Sarah Palin's Alaska

[Rick]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

Here's my 2 sense:

I consider myself a left leaning moderate, I vote either way depending on how the stand on important issues. I like Palin as a person, I just don't like her as a politician. She's too far right for my taste. I kinda feel bad for her because John McCain kinda ruined whatever political ambitions she may have had. The idiots in the tea party movement latching on her like leeches doesn't sit well with me either. That movement scares me a little, I don't see anything good coming from those people.

Do you even know what the Tea Party Movement stands for?

Identify constitutionality of every new law
Reject emissions trading
Demand a balanced federal budget
Simplify the tax system
Audit federal government agencies for constitutionality
Limit annual growth in federal spending
Repeal the healthcare legislation passed on March 23, 2010
Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy
Reduce Earmarks
Reduce Taxes

^^^^^that is what they want. I challenge you to pick the scary part.....

There's a lot of fluff thrown in there, but it's about the bolded part.

[S2M]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

Here's my 2 sense:

I consider myself a left leaning moderate, I vote either way depending on how the stand on important issues. I like Palin as a person, I just don't like her as a politician. She's too far right for my taste. I kinda feel bad for her because John McCain kinda ruined whatever political ambitions she may have had. The idiots in the tea party movement latching on her like leeches doesn't sit well with me either. That movement scares me a little, I don't see anything good coming from those people.[/quote]

Do you even know what the Tea Party Movement stands for?


Demand a balanced federal budget
Reduce Taxes
Reduce Earmarks

^^^^^that is what they want. I challenge you to pick the scary part.....

You can't cut taxes and balance the federal budget at the same time. The last time we had a balanced budget, Clinton had to raise taxes to get it done. And do you really think that they're gonna reduce earmarks. Both sides are equally guilty in that category, earmarks are the only thing keeping these weasels in office. They're not going away.

Don't skirt the issue. You said Scare. All I'm reading are things you don't think can happen, or get done. Where does your fear come from?

[BobbyinTN]

She kills for fun, not for food. She kills for television ratings, not to think herds.

How can you substantiate this? Her father has been a hunter for over 50 years, and she's been going with him since she was a child. As far as I know, everything that they kill they eat. Or sell to be eaten, in the case of fishing.

Man, she's doing it for ratings. She's trying to pull you and others who are pro-hunting into her world to say, "see, I'm just like you", however you're not making millions from TV shows and books.

And the main reason I say she's a killer and not a hunter is killing wolves from helicopters and killing anything in front of a camera.

I'm from a family that hunts, and if I got hungry I know how to also, but guess what, America supplies enough food for all Americans.

I have no respect for her. I tried to like her, but when she got the script and started speaking republicanese and hitting all the talking points, she pissed me off. She sold out to make a buck. Isn't that what all of us hate in this rock-n-roll world, sellouts?

So why do you think it's OK to eat meat that's raised factory style, given antibiotics and hormones and fed corn-which they are not able to digest and also leads to e-coli because it upsets the animal's nautral flora-but you don't think it's OK to kill wild game for food? It's not a matter of "needing" the food, it's about a choice. I'll take elk or deer over beef anyday...much healthier!!

You don't take more than your share. That's what any good responsible hunter will tell you. And there are alternatives to drugged up poultry, beef and pork. And there have been plenty of instances were deer, elk, rabbits and every animal hunted has made people sick.

I'm not knocking hunting and hunters who are responsible. I'm knocking Sarah Palin for doing it for a crappy TV show and ratings. She's not a hunter, she's a wanna-be.

[ebake02]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

Here's my 2 sense:

I consider myself a left leaning moderate, I vote either way depending on how the stand on important issues. I like Palin as a person, I just don't like her as a politician. She's too far right for my taste. I kinda feel bad for her because John McCain kinda ruined whatever political ambitions she may have had. The idiots in the tea party movement latching on her like leeches doesn't sit well with me either. That movement scares me a little, I don't see anything good coming from those people.[/quote]

Do you even know what the Tea Party Movement stands for?


