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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:Does WikiLeaks admit it, too? Here is the entire cable as posted on WikiLeaks:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE85588_a.html


You just posted a link to the ENTIRE cable, dumbass.
The HuffingtonPost article says "the section it omitted from the tweet changes the entire context of Mueller’s actions."
So HuffPo is criticizing a tweet NOT the cable, which is posted by Wiki in its unedited entirety. Who cares?

Monker wrote:You all are taking fake news as reported on alt-right media, backed up by bogus WikiLeaks, as truth - when it is completely misleading as to what happened.


So what did Wikileaks omit or edit? Very simple question.


They only posted the bits that would enflame people like KC, FF, and YOU. That was ditto-heads like FF and KC would pass it on as if Mueller did this bad thing. He did nothing wrong, he did his job. As for "who cares?" FF passed on the fake news - he cared. KC critiqued "something"...his writing skills are so bad you can't tell if he is critiquing the Huffington Post or WikiLeaks. And, YOU care because you are replying to the topic and reading this post.

WikiLeaks could have just as easily posted a link to the entire cable, as I just did...but that would not have had the same affect on you t-virus infected Trump zombies, would it? They knew what they were doing.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:31 am

Monker wrote:They only posted the bits that would enflame people like KC, FF, and YOU.


No they did not. The Wiki link you just posted includes the entire cable, including the relevant portions that HuffPo cited. You could argue that they should have tweeted more excerpts, but Tweets are not the same thing as Wikileaks itself.

Monker wrote:That was ditto-heads like FF and KC would pass it on as if Mueller did this bad thing. He did nothing wrong, he did his job.


You are rambling. I ask again - what part of the cable was not posted by Wikileaks.

Monker wrote:As for "who cares?"


Correct. Who cares about a tweet? Wikileaks acts as a clearing house for info. No part of the cable was edited or omitted.

Monker wrote:WikiLeaks could have just as easily posted a link to the entire cable, as I just did...but that would not have had the same affect on you t-virus infected Trump zombies, would it? They knew what they were doing.


Except THEY DID post the link to the entire cable in their tweet. The link is even still active. Screenshot below. You have no clue what you are talking about.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby brandonx76 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:53 am

So from Boomchilds post - Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller flew to Moscow and gave the FSB 10 grams of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) in 2009

The excerpt goes on to reference flight/security clearance and the hand off of enriched uranium

But it doesn't touch on why. TNC - You indicate basically this is semantics over a tweet limit? They referenced a picture which had a selective paragraph highlighted, well over 140 characters. Why not show additional details. Context is seemingly strategically omitted here.

When I read the tweet, (surface read) I thought, "holy crap, Mueller is documented to have seemingly conspired with the Russians related to enriched uranium. WTF??"

But, there's no conspiracy, not at all. I mean, it is interesting Mueller's name is associated with Russian interaction and enriched uranium but once you know: It was on behalf of the U.S. government, that Robert Mueller delivered a sample of highly enriched uranium confiscated from smugglers in Georgia to Russian authorities for forensic examination in 2009, this becomes fake news

Even the drudge report didn't bother to reference any of this because it's a nothing burger
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:17 am

brandonx76 wrote:But it doesn't touch on why. TNC -


When NBC News or The Hill or Wall Street Journal tweets a sensational headline out, do they typically explain the "who, what, where, and why" and other details? No news organization does this. You and Monker are confusing the headline with the actual below the fold facts.

brandonx76 wrote: Why not show additional details. Context is seemingly strategically omitted here.


The link to the cable was posted and included all of it. Why not do some actual reading?

brandonx76 wrote:When I read the tweet, (surface read) I thought, "holy crap, Mueller is documented to have seemingly conspired with the Russians related to enriched uranium. WTF??"


That's an entirely fair point regarding selective framing of the tweet. But it's not accurate to say that Wikileaks edited or altered the document (as Monker lied about). It was posted and Wiki included a link to the entire thing. Y'know, in June, the NYTimes ran a major story with the headline - "Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence." Then, in the actual story they go on to say intelligence "officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation." This stuff happens all the time. People should learn to read below the headline.

brandonx76 wrote:I mean, it is interesting Mueller's name is associated with Russian interaction and enriched uranium but once you know: It was on behalf of the U.S. government, that Robert Mueller delivered a sample of highly enriched uranium confiscated from smugglers in Georgia to Russian authorities for forensic examination in 2009, this becomes fake news.


