OFFICIAL 2012-2013 NFL Thread

[Enigma869]

Romo is an interception throwing machine..

Shocking that the Cowgirls would puke on their cleats in another huge game. What a fraud of a team. Precisely why I picked the Redskins to win.

[mikemarrs]

FINAL NFL 2012 Melodic Rock Pigskin Pickems:

1. YoungJRNY: 169
2. Fact Finder: 167
3. Jonny B: 161
4. mikemarrs: 158
5. JohnFromBoston: 156

congrats!!! had a lot of fun and can't wait to do it again next season.

[RPM]

Pretty Damn impressive turnaround for the Redskins, from 3-6 to win the division.
And they are fun to watch, better on defense then I thought, and the Kid can throw to boot.
Who is this Morris guy? wow he was on fire!

Its time for the Lovie Smith era to end in Chicago. Yes he puts together a winning team.
He cannot however make / lead a championship team, some of his personnel choices are baffling.
Wasted time outs, HORRIBLE clock management...but they will probably just change offensive
coach Tice and let Lovie Dovie play out last year of deal...

Speaking of being a winner and not a champion, sounds like Tony Romo.

Should be a great playoff game Seahawks & Redskins, is there a clear favorite there?

The Packers are going to waste the Vikings at Lambeau.

I dont know what to make of the Texans anymore.

[YoungJRNY]

I forgot Liam again, haha

Final standings:

1. YoungJRNY: 169
2. Fact Finder: 167
3. Jonny B: 161
4. mikemarrs: 158
5. JohnFromBoston: 156
6. Liam: 153

[Liam]

I'm 6th....I don't mind that you forgot me. LMAO

[Jonny B]

I forgot Liam again, haha

Final standings:

1. YoungJRNY: 169
2. Fact Finder: 167
3. Jonny B: 161
4. mikemarrs: 158
5. JohnFromBoston: 156
6. Liam: 153

I knew all those Thursday and Monday misses would bite me in the end. But I finished with my 2 best weeks all year and had a solid season for a rookie. lol!

[Jonny B]

Playoffs are set. My predictions:

Vikings vs. Packers -- Adrian Petersen shredded the Packers for over 400 yards over 2 Division games, but I doubt Christian Ponder can pull a second straight 3 TD game. Packers win when it counts.

Seahawks vs. Redskins -- What the Skins have done to get to this point has been incredible, but the Seahawks are the better all-around team in all aspects. Seahawks win on the road.

Colts vs. Ravens -- Ravens are slumping at the worst possible time. I pick them hesitantly only because they are my Super Bowl pick, but a Colts pick could easily be the upset special of this round.

Bengals vs. Texans -- Same deal with the Texans, who have lost 3 of 4 to close the season. Of the teams who've made the playoffs, this is the best possible match-up to right the ship, and so I choose the Texans.

[Memorex]

Playoffs are set. My predictions:

Vikings vs. Packers -- Adrian Petersen shredded the Packers for over 400 yards over 2 Division games, but I doubt Christian Ponder can pull a second straight 3 TD game. Packers win when it counts.

Seahawks vs. Redskins -- What the Skins have done to get to this point has been incredible, but the Seahawks are the better all-around team in all aspects. Seahawks win on the road.

Colts vs. Ravens -- Ravens are slumping at the worst possible time. I pick them hesitantly only because they are my Super Bowl pick, but a Colts pick could easily be the upset special of this round.

Bengals vs. Texans -- Same deal with the Texans, who have lost 3 of 4 to close the season. Of the teams who've made the playoffs, this is the best possible match-up to right the ship, and so I choose the Texans.

Vikings; Seahawks; Colts; ?

[mmberry301]

Don't mean to hijack thsi thread but I couldn't find the one where some of us decided to participate in a Melodic rock FFL league this year on Yahoo.

Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed it and appreciate everyone who played

Hope we will do it again next year..

Mark's Mookids

[Enigma869]

Colts vs. Ravens -- Ravens are slumping at the worst possible time. I pick them hesitantly only because they are my Super Bowl pick,

The only way the Ravens are getting anywhere near the Super Bowl is if they purchase tickets to the game! Rule number one in the playoffs...always pick the teams with superior QB's, the deeper into the playoffs you get. I'd rank Flacco dead last on the list of QB's of the AFC teams who made the playoffs.