Demand a balanced federal budget
Reduce Taxes
Reduce Earmarks

^^^^^that is what they want. I challenge you to pick the scary part.....

You can't cut taxes and balance the federal budget at the same time. The last time we had a balanced budget, Clinton had to raise taxes to get it done. And do you really think that they're gonna reduce earmarks. Both sides are equally guilty in that category, earmarks are the only thing keeping these weasels in office. They're not going away.

Don't skirt the issue. You said Scare. All I'm reading are things you don't think can happen, or get done. Where does your fear come from?

Radical in any form has never been a good thing. These people are way too radical and closed minded for my taste, it seems that these people are completely closed off to any view that is not their own. I've also noticed a racist undertone in portions of this movement too and that makes me very uncomfortable.

[S2M]

Racism aside, don't you think some of their radical ire could stem from the fact that they are just fed up with the way this country has been run for decades...and they just want shit to get done?

I know the road to hell is paved with good intentions....but you have to start somewhere. No?

[BobbyinTN]

She kills for fun, not for food. She kills for television ratings, not to think herds.

How can you substantiate this? Her father has been a hunter for over 50 years, and she's been going with him since she was a child. As far as I know, everything that they kill they eat. Or sell to be eaten, in the case of fishing.

Man, she's doing it for ratings. She's trying to pull you and others who are pro-hunting into her world to say, "see, I'm just like you", however you're not making millions from TV shows and books.

And the main reason I say she's a killer and not a hunter is killing wolves from helicopters and killing anything in front of a camera.

I'm from a family that hunts, and if I got hungry I know how to also, but guess what, America supplies enough food for all Americans.

I have no respect for her. I tried to like her, but when she got the script and started speaking republicanese and hitting all the talking points, she pissed me off. She sold out to make a buck. Isn't that what all of us hate in this rock-n-roll world, sellouts?

Dumbest thing I've read today. Bobby, you are such a hippocrate! If she were a lesbia... I mean Liberal, you'd be saying "you go girlfriend, kill that bear!". She is a politician who has her own reality-based t.v. show, and shows what it's like to live in Alaska. She grew up hunting and fishing for crying out loud! What do you expect her to do, play bingo? While she's packing a lot of activities into her show that I'm sure she doesn't typically do that often, she's showing people what it's like to live in Alaska.

Are you mad because there isn't a single Liberal with a reality-show? You're mad about the wolves because they're shot from a helicopter? That's how they hunt wolves there! They've been doing that for YEARS to keep their numbers down.

And for you to make the statement "America supplies enough food for all Americans". That's just stupid. for 1, people shouldn't be waiting on the government to provide them food when they have the means to get it themselves. And 2, we as a people are ENTITLED to gun ownership (if we're law-abiding), and the right to provide for our families. But someone on the left would have us lose that right now, wouldn't you?

That's fuckin' crazy talk. Anyone, gay, straight, bi or trans that acted like that idiot Sarah Palin, I'd have a problem with. She doesn't give a fuck about Alaska or she wouldn't have quit her elected job as governor. Stop falling for her bullshit just because she's pretty.

"You go girlfriend"? Is that another example of you not being homophobic? LOL

And killing wolves from a helicopter or from anywhere is cowardice and irresponsible.

Who the fuck said anything about the government supplying food. Go down to the goddamn piggly wiggly and buy your own fuckin' food. It's cheaper than buying a gun, hunting gear, ammo and hides. LMAO!! Stop thinking like a republican Jim and think like a human.

I own a gun, but yes, there are certain people who should never own a gun or go near one and yes there should be laws governing who can own a gun. Give the fuckin' second amendment a rest and think.

Sarah Palin is a fuckin' idiot and anyone that believes her shit needs their god-damned heads examined.

And that lousy, "her father was a hunter" excuse is lame. I'm sure if Hitler had children they could use the same defense for killing Jews and you'd be fine with that.

