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brywool wrote:First Listen:
Overall opinion (keep in mind this is the first spin):
This is a great album and SUPER ambitious for Styx. They get high marks for that. While I don't think it's the second coming of "the big two", there are definitely points that do hit that lofty goal.
One bitch: the Production to me is super dry throughout and that's not a quality that I dig with my STYX stuff. It NEEDS that reverb/delay to help give it that "STYX SOUND". My opinion, but I grew up (and old) with the band. If this came out in the 90s, I'd get why they dried things out so much, but STYX isn't a grungy band. For me, Cyclorama's production was more 'lush'. One other comparison to Cyclorama - I'm finding that Gowan's tracks are the standouts.
I caught the interview with Tommy the other day about how he explains the characters that each bend member is playing- Tommy as the pilot, Lawrence as the first officer, JY as the naysayer, the others as scientists or something like that (I forget), so I do get that these are 'character pieces' which is an ok idea, just as ok as it was on 'Kilroy Was Here'. BUT - I knew the concept of KWH, so it made sense. To those that didn't know, it was "What the heck is THIS??" Not sure that'll happen with 'The Mission', but it could.
Keep in mind, I'm listening online as I don't have the CD (with the book, etc.) in my hand... will have it later tonight.
Overture:
This is a cool way to open the album and super proggy for Styx, which is great. As a piece of music, I like it. The one thing that immediately strikes me is how DRY the production is. I would think for an 'Overture' that it'd have a 'Bigness' to it that could've been brought to the track via a bit of delay and reverb.
Gone Gone Gone:
Great track. Gowan sings the crap out of it. Nice to hear Styx kicking into high gear and nice to hear JY and Tommy's guitars just going for it. Radio seems so void of guitars that I find myself going through withdrawal symptoms...
Again, I'm struck by how dry the track sounds. It's STYX so I expect a bit more production.
Hundred Million Miles:
Pretty stripped down and straight ahead rock track. Again, the highest harmony here is a bit overkill (and I'm a sucker for good harmonies). They've got some chorus on Tommy's voice, but again, super dry. Some of the harmonies seem like they don't cut off at the same time. As a song, it's got a good vocal hook in the chorus.
Trouble at the Big Show:
I think this one is from the Dr. Righteous Outtake Reel (and I actually like Heavy Metal Poisoning and that character too). JY... sometimes I love him to death and sometimes I find him annoying as hell. When I don't like him, it's usually vocal related. JY is a great harmony singer. If you want to see how much he brings to the party, listen to his solo album "City Slicker" and listen to the harmonies on it. His harmony singing is a HUGE part of the Styx sound and is a necessary component. But man, when he does his lower "Double Life" voice, I find it completley and utterly dopey. I'd rather have a "Captain America" or "These Are the Times". This one's a wah-covered, bluesy track with some cool harmonies and a good guitar solo. But I can't get past JY's lead vocal and am thankful that there's only one JY-led track here.
Again, the production on the vocals drives me nuts. It's dry but it's also wrapped in chorus, which I don't dig and was one of the reasons that I HATED the Regeneration albums.
So far, this is a track that I will be skipping with repeated plays. It might grow on me.
Locomotive:
Beginning is a bit like "Shine On You Crazy Diamond". Okay... NOW it sounds like STYX to me, at least the beginning. The production is so much better here. The vocals aren't layered in chorus and there's a nice reverb on Tommy's vocal that brings it out. Tommy's voice... man, he's got such great pipes. Some cool bass parts from Ricky Phillips here too. Great harmonies in it that are reminiscent of the "Papa Papa's" in "This Old Man". I like this track. I don't know how 'catchy' or 'STYX' it is. It seems that STYX is not going for 'mass appeal' on this track but just for music to fit their concept. When the band kicks in, again, all of the production seems to be rolled off and everything is super dry again. Just gives it a home-demo quality.
Radio Silence:
Yup... 'Man in the Wilderness II'. The bass line, acoustic, and keyboards at the beginning are SO similar... even the guitar break in the middle is similar. The verses are totally evocative of the image of being a solo guy in a space ship so far away from the planet. Great chorus here and very 'STYX' to me. When listening to it in the context of the album, it's definitely a standout.
The Greater Good:
Oh man, I love Gowan on this track. He puts in a brilliant vocal here. The chorus is a bit flat for me and not 'Styx Big' but it's not really that kind of track.The verses are superb. It's such a 'Gowan track'. The track is actually a duet between Larry and Tommy and it comes off brilliantly - a back and forth conversation between their characters. A bit of 'Queen' creeps in, which, again, is so 'Gowan'. So far, this is my favorite track. Those that give Gowan a hard time for not being DeYoung- it's a ridiculous statement. He's so worthy of his position in the band. He brings a LOT to the party.
Time May Bend:
Another Gowan lead vocal and a good one. A proggy beginning that jumps into main track. The harmonies are a bit loud in the mix and, of course, dry. The guitar solo is great. Is that an Ebo?
Ten Thousand Ways:
This is a little segue with great harmonies.
Red Storm:
I dig the radio messages that they've sprinkled into this album. Helps to set the mood of the concept. Tommy on acoustic guitar here (noticing lots of acoustic on this album- cool!). Another very proggy track and reminiscent of the middle of "A Day" from 'Styx II' just in its feel once it gets going. This is typical EARLY Styx. Starts slow, gets fast, good chorus. Good track. The guitar solo section is very much like Rush from the 'Hemispheres' days (which is a favorite Rush album of mine). This is a super ambitious track for Styx. Kind of like this album's "One With Everything".
