They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[S2M]

And I see you just can't help but fall victim to your JV grasp of logic.

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

And I see you just can't help but fall victim to your JV grasp of logic.

Last time I heard the term "JV" was when Obama referred to ISIS as the "JV team" of Islamic Terrorists. We all know how that worked out.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And make no mistake about it. The world, if it didn't already think this country was a pitiful joke, thinks so now. The president is the face of the country. And because Trump won, other countries attribute the characteristics of the leader of a country to its people.

Russia allegedly preferred Trump over Hillary. Are they a part of the world or not? More important, why are you so interested in foreign countries meddling in our affairs? I think you need to be investigated...

[slucero]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

Trump is reported to be worth 5 to 10 billion, has skyscrapers, casinos and golf clubs the world over and owns his own 757 and Helicopters. And is now POTUS. You post pot shots on a message board in Tasmania. Tell me more about intellect hot shot.

Well...again, your logic fails you. Those Duck Fucks are worth millions, and dumb as shit. Money doesn't make you smart - especially when you inherit it. Next...Dubya was president, and about as bright as a Dragon glass. So intelligence doesn't make you president. I could win a billion dollars from a Powerball jackpot - wouldn't mean I was smart.

See the difference in responses between Memorex's, and yours? Yours is the same illogical, poorly thought out, banal rhetoric you've been spewing since forever. When are you Trump sycophants going to reply with actual policy issues, and examples of substance - instead of merely saying 'He's the POTUS, deal with it' or 'Hillary...blah...blah....blah'?

Your political acumen is about as relevant as your ability to pick NFL winners on a weekly basis.

To be factually accurate... Trump inherited 1/4th of a real estate portfolio worth about $200 million.


There is some skill involved in returning $5 Billion (10,000% return) to $10 Billion (20,000% return) on $50 million...

[Monker]

S2M, watch Trumps speech from tonight in Youngstown, Ohio. He told you exactly why he doesn't act Presidential. Because it's an ACT!

And, then he said he was the most Presidential president ever, next to Lincoln.

The guy is a nut.

[Monker]

There is some skill involved in returning $5 Billion (10,000% return) to $10 Billion (20,000% return) on $50 million...

It's called manipulating the truth, outright lying, and hiding the facts.

With all of the lying Trump has done, I won't believe he is even worth $1 until he releases his tax returns.

[Monker]

F.F. beat me to breaking story #1. that the MainStream Media will try to cover up. Here's the other one.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... ma-era-nsa

Here is anothe story on F.F.'s post.

http://www.newslogue.com/debate/655/BaileyT.Steen

Trumps son in law kicked ass yesterday. Funny, where'd all that bullshit go?

Worry about Obama is not going to change the fact that Mueller is investigating Trump. You would be better off worrying about that fact then worrying about what Obama is being accused of in conservative press.

As for Kushner, so what. Not too long ago these speaches were about no contacts with Russia, no meetings with Russians, and no collusion, and fake news. The "fake news" and lies were coming from the White House by people like Kushner. We have gone from lying about the previous to now saying "no law was broken". Yeah, OK...that is what Mueller is determining...not the people being investigated who have repeatedly lied about it.

[Monker]

"S2M wrote:
And make no mistake about it. The world, if it didn't already think this country was a pitiful joke, thinks so now. The president is the face of the country. And because Trump won, other countries attribute the characteristics of the leader of a country to its people."

Make no mistake about it, Russia, China Syria, Libya,Iran, ect made Obama their bitch.

Trump has essentially become the court jester when world leaders meet. He can't be taken seriously. He is someone people laugh at instead of take serious. He is a clown who knows a few tricks on how to distract morons from the reality of the world for a few minutes...and that is all the depth there is to him.

[Monker]

And I see you just can't help but fall victim to your JV grasp of logic.

You didn't fall victom, as usual, it was simply over your head.

Actually, JV is giving you too much credit. Gradeschool is more you'ish.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Trump has essentially become the court jester when world leaders meet. He can't be taken seriously. He is someone people laugh at instead of take serious.