[Jonny B]

Colts vs. Ravens -- Ravens are slumping at the worst possible time. I pick them hesitantly only because they are my Super Bowl pick,

The only the Ravens are getting anywhere near the Super Bowl is if they purchase tickets to the game! Rule number one in the playoffs...always pick the teams with superior QB's, the deeper into the playoffs you get. I'd rank Flacco dead last on the list of QB's of the AFC teams who made the playoffs.

Oh yeah that's right! They don't have Trent Dilfer anymore, do they?

They've won 1 playoff game in each of the past 4 years, at the expense of overachieving teams (Miami in '08, Kansas City in '10) or against injury-riddled teams (Patriots in '09, when Welker went down, and the Texans in '11 when said team was down to their 3rd string QB.) Luck & the Colts fall under the 'overachieving & inexperienced' category. I'll take the law of averages and say the Ravens will win at least 1 playoff game again this year.

[YoungJRNY]

The Colts are putting together one helluva run and even though they may not be equipped enough to go far, they have the tools to pull an upset and if it would be any game for them to win, it would be Baltimore, next week so I'm taking the high-flying Colts in a dramatic upset victory over the Ravens and witness them bow out of the divisional round at New England or Denver.

[YoungJRNY]

Not sure. I'll look into it to see if it's ongoing. If not, we'll just resort back to the board pickems and tally up in February.

[YoungJRNY]

Not sure. I'll look into it to see if it's ongoing. If not, we'll just resort back to the board pickems and tally up in February.

Cool, I need to catch your ass.


What's the word with James Harrison, I hear his days in the 'burgh are numbered?

Harrison will be back for a final season & said he'll reconstructure if he has to. Him and Troy are disappointed they didn't take care of business earlier in the season on the defensive side of the ball because they both mentioned to being the healthiest of their career going into this off-season. They are already putting together workout duties and changing things here and there so they don't end up on the injury side of things. Polamalu said his knee injuries were something along the lines of people falling on his legs. With his calf, he blamed himself for not doing the proper training. They will both be back. As for others, tough decisions for the Steelers front office. They will get younger defensively across the board.

[Enigma869]

They've won 1 playoff game in each of the past 4 years, at the expense of overachieving teams (Miami in '08, Kansas City in '10) or against injury-riddled teams (Patriots in '09, when Welker went down, and the Texans in '11 when said team was down to their 3rd string QB.) Luck & the Colts fall under the 'overachieving & inexperienced' category. I'll take the law of averages and say the Ravens will win at least 1 playoff game again this year.

Just so I'm VERY clear, I never claimed that they couldn't win one playoff game. I absolutely agree that they can and should beat the Colts. Your point on the Colts is absolutely spot on. Anything from here on out is gravy for that team. Beyond Luck, their team isn't really that good. I'm just not a Flacco guy, AT ALL. Dude is a douchebag of a human being whose mouth is far bigger than the talent he possesses!

[Ehwmatt]

They've won 1 playoff game in each of the past 4 years, at the expense of overachieving teams (Miami in '08, Kansas City in '10) or against injury-riddled teams (Patriots in '09, when Welker went down, and the Texans in '11 when said team was down to their 3rd string QB.) Luck & the Colts fall under the 'overachieving & inexperienced' category. I'll take the law of averages and say the Ravens will win at least 1 playoff game again this year.

Just so I'm VERY clear, I never claimed that they couldn't win one playoff game. I absolutely agree that they can and should beat the Colts. Your point on the Colts is absolutely spot on. Anything from here on out is gravy for that team. Beyond Luck, their team isn't really that good. I'm just not a Flacco guy, AT ALL. Dude is a douchebag of a human being whose mouth is far bigger than the talent he possesses!

I have been Tiki Barber-flabbergasted at the constant showering of praise on Flaccid. My disdain/low opinion of his skills is well-documented here throughout the last several seasons. I've never seen a quarterback do less and get praised more. At least Tony Romo puts up gaudy numbers from time to time. Flaccid rarely does even that.

[Ehwmatt]

Not in Baltimore they won't. The hatred level will be off the charts for the Colts. If they still had Manning maybe, but you have no idea how hostile the crowd will be.

Am I the only one who finds this hilarious? Baltimore fans are mad because they feel Indianapolis stole their team? Really? Does the name Cleveland Browns mean anything to you? Classic.

