They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

More expert Liberal logic.....

[S2M]

More expert Liberal logic.....

There is absolutely NO logic in her statement. BUT...republicans get welfare as well.

Our roads, bridges, and infrastructure in this country are pitiful. I thought Obama had a roads project going during his tenure.

A bridge near my city had work being done to it for 19 years! a four lane bride was down to 2 for the entire time. And then was painted( that took 3 years!) . It's all well and good to keep up with this stuff, but it can't take years upon years, and there needs oversight. If the monies are allocated for infrastructure, it can't disappear into politicians' pockets.

[Boomchild]

Hope Trump gets fed up with this soon.

http://freedomdaily.com/barack-just-bro ... umps-back/

Somehow I highly doubt anything will become of this. It would be up to the AG to investigate and bring such charges. Keep in mind that your talking about bringing charges against a former POTUS and the first African American one. Then add in the current racial tensions in the U.S.. I wouldn't doubt that the establishment would be using Obama in this fashion. Former President Carter has met in the same fashion with foreign leaders and dignitaries and nothing was said or done with those events.

[Boomchild]

I thought I would share this video since there has been quite a bit of talk here about Trump's ability (or lack of) foreign policy. If you know Lionel, he was part of the radio talk show network Air America which was anything but "right wing" or "conservative". In general, his views and opinions are liberal leaning. Even so, I think that he is fair and balanced when talking about politics. Here he is talking about Trump's foreign policy and I think he is dead on. TRIGGER WARNING to progressives, liberals and snowflakes: Your most likely not going to like what he has to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wznBKDVSeYs

[S2M]

I thought I would share this video since there has been quite a bit of talk here about Trump's ability (or lack of) foreign policy. If you know Lionel, he was part of the radio talk show network Air America which was anything but "right wing" or "conservative". In general, his views and opinions are liberal leaning. Even so, I think that he is fair and balanced when talking about politics. Here he is talking about Trump's foreign policy and I think he is dead on. TRIGGER WARNING to progressives, liberals and snowflakes: Your most likely not going to like what he has to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wznBKDVSeYs

Pretty devoid of anything profound here. Other than him saying Trump is a 'rock star' about 40 times.

And btw, Trump didn't beat Bernie.

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

[S2M]

Democrats ruined Detroit as well....I did some research(imagine that).

[scarab]

Democrips AND Rebloodicans have ruined this whole nation.
Only a independent will make "America Great Again".
Would have voted for Trump if he ran as an independent. But he lacks the balls to (Just like Hilary)
Well im sure she has a longer dick though.

[Monker]

Would have voted for Trump if he ran as an independent. But he lacks the balls to (Just like Hilary)
Well im sure she has a longer dick though.

And, bigger hands.

[Boomchild]

‘Black Lives Matter’ Leader Accuses Hollywood of Depicting Black People as Apes

‘Black Lives Matter’ leader Deray McKesson was left embarrased after he claimed that a toy manufacturer and Hollywood in general were depicting black people as apes, only to later delete the tweet when his attempt at race baiting was hilariously exposed.



https://www.infowars.com/black-lives-ma ... e-as-apes/

[Monker]

President Donald Trump targeted former FBI Director James Comey Monday for allegedly including classified information in personal memos describing his conversations with the president.

Trump’s tweet follows a late Sunday night report from The Hill that four of nine Comey memos included classified information at the secret or confidential level.

Comey’s removal of classified information from his office could put him in breach of FBI protocols that clearly state FBI agents “will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”

This is fake news from the President and Fox News, and FF:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-fox-fri ... 17478.html

I watched the Comey testimony. He was very particular about the memo he leaked, ensuring it was not classified. He did not use government equipment, it was not written while on the clock. It does not contain classified information.

Therefore, the President, FOX, and FF are spreading fake news.

[Boomchild]

I don't know why these Yahoo links don't work. According to the story, the little pigmy was walking around outside when they tested the ICBM and we had a clear shot at him and didn't take it.

