brywool wrote:Caused by the last R administration, which is, pretty much how all of those end.
It's like some only think in two dimensions. Republican and Democratic. It was caused by a completely corrupt government. Full of establishment politicians who have been the puppets of the globalist elite. Who wnat nothing more then to bring down the U.S. in order to reorganize the world into a new order where they control everything. Now if you want talk about track records of a specific party, look no further then major cities around the country that have been under democratic control for decades. They have been failing for years and more and more are getting into the territory of collapsing on themselves. But the point you were trying to push was that the Obama administration's policies and actions was the major reason for pulling us out of a recession. Which it wasn't. It was the Federal Reserve's actions. Which operates independently from the federal government.
brywool wrote:She won the popular vote. So they were actually correct. Electoral College strikes again, as it did with W.
Never said he didn't. But it wasn't exactly "the voice of the people". That was my point.
The system worked the way it was designed to. Do you understand the type of government that this country was founded upon? It is setup as a Republic and not a Democracy. Meaning it's not a system where "majority rules". It was designed to give the minority fair representation. Hence the reason for the electoral college. It seems as of late, every time the democrats lose they cry foul. It was "Hanging Chads" with Bush\Gore and now it's "We've Been Hacked". It's apparent form your responses on this subject that you don't agree with the electoral college part of our system. Which is fine. But, then do something about it if you don't. Start a committee or organization to call for reform of our election system. You do realize that the Constitution has a clause in it that allows for the citizens to create amendments to it without the need for Congress or the Senate to pass them? Lastly, if you are concerned so much about the "voice of the people", then you should focus some of your energy on holding the DNC and the Clinton campaign accountable for colluding to steal the Democratic Primary from Bernie.
brywool wrote:I never said "nothing is going to change". Don't know where you got that.
Didn't say you did. My point was I have heard just about all the opinions about his cabinet choices. They are all over the place. Do I agree with them all? No. But that is the way it goes.
brywool wrote:"See what Happens"??? Great!
"Hey, the pilot has had a heart attack in the cockpit and the plane is going down. Is there a Pet Shop owner on board that could maybe fly the plane?"
"But I'm not a pilot!"
"Well, we'll just see what happens".
Great thinking there...
Let me spell it out for you. I voted for Trump because I agreed with the policies and positions he presented and not those of the other candidate. As I said, Trump is a "unknown quantity" as a politician. Based on the circumstances I was willing to take the risk. Maybe you wouldn't and that's fine. I am willing to wait and see if he sticks to what he said he was going to do. If he doesn't then I will be critical where he doesn't.
brywool wrote:The reality is that from DAY ONE the guy has been a blatant liar that has had nothing but scandals chasing him. Even before he got in - How many lawsuits did he have going in? Tons. The guy's character and demeanor are not suited for the Presidency. Funny, you like him cuz he's not PC. As soon as people call him and his admin on their bullshit, they get the "Snowflake" tag. I'm not PC about him, I know he's a shitbag and so does most of thinking America not to mention the other nations around the world. Russia's the only one sticking up for him. Great! So in 6 months, he's done nothing, but he's had a ton of scandal and embarrassment. Yes... let's give him more time, it can only get better. It certainly couldn't get any worse... oh wait, I've been saying that from day one and it's not really worked out.
The scandals and lawsuits are all to be expected when you have the establishment and the globalists concerned about losing their influence and power over the Presidency. They have and will continue to throw everything at him to try and make something stick. As many have said here, NAME THE CRIME.
brywool wrote:WHAT POLICIES??? He has none. The Wall?? Oh great... yeah, let's protect us from the Mexicans "stealing our jobs" - I hope you don't really believe that.
The executive of order to halt travel from areas known to have terrorist activity.
His policy to review and change our vetting process for those looking to enter the country.
His policy to get out of the "nation building" business and focus on our domestic issues.
His policy to end or renegotiate our poor trade deals.
His policy to end the U.S. paying more then it's fair share in the U.N..
His policy of getting NATO partners to pay what they agreed to.
His policy of not giving our military protection for free.
His policy of not relocating Syrian refugees to the U.S. but instead finding ways to keep them in their own land and culture.
His policy of ending the former lawmakers going to work for lobbyists and special interest groups.
His policy to end the "career politician syndrome" we have in our government.
As far as the border wall, yes I expect him to follow through to secure our borders. By whatever means necessary. To be a sovereign nation, you need to have your borders secure. It's not a difficult concept. Now I am sure it may be difficult for those that feel we should have all access, open borders. But that is not my problem to solve.
brywool wrote: I wasn't for Hilary either, but faced with her or him, there's no way I was going to pick that guy.
That's your choice and nobody should hold that against you. It's a gift that the founding father's gave you the ability to have. But like you everyone else has theirs.
brywool wrote:No, it's not your job, but I do not get the fascination or loyalty to this guy and why people think THIS is the way out for America. I don't get why ANYONE would look at this guy and say "That's the guy who's going to turn America around. That's the guy who's going to be a great leader for the US". Not even. He's set our country back years in just 6 months.
Any time I've asked someone to tell me what's so great about him, they can't.
And this is why I said it isn't my job to tell you what to think or feel about Trump. It's plainly clear that no matter what one would say, your opinion and positions on Trump is set in stone. So any further discussion on it is moot.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." George Washington