I don't blame people from Baltimore for being pissed that the Colts were stolen away from them and moved.
And I don't blame them for having wanted to get another new NFL team back in the 90's.
But the absolutely most hypocritical thing is how some people from Baltimore acted like that sack of shit Art Model was some kind of hero for stealing the Browns from Cleveland and moving them to Baltimore. We in Cleveland didn't want to turn around and steal some other cities team away from them. We fought to get an expansion team, keep our name and team colors and our records from the past.

Art Model was a true piece of shit, and if I believed that bad people go to hell when they die, I would be convinced that Art Model would be roasting in hell right now.

I think I've asked Ed about this before and he actually gave a somewhat sensible rationale for the seeming paradox. But maybe I'm imagining things. At any rate, I have no sympathy for Baltimore fans. None whatsoever. And their team blows ass anyway.

Honestly, I was too young to really remember and perceive the issues at play when the Browns moved (shit, I was . But as the years have gone by and more little details have emerged from time to time, I do think there were two sides to the story: Modell's and the Cleveland politicians/business people charged with starting the Gateway project. I don't think we'll ever know the full story, much like we'll never know the full story of the Penn State debacle (who did what to whom, who said what to whom, and who knew what and when etc). I've studied a lot of stuff. I've listened to politicians' and business figures' interviews both then and in more recent years. I've also listened and read stuff from Art Modell.

I think the most rosy picture that could possibly emerge of Modell was that he was a woefully incompetent businessman. But that would be worlds better than the dominating portrait that's painted right now, i.e., a conniving, lying, backstabbing team stealer who furtively hightailed it out of the city in the middle of the night and took said city's team with him. I will say this: I don't think Modell would have ever moved the Browns if the NFL was the dominating commercial force in pro sports that it is today back in the 90's. He simply wouldn't have needed to do so.

[Enigma869]

Vikings vs. Packers - I admire what the Vikings and Adrian Peterson have done this season. I don't think the Vikings are that talented of a team and don't believe any team is winning with Christian Ponder at QB. I'd also give Peterson the MVP this season. Having said all of that, this game will be a different game for the Vikings. They actually have to get out of the dome and play in real weather conditions at the worst NFL stadium for weather. The Packers are the better team and win this one. Packers by 14.

Seahawks vs. Redskins - I love everything I've seen out of RG3 this season. From what I can see, his only real challenge as an NFL QB is that he is going to have to stop taking the hits he's taking, or it will be a short career. The momentum is on the Redskins side, and the Seahawks are a VERY different team away from home. It's hard for me not to like this Seattle team. Even though I think they're going to be a challenged road team, I like them in a close game here. Seahawks by 4.

Colts vs. Ravens - Easily the toughest game of the weekend for me to pick. The Colts are a limited team who have had a remarkable season. It once again illustrates how much emotion factors into the sport of football. They've all rallied around Pagano, but that will only take them so far. I'd give Arians the "Coach of the Year" Award (yes, he is eligible). This Ravens team doesn't scare me, even a little. I'd take any QB in the AFC playoffs over that blowhard Flacco. I'm not sure what to expect out of Baltimore's aging defense. Their defensive unit simply hasn't been good this season. I'm giving the Ravens a very slight edge in this game, based on the home field alone. Ravens by 3, but I would not be remotely surprised to see the Colts win this game.

Bengals vs. Texans - The Bengals are a team and an organization who I've just never been able to respect. I think they're always a dangerous team in a way that any team with a legit NFL QB (and I think Dalton is that) and a stud receiver (AJ Green is definitely that). The Texans are in a very interesting position entering the playoffs this season. Everyone will pick them as a team ripe to be upset. Most think they tanked it down the stretch and can't be taken seriously in the playoffs. Teams who everyone is betting against are always very dangerous (ask the 2007 Giants). In spite of the Texans play down the stretch, they're still a good team. Texans by 10.

[Liam]

W/C weekend....

AFC
CIN/HOU Texans
IND/BAL Ravens

NFC
MIN/GB Pack (don't see 'em losing 2 in a row.)
SEA/WAS Seacocks

[YoungJRNY]

Checked into the Pig-skin Pickem's, the picks end on the note of the regular season so we won't be able to use that software on the site. We'll just resort back to the old way of picking and tally them up at the end of each game/week (some of you made your picks already) so I guess for a playoff schedule, everyone is 0-0!