Both Monker and S2M are the self-appointed spokespersons for the world now. Too funny.
I still remember when Dubya won re-election, self-hating Americans sent online videos apologizing to the rest of the world for his win. It's almost like the views of the international community matter more to liberal idiots (like YOU) than the votes of actual fellow Americans. This is another reason why liberal outrage over Russian interference is so bogus.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Another Russia story goes poof! I knew this one was a lie from the start when it was posted in Newsweek, but it got repeated by everyone from Keith Olbermann to Debra Messing as the truth.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/34343 ... nik-writer

[The_Noble_Cause]

Worry about Obama is not going to change the fact that Mueller is investigating Trump.

Mueller is a hack who helped to sell the Iraq War. The fact that he is now beloved by liberal clowns (like YOU) speaks to how ideologically bankrupt you are. He is not going to save you. And let me tell you something else....Trump could end up in jail, run for a second term, and still receive a sizable amount of the vote. The era of "politics as usual" is officially over.

[S2M]

Worry about Obama is not going to change the fact that Mueller is investigating Trump.

Mueller is a hack who helped to sell the Iraq War. The fact that he is now beloved by liberal clowns (like YOU) speaks to how ideologically bankrupt you are. He is not going to save you. And let me tell you something else....Trump could end up in jail, run for a second term, and still receive a sizable amount of the vote. The era of "politics as usual" is officially over.

What's next, Pauley Shore? Amy Schumer? Lebron James? Adam Levine?

Ending 'politics as usual' is a lofty idea, but you just can't plug any ol' schmo in the office. The ONLY reason Trump won was because he ISN'T a politician. Like the ONLY reason Obysmal won was because he was black.

That would be like voting for a person JUST because they were religious, or if someone was pro-gun, or pro-abortion. There's more to being the CIC than 'being' ONE thing.

[The_Noble_Cause]

What's next, Pauley Shore? Amy Schumer? Lebron James? Adam Levine?

Ending 'politics as usual' is a lofty idea, but you just can't plug any ol' schmo in the office. The ONLY reason Trump won was because he ISN'T a politician. Like the ONLY reason Obysmal won was because he was black.

That would be like voting for a person JUST because they were religious, or if someone was pro-gun, or pro-abortion. There's more to being the CIC than 'being' ONE thing.

I voted for both Obama (twice) and Trump. My votes were not based on race for Obama. My vote for Trump was more driven by disgust at what the Democratic Party had become and Trump's protectionist/trade views - which I share. There was also the fact that Trump simply wanted it more. Toward the end, Trump would visit 5 states in one day. He was also visibly having fun on the stump. Had to give it to him. He wanted it more and worked for it.

[S2M]

What's next, Pauley Shore? Amy Schumer? Lebron James? Adam Levine?

Ending 'politics as usual' is a lofty idea, but you just can't plug any ol' schmo in the office. The ONLY reason Trump won was because he ISN'T a politician. Like the ONLY reason Obysmal won was because he was black.

That would be like voting for a person JUST because they were religious, or if someone was pro-gun, or pro-abortion. There's more to being the CIC than 'being' ONE thing.

I voted for both Obama (twice) and Trump. My votes were not based on race for Obama. My vote for Trump was more driven by disgust at what the Democratic Party had become and Trump's protectionist/trade views - which I share. There was also the fact that Trump simply wanted it more. Toward the end, Trump would visit 5 states in one day. He was also visibly having fun on the stump. Had to give it to him. He wanted it more and worked for it.

That's awesome. Seriously. I'm tired of the vitriol in these threads. We are all Americans.

But honestly...I don't care how you voted. You call me a globalist, and spokesman for the world? I care more about the world as a whole than this country. Now you can call me a loser, a traitor, call me unpatriotic...etc. I really don't care. The WORLD matters, as a whole. That doesn't mean I hate this country. Far from it. Am I ashamed to be an American at times? Absolutely. Now you want me to move, right?