All Systems Stable:
A segue. Not really a song.
Khedive:
Again, Gowan shining with this piano piece that also has acoustic guitar and strings and some harmonies that intrude a bit (my opinion). Nice Brian Mayish solo. COMPLETE Queen. This guy is such a good player.
The Outpost:
Another Gowan-led track. This one's a great one too! The beginning reminds me of 'Camera Eye' (another Rush track). HUGE chorus. I actually got chills when that kicked in. Very 'YES-ish' chorus. This is a great track. Very big sounding and so 70s. It's a total high point. This should be a single. It's very cool and very very catchy. This is one of those songs that actually meets the hype "This is definitely as good as any Pieces of Eight or Grand Illusion track".
Mission to Mars:
Piano based track and again with a heavy prog influence. This doesn't sound like Styx to me, it's (again) like early Yes or even Crosby Stills and Nash in some points. It's like all of this stuff has been tossed into the pot and stirred up. It's way cool and SOOOO different for Styx.
I give it 4 1/2 stars out of 5.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Still on the fence about picking this up today. Appreciate the review.
RumTumJM wrote:
Interesting take on the album. Some of your particular points, I noticed myself, prior to reading this (the harmonies not totally matching up on Hundred Miles, the lacking chorus on Greater Good, exceptionalism of The Outpost.) Overall, though, I can tell that this is a grower!
RumTumJM wrote:Boy do I wish Trouble At The Big Show and, especially, Time May Bend were longer and more developed. That, and I wish Greater Good had a slightly stronger chorus.
Overall though, a return to form for the band. I'm thinking it would be cool if they played some of this stuff in a medley type form. Maybe Khedive right into The Outpost.
FormerDJMike wrote:Thanks for posting Bry, I would give an in depth review too but just don't have the time. So far I like it a lot and am pleased with it. Interestingly, I like the production on this better than Cyclorama. I thought some of Cyclorama had buried vocals and sounded thin. But there are also those that hate Kevin Shirley's production on Maiden and I love his Maiden work.
I agree on Hemispheres. I heard that too! I was hoping something more from JY in the vain of Midnight Ride and his track is ok. I like the chorus but it is more of a blues song than a rock song.
Will get repeated listens. The clear vinyl should be at home by the time I leave work today. Looking forward to playing the record and looking over the notes and pics.
FormerDJMike wrote:Playing The Outpost now on earbuds and I like it a lot. I don't feel Camera Eye here, I feel The Motels. The percussion on the intro kind of reminds me of "Suddlenly, Last Summer". And that's not a bad thing, I like The Motels haha.
masque wrote:Bry after that review there is no need for me to do a review because I agree with about 95% of what you said. overall, I am very happy with what i am hearing and because it involves a band i love so much I know I need to give it time to make sure I dont overreact to what I am hearing in over praising or under praising because of my pre-conceived expectations.
FormerDJMike wrote:No vinyl yet my wife hid it til Father's day.
FormerDJMike wrote:Can't wait to look for the hidden photos/Easter eggs. Someone told me the vinyl has "welcome to 1979" in the dead wax. Pretty cool.
FormerDJMike wrote:The Outpost is prob my favorite but I also really enjoy 10,000 ways. And when you listen to it as a whole it flows very well that you really don't notice the tracks are short.
Fact Finder wrote:S2M wrote:I've listened to it 9 times already, so I can't be accused of selling it short. But that's exactly what I'm going to do anyway.
Cyclorama puts this to shame, sorry. There is nothing remotely decent on this release. The song structures are entirely too bland, stagnant, and go absolutely nowhere. Take off the vocal tracks, and this is a GREAT album....that's about all I can say about this release. And I REALLY wanted to like it.
You have too much time on your hands!
Fact Finder wrote:Ok, I'm not gonna say I don't like it, (after 1 spin), I do like the music and sounds I hear, however....
brywool wrote:Fact Finder wrote:Ok, I'm not gonna say I don't like it, (after 1 spin), I do like the music and sounds I hear, however....
I think as a "STYX Album" that Cyclorama is the more accessible of the two. It's more catchy. More 'hit radio' sounding. With The Mission, I think you have to view it a it differently...
Kind of like what you said about The Beatles. You had 'Rubber Soul" then "Revolver" - each song could've been a single. Then "Sgt. Pepper" came out. There really wasn't a 'single' on that album (hence Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields). I think "The Mission" is a similar thing (though, at it's best, Pepper was barely a concept album and The Beatles'd be the first ones to say that). It kind of needs to be taken as a whole.
I've listened to the album about 15 times now. I find something new to like each time I hear it. I'm enjoying it for music's sake as opposed to "I don't hear a single". I think it's a really good accomplishment. It would've been nice to have one more heavy rocker on it, but I'm okay with it as it stands. "Everything All the Time" would've fit nicely on this album with re-recorded symphonic parts. ("There's a crack in the universe...")
Fact Finder wrote:ChicagoSTYX wrote:Side 2 of the album is the best side 2 of any past Styx album!
I like your enthusiasm but no, it's not. It is and will always be side 2 of Equinox.
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