froy wrote:Rockwriter wrote:froy wrote:"bugsymalone
When a group is having the level of success Touring Styx has now
What level is that? This band makes no money touring other than from home made cds and tee Shirts,
The level of touring is an F
That's simply not true. The last time I saw the band was just a few months ago, and it was an absolutely A-level production. And while Styx is not earning what it used to, it's still pulling in $30,000 - $50,000 in fees plus merchandising. That pans out to a really nice income from touring any way you look at it. Hell, I wish I was earning that kind of cash.
Sterling
30 thousand split 10 ways . That's about 3000 each . You wanna be on the road for 11 years in a row making 3000 a night more power to ya. You saw the 8 GI tour yea that was when they went all out with the computer screens, Whats going on today?
You are determined to see this the way you want to see it, which everyone knows. That doesn't line up with reality. They don't split anything ten ways. They pay their crew a straight salary that's reasonable but not that bad, and the side men band members a straight show fee as well, and then the profit participants split the rest. Everyone involved ends up doing well enough. If they didn't, guess what? They'd leave and do something else. For some reason you wish not to see the simple logic of that. Why would anyone who is lucky enough to play music he likes with people he likes, and has a guaranteed salary, ever want NOT to do that? Very few players are in that position. The ones that are, are smart enough to count their blessings and shut up about the parts they don't like. No job is perfect and Styx is just a job. That's all it EVER was. That's all ANY band is. The rest of it is just your perception.
By the way, when you book a big tour, you look at production costs and salaries vs. fees and projected merchandise sales per night, and then you see how many dates it takes to make that, and then you book as many more dates over and above that as it takes to make the margins the principals need to make. You can't look at it one night at a time because it does not give a clear picture. You set up tours so that by a certain number of dates in, the entire overhead is paid, and all of the subsequent dates are clear profit for the band.
Sterling