They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

I guess we learn how stupid the little midget is soon. If he fires on Guam, he won't have time to kiss his ass good by. I figure he's dead. Just a matter of who does it. His own army trying to save their asses, or ours.

Surprised that there hasn't been more discussion on this here.

[Monker]

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
I guess we learn how stupid the little midget is soon. If he fires on Guam, he won't have time to kiss his ass good by. I figure he's dead. Just a matter of who does it. His own army trying to save their asses, or ours.


Surprised that there hasn't been more discussion on this here.

Why? You all don't discuss Trump the Tyrant. You all are too busy being Trump zombies and discussing Clinton as a distraction from is really going on in the world.

No discussion about N. Korea threatening Guam.
No discussion of Trump's Tweets toward N. Korea implying nuclear war.
No discussion about Manafort having his residence searched by the FBI.
No discussion about Trump being the least liked President in American history at 200 days.
No discussion of Republicans like Jeff Flake critiquing Trump.
No discussion of Trump's tweets demeaning Sessions.
No discussion of The Mooch's crazy words, or his firing.
No discussion of John Kelly taking up Chief of Staff.

This thread really has nothing to do with the Trump Presidency - at all.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Why? You all don't discuss Trump the Tyrant. You all are too busy being Trump zombies and discussing Clinton as a distraction from is really going on in the world.

No discussion about N. Korea threatening Guam.
No discussion of Trump's Tweets toward N. Korea implying nuclear war.
No discussion about Manafort having his residence searched by the FBI.
No discussion about Trump being the least liked President in American history at 200 days.
No discussion of Republicans like Jeff Flake critiquing Trump.
No discussion of Trump's tweets demeaning Sessions.
No discussion of The Mooch's crazy words, or his firing.
No discussion of John Kelly taking up Chief of Staff.

This thread really has nothing to do with the Trump Presidency - at all.

It's an open thread. Unlike you, we Trump-voters don't dictate the terms of the conversation. If you want to discuss these issues, bring them up. Most are bullshit anyway.

[Archetype]

I guess we learn how stupid the little midget is soon. If he fires on Guam, he won't have time to kiss his ass good by. I figure he's dead. Just a matter of who does it. His own army trying to save their asses, or ours.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/north-korea/2017-08-09/wolf-pyongyang

[The_Noble_Cause]

We've been sooo quiet Monker because we are still waiting for you to explain how the below link is broken. Or do you want to admit that you were caught lying again? Just like the time you said Hillary had permission to use a private server. All you do is gargle Hillary's briny douche water. Trump voters are an unwieldy diverse coalition of unionists, pacifists, establishment GOP and many others. Look at me - I'm pretty much a socialist! They are the very opposite of zombies who are shambling to the DNC beat of "Russia Russia Russia Russia." I know it's hard to see your reflection in a steamy bathhouse mirror, but I'd strongly advise you take a deep long look.


https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/86 ... 88?lang=en

[JBlake]

I guess we learn how stupid the little midget is soon. If he fires on Guam, he won't have time to kiss his ass good by. I figure he's dead. Just a matter of who does it. His own army trying to save their asses, or ours.

Surprised that there hasn't been more discussion on this here.

I'm sure it will soon be discussed though. Wondering if N.Korea will have an accident with one of the nukes they are playing around with. A premature detonation on the Launchpad would be wonderful.

[Monker]

It's an open thread. Unlike you, we Trump-voters don't dictate the terms of the conversation.

I'm not dictating anything. I'm simply stating that people here would rather talk about Clinton than Trump. That is because you followed your leader's Tweets, like a bunch of mindless zombies. Trump doesn't want these things discussed, so you don't.

[Monker]

We've been sooo quiet Monker because we are still waiting for you

Cool...thank you for giving me complete control over what you do and don't post about. That's awesome! Better tell KC, because he is pretty much saying the exact opposite of you.

to explain how the below link is broken.

