Andrew vs S2M

[G.I.Jim]

I've got to agree with Sean here.... Andrew's a REAL WANKER!!!

LOL

BTW - That was another cool tune Jim. Forgot to tell you. I;d like to hear you write something like Ask The Lonely - some real uptempo keys....

Thanks, I appreciate it. Will work on it. I'll send you a PM about a separate song I'm working on too. Thanks for checking it out. Now you guys kiss and make up.

[S2M]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

[Andrew]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

Debating again?

[Behshad]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

Debating again?

You said he is the Master of it

[conversationpc]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

I've been a network admin & tech support rep for about 13 years now. These days, it's more of the latter since our office is down to about 4 people.

[S2M]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

Debating again?

Why is making a point deemed 'debating'? I would never tell a biochemist he was wrong, or tell a physicist that he didn't have a grasp on the finer points of gravity. So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

oh, and BTW....who gives a fuck if I complain about sports/officiating? It's in ONE thread, and you don't have to read it if you are THAT offended by what I say....

[Behshad]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

Debating again?

Why is making a point deemed 'debating'? I would never tell a biochemist he was wrong, or tell a physicist that he didn't have a grasp on the finer points of gravity. So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

oh, and BTW....who gives a fuck if I complain about sports/officiating? It's in ONE thread, and you don't have to read it if you are THAT offended by what I say....

NFL thread or NHL thread or [insert any sport name here] thread ?

[conversationpc]

Why is making a point deemed 'debating'? I would never tell a biochemist he was wrong, or tell a physicist that he didn't have a grasp on the finer points of gravity. So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

Because you seem to have about as much of a collection to logic as Obama does to cutting spending.

[Andrew]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

[S2M]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

I don't think so....folks just don't like being told, and subsequently admitting they are wrong. And I wouldn't use 'arrognatly', I'd use 'emphatically'...or 'incredulous'. Again, don't tell me what I know. Cause you never know who you are speaking with.

[Behshad]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

I don't think so....folks just don't like being told, and subsequently admitting they are wrong. And I wouldn't use 'arrognatly', I'd use 'emphatically'...or 'incredulous'. Again, don't tell me what I know. Cause you never know who you are speaking with.

Bingo,

May I ask why we dont get the pleasure to talk to Sean once in a great while.... the Sean I met in Elgin.
Its like you want people to hate you.

[Andrew]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

I don't think so....folks just don't like being told, and subsequently admitting they are wrong. And I wouldn't use 'arrognatly', I'd use 'emphatically'...or 'incredulous'. Again, don't tell me what I know. Cause you never know who you are speaking with.

A) Folks don't like being told by assholes like you. You don't get it. And told what??? They are "wrong" in "your" opinion??

B) Pray tell, do enlighten us as to who we are speaking to when speaking to you?

[Behshad]

B) Pray tell, do enlighten us as to who we are speaking to when speaking to you?

You dont wanna know !

ok here is the list :

Sean
Stockton2Malone
Socratic Methodist
Chaz Bono
S2M
SportGuruSean
MusicExpert
PostalWorkerNewman

[RedWingFan]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

I don't think so....folks just don't like being told, and subsequently admitting they are wrong. And I wouldn't use 'arrognatly', I'd use 'emphatically'...or 'incredulous'. Again, don't tell me what I know. Cause you never know who you are speaking with.

Admit you were wrong to use the word "arrogantly" Andrew!!! Admit it!!!!!

[S2M]

So why am I challenged when I point out errors in logic?

This just proves you don't get it and likely never will.

Your pointing out of "errors in logic" are excatly why you aren't very liked....you do so arrogantly and without any possibility YOU might actually be wrong.

I don't think so....folks just don't like being told, and subsequently admitting they are wrong. And I wouldn't use 'arrognatly', I'd use 'emphatically'...or 'incredulous'. Again, don't tell me what I know. Cause you never know who you are speaking with.

A) Folks don't like being told by assholes like you. You don't get it. And told what??? They are "wrong" in "your" opinion??

B) Pray tell, do enlighten us as to who we are speaking to when speaking to you?

I'm done playing your little game, Drew....you just couldn't delete me. You had to make a huge spectacle of this whole thing. You get what I'm saying, but you need all your little groupies to come out of the woodwork and and follow you around like a little puppy.


You never know who you are speaking with....meaning(not that I'm some celebrity, or some big shot) you don't know WHAT I know, or what my knowledge-base is. Like some slick punk that walks into a pool hall and challenges some scrawny little guy sitting at the bar....kid could be a pushover, but then again he could be some poolshark. You just never know. I could be some weird college student(older) working on a thesis on The Internet: Meta-Analysis and Messageboard Dynamics. I could just be baiting everyone.. You never know.

[Andrew]

A) Folks don't like being told by assholes like you. You don't get it. And told what??? They are "wrong" in "your" opinion??

B) Pray tell, do enlighten us as to who we are speaking to when speaking to you?