The Wiki tweet said that Mueller delivered highly enriched stolen Uranium to Russia in 2009 and then included a link to the entire cable. What part of that is fake news? Did he deliver it or not? In the current McCarthyite climate created by Democrats, ANY Russian contact becomes immediately suspect. Assange is hurling the same slimy innuendo that has become the Dems stock-in-trade. Good for him.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:20 am

TNC,

All you are doing is taking things out of context and spinning things your way. I didn't lie about anything here. As was said, they took the original cable and edited it. Since that isn't specific enough...they edited down to one paragraph, posted a pic so they were not limited by character size, and implied Mueller did something wrong.

If you are saying the "link" is the URL posted in the picture, that is not a LINK...it's a URL. I have not seen the actual Tweet, because nobody has posted it.

What I was saying if Wikileaks REALLY wante3d to INFORM people, they could have tweeted, "more info here: ...." and posted the link to the cable. That was OBVIOUSLY not their goal...not to inform, but to inflame.

Conversing with you in this thread has become more and more impossible because of how you are twisting words and context. It's more like conversing AT you.

And, this conversation is also over for me...it's a waste of time.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:10 am

Monker wrote:TNC,
All you are doing is taking things out of context and spinning things your way. I didn't lie about anything here. As was said, they took the original cable and edited it.


No they did not. Wikileaks tweeted an excerpt of the cable with a link to the ENTIRE cable. Next you will be saying that they should have tweeted out ALL 20,000 DNC emails or tweeted all 8,000 documents of Vault 7. It's apparent by the way you post that you have no clue what Wikileaks even is. They are not a Twitter feed.

Monker wrote:Since that isn't specific enough...they edited down to one paragraph, posted a pic so they were not limited by character size, and implied Mueller did something wrong.


A screenshot from the cable was tweeted along with a link to the entire cable on Wikileaks. If they publicize a link with the entire cable uploaded on Wikileaks, what was edited?

Monker wrote:If you are saying the "link" is the URL posted in the picture, that is not a LINK...it's a URL.


A URL is a link. Link or web address. Same difference.

Monker wrote: I have not seen the actual Tweet, because nobody has posted it.


In other words, you are criticizing something you have not even bothered to look at. So what is the basis for your argument? Like everything else ("Hillary had permission to use a private server"), you are here regurgitating BS. Here is the link again.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en

Monker wrote:What I was saying if Wikileaks REALLY wante3d to INFORM people, they could have tweeted, "more info here: ...." and posted the link to the cable. That was OBVIOUSLY not their goal...not to inform, but to inflame.


The link to the cable WAS INCLUDED. If you had done any research, you would know that. And Mueller did deliver uranium to Russia. What is the falsehood?

Monker wrote:And, this conversation is also over for me...it's a waste of time.


Everything you post is a waste of time. I may as well be seated at a Nancy Pelosi fundraiser - at least I would get my buzz on.
Can anyone on here tell me how Monker's posts (see below) differ in any way from DNC talking points?

- Hillary had permission to use a private server
-All 17 intel agencies agree that Russia hacked our election
- Hillary fired the staffer that started the birther rumors
- Donna Brazille was just doing her job
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Laughed my ass off when I saw this. Glad to see the White House isn't going to take it anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJVa35qoSE


Acosta was out of his depth. Seems like he is aiming for his own MSNBC show.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:11 am

Monker wrote:
If you are saying the "link" is the URL posted in the picture, that is not a LINK...it's a URL.


A URL is a link. Link or web address. Same difference.[/quote]

You are so ignorant. Ask your coder/hacker friends you supposedly have to show you the difference in HTML. A link is clickable. A URL is what you would type into the browser to go to the page. They are absolutely NOT the same thing.

Monker wrote:
I have not seen the actual Tweet, because nobody has posted it.

In other words, you are criticizing something you have not even bothered to look at. So what is the basis for your argument? Like everything else ("Hillary had permission to use a private server"), you are here regurgitating BS. Here is the link again.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en


And, their link is broken, and the URL is incomplete. My point stands. They posted an edited version of the cable with no reference to the full thing. There was no intention to inform anybody...but to inflame people.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:31 am

Monker wrote:You are so ignorant. Ask your coder/hacker friends you supposedly have to show you the difference in HTML. A link is clickable. A URL is what you would type into the browser to go to the page. They are absolutely NOT the same thing.


Oh please. This is such "tomato vs tomAHto" difference without distinction. You said Wiki should have posted the link to the entire cable. That is exactly what they did.

PS By a clickable link did you mean "hyperlink"? If you want to play this game, let's be consistent.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en

Monker wrote:And, their link is broken, and the URL is incomplete. My point stands.


Works fine for me. The link takes me directly to the entire unedited cable. Some expert you are. You don't even know how to click on a link.

Monker wrote: They posted an edited version of the cable with no reference to the full thing.


They tweeted a snippet of the cable with a link to the entire thing. Same as they have done with any previous mass data dump. As I said, did you also expect Wiki to tweet 20,000 DNC emails or tweet all 8,000 documents of Vault 7? That is what the Wikileaks website is for.