When I clicked on it it gave a 404 PAGE NOT FOUND error. Period. If it was fixed by tht time you tried it, good for them....but it was not a valid link when I did it and I don't care enough to keep trying.

Trump voters are an unwieldy diverse coalition of unionists, pacifists, establishment GOP and many others.

Voters, maybe. However, the people who still support him are a bunch of whiners who follow his lead like a bunch of zombies.

They are the very opposite of zombies who are shambling to the DNC beat of "Russia Russia Russia Russia."

No, they go by the Trump beat of "Lock her up!", instead. This thread is proof enough of that.

[Archetype]

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/only-morons-believe-what-the-us-government-says-about-north-korea-3d5a5157cea2

It would be perfectly understandable if Kim Jong Un learned from Gaddafi’s mistake of relinquishing Libya’s rudimentary nuclear program and procured the deterrent of ICBM nukes as quickly as possible, given the increasingly shiny target that the nation has had painted on it by the western war machine.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm not dictating anything. I'm simply stating that people here would rather talk about Clinton than Trump. That is because you followed your leader's Tweets, like a bunch of mindless zombies. Trump doesn't want these things discussed, so you don't.

Uhh, Trump IS talking about many of these things, especially N. Korea. I, for one, has been more interested in the Schon vs Cain feud than politics lately. You have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. Nobody owes you a handout. This is a Do It Yourself forum. If you want to discuss something, do it.

[Monker]

Are you proud that Clinton gave him the Uranium

Are you proud that you keep repeating a lie? This never happened. Again, N. Korea can make their own weapons grade uranium....they do not need the US or anybody else to give it to them. It is an absolute lie to say we gave them Uranium.

and 4 billion to get where he is today?

At that time, if I remember right...this is so long ago, it was to be used to upgrade their nuclear power plants and had nothing to do with weapons. It also allowed for inspections and such. So, it wasn't a bad deal - at that time.

Would we do it today? Of course not. But, it would be a lot better policy than "fire and fury"...which leave no room for anything other than nuclear war.

Both Bushes, Clinton and Obama and made the mess we have today.

And, Trump the Tyrant has no idea how to handle the situation so he states things on Twitter that sound more like the Kim family than a respected President of the United States.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Cool...thank you for giving me complete control over what you do and don't post about. That's awesome! Better tell KC, because he is pretty much saying the exact opposite of you.

Still waiting....
While you are at it, please provide me the name of the imaginary staffer that was fired by Hillary for starting birther rumors.
Or was that you just brainlessly repeating propaganda again?

When I clicked on it it gave a 404 PAGE NOT FOUND error. Period. If it was fixed by tht time you tried it, good for them....but it was not a valid link when I did it and I don't care enough to keep trying.

This is complete BS and you know it. It has been an active link since I first posted it. You lied about Wikileaks not providing the entire cable to readers and you lied about the link being dead.

Voters, maybe. However, the people who still support him are a bunch of whiners who follow his lead like a bunch of zombies.

And you are a good judge of this how exactly? You said Trump had no chance of winning.

In addition to saying Trump couldn't win, you have also previously said this: "Compared to what Indivisible is doing, it is miniscule. Indivisible is FAR more mainstream than you are giving it credit for."

To those who don't know, Indivisible is a Soros-affiliated network of progressives that disrupts town halls.
You pretty much tipped your hand with that one, Monker. Indivisible is about as non-partisan as Code Pink. It's a fringe group that appeals to a very small sliver of society. You are a flaming radical leftist and you have been exposed.

[Monker]

At the time, it was the same problem as now. Clinton did indeed give them 4 billion AND URANIUM for their power plants.

Prove it. He did not give N. Korea any uranium. N. Korea mines their own uranium. If anything, we would buy it from them. It is a STUPID thing for you to even say.

You're as stupid as he was if you believe that's what they used it for.

That is why there were inspectors as part of the agreement. And, part of the reason why they wanted to upgrade the plants was because the waste material could be refined into weapons....and the upgraded plants couldn't.