And as for liberals with TV shows, most every actor, writer, director and stage hand are liberals. So no, I'm not mad at all. I wouldn't watch her show just like I don't watch that fiction that Fox News spews or watch Glenn Beck sit and cry as he's duping every viewer into believing what he claims to believe and collecting millions of dollars while he's doing it.

[BobbyinTN]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

She says what she's told to say. She's a tool.

[Rockindeano]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

She says what she's told to say. She's a tool.

It's real hilarious Rick.. Wait til she is in office. Then we'll see how funny you think it is.

[Jana]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

She says what she's told to say. She's a tool.

It's real hilarious Rick.. Wait til she is in office. Then we'll see how funny you think it is.

Truer words were never spoken, Deano. And he throws the lib card out as our excuse for not liking Palin. I have a lot of Republican friends and relatives who think little of her. I admire a lot of Republicans. I even believe Mitt Romney would be a very good president and love Huckabee as a person and listen to Joe Scarborough daily. So my somewhat liberal views and being a Democrat have nothing to do with my dislike of Palin. I find little about Palin refreshing, just someone who bailed halfway through her first term of governor to ride the money train.

[lights1961]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

She says what she's told to say. She's a tool.

It's real hilarious Rick.. :roll: Wait til she is in office. Then we'll see how funny you think it is.

she is the female version of Teddy Roosevelt... I think I read that somewhere...
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME...

[Jana]

GREAT THREAD... two words that liberals hate.... SARAH and PALIN... love it... and why does she get under everyones skin??? ...because she says whats on her mind... and has that accent and voice, she is not polished like Hillary is...and thats what drives everyone so crazy... she is just an average american, educated in a state college... not harvard... is real not fake...and lives life to the fullest....she doesnt take a back seat to anyone...and it so refreshing... its hilarious to watch it all unfold... I love it when liberals show their true colors... tolerance my ass..

She says what she's told to say. She's a tool.

It's real hilarious Rick.. :roll: Wait til she is in office. Then we'll see how funny you think it is.

she is the female version of Teddy Roosevelt... I think I read that somewhere...
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME...

And I really liked you..

[ebake02]

Racism aside, don't you think some of their radical ire could stem from the fact that they are just fed up with the way this country has been run for decades...and they just want shit to get done?

I know the road to hell is paved with good intentions....but you have to start somewhere. No?

I guess overall, my problem is that they don't stop and think about how unrealistic or contradictory their goals for our country are. Auditing every federal agency is an enormous task that would cost billions and billions of dollars which will only add the deficit. Crawling out of the trillion dollar hole we got ourselves into is going to be a very painful experience that I'm not not sure they are willing to go though. The only way to get it done is to raise taxes and drastically cut federal government services. Cutting the national debt while at the same time cutting the government's income is counterproductive. It just seems to me to be a very short sighted movement, their emotions are getting in the way of logic and reason. I'm afraid that when these problems come to a head, they're gonna cut and run and leave the mess for someone else.

[S2M]

Racism aside, don't you think some of their radical ire could stem from the fact that they are just fed up with the way this country has been run for decades...and they just want shit to get done?

I know the road to hell is paved with good intentions....but you have to start somewhere. No?

I guess overall, my problem is that they don't stop and think about how unrealistic or contradictory their goals for our country are. Auditing every federal agency is an enormous task that would cost billions and billions of dollars which will only add the deficit. Crawling out of the trillion dollar hole we got ourselves into is going to be a very painful experience that I'm not not sure they are willing to go though. The only way to get it done is to raise taxes and drastically cut federal government services. Cutting the national debt while at the same time cutting the government's income is counterproductive. It just seems to me to be a very short sighted movement. Their emotions are getting in the way of logic and reason.