One word. China.

[steveo777]

https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/

<cough> CLINTON <cough>

Lock her up!

[Monker]

Wow, pretty silent here. So, mini-Trump releases a string of Email showing Russia wanted to give him damaging info on Clinton. His response is "love it!" And, he actually met with the contact at Trump tower to get the info

But, of course, there is no collusion here. Nobody talked to the Russians about this. It's all a big lie.

Sure it is. Keep believing that. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. --- are all in the shit now. At this point, I have to wonder if anybody on the Trump team DIDN'T meet with the Russians.

[Monker]

Wow, pretty silent here. So, mini-Trump releases a string of Email showing Russia wanted to give him damaging info on Clinton. His response is "love it!" And, he actually met with the contact at Trump tower to get the info

But, of course, there is no collusion here. Nobody talked to the Russians about this. It's all a big lie.

Sure it is. Keep believing that. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. --- are all in the shit now. At this point, I have to wonder if anybody on the Trump team DIDN'T meet with the Russians.

Not really. It's the same old shit that caused you to go silent when your sources had to pony up to lying. Another nothing burger by next week, but it does keep the positive things out of the news. That's the idea, isn't it?

That is the very definition of denial. You have Mini-Trump DOCUMENTED expressing a desire to work with Russia against Clinton. PERIOD.

THAT IS COLLUSION.

Who is the source for this? Donald Trump Jr. LOL HE is the one who released the Emails...admittedly after knowing the press were going to make them public anyway. The point is: You can't say this is funky press trickery because the info comes from Jr. himself.

There is no "positive news". The only positive news is the INSANE idea of partnering with Russia for the stupid idea of the stupid cyber hacking patrol was taken back by Trump. What an IDIOT.

[Memorex]

Wow, pretty silent here. So, mini-Trump releases a string of Email showing Russia wanted to give him damaging info on Clinton. His response is "love it!" And, he actually met with the contact at Trump tower to get the info

But, of course, there is no collusion here. Nobody talked to the Russians about this. It's all a big lie.

Sure it is. Keep believing that. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. --- are all in the shit now. At this point, I have to wonder if anybody on the Trump team DIDN'T meet with the Russians.

Not really. It's the same old shit that caused you to go silent when your sources had to pony up to lying. Another nothing burger by next week, but it does keep the positive things out of the news. That's the idea, isn't it?

That is the very definition of denial. You have Mini-Trump DOCUMENTED expressing a desire to work with Russia against Clinton. PERIOD.

THAT IS COLLUSION.

Who is the source for this? Donald Trump Jr. LOL HE is the one who released the Emails...admittedly after knowing the press were going to make them public anyway. The point is: You can't say this is funky press trickery because the info comes from Jr. himself.

There is no "positive news". The only positive news is the INSANE idea of partnering with Russia for the stupid idea of the stupid cyber hacking patrol was taken back by Trump. What an IDIOT.

Yawn. I mean, doesn't every campaign do opposition research?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... n-on-trum/

And does it ever mater where it comes from? In any case, she was not someone that was a representative from the Russian government, she had no information to harm Hillary (usually collusion would require some form of data I imagine), she was with Obama's Ambassador to Russia a few days later, and she was spotted at an anti-Trump rally after that.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07 ... mp-jr-mtg/

One of my best friends is Russian. If i was running as dog catcher and she had information on my opponent, damn right I would sit down with her. Hell, find out who paid for the fake Trump Dossier and see who you want to throw in jail.

This is the biggest nothing of all the nothings out there.

Besides all of that, collusion in a political campaign is not illegal.

Edit: Oh I forgot this - http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/u ... ire-233446

[S2M]

Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax TV on Tuesday that "I don't see a crime" in Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting last year with a lawyer with ties to the Russian government.