So, it wasn't STUPID. YOU are stupid, and ignorant, to not understand that North Korea mines its own uranium which it secretly refined for weapons. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter who was President the past 20yrs, it would have happened.

Sit back, adults have the power now. Your globalist days of ass kissing and kicking the can are over, except now they bare their fruit. Like a good little globalist, you'll blame the problems your beliefs caused on Repubicans. Since the Bush family bares that party, I guess they will take some of it. Republican, Democrat, still globalist idiots.

You act both like a child, AND an idiot.

Clinton did not give North Korea uranium.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:

No discussion about Manafort having his residence searched by the FBI.

Hillary deletes 33,000 emails under subpoena, smashes 13 phones to bits, has her server bleach bit, unlawfully possessed and shared classified information and the FBI finds no reason to even look at her server let alone raid her home or file charges.

Manafort supposedly turns over documents the Congress asked for, goes in for questioning and bam, they raid his home at 0 dark thirty.

Fuck this shit.

Gee, I wonder who the FBI will raid when they start in on Trump Jr.. Maybe Trump Tower? That's going to be fun.

[Monker]

When I clicked on it it gave a 404 PAGE NOT FOUND error. Period. If it was fixed by tht time you tried it, good for them....but it was not a valid link when I did it and I don't care enough to keep trying.

This is complete BS and you know it. It has been an active link since I first posted it. You lied about Wikileaks not providing the entire cable to readers and you lied about the link being dead.
[/quote]

Bullshit. I clicked on their link, it didn't work, and I posted. That's what happened, believe it or not. I'm not going to try to debug their bullshit site. The link didn't work when I clicked on it....END OF DISCUSSION.

In addition to saying Trump couldn't win, you have also previously said this: "Compared to what Indivisible is doing, it is miniscule. Indivisible is FAR more mainstream than you are giving it credit for."

Yes, I did say that...months and months ago. Indivisible is NOT a split off of radicals like the Tea Party was. It is much more of a broad representation of the Democratic party.

To those who don't know, Indivisible is a Soros-affiliated network of progressives that disrupts town halls.

That is a misrepresentation and a lie. Soros has nothing to do with Indivisible. It was started to give grass roots direction to oppose Trump...to educate people and unite them. Not just to 'disrupt' town halls, but to organize locally, to protest locally, to educate people in politics in general.

The original Indivisible guide in PDF form: https://www.indivisibleguide.com/resour ... pdmdl=1777

Soros was not involved. It grew out of one guys idea of putting together a small pamphlet on how to organize marches to go along with the woman's march. Indivisible was one of the reasons why there were a lot of local protests at the same time as the woman's march. It has grown from there to become a real threat to the Trump agenda...which is why you are trying to falsely connect it to Soros and attempt to discredit it.

As for ME...I am not a member of Indivisible as it seems to have grown from the Democratic party and I am not a Democrat. But, I am much more impressed with Indivisible than I ever was with the Tea Party...which had organization, but not the numbers that Indivisible does. I am also more impressed with Indivisible than I was with the 1% protests on Wallstreet...which I criticized for having no real organization or ability to change things with VOTES. Indivisible "gets it" much better than any of the above...and Republicans SHOULD be nervous about it. Indivisible is at least PART of the reason Health Care FAILED.

Indivisible is about as non-partisan as Code Pink.

I didn't say they were 'non-partison'. I said they were more mainstream. THEY ARE. They are not introducing candidates that have the message, "Vote for me, I'm not a witch," as Republican did a while back with Christine O'donnelle. They seems to want to WIN for the Democrats and not push winning candidates out of reelection as the Tea Party did several times.

It's a fringe group that appeals to a very small sliver of society.

People who are inclined to be involved in politics are themselves a very small sliver of society. But, Indivisible does not represent some type of radical or extreme view...just anti-Trump....and frankly being anti-Trump is mainstream in itself..

[The_Noble_Cause]

Bullshit. I clicked on their link, it didn't work, and I posted. That's what happened, believe it or not. I'm not going to try to debug their bullshit site. The link didn't work when I clicked on it....END OF DISCUSSION.

