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Postby Duncan » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:25 am

This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:29 am

Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:
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Postby parfait » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:19 am

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Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:


Women and men are equally shit poor at multitasking. All research has shown that multitasking isn't effective at all. So no, men nor women can multitask with any efficacy.
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Postby Duncan » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:45 am

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Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:


Not quite the same thing. What your talking about is pain threshold. This is how men get flu...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EElqrgk4N0
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Postby artist4perry » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:19 am

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Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:


Women and men are equally shit poor at multitasking. All research has shown that multitasking isn't effective at all. So no, men nor women can multitask with any efficacy.


You've never been a parent, trust me you have no choice to multitask with all that has to be done. It may not be so efficient, but sometimes you have no choice. Still, no matter what you do,you have to have enough common sense to look where your going! This said, by someone who trips a lot! LOL! I have weak ankles. I need to work them out more. :wink:
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:09 am

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Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:


Women and men are equally shit poor at multitasking. All research has shown that multitasking isn't effective at all. So no, men nor women can multitask with any efficacy.


I disagree. I think women are generally better at multitasking and men are generally better at things that require strict concentration. It's probably one of the reasons why males are generally better at things like math, science, etc.
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Postby parfait » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:12 am

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Duncan wrote:This clip blows out of the water the suggestion that women can multitask.


Most women can multitask...........that woman cannot walk and talk at the same time. How many men you know can have the full blown stomach flu and take care of two small children at the same time? Not many! :wink:


Women and men are equally shit poor at multitasking. All research has shown that multitasking isn't effective at all. So no, men nor women can multitask with any efficacy.


I disagree. I think women are generally better at multitasking and men are generally better at things that require strict concentration. It's probably one of the reasons why males are generally better at things like math, science, etc.


Not according to the research done. Men are better at math and science because they're generally more interested in that kind of stuff. We have oral exams in biophysics and organic chem, and I've died a little inside every time I get a female prof. I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:59 am

parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:16 am

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parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Postby parfait » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:32 am

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parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P


To say I know a lot certainly isn't wrong - I'll tell you that much.

Science is a relative term. What you would call science (a dude in the sky who made the universe in 6 days and drank the kool-aid on the seventh) isn't actually my type of science. But to each their own, Ginny.

Note: A rocket scientist is more of a engineer really, and both outdated and rather cliché. A quantum physicist (or scientist, have your pick) is much more suitable. Quantum Mechanics is some hardcore shit.
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:52 am

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parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P


To say I know a lot certainly isn't wrong - I'll tell you that much.

Science is a relative term. What you would call science (a dude in the sky who made the universe in 6 days and drank the kool-aid on the seventh) isn't actually my type of science. But to each their own, Ginny.

Note: A rocket scientist is more of a engineer really, and both outdated and rather cliché. A quantum physicist (or scientist, have your pick) is much more suitable. Quantum Mechanics is some hardcore shit.


In the famous words of one Southern child..........Kiss my Grits ........Quantum boy. It is a term meaning you go on like a know it all. And you cannot prove that the dude in the sky does not exist. Your welcome to your monkey theory............its all what you wish to be relative.........in this case your relative to a monkeys uncle........I will make you some banana pudding someday and make you feel right at home. As you say to each their own, and I am glad we have the right to our own choice. So hugs you overgrown Ape. Shave the pits will ya.........you gross us out here in the states. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby parfait » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:09 am

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parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
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parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P


To say I know a lot certainly isn't wrong - I'll tell you that much.

Science is a relative term. What you would call science (a dude in the sky who made the universe in 6 days and drank the kool-aid on the seventh) isn't actually my type of science. But to each their own, Ginny.

Note: A rocket scientist is more of a engineer really, and both outdated and rather cliché. A quantum physicist (or scientist, have your pick) is much more suitable. Quantum Mechanics is some hardcore shit.


In the famous words of one Southern child..........Kiss my Grits ........Quantum boy. It is a term meaning you go on like a know it all. And you cannot prove that the dude in the sky does not exist. Your welcome to your monkey theory............its all what you wish to be relative.........in this case your relative to a monkeys uncle........I will make you some banana pudding someday and make you feel right at home. As you say to each their own, and I am glad we have the right to our own choice. So hugs you overgrown Ape. Shave the pits will ya.........you gross us out here in the states. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The theory of evolution is as much of a theory as the theory of gravity. Evolution has been proven to be infallible. You really need to learn the meaning of a scientific theory, which is totally different than a theory in everyday life. We didn't evolve from monkeys (or modern apes to be exact), but from a shared, common ancestor - another misconception right there. You can think what you like, but that doesn't change the reality of it.