Monker wrote:There was no intention to inform anybody...but to inflame people.


Mueller DID deliver uranium to Russia, our current arch nemesis. According to your logic, that makes him a Commie. Glad Wiki brought this to light. Deal with it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:08 am

Monker wrote:You are so ignorant. Ask your coder/hacker friends you supposedly have to show you the difference in HTML. A link is clickable. A URL is what you would type into the browser to go to the page. They are absolutely NOT the same thing.


The information I posted in this thread came from a post Wikileaks put on their "Wikileaks Update" Facebook page. That post contained a clickable link to the entire document in question. you can scroll down this Facebook page and view it for yourself.

https://www.facebook.com/WikiLeaks-Upda ... 455147909/
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:39 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:You are so ignorant. Ask your coder/hacker friends you supposedly have to show you the difference in HTML. A link is clickable. A URL is what you would type into the browser to go to the page. They are absolutely NOT the same thing.


The information I posted in this thread came from a post Wikileaks put on their "Wikileaks Update" Facebook page. That post contained a clickable link to the entire document in question. you can scroll down this Facebook page and view it for yourself.

https://www.facebook.com/WikiLeaks-Upda ... 455147909/


Of course. This is just another Monker lie.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby tj » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:40 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Laughed my ass off when I saw this. Glad to see the White House isn't going to take it anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJVa35qoSE


Acosta was out of his depth. Seems like he is aiming for his own MSNBC show.


Ratings is a strong part of why this crap goes on. Was for Sam Donaldson at ABC 35 years ago and is still true today. Whether they support the president or not (Obama, Trump, whoever), driving ratings up = driving ad $ up. News is and always has been a business.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:32 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Monker wrote:
You are so ignorant. Ask your coder/hacker friends you supposedly have to show you the difference in HTML. A link is clickable. A URL is what you would type into the browser to go to the page. They are absolutely NOT the same thing.


So what happens when I type the URL to http://www.drudgereport.com here on this page? Huh..huh.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


What happens is the forums recognizes you typed in a URL and then converts this into the proper HTML to form a link. In fact, your entire post is converted into HTML. This can be proven if you right click and choose "View Source". This is the source code for the page your are viewing. If you search for your drudgereport URL you will find it was placed into an HTML anchor tag and now looks like this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.drudgereport.com">http://www.drudgereport.com</a>

The anchor tag creates the link in your post, not entering the URL.

The forum does this so dumb fucks like you and TNC do not have to learn HTML.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:56 pm

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:05 pm

Monker wrote:The forum does this so dumb fucks like you and TNC do not have to learn HTML.

Fucking idiots.


Tell us again how the link in this tweet is broken and inactive. More lies from the forum's resident DNC whore. It doesn't take a Best Buy Geek Squad member to tell you that hovering your cursor over the link would show the actual URL. You are just a small town Iowan punk writing checks your dumb ass can't cash. Stick to posting about how you want to suck the skin off of Mueller's cock, you gay bitch.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:49 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The media won't tell Americans what President Trump

HAS accomplished in just 6 short months:

2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.


Again can someone please explain to me what our national interest is in Syria? Unless I am really missing something, I think it's a waste of military hardware.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:51 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:The forum does this so dumb fucks like you and TNC do not have to learn HTML.

Fucking idiots.


Tell us again how the link in this tweet is broken and inactive. More lies from the forum's resident DNC whore. It doesn't take a Best Buy Geek Squad member to tell you that hovering your cursor over the link would show the actual URL. You are just a small town Iowan punk writing checks your dumb ass can't cash. Stick to posting about how you want to suck the skin off of Mueller's cock, you gay bitch.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en


All I can say is WOW!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:57 am

tj wrote:
Ratings is a strong part of why this crap goes on. Was for Sam Donaldson at ABC 35 years ago and is still true today. Whether they support the president or not (Obama, Trump, whoever), driving ratings up = driving ad $ up. News is and always has been a business.


MSM is a dying breed and they know it. More and more people are turning to alternative media sources. So the MSM is scrambling to try and save their format. Except it's not working. Even with sites like YT, FB and AOL trying to filter out and hide alternative news sources under the guise of protecting people from "hate speech".
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:07 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Kansas too. I think Blue Cross is dumping the ACA.


I believe Aetna has said that they are pulling out all together.


Yep. Here you go. Yet another serious blow to the ACA

Aetna exits Obamacare exchanges

Health insurer Aetna announced Thursday that it would completely withdraw from the Obamacare exchanges in 2018, after seeing its profits soar from reducing its participation this year.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:18 am

Food stamp and welfare fraud isn't really a problem. Try this one on for size. It's to the tune of 30 million.