Boomchild and myself posted it several times. You don't think we both clicked on it? Your lie requires Wikileaks to host an inactive link, for Boomchild to post an inactive link, and for myself to post a dead link. Which is more likely? All three of us did not notice or that YOU - a proven liar - is just lying again?

Yes, I did say that...months and months ago. Indivisible is NOT a split off of radicals like the Tea Party was. It is much more of a broad representation of the Democratic party.

The Tea Party movement actually held ideas of limited government and influenced their party. The Dems meanwhile are headed for the ashcan of history next to the Whigs. Nearly 30 states have a Repub governor and Repub legislature.

That is a misrepresentation and a lie. Soros has nothing to do with Indivisible.

All of the directors of Indivisble (Ezra Levin, Leah Greenberg, Angel Padilla) have connections to Soros's Open Society Foundation. That is just a documented fact. Greenberg and Levin were also seen hobnobbing at the Soros-funded Democracy Alliance Summit.

It was started to give grass roots direction to oppose Trump...to educate people and unite them. Not just to 'disrupt' town halls, but to organize locally, to protest locally, to educate people in politics in general.

LOL. Sounds like someone has not just drank the kool-aid, but has taken off their bermudas and dived head first in the punch bowl.

Soros was not involved. It grew out of one guys idea of putting together a small pamphlet on how to organize marches to go along with the woman's march. Indivisible was one of the reasons why there were a lot of local protests at the same time as the woman's march. It has grown from there to become a real threat to the Trump agenda...which is why you are trying to falsely connect it to Soros and attempt to discredit it.

Then why are all the Indivisible directors (Ezra Levin, Leah Greenberg, Angel Padilla) from Soros's Open Society? Why did Greenberg and Levin attend the Soros-funded Democracy Alliance Summit. Just a coincidence, right?

As for ME...I am not a member of Indivisible as it seems to have grown from the Democratic party and I am not a Democrat. But, I am much more impressed with Indivisible than I ever was with the Tea Party...which had organization, but not the numbers that Indivisible does. I am also more impressed with Indivisible than I was with the 1% protests on Wallstreet...which I criticized for having no real organization or ability to change things with VOTES. Indivisible "gets it" much better than any of the above...and Republicans SHOULD be nervous about it. Indivisible is at least PART of the reason Health Care FAILED.

Yeh, right dude. You practically sound like the Hair Club for Men guy.
You may as well sign every post on here with - "I'm not only an Indivisible chapter president, I am also a member."

I didn't say they were 'non-partison'. I said they were more mainstream. THEY ARE.

Show of hands in this thread...
Anybody hear of these assholes besides Monker and truly believe this?

[Monker]

The Tea Party movement actually held ideas of limited government and influenced their party.

Exactly...they were an idealogical group. Indivisible isn't...they are an anti-Trump group.

As for influence, The Tea Party, aka Freedom Caucus, are causing a major split in the Republican party and is another major reason no health care will be passed. And, this is a problem I predicted back when the Tea Party first started...they fractured the party.

The Dems meanwhile are headed for the ashcan of history next to the Whigs. Nearly 30 states have a Repub governor and Repub legislature.

I'm sorry, but that is wishfull thinking. With Trump being the least popular President in history, after 200 days, you can't count on him winning reelection, or his influence carrying congressional wins. Trump is an incredibly weak President.

All of the directors of Indivisble (Ezra Levin, Leah Greenberg, Angel Padilla) have connections to Soros's Open Society Foundation. That is just a documented fact. Greenberg and Levin were also seen hobnobbing at the Soros-funded Democracy Alliance Summit.

Irrelevent. Soros does not fund Indivisible. Soros does not have the ability to influence Indivisible since the groups start at the grass roots level by people who simply want to stop Trump.

LOL. Sounds like someone has not just drank the kool-aid, but has taken off their bermudas and dived head first in the punch bowl.