I'm done playing your little game, Drew....you just couldn't delete me. You had to make a huge spectacle of this whole thing. You get what I'm saying, but you need all your little groupies to come out of the woodwork and and follow you around like a little puppy.


You never know who you are speaking with....meaning(not that I'm some celebrity, or some big shot) you don't know WHAT I know, or what my knowledge-base is. Like some slick punk that walks into a pool hall and challenges some scrawny little guy sitting at the bar....kid could be a pushover, but then again he could be some poolshark. You just never know. I could be some weird college student(older) working on a thesis on The Internet: Meta-Analysis and Messageboard Dynamics. I could just be baiting everyone.. You never know.

Ok, so you figure you can't win...so you throw a little tantie and sulk off home. See ya.

As for your knowledge base - you try and impress us all on a daily smart just how cleaver you are. Fail.

[S2M]

Ok, so you figure you can't win...so you throw a little tantie and sulk off home. See ya.

As for your knowledge base - you try and impress us all on a daily smart just how cleaver you are. Fail.

There is nothing to win. This isn't a win-lose thing. This is you, and your MR Records/Website ego traipsing a verbal member of your messageboard cummunity out there in the open, and throwing him under the bus in front of all the romans....

[Andrew]

Ok, so you figure you can't win...so you throw a little tantie and sulk off home. See ya.

As for your knowledge base - you try and impress us all on a daily smart just how cleaver you are. Fail.

There is nothing to win. This isn't a win-lose thing. This is you, and your MR Records/Website ego traipsing a verbal member of your messageboard cummunity out there in the open, and throwing him under the bus in front of all the romans....

Oh please....someone else has to help me here? Anyone? Bueler? My raging ego is out of control......arrrrrggghhhhhh...........

Mr. Almighty Greatness, guess what. I'm not banning you. I know that will bug you more. You don't want to post here, then go away. Simple as that. But where else can you be so righteous and correct all the time. You can't help yourself.

[Rip Rokken]

What I dont get is, Sean is a super nice guy in person. I dont understand why he tries so hard to be hated by people on here. I hung out with him at MRF 2 and had a blast. I just wish that he would be more SEAN and less S2M.

I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. Great guy in person, but the S2M "persona" doesn't come off like it's just for fun anymore. Makes me wonder what's really going on inside over there.

Dean and Dan are 10x worse than me....One is on vacation, and the other is AWOL....what does THAT tell you?

Actually, they are not anywhere close. You've developed a humorless sadistic streak in some of your posts that puts you in a different league than either of those guys. You seem to really enjoy hurting people, and Drew's right - you are definitely a "baitor". You say outrageous, ridiculous things just to rile people up and get a response, defend your point to the end, then try to make them out to be the instigator (case in point - this thread). It's bullshit on the highest level, and not only that, it's chickenshit -- really a masterfully crafted blending of the two.

I honestly believe your problem is you think people owe you attention or recognition without you having to do the real work to earn it. It's a type of narcissism. You've attempted to create more "eternal threads" in the past (similar to the "single word game") than anyone else I've seen, and there is a lot that can be read into that. These days, seems like you're basically throwing a perpetual temper tantrum, baiting and insulting people, to force them to acknowledge you.

Hey, I'm no doctor, but several things in this list of symptoms kinda seem to fit your bill (italics mine):

A person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder may:

*React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation

*Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals

*Have excessive feelings of self-importance

*Exaggerate achievements and talents

*Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love

*Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment

*Need constant attention and admiration

*Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy (uhh, ya think?!?)

*Have obsessive self-interest

*Pursue mainly selfish goals

Another common trait is the absolute inability for such a person to acknowledge any of this in themselves.

[Andrew]

Actually, they are not anywhere close. You've developed a humorless sadistic streak in some of your posts that puts you in a different league than either of those guys. You seem to really enjoy hurting people, and Drew's right - you are definitely a "baitor". You say outrageous, ridiculous things just to rile people up and get a response, defend your point to the end, then try to make them out to be the instigator (case in point - this thread). It's bullshit on the highest level, and not only that, it's chickenshit -- really a masterfully crafted blending of the two.

Thanks Rip. I'm glad it's not just myself that sees right through this and is tired of it. But I doubt S2M will see the light, rather just put you down to being another "asskisser", which you certainly are not. I respect your opinions (expect on Don Dokken!!) and this is another example of why.

[Rip Rokken]

Thanks Rip. I'm glad it's not just myself that sees right through this and is tired of it. But I doubt S2M will see the light, rather just put you down to being another "asskisser", which you certainly are not. I respect your opinions (expect on Don Dokken!!) and this is another example of why.

Wow... way to stab me right in the freaking heart and twist the knife, "Bro"!!!



No, seriously - it's understandable when someone's being genuine, even genuinely bad -- at least you know where you stand with them. But I don't have a great deal of patience for those who try to mask their actual agenda so they can play mind games with decent people just for the sport of it. S2M has probably read too many Batman comics and fancies himself a brilliant villain like the Joker or Riddler.