Largest food stamp fraud bust in US history announced after flea market raid near Miami

"This case did originate with a complaint of identity theft that involved an individual who lived in Palm Beach County," said Jack Heacock with the Florida Division of Public Assistance Fraud.

500 people had their identities stolen in Palm Beach County to be used to get fake Electronic Benefit Transfer cards which were then exchanged for cash at the flea market, WSVN reported.

http://www.wptv.com/tablet-showcase/opa ... food-stamp
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby tj » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:19 am

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The media won't tell Americans what President Trump

HAS accomplished in just 6 short months:

2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.


Again can someone please explain to me what our national interest is in Syria? Unless I am really missing something, I think it's a waste of military hardware.


For many people, the major premise is "keep the fight over there so they don't get big enough/organized enough to bring it here", check the Russians and Chinese (sort of like Vietnam domino theory), with a side helping of humanitarianism for the civilians caught in the middle.

But more to your question, can anyone define what our national interest is? We are so divided as a country that it seems to change every couple of years depending on who is in power.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:49 pm

tj wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The media won't tell Americans what President Trump

HAS accomplished in just 6 short months:

2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.


Again can someone please explain to me what our national interest is in Syria? Unless I am really missing something, I think it's a waste of military hardware.


For many people, the major premise is "keep the fight over there so they don't get big enough/organized enough to bring it here", check the Russians and Chinese (sort of like Vietnam domino theory), with a side helping of humanitarianism for the civilians caught in the middle.

But more to your question, can anyone define what our national interest is? We are so divided as a country that it seems to change every couple of years depending on who is in power.



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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:42 pm

Lynch needs to be charged with purjury for telling Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) under oath that she only uses official email in November 2016 — after using an alias to contact DOJ officials before that date.

Rep. Trey Gowdy: So you use official email to conduct official business?

AG Loretta Lynch: Yes sir. I do.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:22 am

Where there's smoke there's fire.

Broward County Comes Clean: Felons and Illegals Voted Big Time in 2016 Election!

Broward Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes testified on Tuesday, this past week in a lawsuit that alleged she had failed to adequately purge voter rolls of ineligible voters including those who have died.

You see, at the time of the 2014 midterm elections, Broward County reported approximately 103 percent of the citizens of voting age were registered to vote — an impossibility, of course. Four years earlier, in 2010, Broward reported 106 percent of citizens of voting age were registered to vote.

After filing the suit, the local SEIU chapter representing health care workers in the county joined as an intervener, to defend against the charges and to prevent names from being removed from the Broward County voter roll. The group Demos, which has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding from George Soros’ Open Society Institute, is contributing to Snipes’ legal defense and working to prevent any and all names from being removed from Broward’s voter roll.

In addition to the county having more than 103% registered voters, Snipes should have explained why Broward County, which has the highest number of Democratic voters in the state, has thousands of people over the age of 100 on its roll, and some as old as 130.

Yet another allegation involves Voter Services and Registration Director Mary Hall, one of four employees a volunteer identified in a signed affidavit. The volunteer confirms the allegations made by a source claiming Hall and others were locked in a room filling in scores of absentee ballots for Mrs. Clinton and other Democratic candidates.

The volunteer, who was terminated ubruptly after witnessing the mass voter fraud operation in what employees called “The Pitney Bowes Room,” stated in their affidavit that they clearly saw these four individuals filling in “stacks” of ballots with the same pen given by the Supervisor of Elections to voters.

“Once in the room, I could see the four SEO employees sitting at the same table actively filling out election ballots,” the affidavit reads. “Each had a stack of blank ballots to the right of them (about an inch high) and a stack of completed ballots to their left… I could see that the bubbles on the right stack had not been filled in, while the bubbles on the left stack had been blackened in.”

http://joeforamerica.com/2017/08/browar ... -election/
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:06 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-0 ... e-citizens

LA County Admits Number Of Registered Voters At 144% Of Resident Citizens Of Voting Age
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:09 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Leaked Google Memo.

http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the- ... 1797564320


Well, well well, a admittedly progressive and "inclusive" business isn't paying women equal wages. Could it be they are are just "paying lip service"?

The post comes as Google battles a wage discrimination investigation by the US Department of Labor, which has found that Google routinely pays women less than men in comparable roles.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:44 am

Fact Finder wrote:EXCLUSIVE: FBI Leaked Classified Flight Plan of AG Loretta Lynch to Set Up Bill Clinton’s Tarmac Ambush

http://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-lea ... ac-ambush/


I love my grandkids, but that would certainly be a lot to go through just to chat about them for 30 minutes.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:25 am



Look at the state of Delaware. If I am reading the map correctly, the whole state has only one insurance option on the exchange.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:42 am

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