As far as your 'He wanted it more, and worked for it' comment. That'd be like saying...'Gee Frank...I don't know. John Wayne Gacy brought it this year. They had to give him Serial Killer of the Year. He snuffed 11 people this year. Hard to argue with his effort.'

The whole campaign thing is such a waste. They only visit 'swing' states. They ignore states that they feel are already in the bag. It's basically a huge FUCK YOU to the voters in 75% of the country.

Oh, btw...like I said. I don't care how YOU voted. Obama WAS elected because he was black. FACT. Blacks came out of the woodwork to vote. Folks voted that hadn't voted in YEARS/DECADES. Hill should've campaigned in blackface, she would have won in a landslide.

[Boomchild]

There is some skill involved in returning $5 Billion (10,000% return) to $10 Billion (20,000% return) on $50 million...

It's called manipulating the truth, outright lying, and hiding the facts.

With all of the lying Trump has done, I won't believe he is even worth $1 until he releases his tax returns.

Go ahead and prove slucero's statement wrong with factual information.

[S2M]

There is some skill involved in returning $5 Billion (10,000% return) to $10 Billion (20,000% return) on $50 million...

It's called manipulating the truth, outright lying, and hiding the facts.

With all of the lying Trump has done, I won't believe he is even worth $1 until he releases his tax returns.

Go ahead and prove slucero's statement wrong with factual information.

Seriously? It may prove to be a fool's errand...and not because Monker would be wrong. It's like instant replay in footbal. On a play that goes to the replay hood. You need 'indisputable visual evidence' that the wrong call was made. But what if(and don't hop on the word IF, please) everyone can see the wrong call was made on the field, but because of the camera angles available to the ref don't allow for that 'indisputable visual evidence' - the call on the field stands.

My question, and to the point of Monker's problem with slucero's comment...what indisputable visual evidence did the ref who made the original call have if the call was obviously wrong? in other words, what if slucero's comments are just flat out bogus? Trump's finances are anecdotal AT BEST anyway. Good luck pinning down anything factual.

[Boomchild]

The whole campaign thing is such a waste. They only visit 'swing' states. They ignore states that they feel are already in the bag. It's basically a huge FUCK YOU to the voters in 75% of the country.

That was not the case with Trump's campaign. He was all over the country. Speaking of our electoral system, if you don't like or agree with it, then DO something about it. As I mentioned in this thread before, citizens DO NOT have to wait for Congress to change it. Start a movement to call for "Conventions to create amendments to the Constitution". If you get enough citizen's (states) to get on board with it then Congress HAS to enact said amendments. They don't get to vote on it. If so many are outraged by the system as some claim it to be, then this action should very feasible.

[Boomchild]

Seriously? It may prove to be a fool's errand...and not because Monker would be wrong. It's like instant replay in footbal. On a play that goes to the replay hood. You need 'indisputable visual evidence' that the wrong call was made. But what if(and don't hop on the word IF, please) everyone can see the wrong call was made on the field, but because of the camera angles available to the ref don't allow for that 'indisputable visual evidence' - the call on the field stands.

My question, and to the point of Monker's problem with slucero's comment...what indisputable visual evidence did the ref who made the original call have if the call was obviously wrong? in other words, what if slucero's comments are just flat out bogus? Trump's finances are anecdotal AT BEST anyway. Good luck pinning down anything factual.

It's called Put Up or Shut Up. Monker claims slucero's statement is false. But perhaps this is just the same type of tactics used by "the drive by media". Challenges a claim and when asked to provide supporting facts refuses to do so.

[annpea]

What's next, Pauley Shore? Amy Schumer? Lebron James? Adam Levine?

Ending 'politics as usual' is a lofty idea, but you just can't plug any ol' schmo in the office. The ONLY reason Trump won was because he ISN'T a politician. Like the ONLY reason Obysmal won was because he was black.

That would be like voting for a person JUST because they were religious, or if someone was pro-gun, or pro-abortion. There's more to being the CIC than 'being' ONE thing.

