been blasting each other in the press ever since they formed the Kinks in the early sixties, but in recent years their conflict has gotten especiallly nasty. "Ray's an asshole," Dave recently told the Daily Mail . "You've heard of vampires, well, Ray sucks me dry of ideas, emotions and creativity. It's toxic for me to be with him. He's a control freak." The brothers haven't performed together since 1996, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.
6 The Beatles: John and Paul Feud Through Song
When the Beatles split in 1970, John Lennon and Paul McCartney began feuding in the press, but they saved the harshest words their for songs. "The freaks was right when they said you was dead," Lennon sang on 1971's "How Do You Sleep." "The only thing you did was 'Yesterday' ... The sound you make is Muzak to my ears. How do you sleep?" George Harrison played guitar on the track, so it was clear what side he was taking. Lennon and McCartney reconciled in later years, even recording together in a coke-fueled, infamously disastrous session in 1974 — but they remained distant up until Lennon's death in 1980.
7. Pink Floyd: Dave Steals Roger's Pig
In 1987 Roger Waters toured separately from the rest of Pink Floyd, while the group went to court over the rights to the band's name. "If one of us was going to be called Pink Floyd, it's me," Waters told Rolling Stone at the time. "That's my pig [on their stage]. That's my plane crashing," he said, referring to the props for the Wall tour. He also took pot shots at Floyd's 1988 album A Momentary Lapse of Reason. "[David] Gilmour's lyrics are very third-rate," he said. "They'll never be as good as mine." Gilmour felt he had every right to continue without Waters — something a judge later agreed on. "I am an extremely stubborn person," Gilmour told Rolling Stone. "I will not be forced out of something I consider to be partly mine." In 2005 Waters and Gilmour finally made peace and performed a four-song set at Live 8.
8. The Everly Brothers: Rock's First Sibling Rivalry
Don and Phil Everly are the original feuding brothers of rock and roll. Tensions reached a boiling point in the summer of 1973 at a gig in Buena Park, California. Phil Everly threw his guitar down and stormed off the stage during a performance of "Cathy's Clown," leaving Don to tell the stunned audience the group was finished (they reformed 10 years later). But unlike many rock stars, they've largely abstained from bashing each other in the press. In 2003, Paul Simon, who counts the Everlys as his biggest influence, talked them into touring with Simon & Garfunkel. "It was hilarious that the four of us were doing this tour, given our collective histories of squabbling," Simon told Rolling Stone. "Don and Phil hadn't seen each other in about three years. They met in the parking lot before the first gig." When the tour ended, the brothers went their separate ways and haven't performed together since.
9. Oasis: Liam Finally Pushes Noel Too Far
It's unclear exactly happened backstage at the Rock en Seine festival in Paris in August 2009, but nobody disputes that Noel and Liam Gallagher had such a horrific fight that they refused to take the stage. Some reports suggested that Liam smashed one of Noel's guitars in the midst of a vicious brawl, but neither side has ever confirmed that. Fans wrote it off as yet another fight — until Noel posted a note on the band's web site later in the week. "I have been forced to leave the Manchester rock 'n' roll pop group Oasis," he wrote. "I feel you have the right to know that the level of verbal and violent intimidation towards me, my family, friends and comrades has become intolerable." Over a year later there's no sign they plan on patching things up, and Liam just released his first solo track.
10. Guns N' Roses: Axl Calls Slash a 'Cancer'
Axl Rose hasn't had any kind words for Slash since the original Guns N' Roses line-up dissolved in the mid Nineties, but he was harsher than ever before in a 2009 interview with longtime friend Del James. "Personally I consider Slash a cancer and better removed, avoided — and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters, the better," he said. Slash didn't appreciate the remark. "I lost my mom to cancer," he said. "That was a little bit of hard rhetoric at that particular time, but it's typical Axl stuff."
11. Van Halen: Van Halen's One-Night Reunion Goes Bad
In 1996, Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth attempted to see if they could tolerate being together for just one night when they made a surprise appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards. Turns out they couldn't. Problems arose when Eddie Van Halen told the press that he couldn’t tour
before he had hip replacement surgery. "Tonight's about me, man," Roth said. "Not your fucking hip!" Van Halen's response: "If I ever see you again you better be wearing a cup, pal!" Eleven years later Dave and Ed finally made peace and launched a reunion tour, but by that point they'd manage to drive original bassist Michael Anthony out of the band.
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by brywool » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:08 am
Toph wrote:brywool wrote:Do you realize Toph, that 90% of your posts are just to start sh*t?
Kind of like yours, Mr. Saint...
I don't agree with that but okay.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Re: Do you realize....
by froy » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:16 am
Toph wrote:Many of you are upset with the animosity around here. Do you realize that if TS and JY don't fire DDY in the way that they did, none of the animosity exists?
Blame your heroes....
I agree
They fucked everyone
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by Bearded Clam » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:15 am
wow, Paul Simon is a bit of an prick huh? Did he write the music and lyrics for their songs back in the day?
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by Don » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:31 am
Bearded Clam wrote:wow, Paul Simon is a bit of an prick huh? Did he write the music and lyrics for their songs back in the day?
I think Garfunkel may have cowritten 5 songs out of all the band's albums combined. There were probably half a dozen songs from outside writers and about three dozen songs that were attributed to Simon only.
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Re: Do you realize....
by Everett » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:12 am
That your a dumbass? Yeah we all knew that.
Here let me reply for you:
Go fuck yourself everett oh and glen REALLY should've kicked your ass.
Here let me reply for you:
Go fuck yourself everett oh and glen REALLY should've kicked your ass.
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Re: Do you realize....
by Boomchild » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:34 pm
Toph wrote:Many of you are upset with the animosity around here. Do you realize that if TS and JY don't fire DDY in the way that they did, none of the animosity exists?
Blame your heroes....
Not so sure about that. You have some that like DDY and some that don't, same for the other members. So, if DDY were still in the band you would have people complaining about him and how he affects what the band does and doesn't do.
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Re: Do you realize....
by Babyblue » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:07 pm
Boomchild wrote:Toph wrote:Many of you are upset with the animosity around here. Do you realize that if TS and JY don't fire DDY in the way that they did, none of the animosity exists?
Blame your heroes....
Not so sure about that. You have some that like DDY and some that don't, same for the other members. So, if DDY were still in the band you would have people complaining about him and how he affects what the band does and doesn't do.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can not put it all on JY & TS.DDY was in the band as well.
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Keep On Rocking Guys:)
I will never stop believeing in you SP.
Keep On Rocking Guys:)
I will never stop believeing in you SP.
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