So you have this huge pile of garbage. I'm talking HUGE. And it is being added to every day. It has become a freakin' problem. Too big of a problem. You're faced with a dilemma: Solve the problem, or ignore it because it has, seemingly, become not very cost-effective to rid yourself of said problem. Ignoring will perpetuate the problem, but save us buttloads of cash.

My question is: Should every decision be based solely on it's economic merit?

[steveo777]

I can think of something that Palin is good for but not politics or hunting.

[Seven Wishes2]

Palin MAY be the next Roosevelt Colvin, but has as much in common with Teddy or FDR as Dave does with Liberace.

[DrFU]

she is the female version of Teddy Roosevelt.....

Great ... maybe they'll name a brand of condoms after her, too ...

I'm pretty much with this guy:

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-sor ... 93600.html

Aaron Sorkin.Playwright, screenwriter and television writer

"Unless you've never worn leather shoes, sat upon a leather chair or eaten meat, save your condemnation."

You're right, Sarah, we'll all just go fuck ourselves now.

The snotty quote was posted by Sarah Palin on (like all the great frontier women who've come before her) her Facebook page to respond to the criticism she knew and hoped would be coming after she hunted, killed and carved up a Caribou during a segment of her truly awful reality show, Sarah Palin's Alaska, broadcast on The-Now-Hilariously-Titled Learning Channel.

I eat meat, chicken and fish, have shoes and furniture made of leather, and PETA is not ever going to put me on the cover of their brochure and for these reasons Palin thinks it's hypocritical of me to find what she did heart-stoppingly disgusting. I don't think it is, and here's why.

Like 95% of the people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem eating meat or wearing a belt. But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals. I don't enjoy the fact that they're dead and I certainly don't want to volunteer to be the one to kill them and if I were picked to be the one to kill them in some kind of Lottery-from-Hell, I wouldn't do a little dance of joy while I was slicing the animal apart.

I'm able to make a distinction between you and me without feeling the least bit hypocritical. I don't watch snuff films and you make them. You weren't killing that animal for food or shelter or even fashion, you were killing it for fun. You enjoy killing animals. I can make the distinction between the two of us but I've tried and tried and for the life of me, I can't make a distinction between what you get paid to do and what Michael Vick went to prison for doing. I'm able to make the distinction with no pangs of hypocrisy even though I get happy every time one of you faux-macho shitheads accidentally shoots another one of you in the face.

So I don't think I will save my condemnation, you phony pioneer girl. (I'm in film and television, Cruella, and there was an insert close-up of your manicure while you were roughing it in God's country. I know exactly how many feet off camera your hair and make-up trailer was.)

And you didn't just do it for fun and you didn't just do it for money. That was the first moose ever murdered for political gain. You knew there'd be a protest from PETA and you knew that would be an opportunity to hate on some people, you witless bully. What a uniter you'd be -- bringing the right together with the far right.

(Let me be the first to say that I abused cocaine and was arrested for it in April 2001. I want to be the first to say it so that when Palin's Army of Arrogant Assholes, bereft of any reasonable rebuttal, write it all over the internet tomorrow they will at best be the second.)

I eat meat, there are leather chairs in my office, Sarah Palin is deranged and The Learning Channel should be ashamed of itself.

[SteveForever]

she is the female version of Teddy Roosevelt.....

Great ... maybe they'll name a brand of condoms after her, too ...

I'm pretty much with this guy:

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-sor ... 93600.html

Aaron Sorkin.Playwright, screenwriter and television writer

"Unless you've never worn leather shoes, sat upon a leather chair or eaten meat, save your condemnation."

You're right, Sarah, we'll all just go fuck ourselves now.

The snotty quote was posted by Sarah Palin on (like all the great frontier women who've come before her) her Facebook page to respond to the criticism she knew and hoped would be coming after she hunted, killed and carved up a Caribou during a segment of her truly awful reality show, Sarah Palin's Alaska, broadcast on The-Now-Hilariously-Titled Learning Channel.