I don't know it all. This is common knowledge in the modernized, western world.
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Postby Arianddu » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:56 am

Duncan wrote:Not quite the same thing. What your talking about is pain threshold. This is how men get flu...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EElqrgk4N0


I didn't even need to click the link to know what it was. I think this should replace rick-rolling, to be honest.
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Postby artist4perry » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:57 am

parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P


To say I know a lot certainly isn't wrong - I'll tell you that much.

Science is a relative term. What you would call science (a dude in the sky who made the universe in 6 days and drank the kool-aid on the seventh) isn't actually my type of science. But to each their own, Ginny.

Note: A rocket scientist is more of a engineer really, and both outdated and rather cliché. A quantum physicist (or scientist, have your pick) is much more suitable. Quantum Mechanics is some hardcore shit.


In the famous words of one Southern child..........Kiss my Grits ........Quantum boy. It is a term meaning you go on like a know it all. And you cannot prove that the dude in the sky does not exist. Your welcome to your monkey theory............its all what you wish to be relative.........in this case your relative to a monkeys uncle........I will make you some banana pudding someday and make you feel right at home. As you say to each their own, and I am glad we have the right to our own choice. So hugs you overgrown Ape. Shave the pits will ya.........you gross us out here in the states. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The theory of evolution is as much of a theory as the theory of gravity. Evolution has been proven to be infallible. You really need to learn the meaning of a scientific theory, which is totally different than a theory in everyday life. We didn't evolve from monkeys (or modern apes to be exact), but from a shared, common ancestor - another misconception right there. You can think what you like, but that doesn't change the reality of it.

I don't know it all. This is common knowledge in the modernized, western world.


It isn't proven, it isn't a law of science. You need to know the definition of theory. I already know it. LOL! Give it up parfait, the monkey reference is a joke, and you should get that if your so smart. :wink: You have your reality, I have mine. So have a nice day Tarzan, mudflaps are disgusting by the way, get a pair of man pants. :wink: :P :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

By the way smarty pants................it is the LAW OF GRAVITY, NOT THEORY. DUFFUS.
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Postby parfait » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:26 pm

artist4perry wrote:
parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
parfait wrote:I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.


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It's the little brothers you have to worry about with some priests I hear. Screw you Parfait, I loved science and made great grades in the subject. But then again, I keep forgetting your a self proclaimed rocket scientist. You know EVERYTHING.............. By the way....... :P :P :P :P :P :P


To say I know a lot certainly isn't wrong - I'll tell you that much.

Science is a relative term. What you would call science (a dude in the sky who made the universe in 6 days and drank the kool-aid on the seventh) isn't actually my type of science. But to each their own, Ginny.

Note: A rocket scientist is more of a engineer really, and both outdated and rather cliché. A quantum physicist (or scientist, have your pick) is much more suitable. Quantum Mechanics is some hardcore shit.


In the famous words of one Southern child..........Kiss my Grits ........Quantum boy. It is a term meaning you go on like a know it all. And you cannot prove that the dude in the sky does not exist. Your welcome to your monkey theory............its all what you wish to be relative.........in this case your relative to a monkeys uncle........I will make you some banana pudding someday and make you feel right at home. As you say to each their own, and I am glad we have the right to our own choice. So hugs you overgrown Ape. Shave the pits will ya.........you gross us out here in the states. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The theory of evolution is as much of a theory as the theory of gravity. Evolution has been proven to be infallible. You really need to learn the meaning of a scientific theory, which is totally different than a theory in everyday life. We didn't evolve from monkeys (or modern apes to be exact), but from a shared, common ancestor - another misconception right there. You can think what you like, but that doesn't change the reality of it.

I don't know it all. This is common knowledge in the modernized, western world.


It isn't proven, it isn't a law of science. You need to know the definition of theory. I already know it. LOL! Give it up parfait, the monkey reference is a joke, and you should get that if your so smart. :wink: You have your reality, I have mine. So have a nice day Tarzan, mudflaps are disgusting by the way, get a pair of man pants. :wink: :P :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

By the way smarty pants................it is the LAW OF GRAVITY, NOT THEORY. DUFFUS.