"Even if there was coordination, even if the worst-case scenario as far as we know now is the Russians getting in touch with Trump Jr. and saying: 'We have some dirt on Hillary Clinton. Come. We'll give it to you,'" he told Miranda Khan on "America Talks Live" in an interview.

"And he goes and gets the information.

"That's what The New York Times did in the Pentagon Papers. That's what The Washington Post did and many other newspapers did with information from [Edward] Snowden and [Chelsea] Manning.

"You are allowed legally to use material that was obtained illegally, as long as you had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining the information.

"So, at the moment, I see no legal jeopardy for Trump Jr.," Dershowitz concluded, "but of course we have to know more facts.

"Simply using the material that you know was obtained illegally is not at the moment regarded as a crime.

"It would be wrong to prosecute somebody for that non-crime."

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

[Memorex]

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

If you knew they were stolen, of course it's illegal. I have to ask though, what illegal information did Trump Jr get? I haven't heard. Should be interesting.

Anyway, information is not property. As it said, Snowden may go to jail, but anyone that uses the info won't.

What is it you disagree with here? You think People did not approach Hillary?

Personally, I think the whole thing was a setup. The crime itself is the setup. So be careful how badly you want this investigated.

[S2M]

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

If you knew they were stolen, of course it's illegal. I have to ask though, what illegal information did Trump Jr get? I haven't heard. Should be interesting.

Anyway, information is not property. As it said, Snowden may go to jail, but anyone that uses the info won't.

What is it you disagree with here? You think People did not approach Hillary?

Personally, I think the whole thing was a setup. The crime itself is the setup. So be careful how badly you want this investigated.

I'm not debating individuals, nor am I dropping names. I'm merely debating that lone point, quoted by Dershowitz.

You say information is not property, yet I can't go into a hospital...and get medical information on anyone...nor walk into Walmart, and ask to see Jane Doe's employment folder at Human Resources. And no one can, not even at the government level obtain a person's Tax returns without the actual permission of the individual.

But information isn't 'property', right?

[JBlake]

http://archive.is/DSaLA

"Collusion" is generally defined as "a secret agreement or cooperation for an illegal or deceitful purpose."

So far I don't see where Trump and/or any of his connections attempted to do something illegal or deceitful. Basically the only thing we got so far out of this is there was an interest in getting some corruption information about Hillary. If this is collusion then I'd say everyone who's a law enforcement detective is guilty of collusion and all those cases they solve and prosecute should then be tossed out. Right? The Dems and libs are one great big joke that never stops.

[JBlake]

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

If you knew they were stolen, of course it's illegal. I have to ask though, what illegal information did Trump Jr get? I haven't heard. Should be interesting.

Anyway, information is not property. As it said, Snowden may go to jail, but anyone that uses the info won't.

What is it you disagree with here? You think People did not approach Hillary?

Personally, I think the whole thing was a setup. The crime itself is the setup. So be careful how badly you want this investigated.

From what I've been reading, there was actually nothing passed on to him during that meeting.

[S2M]

http://archive.is/DSaLA

"Collusion" is generally defined as "a secret agreement or cooperation for an illegal or deceitful purpose."

So far I don't see where Trump and/or any of his connections attempted to do something illegal or deceitful. Basically the only thing we got so far out of this is there was an interest in getting some corruption information about Hillary. If this is collusion then I'd say everyone who's a law enforcement detective is guilty of collusion and all those cases they solve and prosecute should then be tossed out. Right? The Dems and libs are one great big joke that never stops.

The difference between law enforcement, including detectives, and campaign runners - and this is a salient point that should be fucking obvious...and please, try and keep up -

One is trying to stop, or solve a crime...and the other is trying to win an election. And secondly...if the information that the Trump campaign received was so damning, and illegal - why didn't they use the info to nail her ass, instead of using it selfishly in order to win the presidency?

[Memorex]

I'm not debating individuals, nor am I dropping names. I'm merely debating that lone point, quoted by Dershowitz.

