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Postby LtVanish » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:35 pm

The long out of print 'What If' is now available to download on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/What-If/dp/B0049Y ... s_ep_dpt_1
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Postby stmonkeys » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:44 am

i'm amazed at how many delusional people actually gave that album 5 stars!!!!!!!! REALLY????!!!!!

it's a 2 1/2 star effort at best. download reach for the bottle and the title track. forget the rest and buy GWG, Ambition, and 7DZ instead!
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Postby masque » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:46 am

it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.
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Postby Toph » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:58 am

masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!
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Postby yogi » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:12 am

Nature of the Beast is a GREAT GREAT song. Reach For the Bottle & Jealousy are decent at best.

The rest of the album SUCKS!!!! It's damn near as bad as Out On A Day Pass.

If you purchase this CD off of amazon.com chose the .49 cent shipping option and then pray that your CD NEVER arrives!!!
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Postby Don » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:34 am

Worstest

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Postby kmd2009 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:37 am

i think anything that tommy does for solo work is bad. i'm sorry. he's not a good solo artist.
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Postby yogi » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:36 am

Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.
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Postby Ash » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:03 am

yogi wrote:Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.


SDZ was the best of any Styx solo record... and IMO ... better than a couple of Styx records. I still listen to the thing start to finish without skipping a track.

As for What If... I liked Nature of the Beast... and call me strange, but I loved the music of "This is not a test".. pretty good guitar lick - just really, really bad lyrics. Listen to it and ignore the vocals... the guitar work is really pretty good. Out on a Day Ass was pure shit from start to finish with zero redeeming qualities other than currently serving as a drink coaster for guests in my home.
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Postby masque » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:21 am

Toph wrote:
masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!


no toph....it's called having a preference and good enough ears to know when somebody writes a decent fucking song or not. what if sure aint pieces of eight but it does have some good songs on it and nature of the beast is a good song. go peddle your papers.
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Postby Toph » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:49 pm

Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.


SDZ was the best of any Styx solo record... and IMO ... better than a couple of Styx records. I still listen to the thing start to finish without skipping a track.

As for What If... I liked Nature of the Beast... and call me strange, but I loved the music of "This is not a test".. pretty good guitar lick - just really, really bad lyrics. Listen to it and ignore the vocals... the guitar work is really pretty good. Out on a Day Ass was pure shit from start to finish with zero redeeming qualities other than currently serving as a drink coaster for guests in my home.


You're stoned. One Hundred Years From Now Blows 7DZ out of the water.
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Postby Toph » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:50 pm

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!


no toph....it's called having a preference and good enough ears to know when somebody writes a decent fucking song or not. what if sure aint pieces of eight but it does have some good songs on it and nature of the beast is a good song. go peddle your papers.


That entire albums sucks. There is not one good song on it. So either you have horrible music taste or you are just lifting up the bathwater for your boy Tommy....
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Postby Mr JY Roboto » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:19 pm

Toph wrote:
masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!


no toph....it's called having a preference and good enough ears to know when somebody writes a decent fucking song or not. what if sure aint pieces of eight but it does have some good songs on it and nature of the beast is a good song. go peddle your papers.


That entire albums sucks. There is not one good song on it. So either you have horrible music taste or you are just lifting up the bathwater for your boy Tommy....
Stoph you are high as a kite smoking turds.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:07 pm

Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.


SDZ was the best of any Styx solo record... and IMO ... better than a couple of Styx records. I still listen to the thing start to finish without skipping a track.

As for What If... I liked Nature of the Beast... and call me strange, but I loved the music of "This is not a test".. pretty good guitar lick - just really, really bad lyrics. Listen to it and ignore the vocals... the guitar work is really pretty good. Out on a Day Ass was pure shit from start to finish with zero redeeming qualities other than currently serving as a drink coaster for guests in my home.


If you need more copies of Out On a Day Pass to make a complete coaster set, I am sure JY can help you out. I wonder if that album even sold 500 copies.
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Postby Monker » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:35 pm

Toph wrote:
Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.


SDZ was the best of any Styx solo record... and IMO ... better than a couple of Styx records. I still listen to the thing start to finish without skipping a track.

As for What If... I liked Nature of the Beast... and call me strange, but I loved the music of "This is not a test".. pretty good guitar lick - just really, really bad lyrics. Listen to it and ignore the vocals... the guitar work is really pretty good. Out on a Day Ass was pure shit from start to finish with zero redeeming qualities other than currently serving as a drink coaster for guests in my home.


You're stoned. One Hundred Years From Now Blows 7DZ out of the water.


No it doesn't. It's Dennis' best solo album. But, 7DZ has stood the test of time as a great album for me where I haven't played 100yrs for months now and simply don't miss it at all.

You can have your preference of one over the other...but to say one 'blows away" the other is absolute bullshit.
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Postby Boomchild » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:39 pm

Monker wrote:
Toph wrote:
Ash wrote:
yogi wrote:Seven Deadly Zens was GREAT!! An ABSOLUTE gem of an album.