What are you talking about? There's no such thing as a Law of Gravity. Newton's law of universal gravitation is however a empirical law (of classical physics(!)), which is suitable for predictions (calculations) of gravity. However, there is still no sound theories that explain gravity - scientists know absolutely nothing about it. They know it's there, but there's several anomalies which currently isn't explained (however things like string theory hopefully will, by explaining that the reason for gravity's weak force is because it's residual; it resides in multiverses)

Okay, now that's explained for you (hope it was easy enough for you), then there's the explanation of the difference between the everyday usage of the word theory, and the scientific one, provided by Richard Feynman:

This is because a physical law is a summary observation of strictly empirical matters, whereas a theory is a model that accounts for the observation, explains it, relates it to other observations, and makes testable predictions based upon it. Simply stated, while a law notes that something happens, a theory explains why and how something happens.


And uh... You told me to learn the definition of a scientific theory? Give me a fucking break. I've just revealed your knowledge, or lack thereof, of anything related to science. This is science 101 - the absolute basics.
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Postby artist4perry » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:15 am

Parfait, your a dolt. You can claim all the blah blah you want. It is the law of gravity. You throw it up it comes down. Try it, I learned that in elementary school. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gravity works, or else you would go bye bye into outer space.......................darned gravity. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now as how it works.............I thought you cannot believe in something that does not have hard core proof of how it works..............like my man upstairs, you can see his handiwork, though you cannot figure out how he does it. He created the gravity thing too by the way. Even if you don't understand it, I am glad he did. Floating can be such a bore sometimes. LOL! Parfait, quit trying to prove how smart you are, and try having a sense of humor about you.........really your getting dull. LOL! :wink: :lol:

You can be smart in some ways but so dumb in others. You cannot be an expert in everything. And one thing you lack is the ability to think outside of the box. You can only believe in what you see, not in what you cannot see. Some of the greatest mysteries of life are contained in the unexplained. I for one love the unexplained, science is ever changing, and to be true science, it will always question the very nature of all of its principles. I like to question things, to explore, to discover. I learn every day new things, and find new ideas. This is true learning. To be ever open to new concepts. Try it, it is very freeing.
I don't think that science cannot make mistakes, they do all the time. But in the effort to learn a scientist should always test, retest, and question all aspects of science. Failure and mistakes are a given in any science, but it is in the failing that we learn. Science is wonderful, but it is not 100% infallible. They don't have all the answers. So I will continue to question and think outside of the box when I find their answers fall short of answering my questions in life.

I tease you a lot, but I have no ill will to you. Understand that it is dumb hayseed artists like me that look far into the possibilities of life, and dream and create and invent. We have no fear of impossible, but try to find the probable in what can be dreamed and done. I hope to inspire my students to be forever dreamers, thinkers, and questioners of life. Not to accept the way things have always been done because someone says so. :D
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Postby hoagiepete » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:31 am

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Postby artist4perry » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:54 am

hoagiepete wrote:Trial Lawyers' WET dream. :roll: :roll: :)


Amen to that! LOL! Ah which came first the chicken or the egg. The scientist say the chicken, so does God. We can come to some agreeable points! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby parfait » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:58 pm

artist4perry wrote:Parfait, your a dolt. You can claim all the blah blah you want. It is the law of gravity. You throw it up it comes down. Try it, I learned that in elementary school. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gravity works, or else you would go bye bye into outer space.......................darned gravity. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now as how it works.............I thought you cannot believe in something that does not have hard core proof of how it works..............like my man upstairs, you can see his handiwork, though you cannot figure out how he does it. He created the gravity thing too by the way. Even if you don't understand it, I am glad he did. Floating can be such a bore sometimes. LOL! Parfait, quit trying to prove how smart you are, and try having a sense of humor about you.........really your getting dull. LOL! :wink: :lol:

You can be smart in some ways but so dumb in others. You cannot be an expert in everything. And one thing you lack is the ability to think outside of the box. You can only believe in what you see, not in what you cannot see. Some of the greatest mysteries of life are contained in the unexplained. I for one love the unexplained, science is ever changing, and to be true science, it will always question the very nature of all of its principles. I like to question things, to explore, to discover. I learn every day new things, and find new ideas. This is true learning. To be ever open to new concepts. Try it, it is very freeing.
I don't think that science cannot make mistakes, they do all the time. But in the effort to learn a scientist should always test, retest, and question all aspects of science. Failure and mistakes are a given in any science, but it is in the failing that we learn. Science is wonderful, but it is not 100% infallible. They don't have all the answers. So I will continue to question and think outside of the box when I find their answers fall short of answering my questions in life.