You say information is not property, yet I can't go into a hospital...and get medical information on anyone...nor walk into Walmart, and ask to see Jane Doe's employment folder at Human Resources. And no one can, not even at the government level obtain a person's Tax returns without the actual permission of the individual.

But information isn't 'property', right?

What is the difference between your examples and political information. My company makes millions and millions of dollars a year because of HIPPA laws. Certain information is protected by specific laws. Very specific laws. For example, I could put your phone number all over the internet if FF gave it to me. I could even list your address, your place of employment, what you had for dinner last night, your sexual orientation, who your friends are, and what your mother's maiden name is. All personal, none of it protected.

[S2M]

I'm not debating individuals, nor am I dropping names. I'm merely debating that lone point, quoted by Dershowitz.

You say information is not property, yet I can't go into a hospital...and get medical information on anyone...nor walk into Walmart, and ask to see Jane Doe's employment folder at Human Resources. And no one can, not even at the government level obtain a person's Tax returns without the actual permission of the individual.

But information isn't 'property', right?

What is the difference between your examples and political information. My company makes millions and millions of dollars a year because of HIPPA laws. Certain information is protected by specific laws. Very specific laws. For example, I could put your phone number all over the internet if FF gave it to me. I could even list your address, your place of employment, what you had for dinner last night, your sexual orientation, who your friends are, and what your mother's maiden name is. All personal, none of it protected.

And that is the difference between Psychological Egoism vs. Ethical Egoism. IS vs. OUGHT.

Thanks for proving my point.

[Memorex]

I'm not debating individuals, nor am I dropping names. I'm merely debating that lone point, quoted by Dershowitz.

You say information is not property, yet I can't go into a hospital...and get medical information on anyone...nor walk into Walmart, and ask to see Jane Doe's employment folder at Human Resources. And no one can, not even at the government level obtain a person's Tax returns without the actual permission of the individual.

But information isn't 'property', right?

What is the difference between your examples and political information. My company makes millions and millions of dollars a year because of HIPPA laws. Certain information is protected by specific laws. Very specific laws. For example, I could put your phone number all over the internet if FF gave it to me. I could even list your address, your place of employment, what you had for dinner last night, your sexual orientation, who your friends are, and what your mother's maiden name is. All personal, none of it protected.

And that is the difference between Psychological Egoism vs. Ethical Egoism. IS vs. OUGHT.

Thanks for proving my point.

what is the existential vacuum and does it come with attachments?

[JBlake]

http://archive.is/DSaLA

"Collusion" is generally defined as "a secret agreement or cooperation for an illegal or deceitful purpose."

So far I don't see where Trump and/or any of his connections attempted to do something illegal or deceitful. Basically the only thing we got so far out of this is there was an interest in getting some corruption information about Hillary. If this is collusion then I'd say everyone who's a law enforcement detective is guilty of collusion and all those cases they solve and prosecute should then be tossed out. Right? The Dems and libs are one great big joke that never stops.

The difference between law enforcement, including detectives, and campaign runners - and this is a salient point that should be fucking obvious...and please, try and keep up -

One is trying to stop, or solve a crime...and the other is trying to win an election. And secondly...if the information that the Trump campaign received was so damning, and illegal - why didn't they use the info to nail her ass, instead of using it selfishly in order to win the presidency?

No information was passed off from the woman during the meeting apparently.

[Boomchild]

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

Ask the Clintons. When Bill & Hillary vacated the WH they helped themselves to art works, furniture and curios that were government property. Only to return them after being ordered to do so.

[JBlake]

Am I also allowed to possess this stolen 80" TV, and surround sound system...even if I had nothing to do with the illegal nature of obtaining those items?

Ask the Clintons. When Bill & Hillary vacated the WH they helped themselves to art works, furniture and curios that were government property. Only to return them ordered to do so.

Yeah, they also found one of the moon rocks that was brought back during one of the moon walk missions back in the late 60's in one of Bill and Hillary's file cabinets.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-rock- ... 6R20110922