I respect Indivisible for doing things right. They are not an idealogical splinter of Democrats...as the Tea Party was for Republicans, and they are not a bunch of loud mouth whiners who do not get anything REAL done, like the Wallstreet protestors.

Then why are all the Indivisible directors (Ezra Levin, Leah Greenberg, Angel Padilla) from Soros's Open Society? Why did Greenberg and Levin attend the Soros-funded Democracy Alliance Summit. Just a coincidence, right?

YES, it is irrelevent. You have people who have long worked in the Democratic party so it doesn't surprise me that you can connect them to Soros. The FACT is that connection does not mean Soros has any influence over Indivisible. All you are doing is spreading alt-right conspiracy theory.

This is no different then saying groups like "Skull and Bones" or the "Free Masons"/"Knights Templar" have control over our government because so many presidents are/were members. It's all just conspiracy theory crap....oh, and remember there is a pentagram defined by the streets in the middle of DC, and the Washington monument is an ancient Egyptian symbol, and the dollar bill features the "all seeing eye" at the top of an Egyptian pyramid, and George Washington was a master Mason who has a painting in full Mason dress. Oh, scary. Not.

But, believe what you want. In fact, the more Trump zombies who believe it is a splinter group that Soros supports, the better...don't take them seriously.

What I would say to any Democrats out there reading this...if you want to get involved in defeating the Trump agenda, look up an Indivisible group in your city or state, or start one. The group has already proven themselves to be very effective...again, they are part of the reason health care failed.

And, I'm done with this now.

[Monker]

Here's a part of Monkers "invisable groups".

http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-s ... ion-2017-6

My God, you are so dumb that you can't even misquote something without misspelling it, too.

This has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

[Boomchild]

[slucero]

LOL.....

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.


Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Exactly...they were an idealogical group. Indivisible isn't...they are an anti-Trump group.

In other words, the only thing the group stands for is being against Trump. Just like the Democratic Party. Tell me, what is indivisible about trying to divide the country with staged protests?

As for influence, The Tea Party, aka Freedom Caucus, are causing a major split in the Republican party and is another major reason no health care will be passed. And, this is a problem I predicted back when the Tea Party first started...they fractured the party.

And if the Tea Party wasn't there, Repubs would pass some Ryancare abomination. I'm glad it didn't get passed.

With Trump being the least popular President in history, after 200 days, you can't count on him winning reelection, or his influence carrying congressional wins. Trump is an incredibly weak President.

And the Democratic Party's standard bearer, Hillary, polls even lower than Trump. What does that tell you?

Irrelevent. Soros does not fund Indivisible. Soros does not have the ability to influence Indivisible since the groups start at the grass roots level by people who simply want to stop Trump.

Grassroots groups do not have a bunch of Soros-lackeys on their board of directors. REAL grassroots bottom-up orgs don't have a board of directors AT ALL.

I respect Indivisible for doing things right. They are not an idealogical splinter of Democrats...as the Tea Party was for Republicans, and they are not a bunch of loud mouth whiners who do not get anything REAL done, like the Wallstreet protestors.

LMAO. One of the first things on the Indivisible web page is this:

Tea Party-inspired strategy: locally focused, defensive congressional advocacy to protect our values (without the vitriol).

https://www.indivisibleguide.com/about-us/

If Tea Party did everything so wrong, why does Indivisible openly admit to copying their playbook?

YES, it is irrelevent. You have people who have long worked in the Democratic party so it doesn't surprise me that you can connect them to Soros.

You said the group was not connected to Soros at all. Which is it?

The FACT is that connection does not mean Soros has any influence over Indivisible. All you are doing is spreading alt-right conspiracy theory.

This is no different then saying groups like "Skull and Bones" or the "Free Masons"/"Knights Templar" have control over our government because so many presidents are/were members. It's all just conspiracy theory crap....oh, and remember there is a pentagram defined by the streets in the middle of DC, and the Washington monument is an ancient Egyptian symbol, and the dollar bill features the "all seeing eye" at the top of an Egyptian pyramid, and George Washington was a master Mason who has a painting in full Mason dress. Oh, scary. Not.