I tease you a lot, but I have no ill will to you. Understand that it is dumb hayseed artists like me that look far into the possibilities of life, and dream and create and invent. We have no fear of impossible, but try to find the probable in what can be dreamed and done. I hope to inspire my students to be forever dreamers, thinkers, and questioners of life. Not to accept the way things have always been done because someone says so. :D


Yeah yeah. I should be more open minded and yadda yadda yadda. The whole point is that gravity doesn't work as it should. General relativity can explain most of it, but there's several anomalies - oh, and good luck combining general relativity with quantum physics. Science is infallible and that's the whole point of it. A theory can take several decades to perfect, and may still need updating from time to another. The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out.

It surprises me that you don't see the irony in what you're saying however. You say that you inspire your students to think for themself and be open to new ideas, while you've blatantly decided without any empirical evidence at all, that some dude in the sky created everything! No more questions asked, you just "know" that it had to be some guy in the sky. Don't you think it's hypocritical for you to tell your students that they should keep an open mind, when you obviously does not?

It was the pioneers of science, of free thinking and enlightenment who didn't accept things as they are, because someone says so (the church) - most of them got killed for it. And what do we have today because people stepped out of conformity? We have gene therapy and electricity.

I'll try to forget that you completely overlooked what we originally discussed; the definition of a scientific theory, where you were obviously wrong. If M-theory hits through and CERN finds some kind of graviton or gauge boson, then we'll one day see someone who'll find another universe - multiverses.
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Postby Ligzig » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:53 pm

Parfait is right.

“Evolution is a theory in a special philosophical sense of science, but in terms of ordinary laymen's use of language, it's a fact, ... Evolution is a fact in the same sense that it's a fact that the Earth is round and not flat, and that the Earth goes around the Sun. Both of those are also theories, but they're theories that have never been disproved and never will be disproved.”
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Postby Duncan » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:58 pm

Totally agree with Parfait on this one.
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Postby artist4perry » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:33 pm

Your all welcome to agree with Parfait on this one. I still say I disagree, empirical evidence my butt. Scientists were the ones who said the world was flat, so much for never being wrong. The bible has always maintained in the old testament the roundness of the earth. I am not trying to convert any of you hard core atheists. Your already convinced in your mind nothing else can exist except for what your told. Scientists also used to think ulcers were brought about by worry, they then learned they are caused by bacteria. Scientists used to bleed people to make them well, killed a few of them in the process. But they never make mistakes I get it, and I should bow to the god of Science and worship its perfect self and never question the science behind it. There is science to back up creation too, but you won't listen or care. I will continue to live my life my way, love all you guys in spite, and take my chances. If I am wrong I am dead like Rover all over and this brief life is all I have, my belief will not harm a soul. If I am right I have a great afterlife waiting. It's all good gentlemen. But I will not deny my God for all the posturing of science and atheists. You don't know all there is to know, and there are things your science cannot answer. This world is perfect in its form and symbiotic nature. What a paradise it is, it is beautiful. I love and closely study every blade of grass and animal I can. I am fascinated how every thing works. I believe in science, but not that it is perfect.
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Postby artist4perry » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:37 pm

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artist4perry wrote:Parfait, your a dolt. You can claim all the blah blah you want. It is the law of gravity. You throw it up it comes down. Try it, I learned that in elementary school. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gravity works, or else you would go bye bye into outer space.......................darned gravity. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now as how it works.............I thought you cannot believe in something that does not have hard core proof of how it works..............like my man upstairs, you can see his handiwork, though you cannot figure out how he does it. He created the gravity thing too by the way. Even if you don't understand it, I am glad he did. Floating can be such a bore sometimes. LOL! Parfait, quit trying to prove how smart you are, and try having a sense of humor about you.........really your getting dull. LOL! :wink: :lol:

You can be smart in some ways but so dumb in others. You cannot be an expert in everything. And one thing you lack is the ability to think outside of the box. You can only believe in what you see, not in what you cannot see. Some of the greatest mysteries of life are contained in the unexplained. I for one love the unexplained, science is ever changing, and to be true science, it will always question the very nature of all of its principles. I like to question things, to explore, to discover. I learn every day new things, and find new ideas. This is true learning. To be ever open to new concepts. Try it, it is very freeing.
I don't think that science cannot make mistakes, they do all the time. But in the effort to learn a scientist should always test, retest, and question all aspects of science. Failure and mistakes are a given in any science, but it is in the failing that we learn. Science is wonderful, but it is not 100% infallible. They don't have all the answers. So I will continue to question and think outside of the box when I find their answers fall short of answering my questions in life.

I tease you a lot, but I have no ill will to you. Understand that it is dumb hayseed artists like me that look far into the possibilities of life, and dream and create and invent. We have no fear of impossible, but try to find the probable in what can be dreamed and done. I hope to inspire my students to be forever dreamers, thinkers, and questioners of life. Not to accept the way things have always been done because someone says so. :D


Yeah yeah. I should be more open minded and yadda yadda yadda. The whole point is that gravity doesn't work as it should. General relativity can explain most of it, but there's several anomalies - oh, and good luck combining general relativity with quantum physics. Science is infallible and that's the whole point of it. A theory can take several decades to perfect, and may still need updating from time to another. The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out[/i].

It surprises me that you don't see the irony in what you're saying however. You say that you inspire your students to think for themself and be open to new ideas, while you've blatantly decided without any empirical evidence at all, that some dude in the sky created everything! No more questions asked, you just "know" that it had to be some guy in the sky. Don't you think it's hypocritical for you to tell your students that they should keep an open mind, when you obviously does not?

It was the pioneers of science, of free thinking and enlightenment who [i]didn't accept things as they are, because someone says so
(the church) - most of them got killed for it. And what do we have today because people stepped out of conformity? We have gene therapy and electricity.

I'll try to forget that you completely overlooked what we originally discussed; the definition of a scientific theory, where you were obviously wrong. If M-theory hits through and CERN finds some kind of graviton or gauge boson, then we'll one day see someone who'll find another universe - multiverses.


Last time I checked Parfait you don't run this site, and you don't have the right to tell me to get the F out. Hate God Christians the whole bit. But you don't have that right. Only Andrew does. My opinion has as much right here as yours. :wink:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:54 pm

artist4perry wrote:Your all welcome to agree with Parfait on this one. I still say I disagree, empirical evidence my butt. Scientists were the ones who said the world was flat, so much for never being wrong. The bible has always maintained in the old testament the roundness of the earth. I am not trying to convert any of you hard core atheists. Your already convinced in your mind nothing else can exist except for what your told. Scientists also used to think ulcers were brought about by worry, they then learned they are caused by bacteria. Scientists used to bleed people to make them well, killed a few of them in the process. But they never make mistakes I get it, and I should bow to the god of Science and worship its perfect self and never question the science behind it. There is science to back up creation too, but you won't listen or care. I will continue to live my life my way, love all you guys in spite, and take my chances. If I am wrong I am dead like Rover all over and this brief life is all I have, my belief will not harm a soul. If I am right I have a great afterlife waiting. It's all good gentlemen. But I will not deny my God for all the posturing of science and atheists. You don't know all there is to know, and there are things your science cannot answer. This world is perfect in its form and symbiotic nature. What a paradise it is, it is beautiful. I love and closely study every blade of grass and animal I can. I am fascinated how every thing works. I believe in science, but not that it is perfect.


artist4perry wrote:Last time I checked Parfait you don't run this site, and you don't have the right to tell me to get the F out. Hate God Christians the whole bit. But you don't have that right. Only Andrew does. My opinion has as much right here as yours. :wink:


These days I think it's not what someone believes that makes the difference -- it's how their belief affects their lives, and through them, the lives of others around them. There are a lot of harmful belief systems in this world, but I wouldn't change anything about Ginger and her presence here benefits the site a lot more than mine ever has. Not to say I don't contribute anything though, especially with my mutual appreciate for fine art...