I still hold out hope for the guy I met in Elgin - enjoyed hanging out with him. I just hope he doesn't turn out to be a serial killer.

[YoungJRNY]

I've pinned S2M down because I'm one of the one's who met him in person. I've said numerous times in the NFL THREAD that he turned himself into a 'gimmick poster' and he knows it. It's kind of a message board/forum/internet personal and those who get rowed up in his whereabouts, loses. I've been victim many times because it's impossible to debate somebody with such a subjective and arrogant attitude of words. Me and S2M spent some cool-concert and tattoo time together and I enjoyed his company, wish we could of extended the time into a booze night and just hang. That said, he's good at what he does here: GET UNDER THE SKIN OF PEOPLE, haha.

[verslibre]

S2M has probably read too many Batman comics and fancies himself a brilliant villain like the Joker or Riddler.

[Red13JoePa]

...and I've NEVER been banned from this board.

That's too bad, if true.

Wow...quite the lemming, Dave. Never expected it from you.

It doesn't have anything to do with being a lemming. You think you're smarter than anyone else here and vocalize it fairly often, argue simply for the sake of arguing, and generally make a nuisance of yourself by CONSTANTLY whining about poor refereeing and how no one else gives new music a chance. Get over it already!

Can I ask you a question? What is your vocation?

Debating again?

[conversationpc]

You've developed a humorless sadistic streak in some of your posts that puts you in a different league than either of those guys. You seem to really enjoy hurting people, and Drew's right - you are definitely a "baitor". You say outrageous, ridiculous things just to rile people up and get a response, defend your point to the end, then try to make them out to be the instigator (case in point - this thread). It's bullshit on the highest level, and not only that, it's chickenshit -- really a masterfully crafted blending of the two.

[Michigan Girl]

I'm a huge non~fan of the gang bang. But I see good points on both sides.

1.) I Love Sean, he is an incredibly fun and funny human ...and I may not know this if I hadn't met him!!
2.) He makes his points, which he is entitled to, in an unusal manner ...which is probably a turn~off to some/most, yes!!
and
C.) This place is so mild compared to what it used to be that anyone who can't handle it now belongs in nursery school ...or
whatever Dave said.

[conversationpc]

C.) This place is so mild compared to what it used to be that anyone who can't handle it now belongs in nursery school ...or
whatever Dave said.

Seriously, though...I've enjoyed most of my interaction with Sean on here and I really don't want to see him go. However, the others here do have points. He seems to argue for the sake of arguing regardless of if he's right or wrong (something Monker is famous for) and unnecessarily provoke others (case in point, this thread).

[KenTheDude]

I'm a huge non~fan of the gang bang. But I see good points on both sides.

1.) I Love Sean, he is an incredibly fun and funny human ...and I may not know this if I hadn't met him!!
2.) He makes his points, which he is entitled to, in an unusal manner ...which is probably a turn~off to some/most, yes!!
and
C.) This place is so mild compared to what it used to be that anyone who can't handle it now belongs in nursery school ...or
whatever Dave said.

A,B,3......as easy as 1,2,C.

[conversationpc]

I'm a huge non~fan of the gang bang. But I see good points on both sides.

1.) I Love Sean, he is an incredibly fun and funny human ...and I may not know this if I hadn't met him!!
2.) He makes his points, which he is entitled to, in an unusal manner ...which is probably a turn~off to some/most, yes!!
and
C.) This place is so mild compared to what it used to be that anyone who can't handle it now belongs in nursery school ...or
whatever Dave said.

A,B,3......as easy as 1,2,C.

Good catch.

[S2M]

C.) This place is so mild compared to what it used to be that anyone who can't handle it now belongs in nursery school ...or
whatever Dave said.

Seriously, though...I've enjoyed most of my interaction with Sean on here and I really don't want to see him go. However, the others here do have points. He seems to argue for the sake of arguing regardless of if he's right or wrong (something Monker is famous for) and unnecessarily provoke others (case in point, this thread).

Hmmm....Sometimes I'll throw funny/joking jabs. Like when I kid with Deb about EM, or MB. But mainly it is because I, like every other human being on this planet, have opinions on things. As far as 'tone' goes - well that's just my posting style. I take issue with the charge that I argue for the sake of arguing.

FYI, let's be honest here....Drew changed the title of this thread to get more traffic in here and stir the shit. It was a rather innocuous thread before that. Just Kgdjpubs and I discussing a group we like.....then Drew has to go ego-trippin' on me, excitingly pointing out that he is the resident music expert(that doesn't need history lessons). And takes my comments as a personal affront to his manhood, I guess...

Also, to the person who takes issue with the threads i start - maybe I'd just like some serious chat every once in a while. Some of this banal stuff drives me crazy after a bit. And the topics that I would tend to want to talk about just inherently lend themselves to chapping at least ONE person in a negative way. You can't please everyone. So I'm either left with the very lame response of the lone emoticon reply(which I find quite ghey), or choosing not to reply to anyone specifically - choosing, instead, to just post general things and keep out of board politics. Or just leave altogether.