Ambition was good, and Girls With Guns had its moments.


SDZ was the best of any Styx solo record... and IMO ... better than a couple of Styx records. I still listen to the thing start to finish without skipping a track.

As for What If... I liked Nature of the Beast... and call me strange, but I loved the music of "This is not a test".. pretty good guitar lick - just really, really bad lyrics. Listen to it and ignore the vocals... the guitar work is really pretty good. Out on a Day Ass was pure shit from start to finish with zero redeeming qualities other than currently serving as a drink coaster for guests in my home.


You're stoned. One Hundred Years From Now Blows 7DZ out of the water.


No it doesn't. It's Dennis' best solo album. But, 7DZ has stood the test of time as a great album for me where I haven't played 100yrs for months now and simply don't miss it at all.

You can have your preference of one over the other...but to say one 'blows away" the other is absolute bullshit.


To me it's the most solid solo efforts from both of them (7DZ\OYFN). The albums are too different for me to compare them in that way. As far as What If I always had the feeling that Tommy was just filling his contractual obligation with that album. The album is very weak at best.
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Postby Ash » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:22 am

Anyone who knows anything about me and my time here knows I'm behind DDY 100000%. I love him - go to his shows... and 100 Years is his best work since Paradise Theatre. Conversely, I've been to one Styx show since DDY was kicked out... and I didn't know he was kicked out at the time. And when Gowan sang CSA, I left. (This was 1999).

7DZ is in a different class. It neither sounds like Styx or any other of Tommy's work. Simply put - it's modern music (for it's time) and it works - really, really well. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due... and 7DZ is Tommy at his absolute best. Just like 100YFN is DDY at his best. To be honest, it's really, really close - but 7DZ touches me more and the song meanings are more relevant to me - and that is the difference to me.

Especially:
In This Night
Ocean
What Do You Want From Life
How Should I Feel (why this wasn't on the US version is a crime IMO)
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Postby masque » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:32 am

Toph wrote:
masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!


no toph....it's called having a preference and good enough ears to know when somebody writes a decent fucking song or not. what if sure aint pieces of eight but it does have some good songs on it and nature of the beast is a good song. go peddle your papers.


That entire albums sucks. There is not one good song on it. So either you have horrible music taste or you are just lifting up the bathwater for your boy Tommy....


yeh that's it toph.....thank sweet jesus you have opened my eyes and made me realize my inability to properly judge good music....in fact, i'm on my way now to dispose of my entire cd collection....toph in you dont mind please send me a list of all the music you own so i can go out and buy the exact same stuff for my new and improved collection complete with outstanding taste in music..?????? please toph will you do that for me?????

just dont send it tomorrow because i'm scheduled to scrub tommy's back during his bath before i drink the left over water in the tub....he prefers that i help wash him prior to me drinking the water.
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Postby Boomchild » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:06 pm

masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:
Toph wrote:
masque wrote:it has a few clunkers on it but I really like "nature of the beast", "what if", and some of the others on there.


And another round of bathwater to masque!


no toph....it's called having a preference and good enough ears to know when somebody writes a decent fucking song or not. what if sure aint pieces of eight but it does have some good songs on it and nature of the beast is a good song. go peddle your papers.


That entire albums sucks. There is not one good song on it. So either you have horrible music taste or you are just lifting up the bathwater for your boy Tommy....



just dont send it tomorrow because i'm scheduled to scrub tommy's back during his bath before i drink the left over water in the tub....he prefers that i help wash him prior to me drinking the water.


That's a little too much information for me! :shock: :)
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Postby Boomchild » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:14 pm

Ash wrote:Anyone who knows anything about me and my time here knows I'm behind DDY 100000%. I love him - go to his shows... and 100 Years is his best work since Paradise Theatre. Conversely, I've been to one Styx show since DDY was kicked out... and I didn't know he was kicked out at the time. And when Gowan sang CSA, I left. (This was 1999).

7DZ is in a different class. It neither sounds like Styx or any other of Tommy's work. Simply put - it's modern music (for it's time) and it works - really, really well. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due... and 7DZ is Tommy at his absolute best. Just like 100YFN is DDY at his best. To be honest, it's really, really close - but 7DZ touches me more and the song meanings are more relevant to me - and that is the difference to me.

Especially:
In This Night
Ocean
What Do You Want From Life
How Should I Feel (why this wasn't on the US version is a crime IMO)


I tend to agree with you except that it's the reverse for me. The songs on OYFN are more relevant to me then the songs on 7DZ. Both are great albums. I bet it was a shock for you when you saw STYX in '99 and out walks Gowan instead of DDY. I knew ahead of time about the DDY booting and went to the show with an open mind and wanted to give the new line up a fair shake. Sadly it didn't do much for me and from that point on they never recaptured my full attention.
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