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If people want to think negative about Christians, Ginger isn't a good example to draw from. I imagine more people are attracted to faith through her than are turned off by it.
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Rip Rokken wrote:These days I think it's not what someone believes that makes the difference -- it's how their belief affects their lives, and through them, the lives of others around them. There are a lot of harmful belief systems in this world, but I wouldn't change anything about Ginger and her presence here benefits the site a lot more than mine ever has...

If people want to think negative about Christians, Ginger isn't a good example to draw from. I imagine more people are attracted to faith through her than are turned off by it.


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Postby parfait » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:07 am

artist4perry wrote:
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artist4perry wrote:Parfait, your a dolt. You can claim all the blah blah you want. It is the law of gravity. You throw it up it comes down. Try it, I learned that in elementary school. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gravity works, or else you would go bye bye into outer space.......................darned gravity. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now as how it works.............I thought you cannot believe in something that does not have hard core proof of how it works..............like my man upstairs, you can see his handiwork, though you cannot figure out how he does it. He created the gravity thing too by the way. Even if you don't understand it, I am glad he did. Floating can be such a bore sometimes. LOL! Parfait, quit trying to prove how smart you are, and try having a sense of humor about you.........really your getting dull. LOL! :wink: :lol:

You can be smart in some ways but so dumb in others. You cannot be an expert in everything. And one thing you lack is the ability to think outside of the box. You can only believe in what you see, not in what you cannot see. Some of the greatest mysteries of life are contained in the unexplained. I for one love the unexplained, science is ever changing, and to be true science, it will always question the very nature of all of its principles. I like to question things, to explore, to discover. I learn every day new things, and find new ideas. This is true learning. To be ever open to new concepts. Try it, it is very freeing.
I don't think that science cannot make mistakes, they do all the time. But in the effort to learn a scientist should always test, retest, and question all aspects of science. Failure and mistakes are a given in any science, but it is in the failing that we learn. Science is wonderful, but it is not 100% infallible. They don't have all the answers. So I will continue to question and think outside of the box when I find their answers fall short of answering my questions in life.

I tease you a lot, but I have no ill will to you. Understand that it is dumb hayseed artists like me that look far into the possibilities of life, and dream and create and invent. We have no fear of impossible, but try to find the probable in what can be dreamed and done. I hope to inspire my students to be forever dreamers, thinkers, and questioners of life. Not to accept the way things have always been done because someone says so. :D


Yeah yeah. I should be more open minded and yadda yadda yadda. The whole point is that gravity doesn't work as it should. General relativity can explain most of it, but there's several anomalies - oh, and good luck combining general relativity with quantum physics. Science is infallible and that's the whole point of it. A theory can take several decades to perfect, and may still need updating from time to another. The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out[/i].

It surprises me that you don't see the irony in what you're saying however. You say that you inspire your students to think for themself and be open to new ideas, while you've blatantly decided without any empirical evidence at all, that some dude in the sky created everything! No more questions asked, you just "know" that it had to be some guy in the sky. Don't you think it's hypocritical for you to tell your students that they should keep an open mind, when you obviously does not?

It was the pioneers of science, of free thinking and enlightenment who [i]didn't accept things as they are, because someone says so
(the church) - most of them got killed for it. And what do we have today because people stepped out of conformity? We have gene therapy and electricity.

I'll try to forget that you completely overlooked what we originally discussed; the definition of a scientific theory, where you were obviously wrong. If M-theory hits through and CERN finds some kind of graviton or gauge boson, then we'll one day see someone who'll find another universe - multiverses.


Last time I checked Parfait you don't run this site, and you don't have the right to tell me to get the F out. Hate God Christians the whole bit. But you don't have that right. Only Andrew does. My opinion has as much right here as yours. :wink:


I never told you to go fuck yourself. I explained how the scientific method works. You make up a hypothesis, try it out or find empirical proof backing it up. If not then you discard it.

It was known that the earth was spherical long before the old testament was written. Should I also remind you that Galileo was condemned for heresy for proposing the heliocentric world view - and the church banned all his work. It surprises me however, that you even bring up the old testament, as it consits of psychopathic and sadistic ramblings - Deuteronomy and Genesis is especially bad. OT got pedophilia, masochism, rape and torture. I'd be happy to give show you the scriptures and psalms if you'd like.

