OFFICIAL 2012-2013 NFL Thread

[AR]

Garrett Reid was sentenced to two years in a state drug rehabilitation program in July 2008 after being caught with 89 prescription pills inside his rectum at the Montgomery County Prison. He was in the county prison on charges related to a January 2007 car crash that seriously injured a woman

WTF?

[Liam]

Seahawks may sign TO.

[YoungJRNY]

[Liam]

On the plus side of this deal....what wideouts do the Seacocks have?

[mikemarrs]

WEEK 1 – AUGUST 9-13
Green Bay at San Diego (ESPN, 8/9)
Dallas at Oakland (ESPN, 8/13)
Arizona at Kansas City
Baltimore at Atlanta
Cleveland at Detroit
Denver at Chicago
Houston at Carolina
Minnesota at San Francisco
New Orleans at New England
NY Giants at Jacksonville
NY Jets at Cincinnati
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia
St. Louis at Indianapolis
Tampa Bay at Miami
Tennessee at Seattle
Washington at Buffalo



Feels good football finally upon us.

[Liam]

I'm gonna have to try to get the Ravens/Falcons game on one of my sites. I want to see how the starting OLB's do without Suggs.

[Liam]

Andy Reid back at camp a day after his son's funeral. I couldn't do it...I'd be a wreck for years.

[conversationpc]

Andy Reid back at camp a day after his son's funeral. I couldn't do it...I'd be a wreck for years.

They showed some footage from the funeral and also showed one of the Eagles execs speaking to the press and he was having a harder time keeping it together than how they reported Andy Reid himself was doing.

[Liam]

You know I'm probably the biggest Eagles hater out there, but I'm actually gonna go for 'em tomorrow out of respect. One preseason game won't hurt. Besides...they're playin' Shitsburgh.

[conversationpc]

You know I'm probably the biggest Eagles hater out there, but I'm actually gonna go for 'em tomorrow out of respect. One preseason game won't hurt. Besides...they're playin' Shitsburgh.

Hmmm...Yeah. Tough one to figure out who to root against there!

[Liam]

I enjoy watching both teams lose. If only that could happen in one game. And I don't mean tie.

[YoungJRNY]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

[Enigma869]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Couldn't agree with you more. Preseason football blows and means absolutely NOTHING. I'll watch, because football runs through my veins, but it's impossible to draw any conclusions given that most of the guys playing won't even make the team! As for the Patriots, they were actually 2-2 in the preseason in 2007. That said, they have gone 0-4 in the preseason and won the Super Bowl, so again...it means absolutely nothing!

[Ehwmatt]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Is DeCastro starting? Word is he's the disappointment of the camp so far. If so, that would make me happy. I was so pissed when you guys got him/that the Browns didn't make a run at him (took Weeden instead). I thought I read he was behind an undrafted third-year OL right now.

[Ehwmatt]

Andy Reid back at camp a day after his son's funeral. I couldn't do it...I'd be a wreck for years.

I can't stand the people judging Andy Reid for going back to work. I don't think I'd come back so soon, but then again, it's also very hard for me to imagine what it would be like in his SPECIFIC situation. This is more than just "my kid died." The kid was a long-time addict and clearly had some major problems. Maybe it was so inevitable that it just hit him a different way. It's a lot different from having your perfect little honor student get killed in a car wreck or something. I'm not saying there's no grief, but the way you are ready to handle the 2 situations is probably different.

[Ehwmatt]

So Big Ben has a slight rotator cuff tear that wont heal on it's own. Apparently he has to play with it and hope it doesn't completely tear. He's hardly even throwing in training camp because of it. Seems Ben is one hard throw or one sack on the shoulder from being out for the year.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/s ... tator-cuff

I'm starting to get pretty tired of Ben's constant preening about injuries. I won't deny the guy is a tough son of a bitch and a great QB, and to be sure, he's had some tough injuries/taken tough hits, but I really think he enjoys milking some of these injuries for all their worth.