I eat meat, chicken and fish, have shoes and furniture made of leather, and PETA is not ever going to put me on the cover of their brochure and for these reasons Palin thinks it's hypocritical of me to find what she did heart-stoppingly disgusting. I don't think it is, and here's why.

Like 95% of the people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem eating meat or wearing a belt. But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals. I don't enjoy the fact that they're dead and I certainly don't want to volunteer to be the one to kill them and if I were picked to be the one to kill them in some kind of Lottery-from-Hell, I wouldn't do a little dance of joy while I was slicing the animal apart.

I'm able to make a distinction between you and me without feeling the least bit hypocritical. I don't watch snuff films and you make them. You weren't killing that animal for food or shelter or even fashion, you were killing it for fun. You enjoy killing animals. I can make the distinction between the two of us but I've tried and tried and for the life of me, I can't make a distinction between what you get paid to do and what Michael Vick went to prison for doing. I'm able to make the distinction with no pangs of hypocrisy even though I get happy every time one of you faux-macho shitheads accidentally shoots another one of you in the face.

So I don't think I will save my condemnation, you phony pioneer girl. (I'm in film and television, Cruella, and there was an insert close-up of your manicure while you were roughing it in God's country. I know exactly how many feet off camera your hair and make-up trailer was.)

And you didn't just do it for fun and you didn't just do it for money. That was the first moose ever murdered for political gain. You knew there'd be a protest from PETA and you knew that would be an opportunity to hate on some people, you witless bully. What a uniter you'd be -- bringing the right together with the far right.

(Let me be the first to say that I abused cocaine and was arrested for it in April 2001. I want to be the first to say it so that when Palin's Army of Arrogant Assholes, bereft of any reasonable rebuttal, write it all over the internet tomorrow they will at best be the second.)

I eat meat, there are leather chairs in my office, Sarah Palin is deranged and The Learning Channel should be ashamed of itself.

AWESOME!!!!

[Michigan Girl]

I do not watch this show, reality TV tends to make me ill at times!!
So what's the scoop on this ...did she torture this animal?!?
A simple yes or no will do ...no details!!

[G.I.Jim]

I do not watch this show, reality TV tends to make me ill at times!!
So what's the scoop on this ...did she torture this animal?!?
A simple yes or no will do ...no details!!

Nope, just shot it. What was she THINKING???

[Angel]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

[Behshad]

She's done much "worse" thing than hunting and killing an animal! "Who's Nailin Palin" being one of them

[BobbyinTN]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

[Angel]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

Dear, I grew up in Idaho-I'm familiar with hunting, I grew up hunting...if you're a good shot the animal doesn't feel a thing...and even if they do-they didn't suffer their entire life living in a fenced in area with countless other animals walking through 3 feet of feces.

I can respect your arguement that it's wrong to torture animals but you still haven't answered why it's OK to torture the animals you buy in the grocery store but it's not OK to kill the ones in the forest?

[Behshad]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

Dear, I grew up in Idaho-I'm familiar with hunting, I grew up hunting...if you're a good shot the animal doesn't feel a thing...and even if they do-they didn't suffer their entire life living in a fenced in area with countless other animals walking through 3 feet of feces.

I can respect your arguement that it's wrong to torture animals but you still haven't answered why it's OK to torture the animals you buy in the grocery store but it's not OK to kill the ones in the forest?

Everybody is an expert now.

[BobbyinTN]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

Dear, I grew up in Idaho-I'm familiar with hunting, I grew up hunting...if you're a good shot the animal doesn't feel a thing...and even if they do-they didn't suffer their entire life living in a fenced in area with countless other animals walking through 3 feet of feces.

I can respect your arguement that it's wrong to torture animals but you still haven't answered why it's OK to torture the animals you buy in the grocery store but it's not OK to kill the ones in the forest?

What's your definition of torture?