I've never stated that science is infallible, actually I've said the total opposite. It's through the mistaken experiments and hypothesis's that makes it possible for scientific progress to happen, so stop putting words in my mouth. Of course there's things science can't answer, but that doesn't mean it eventually will. We'll most likely, in this decade or the next, have a cure for cancer - scientists are getting closer each day. What has the church done for cancer excepting praying, which obviously won't do shit.

You say there's proof of creation. I'd love to hear it. How you can call the world perfect is however beyond me. Tsunamis, earthquakes, poverty, racism, religious fundamentalism and HIV isn't my idea of a perfect world. You try to tell a 12 year old girl with terminal cancer, or someone born in Sudan, that God created a perfect world, and that there's a meaning with everything - he always has a plan, right? It's pompous and pretentious. Religion is a natural coping mechanism from ancient history, which was created by people to cope with the barbaric and ruthless reality of the world. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:12 am

parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
parfait wrote:
artist4perry wrote:Parfait, your a dolt. You can claim all the blah blah you want. It is the law of gravity. You throw it up it comes down. Try it, I learned that in elementary school. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gravity works, or else you would go bye bye into outer space.......................darned gravity. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now as how it works.............I thought you cannot believe in something that does not have hard core proof of how it works..............like my man upstairs, you can see his handiwork, though you cannot figure out how he does it. He created the gravity thing too by the way. Even if you don't understand it, I am glad he did. Floating can be such a bore sometimes. LOL! Parfait, quit trying to prove how smart you are, and try having a sense of humor about you.........really your getting dull. LOL! :wink: :lol:

You can be smart in some ways but so dumb in others. You cannot be an expert in everything. And one thing you lack is the ability to think outside of the box. You can only believe in what you see, not in what you cannot see. Some of the greatest mysteries of life are contained in the unexplained. I for one love the unexplained, science is ever changing, and to be true science, it will always question the very nature of all of its principles. I like to question things, to explore, to discover. I learn every day new things, and find new ideas. This is true learning. To be ever open to new concepts. Try it, it is very freeing.
I don't think that science cannot make mistakes, they do all the time. But in the effort to learn a scientist should always test, retest, and question all aspects of science. Failure and mistakes are a given in any science, but it is in the failing that we learn. Science is wonderful, but it is not 100% infallible. They don't have all the answers. So I will continue to question and think outside of the box when I find their answers fall short of answering my questions in life.

I tease you a lot, but I have no ill will to you. Understand that it is dumb hayseed artists like me that look far into the possibilities of life, and dream and create and invent. We have no fear of impossible, but try to find the probable in what can be dreamed and done. I hope to inspire my students to be forever dreamers, thinkers, and questioners of life. Not to accept the way things have always been done because someone says so. :D


Yeah yeah. I should be more open minded and yadda yadda yadda. The whole point is that gravity doesn't work as it should. General relativity can explain most of it, but there's several anomalies - oh, and good luck combining general relativity with quantum physics. Science is infallible and that's the whole point of it. A theory can take several decades to perfect, and may still need updating from time to another. The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out[/i].

It surprises me that you don't see the irony in what you're saying however. You say that you inspire your students to think for themself and be open to new ideas, while you've blatantly decided without any empirical evidence at all, that some dude in the sky created everything! No more questions asked, you just "know" that it had to be some guy in the sky. Don't you think it's hypocritical for you to tell your students that they should keep an open mind, when you obviously does not?

It was the pioneers of science, of free thinking and enlightenment who [i]didn't accept things as they are, because someone says so
(the church) - most of them got killed for it. And what do we have today because people stepped out of conformity? We have gene therapy and electricity.

I'll try to forget that you completely overlooked what we originally discussed; the definition of a scientific theory, where you were obviously wrong. If M-theory hits through and CERN finds some kind of graviton or gauge boson, then we'll one day see someone who'll find another universe - multiverses.


Last time I checked Parfait you don't run this site, and you don't have the right to tell me to get the F out. Hate God Christians the whole bit. But you don't have that right. Only Andrew does. My opinion has as much right here as yours. :wink:


I never told you to go fuck yourself. I explained how the scientific method works. You make up a hypothesis, try it out or find empirical proof backing it up. If not then you discard it.