[Ehwmatt]

The Cleveland Browns suffered their first major injury of training camp and it could be a "huge hit" to their defense.

The Browns fear that outside linebacker Chris Gocong injured his Achilles and is out for the season, sources told the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Gocong, who was carted off the field, will undergo an MRI on Saturday.

"It would be a huge hit," linebacker D'Qwell Jackson told the Plain Dealer. "Chris is a great player."

I think Jimmy Haslam III might be calling Randy Lerner to ask for a refund pretty soon. Taylor and Gocong are done for at least most of the year (Gocong definitely done for the year, Taylor done for most of it). Then today, Haden is reportedly suspended for 4 games for drugs (reportedly, adderoll--wtf?) and Trent Richardson is flying out to Florida to have the same knee scoped AGAIN that he had scoped in February.

I was never that into the Trent Richardson draft pick (as usual, the idiot Cleveland fans around here drank the kool-aid). I thought the guy looked very average in college against good teams, he's had some injuries, and he's a goddamn RB for christ's sake. All that aside, I didn't like taking a RB that high anyway. He's got a low shelf life by virtue of position, and now the son of a bitch's knee has been scoped twice in 6 months before playing a single NFL down? I don't like it.

Anyway, I hope I'm totally wrong on Richardson. But I just have not had a good feeling about the pick from the start. It's going to be a rough start to the year with a pretty tough schedule (on paper though, and we all know how that goes), and if things are really ugly, I wouldn't be surprised to see Haslam send Shurmur, Holmgren, and Heckert packing by week 6 this year. I think (barring an unforeseeably great season by the Browns) that the only guy who has a chance long-term of surviving this ownership change is Tom Heckert.

I'm already mentally preparing myself for yet another detonation of the organization.

All that said, I can't fucking wait for week 1! This time of the year in sports (basically, from July 4, i.e., when Wimbledon ends through mid to late August) is particularly awful for me. It's even worse with these shitty Olympics on. That has to be the dumbest, most over-hyped thing in the entire world. I can't stand watching that shit (even the few sports I like), and I can't stand the deluge of phony human interest stories that they tell about every single fuckin athlete.

[Enigma869]

I'm starting to get pretty tired of Ben's constant preening about injuries. I won't deny the guy is a tough son of a bitch and a great QB, and to be sure, he's had some tough injuries/taken tough hits, but I really think he enjoys milking some of these injuries for all their worth.

I actually couldn't agree with you more, Matt. Ben needs to shut his fucking pie hole and play football. Brady has surgery at the end of every season and you never once hear the guy talk about a single injury that may be nagging him. If you're out there on the field, play football! I've always respected Ben, but this Brett Favre side of him is fucking puke-inducing. Not really the right road to go down, in my opinion. The guy comes across as needing to have a built in excuse if he sucks, and I've never been a fan of guys like that!

[conversationpc]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Couldn't agree with you more. Preseason football blows and means absolutely NOTHING. I'll watch, because football runs through my veins, but it's impossible to draw any conclusions given that most of the guys playing won't even make the team! As for the Patriots, they were actually 2-2 in the preseason in 2007. That said, they have gone 0-4 in the preseason and won the Super Bowl, so again...it means absolutely nothing!

I'll go even further and say that I can't stand watching preseason football (or the All Pro game, for that matter). I'd rather watch a lacrosse match.

[Liam]

I watch preseason for two reasons...
1. I like having a game on after months of waiting
2. I basically put my "scout" hat on, and guess who's going to make it or not.

Not GREAT reasons, but they work.

[YoungJRNY]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Is DeCastro starting? Word is he's the disappointment of the camp so far. If so, that would make me happy. I was so pissed when you guys got him/that the Browns didn't make a run at him (took Weeden instead). I thought I read he was behind an undrafted third-year OL right now.

DeCastro AND Mike Adams (who has shown outstanding ability and athleticism at LT for a man his size) will both start for the Steelers starting offensive units tonight. If this disappointment came from the first 2 days of camp where he lost a couple one on one battle's in lineman foot-work drills then I guess so, but since then, he's been all but advertised. Pouncey said DeCastro is straight up cold-blooded and has a face of stone, not cracking one smile the entire time and reminds him of a drill-sergeant in intensity.