I voted for both Obama (twice) and Trump. My votes were not based on race for Obama. My vote for Trump was more driven by disgust at what the Democratic Party had become and Trump's protectionist/trade views - which I share. There was also the fact that Trump simply wanted it more. Toward the end, Trump would visit 5 states in one day. He was also visibly having fun on the stump. Had to give it to him. He wanted it more and worked for it.

Finally! a statement that speaks to the truth, i didn't vote for Trump, but he did run with more passion than Hillary did. She ran a lazy, passionless campaign, although everyone and their grandmother tried to help her, she didn't do enough to help herself. She played the he's bad hand instead of saying " Yes i f'd up, but if you give me a chance i'll show you that i can do better. She couldn't connect with the people the way Trump was able to; she lite no fire within many voters, and she didn't promote her platform with the passion needed to win. halfway through the campaign, to me, it was apparent she might not be able to bring it home, because she just couldn't connect. Now for Trump, he's in and overkill is no longer needed. God bless the Dem and Rep parties both equally, and may we all come together again one day soon and keep our great democracy safe and intact. Don't worry yourself with replying, this is just my opinion only, and i was just glad to see that in someway i wasn't seeing her lack of passion as the delusional thoughts of an old woman.

[Boomchild]

Only if these clowns really thought this way....

[Boomchild]

Bill Mitchell on Twitter: "If we wanted a President who valued politeness over bold leadership, we'd have vote for Jeb."

Sounds right to me.

[Boomchild]

You see, in a single payer, nationalized healthcare system, NO ONE is denied the treatment that is their RIGHT. Guess Again.....

British Government Hospitals To Bar Smokers & Overweight Patients From Surgery, Due To Budget Constraints

A subsidiary of the government-run British National Health Service has decided to bar obese patients and smokers from undgergoing hip and knee operations. “I think we are going to see more and more decisions like this,” said Chris Hopson, the head of NHS Providers told The Telegraph. “It’s the only way providers are going to be able to balance their books.”

In North Yorkshire, England, hospital leaders have decided to cut back by denying hip and knee surgeries to smokers who refuse to quit, and those with Body Mass Indices above 30. (If you’re 5’10”, a BMI of 30 is 209 pounds; if you’re 5’5”, it’s 180 pounds.)


While most NHS patients expect to wait five months for a hip operation or knee surgery, leaving them immobile and disabled in the meantime, the actual waiting times are even worse: 11 months for hips and 12 months for knees. (This compares to a wait of 3 to 4 weeks for such procedures in the United States.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothec ... b13d216936

[The_Noble_Cause]

I care more about the world as a whole than this country. Now you can call me a loser, a traitor, call me unpatriotic...etc. I really don't care. The WORLD matters, as a whole. That doesn't mean I hate this country. Far from it. Am I ashamed to be an American at times? Absolutely. Now you want me to move, right?

That's fine. But we are talking about President of the United States, not Secretary General of the United Nations.

As far as your 'He wanted it more, and worked for it' comment. That'd be like saying...'Gee Frank...I don't know. John Wayne Gacy brought it this year. They had to give him Serial Killer of the Year. He snuffed 11 people this year. Hard to argue with his effort.'

There is still something to be said about retail politics. In several campaign stops, Hillary acknowledged that she wasn't the most charismatic candidate and somewhat admitted to personality defects. If I can find the exact quote I will post it. I remember hearing her say such things several times. In other words, she was saying she sucked as a baby-kissing politician. Well, that's part of the game. You have to go out on the hustings and glad-hand the people. She wasn't up to it. She was running because she thought she was entitled to it.

The whole campaign thing is such a waste. They only visit 'swing' states. They ignore states that they feel are already in the bag. It's basically a huge FUCK YOU to the voters in 75% of the country.

I don't think that's accurate. Most puffed shirt media types said Trump was wasting his time in PA - since it hadn't gone red in decades. Ultimately, he won it. Michigan is a swing state and Hillary ignored it. Same with Wisconsin.

Oh, btw...like I said. I don't care how YOU voted. Obama WAS elected because he was black. FACT. Blacks came out of the woodwork to vote.