[Angel]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

Dear, I grew up in Idaho-I'm familiar with hunting, I grew up hunting...if you're a good shot the animal doesn't feel a thing...and even if they do-they didn't suffer their entire life living in a fenced in area with countless other animals walking through 3 feet of feces.

I can respect your arguement that it's wrong to torture animals but you still haven't answered why it's OK to torture the animals you buy in the grocery store but it's not OK to kill the ones in the forest?

What's your definition of torture?

I think I already answered that-at least partially.

So, Bobby, are you a vegan?

[Rick]

I didn't watch the Palin reality show, but I have no problem with people hunting for food. I do not, however, believe in the killing of animals for the thrill. That's no different than what Michael Vick did.

Hunting is a good thing for two reasons. For people to forage food for themselves, and so that animals don't get so overpopulated that they starve. When a wild animal begins to starve, it will do whatever necessary to acquire food, even if that's breaking through a window at your house, eating from your garbage cans, showing up in alleys behind restaurants and so forth. Legalized hunting is like built in animal control, and it works. They put limits on most animals, so they aren't over-hunted and become scarce or completely driven from the area.

[Angel]

I didn't watch the Palin reality show, but I have no problem with people hunting for food. I do not, however, believe in the killing of animals for the thrill. That's no different than what Michael Vick did.

I agree 100%.

[RossValoryRocks]

I am just really having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that it's OK to eat beef/chicken/pork but NOT OK to kill and eat wild animals unless you are "hurting for food." I mean if you are a vegitarian and believe it's wrong to eat animals I can understand and respect that.

Have you seen the conditions of the beef/chicken/pork we eat? Do you have any idea how inhumane it is? How is that OK but killing a wild animal that has lived in prime conditions, eaten a diet of herbs suited to it's body, no chemicals, no antibiotics-is not OK? I do know that there can be diseased wild animals but there are FAR more diseased animals that are grown specifically for food.

How many animals have you seen shot and killed in the wild by hunters? I've seen enough to know that 95% of the time it's not a clean kill, the animals suffers just like anything that's being killed would. Please, take your trite arguments and use them in Freeper land, they'll be appreciate there, they're just ridiculed here.

Holy fuck...Talk about being an idiot?

You got Palin beat by a mile...and that is saying something.

Now you aren't just a gay-rights activist (which is good), but now you are a member of PETA as well??

Seeing your comments, including the ones on you "knowing how to hunt" or some such, I can tell that at least on that part you are just plain lying. Someone who had ever hunted in their lives would say they are a hunter or were a hunter, not I know how to hunt.

There are of course times an animal is not shot correctly, and doesn't die immediately. But 95%? You are pulling that number out of your ass.

I am a life long hunter and just can't stand when some libtard like you spews off bullshit and then say you are going to ridicule someone who is actually pointing out valid facts and positions in support hunting.

Go back to advocating sucking dick and taking it in the ass, at least then you are on firm ground and know what the fuck you are talking about, it is obvious you know NOTHING about hunting or why people do it, and WHY it is necessary to have hunters out there, thinning the herd as it were.

Oh and the venison steak I had for dinner was delicious!

[donnaplease]

I didn't watch the Palin reality show, but I have no problem with people hunting for food. I do not, however, believe in the killing of animals for the thrill. That's no different than what Michael Vick did.

I agree 100%.

Me too. As for the comments about Palin not caring about Alaska because she quit her job as governor, I'm not really sure how I feel about that. I mean she certainly did quit her job as governor, but then I think about all the politicians who give up their job as governor, senator, etc when they are running for another office (as Obama and Hilary and countless others have done) without actually stepping down from the office. They're getting paid for doing the people's work, that they aren't actually doing. Another way to look at it is that she should be commended for acknowledging that she would not live up to the expectations of the position because of other things she would be doing.

Personally, I don't care either way what she has done. I haven't watched the show, don't care to watch it, and don't think she should be a presidential candidate. There are some people who I believe would make our country less secure with them holding that job. Palin is one... Obama is another. I like her as a person, though.