Pouncey also said DC is very smart and is 3 times along the process than he ever was as a rookie. The only thing that DeCastro is struggling with is the physicality of going against professionals. He has the mental part down, but with reps, will come the physical side of things so that's no worry whatsoever, hence, PRE-SEASON.

Must suck to hear about Richardson's knee + possible suspension for Joe Haden, though. After 13 years since their expansion, Cleveland still can't catch a break.

[Liam]

Andy Reid back at camp a day after his son's funeral. I couldn't do it...I'd be a wreck for years.

I can't stand the people judging Andy Reid for going back to work. I don't think I'd come back so soon, but then again, it's also very hard for me to imagine what it would be like in his SPECIFIC situation. This is more than just "my kid died." The kid was a long-time addict and clearly had some major problems. Maybe it was so inevitable that it just hit him a different way. It's a lot different from having your perfect little honor student get killed in a car wreck or something. I'm not saying there's no grief, but the way you are ready to handle the 2 situations is probably different.

I'm not judging at all. I'm just wondering how he could. Like I said....I'd be fucked up for years.

[Liam]

READY TO ROLL????

[Ehwmatt]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Is DeCastro starting? Word is he's the disappointment of the camp so far. If so, that would make me happy. I was so pissed when you guys got him/that the Browns didn't make a run at him (took Weeden instead). I thought I read he was behind an undrafted third-year OL right now.

DeCastro AND Mike Adams (who has shown outstanding ability and athleticism at LT for a man his size) will both start for the Steelers starting offensive units tonight. If this disappointment came from the first 2 days of camp where he lost a couple one on one battle's in lineman foot-work drills then I guess so, but since then, he's been all but advertised. Pouncey said DeCastro is straight up cold-blooded and has a face of stone, not cracking one smile the entire time and reminds him of a drill-sergeant in intensity.

Pouncey also said DC is very smart and is 3 times along the process than he ever was as a rookie. The only thing that DeCastro is struggling with is the physicality of going against professionals. He has the mental part down, but with reps, will come the physical side of things so that's no worry whatsoever, hence, PRE-SEASON.

Must suck to hear about Richardson's knee + possible suspension for Joe Haden, though. After 13 years since their expansion, Cleveland still can't catch a break.

Hmm, this story is from 2 days ago (i.e., long after the first 2 days of training camp):

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... physically

Perhaps the biggest disappointment of Steelers training camp has been the struggles of first-round pick David DeCastro.

Considered the best guard prospect to come out of college in a decade, DeCastro has failed to beat out Ramon Foster, who went undrafted three years ago, for the starting right guard spot.

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger asked DeCastro whether he was having more difficulty with the mental or physical part of the game. "He said, ‘The mental part I got. The physical is a lot tougher. These guys are really good,'" Roethlisberger told the Beaver County Times.

DeCastro still might end up starting at right guard in Thursday's preseason opener at Philadelphia because left guard Willie Colon is dealing with an ankle injury. That would move Foster from right to left guard, opening the right guard spot for DeCastro.

Foster made it clear that he isn't conceding the starting job to DeCastro.

"You don't want to just passively give away your starting role," Foster told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "This is a world championship team, you want to be a guy starting on that team. We're both going to get better no matter who wins the job. We'll just handle that at the end of camp. Is there a sense of urgency? Definitely. I think it's there for Dave, too."

[Ehwmatt]

I wouldn't mind seeing Drew Brees have his shoulder permanently removed from his body this year. That guy has quickly skyrocketed into my top 5 sports douchebags with his behavior regarding his contract and all his BountyGate quotes. I used to respect the hell out of this guy. Now? One of my most hated athletes.

[YoungJRNY]

A lot to like if you're a Steelers fan BESIDES fucking injuries God DAMMIT! Other than that, offense opens up with a very nice, well-timed offense that seems to be TIGHTLY put together. Worlds apart from Arians's SLOP.