It was known that the earth was spherical long before the old testament was written. Should I also remind you that Galileo was condemned for heresy for proposing the heliocentric world view - and the church banned all his work. It surprises me however, that you even bring up the old testament, as it consits of psychopathic and sadistic ramblings - Deuteronomy and Genesis is especially bad. OT got pedophilia, masochism, rape and torture. I'd be happy to give show you the scriptures and psalms if you'd like.

I've never stated that science is infallible, actually I've said the total opposite. It's through the mistaken experiments and hypothesis's that makes it possible for scientific progress to happen, so stop putting words in my mouth. Of course there's things science can't answer, but that doesn't mean it eventually will. We'll most likely, in this decade or the next, have a cure for cancer - scientists are getting closer each day. What has the church done for cancer excepting praying, which obviously won't do shit.

You say there's proof of creation. I'd love to hear it. How you can call the world perfect is however beyond me. Tsunamis, earthquakes, poverty, racism, religious fundamentalism and HIV isn't my idea of a perfect world. You try to tell a 12 year old girl with terminal cancer, or someone born in Sudan, that God created a perfect world, and that there's a meaning with everything - he always has a plan, right? It's pompous and pretentious. Religion is a natural coping mechanism from ancient history, which was created by people to cope with the barbaric and ruthless reality of the world. Nothing more, nothing less.


Did a French priest forage for chocolate in your asshole when you were a little boy? I get you love science and all that, but your obsession with disparaging religion on here is just the flip side of the fanaticism the religious fundamentalists you rail against display on a regular basis. I'm a baptized Catholic, but I'm not religious. Couldn't tell you the last time I went to church, and praying never did much for me. But, you don't see me going on and on about this shit. Move on dude. It's like talking politics. You're not changing their minds and they're not changing yours.
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Postby Moon Beam » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:02 am

parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:08 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
artist4perry wrote:Your all welcome to agree with Parfait on this one. I still say I disagree, empirical evidence my butt. Scientists were the ones who said the world was flat, so much for never being wrong. The bible has always maintained in the old testament the roundness of the earth. I am not trying to convert any of you hard core atheists. Your already convinced in your mind nothing else can exist except for what your told. Scientists also used to think ulcers were brought about by worry, they then learned they are caused by bacteria. Scientists used to bleed people to make them well, killed a few of them in the process. But they never make mistakes I get it, and I should bow to the god of Science and worship its perfect self and never question the science behind it. There is science to back up creation too, but you won't listen or care. I will continue to live my life my way, love all you guys in spite, and take my chances. If I am wrong I am dead like Rover all over and this brief life is all I have, my belief will not harm a soul. If I am right I have a great afterlife waiting. It's all good gentlemen. But I will not deny my God for all the posturing of science and atheists. You don't know all there is to know, and there are things your science cannot answer. This world is perfect in its form and symbiotic nature. What a paradise it is, it is beautiful. I love and closely study every blade of grass and animal I can. I am fascinated how every thing works. I believe in science, but not that it is perfect.


artist4perry wrote:Last time I checked Parfait you don't run this site, and you don't have the right to tell me to get the F out. Hate God Christians the whole bit. But you don't have that right. Only Andrew does. My opinion has as much right here as yours. :wink:


These days I think it's not what someone believes that makes the difference -- it's how their belief affects their lives, and through them, the lives of others around them. There are a lot of harmful belief systems in this world, but I wouldn't change anything about Ginger and her presence here benefits the site a lot more than mine ever has. Not to say I don't contribute anything though, especially with my mutual appreciate for fine art...

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If people want to think negative about Christians, Ginger isn't a good example to draw from. I imagine more people are attracted to faith through her than are turned off by it.


Thanks, that is so nice. I am far from perfect. But I just get tired of in your face atheism. No I won't argue with you Parfait. It is a lost cause. Your just as confirmed in your "theory" as I am my God. And you did say to get the F out. Or do I need to quote that bit again? LOL! It is all good though. Difference being no matter how we disagree I still can find the good in most folks. I could care less about your atheist beliefs. I have many atheist friends. What I love about them is they don't seem a bit bothered by my faith. If one asks what makes Dan and I so in tune together, a great deal of that is our spiritual bond as well as our friendship. We are cut from the same cloth. He has a degree in Bible. I never fear of him doing me wrong. It would not only be a betrayal to me, but to his God. And even I could not divide him from that. We hold hands during prayer at church. Nothing more bonding in the world. :wink: :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:09 am

Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


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