My vote is worth just as much as anyone else - regardless of race. I think a Democrat would have beat McCain handily anyway due to the economic crash.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Finally! a statement that speaks to the truth, i didn't vote for Trump, but he did run with more passion than Hillary did. She ran a lazy, passionless campaign, although everyone and their grandmother tried to help her, she didn't do enough to help herself. She played the he's bad hand instead of saying " Yes i f'd up, but if you give me a chance i'll show you that i can do better. She couldn't connect with the people the way Trump was able to; she lite no fire within many voters, and she didn't promote her platform with the passion needed to win. halfway through the campaign, to me, it was apparent she might not be able to bring it home, because she just couldn't connect. Now for Trump, he's in and overkill is no longer needed. God bless the Dem and Rep parties both equally, and may we all come together again one day soon and keep our great democracy safe and intact. Don't worry yourself with replying, this is just my opinion only, and i was just glad to see that in someway i wasn't seeing her lack of passion as the delusional thoughts of an old woman.

Thanks for posting, annpea. I agree 100%.

[Monker]

There is some skill involved in returning $5 Billion (10,000% return) to $10 Billion (20,000% return) on $50 million...

It's called manipulating the truth, outright lying, and hiding the facts.

With all of the lying Trump has done, I won't believe he is even worth $1 until he releases his tax returns.

Go ahead and prove slucero's statement wrong with factual information.

My point was, and is, that the "skill" involved is that Donald Judas Trump is a liar, a manipulator of what is true, and hiding facts.

There is absolutely NO reason for me to believe this lying piece of shit's net worth is anything until HE proves it. I don't believe ANYTHING this asshole says because he LIES CONSTANTLY. EVERY TIME he opens his mouth it is a lie or an exaggeration of some truth (turning the truth into a lie).

I would like to know how you can possibly believe anything this guy says until facts back him up. You don't know how much he is REALLY worth. $5 billion....yeah, some people don't even believe he is worth $1 billion...he just says he is so he can be part of that club. Do I KNOW that, of course not. The Judas won't release his tax returns probably because that would publicly prove that he has major ties to Russia.

[Monker]

Bill Mitchell on Twitter: "If we wanted a President who valued politeness over bold leadership, we'd have vote for Jeb."

"bold leadership". Bullshit. Trump has not led ANYTHING.

[Monker]

Trump has essentially become the court jester when world leaders meet. He can't be taken seriously. He is someone people laugh at instead of take serious.

Both Monker and S2M are the self-appointed spokespersons for the world now. Too funny.
I still remember when Dubya won re-election, self-hating Americans sent online videos apologizing to the rest of the world for his win. It's almost like the views of the international community matter more to liberal idiots (like YOU) than the votes of actual fellow Americans. This is another reason why liberal outrage over Russian interference is so bogus.

If you remember W being elected then you remember Obama taking critique from Republicans for how the "world" viewed him. In fact, if you look up a few pages you can find your pals still whining about it.

The votes of actual fellow Americans did not vote Trump into office...they voted for Clinton. The Electoral College, you know, the political elite, voted for Trump.

[Monker]

Worry about Obama is not going to change the fact that Mueller is investigating Trump.

Mueller is a hack who helped to sell the Iraq War.

Yeah, that's what Trump wants you to do....try to discredit Mueller. You're a good minion

It isn't going to help, though.

The fact that he is now beloved by liberal clowns (like YOU) speaks to how ideologically bankrupt you are

I don't think he is "beloved'. I think he is respected and trusted - by both sides. The only ones who don't trust him are t-virus infected Trump zombies, like you.

He is not going to save you.

I don't need saved.

Flynn, Manafort, Junior, Kushner, and Donald Judas Trump are the ones who need to find Jesus.

And let me tell you something else....Trump could end up in jail, run for a second term, and still receive a sizable amount of the vote. The era of "politics as usual" is officially over.

Yeah, most Authoritarians end up that way. Hitler, Saddam, Nixon....all of those types had their devoted followers even after their leader fell. And, they all seem to keep believing in the "cause" the "leader" was standing for. Kinda sad how they deny the reality of the situation.