Lengthy first drive that took up over 10 minutes of clock. Defensive first time on the field saw a beastly sack by McClendon on Vick and Vick calling time out for being confused as fuck. Nice production from the offense considering we have 2 rookies on the offensive line, to which Adams got beat about 4 times, but it's what you want to see. LEARN

[YoungJRNY]

It doesn't matter to me if Pittsburgh loses 86-0 so the haters can get their fill. Besides, pre-season (ESPECIALLY the first game) is for these young kids to make an impression and try to stay alive for atleast another week while the veterans work out the rust (didn't New England in '07 go 0-4 in the preseason? They only went on to rattle off 18 straight wins, haha.)

I'm going to enjoy watching rookies David DeCastro, Mike Adams (who are BOTH starting on Pittsburgh offensive line) and Sean Spence than I am Big Ben & Troy Polamalu, who will play a whopping 1 series.

Going to be fun watching these young guys go out there and prove their worth the name on the back of their jersey, not the final score.

Is DeCastro starting? Word is he's the disappointment of the camp so far. If so, that would make me happy. I was so pissed when you guys got him/that the Browns didn't make a run at him (took Weeden instead). I thought I read he was behind an undrafted third-year OL right now.

DeCastro AND Mike Adams (who has shown outstanding ability and athleticism at LT for a man his size) will both start for the Steelers starting offensive units tonight. If this disappointment came from the first 2 days of camp where he lost a couple one on one battle's in lineman foot-work drills then I guess so, but since then, he's been all but advertised. Pouncey said DeCastro is straight up cold-blooded and has a face of stone, not cracking one smile the entire time and reminds him of a drill-sergeant in intensity.

Pouncey also said DC is very smart and is 3 times along the process than he ever was as a rookie. The only thing that DeCastro is struggling with is the physicality of going against professionals. He has the mental part down, but with reps, will come the physical side of things so that's no worry whatsoever, hence, PRE-SEASON.

Must suck to hear about Richardson's knee + possible suspension for Joe Haden, though. After 13 years since their expansion, Cleveland still can't catch a break.

Hmm, this story is from 2 days ago (i.e., long after the first 2 days of training camp):

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... physically

Perhaps the biggest disappointment of Steelers training camp has been the struggles of first-round pick David DeCastro.

Considered the best guard prospect to come out of college in a decade, DeCastro has failed to beat out Ramon Foster, who went undrafted three years ago, for the starting right guard spot.

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger asked DeCastro whether he was having more difficulty with the mental or physical part of the game. "He said, ‘The mental part I got. The physical is a lot tougher. These guys are really good,'" Roethlisberger told the Beaver County Times.

DeCastro still might end up starting at right guard in Thursday's preseason opener at Philadelphia because left guard Willie Colon is dealing with an ankle injury. That would move Foster from right to left guard, opening the right guard spot for DeCastro.

Foster made it clear that he isn't conceding the starting job to DeCastro.

"You don't want to just passively give away your starting role," Foster told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "This is a world championship team, you want to be a guy starting on that team. We're both going to get better no matter who wins the job. We'll just handle that at the end of camp. Is there a sense of urgency? Definitely. I think it's there for Dave, too."

I went to camp AND I have an Steelers-insider with literally play by play camp updates & DeCastro has both gotten beat AND mauled people. He struggles in line-drills. In scrimmages, he's a natural born killer. DeCastro isn't Alan Faneca just yet, no. He's a rookie, he's young and he needs to adjust. It happens. He's had a nice camp and has really came on. I love our first 2 picks, camp and preseason are for these guys. No Steelers rookie offensive lineman has ever started for Pittsburgh in quite some time in its history. DeCastro and Adams will be the first in decades.

[Liam]

So...going for Philly in a meaningless game STILL made me sick. Never again.

R*I*P Garrett

[Liam]

[Liam]

Dumbshit

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... line_stack