[slucero]

Looks like Andy Reid going to the Cards

[AR]

Ravens Ray Lewis to retire after the season.

Huge deal in my hometown. This hangs on the wall in my basement. You can see me in the reflection.

[tater1977]

Ravens Ray Lewis to retire after the season.

Huge deal in my hometown. This hangs on the wall in my basement. You can see me in the reflection.

Love this guy..reminds me of an old Alex Karras...

[AR]

[Liam]

Looks like Andy Reid going to the Cards

Sayin' Chiefs today...so who knows?

[YoungJRNY]

Seems like Mike Tomlin really is under a hot mess in Pittsburgh right now. From the ear-lashing from last season to get rid of Arians, to hiring a OC that not only the team doesn't understand OR the franchise QB, to now granting Todd Haley permission to interview for the Chiefs HC job today. Interesting developments. I really do hope that this transition period the Steelers are going through is well worth their franchise QB in his prime years. We'll see if anything happens in Steel Town. The Steelers have had the talent on offense for years to become top 5 in the league, especially in scoring and they can never seem to pull it together. I'd like to see the offense flourish and finish top 5 in scoring for once.

[mikemarrs]

AFC
CIN/HOU Bengals
IND/BAL Ravens

NFC
MIN/GB Packers
SEA/WAS Seahawks

[YoungJRNY]

That's what I meant, Cardinals. I was just briefing the article where it said Andy Reid was interviewing for the Cards too but is also close to signing to the Chiefs so I got all that mixed up. So much happening already haha.

[Enigma869]

The Steelers have had the talent on offense for years to become top 5 in the league, especially in scoring and they can never seem to pull it together. I'd like to see the offense flourish and finish top 5 in scoring for once.

Their not as talented on offense as you think they are. I'll grant you that Ben is an above average QB. That said, he's not Aaron Rodgers, and never will be. Mike Wallace (who I was VERY high on when he came into the league) isn't proving to be what I thought he could be. Their running game is non-existent. Again, it's a middle of the road offense. Nothing remotely special about it.

[YoungJRNY]

The Steelers have had the talent on offense for years to become top 5 in the league, especially in scoring and they can never seem to pull it together. I'd like to see the offense flourish and finish top 5 in scoring for once.

Their not as talented on offense as you think they are. I'll grant you that Ben is an above average QB. That said, he's not Aaron Rodgers, and never will be. Mike Wallace (who I was VERY high on when he came into the league) isn't proving to be what I thought he could be. Their running game is non-existent. Again, it's a middle of the road offense. Nothing remotely special about it.

Aaron Rodgers, I think, has every single tool there is to be the perfect quarterback. He has it all. He has a ROCKET arm, pin-point accuracy, durability, toughness, can move outside of the pocket, run for first downs and roll-out with the best of them. I believe when all said and done, Rodgers will be one of the most gifted QB's to play the game. Ben and Rodgers share a lot of traits but I agree, Ben will never be Rodgers. Nobody will. I'll take Ben as is. We know who he is, love his style, and couldn't ask for a better QB to lead my team givin our circumstance and style of mindset.

Point blank, the Steelers need a QB that can make things happen when things break down, and Bens perfect in our role. The Steelers have the talent and your mimicking what I'm saying in a nutshell. They are a middle of the road offense but they can be better. Haley was brought in to be more rhythmic and move the chains in the dink and dunk approach. That all went to shit when the entire oline got hurt, all our RB's, our QB's and WR's went down.

The Steelers continue to struggle taking advantage of their personal grouping. It's stupid not to take FULL advantage of the talent you have. Mike Wallace is one-trick. He's a deep threat burner, possessed speed-demon to beat you with world class speed on the outsides. Haley had him running 5 yard dig routes and curls all season.

That's not takin' advantage of weapons. Teams like New England run their offense to the up-most strength of their supporting cast. The Steelers are forcing things that aren't there. They need to focus on their talent, think what they do BEST and give Ben the reigns and freedom to breakout and not try to pound a round peg in a square hold trying to re-live the Bettis years.

We just LACK direction and it shows. Ben can take this offense to top 5. We just need to hand him full throttle and bring someone in here that understand how we want to attack and be who they are week to week.