Why Journey is more successful than Styx

[Monker]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

[Boomchild]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

And without TS and DDY JY would be just another starving musician belting out substandard rock songs in a local bar somewhere. Prime example: His solo career or lack there of.

[Michigan Girl]

I've seen/heard the three above listed as well and I'm having a hard time
w/Tommy being better than SP ...sorry, no!! Dennis is great, but
not even better in my book ...but that's what opinion will get you!!

Of course Tommy is better then Perry. Augeri is better then Perry. JY is better then Perry.

They are better because Perry no longer releases new music or tours...and hasn't for a VERY LONG TIME.

The many times I saw him he was releasing new music as were the others. Beiber is better than Perry too, yeah, yeah
save the boohooing for a different argument !!

[Baron Von Bielski]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

I agree that JY is an important member of the band. He does bring something to the table, but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit.

[Hippie]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

I agree that JY is an important member of the band. He does bring something to the table, but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit.

LOL! Most likely. I just tend to be the Christopher Walken on the board screamin for more cowbell! So many JY haters here! And I do think his contribution to the band is largely overlooked.

[Monker]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

And without TS and DDY JY would be just another starving musician belting out substandard rock songs in a local bar somewhere. Prime example: His solo career or lack there of.

So what? You can say the same thing about EVERY member of Styx. Without the band, none of them would be anywhere. That wasn't the argument. The argument is what JY brought to the band. If you can't admit that he added something good, especially in the earlier albums, then I don't think you are as much of a fan of the music as you pretend to be.

[Monker]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

I agree that JY is an important member of the band. He does bring something to the table, but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit.

I said "to me". It's my opinion that when you remove JY, the music is bland and uninteresting. I'd MUCH rather listen to BNW, or the Wooden Nickel albums, with that overdose of JY then a bland pop album like EotC. Thet is what made Styx interesting to me. Dennis can't do that on his own. And, JY on his own is also uninteresting to me.

[Monker]

I've seen/heard the three above listed as well and I'm having a hard time
w/Tommy being better than SP ...sorry, no!! Dennis is great, but
not even better in my book ...but that's what opinion will get you!!

Of course Tommy is better then Perry. Augeri is better then Perry. JY is better then Perry.

They are better because Perry no longer releases new music or tours...and hasn't for a VERY LONG TIME.

The many times I saw him he was releasing new music as were the others. Beiber is better than Perry too, yeah, yeah
save the boohooing for a different argument !!

There is no argument. Steve Perry hasn't released an album of new music since TBF...15yrs ago. And, he hasn't toured in 17yrs or so. Using Perry as some kind of argument for vocal goodness in the music of today is irrelevant...Perry himself has made sure of that. Just because you saw Perry on some Journey tour, or FTLOSM, does not make him relevant in todays world...That's just a fact. I remember hearing "I Stand Alone" in a preview at a theater...I knew right then that he would never record or tour again. I argued for years with people like you about it...and year after year I've been right.

[Michigan Girl]

I've seen/heard the three above listed as well and I'm having a hard time
w/Tommy being better than SP ...sorry, no!! Dennis is great, but
not even better in my book ...but that's what opinion will get you!!

Of course Tommy is better then Perry. Augeri is better then Perry. JY is better then Perry.

They are better because Perry no longer releases new music or tours...and hasn't for a VERY LONG TIME.

The many times I saw him he was releasing new music as were the others. Beiber is better than Perry too, yeah, yeah
save the boohooing for a different argument !!

There is no argument. Steve Perry hasn't released an album of new music since TBF...15yrs ago. And, he hasn't toured in 17yrs or so. Using Perry as some kind of argument for vocal goodness in the music of today is irrelevant...Perry himself has made sure of that. Just because you saw Perry on some Journey tour, or FTLOSM, does not make him relevant in todays world...That's just a fact. I remember hearing "I Stand Alone" in a preview at a theater...I knew right then that he would never record or tour again. I argued for years with people like you about it...and year after year I've been right.

lol ...and since I wasn't discussing any of the above referenced vocalists in the present tense nor have I seen a FTLOSM show, you aren't arguing
with me now ...you're worse than a game of twister!!

[Boomchild]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

And without TS and DDY JY would be just another starving musician belting out substandard rock songs in a local bar somewhere. Prime example: His solo career or lack there of.

So what? You can say the same thing about EVERY member of Styx. Without the band, none of them would be anywhere. That wasn't the argument. The argument is what JY brought to the band. If you can't admit that he added something good, especially in the earlier albums, then I don't think you are as much of a fan of the music as you pretend to be.

Never felt that JY wasn't an important part to the classic Styx sound. Same with DDY and TS. I do not discount what JY has contributed to Styx. In fact I liked his vocal performances on the WN releases better then what he did in their hay day. I feel that DDY's and TS's talent stands on it's own better then JY's does. Look who A&M was interested for producing solo projects. It wasn't JY. Based on what both DDY and TS contributed to Styx I think it safe to say they would have had a better chance of making it if Styx never happened. I don't feel the same about JY. But this is all hypothetical. I just feel that some give a little too much credit to JY for Styx's success. After all, it wasn't his songs that listeners seemed to be really interested in.

And for the record. In no way am I pretend Styx fan. I been one since I was 10 years old. The current version doesn't do much for me and JY was never what got me interested in the band.

[birdynumnum]

Styx for me was the total package of the three. DDY and TS were the meat and potatoes and JY was the spice. I'm not sure without JY if I would have been as big a fan. For every babe, She Cares, first Time and Sing for the Day, I could rinse my ears with midnite ride, miss america and great white hope and not feel as wimpy. DDY and TS could belt it out also, but JY had more of the hard rock persona and attitude that to me made the band more valid. DDY and TS were probably talented enough to get some other exposure if not for Styx. JY it would be hard to say, but for me he added to the band.

[Baron Von Bielski]

Calling Styx harmonies with JY unlistenable is preposterous. JY does not get enough credit as a singer and is an essential ingredient in the signature harmonies of Styx.

Hahah! Another JY fan in the midst!
That makes two of us now! Our numbers are growing!
Muahahahahah!!!

JY gives Styx their JUEVOS! Without him, Styx would've been Air Supply!

And yes! He is very much the backbone of Styx harmonies (whether people want to admit it or not). DDY and Tommy are awesome, but Styx wouldn't have been Styx without The Beast!

Now if you'll excuse me, I must run! I can hear Froy bounding toward me with a large wet noodle!

I agree with this....Without JY Styx is not worth much to me. The very reason I don't care much for EotC is because there is no where near enough influence by JY. He gives Styx an edge. Without him, Styx is just another pop band.

I agree that JY is an important member of the band. He does bring something to the table, but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit.

I said "to me". It's my opinion that when you remove JY, the music is bland and uninteresting. I'd MUCH rather listen to BNW, or the Wooden Nickel albums, with that overdose of JY then a bland pop album like EotC. Thet is what made Styx interesting to me. Dennis can't do that on his own. And, JY on his own is also uninteresting to me.

I definitely wouldn't disagree with you on anything relating to the Wooden Nickel recordings. His voice fit the style of the music perfectly. People may tend to disagree, but the dynamic between the 3 singer/songwriters worked well on the first 4 albums.