First you said Indivisible had no Soros ties. Now you are trying to diminish those exposed ties by throwing a bunch of tin foil bullshit up in the air. Care to explain why Indivisble gave a presentation to Soros's Democracy Alliance in March of this year? Oh wait. I'm sure that's alot like the grassy knoll or FEMA camps or, err, something.

What I would say to any Democrats out there reading this...if you want to get involved in defeating the Trump agenda, look up an Indivisible group in your city or state, or start one. The group has already proven themselves to be very effective...again, they are part of the reason health care failed.

Too funny. You just got finished claiming that Indivisible is a non-partisan, non-ideological "mainstream" group." Now you are trying to rally fellow Democrats to get involved with it. Sounds very non-partisan.

[slucero]

LOL.....

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.


Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

WIKI Leaks said it was a leak and not a hack last summer.

I know... the article mentions Assange sayin that... this is just ex-NSA guys confirming that...

[Monker]

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Not nearly as stupid as you to think the Tea Party is against Trump when the Tea Party would support Trump.

Well, then I'm glad I never said the Tea Party is against Trump. It's sad that your insane mind invents conversations that never happened.

The Tea Party wanted a total repeal of Obama's failure. That's what Trump wanted.

Trump campaigned and promised REPEAL AND REPLACE. He promised universal coverage. He promised provisions for pre-existing conditions. The truth is Trump was promoting a LARGER health care system than ObamaCare, but it would cost less for the best coverage available. In other words, Trump LIED and promised the impossible.

He just needs to get a foot in the door, which he just about did. It's the RINO's standing against him.and global socialist Idiots like you, that are on the way out.

I said the split in the party is what caused health care. You just admitted I was right.

Trump is for shrinking Government dumbass, not expanding it.

If Trump is for shrinking government dumbass, then he should resign and get his government dumbass out of politics.

He did NOT campaign for shrinking health care....he campaigned on expanding it, covering even more people, costing less, blah, blah, blah.

I'm glad TNC had the time to waste taking your post apart. It was so far off base, calling it bullshit just didn't seem to do it justice. You were talking about groups hiding in the shawdows.

That is a flat out lie. Indivisible is not "hiding in the shadows." Now you are just making shit up.

[Archetype]

China will likely intervene if a pre-emptive regime-destabilizing strike is launched against Pyongyang. Trump needs to stop fanning the flames of war to distract people from his domestic shortcomings. War on the Korean Peninsula would be an unmitigated disaster for all and ultimately accomplish nothing.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml

China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US retaliates, China will stay neutral. If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.

[Boomchild]

WIKI Leaks said it was a leak and not a hack last summer.

Gee, could that be the main reason the DNC refused to let the FBI examine their "hacked" servers?

[Boomchild]

China will likely intervene if a pre-emptive regime-destabilizing strike is launched against Pyongyang. Trump needs to stop fanning the flames of war to distract people from his domestic shortcomings. War on the Korean Peninsula would be an unmitigated disaster for all and ultimately accomplish nothing.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml

China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US retaliates, China will stay neutral. If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.

Trump must a real genius to be able to manipulate N. Korea's leadership to start and escalate their nuclear weapons program years before running for POTUS in order to use it as a deflection.

[The_Noble_Cause]

LOL.....

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.


Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

I posted this report here weeks ago. This same group of intel officials released a similar report about the Iraq WMD narrative. The whole thing is a con job. Why are we sanctioning Russia for something that has yet to be proven?

[Archetype]

China will likely intervene if a pre-emptive regime-destabilizing strike is launched against Pyongyang. Trump needs to stop fanning the flames of war to distract people from his domestic shortcomings. War on the Korean Peninsula would be an unmitigated disaster for all and ultimately accomplish nothing.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml

China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US retaliates, China will stay neutral. If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.

Trump must a real genius to be able to manipulate N. Korea's leadership to start and escalate their nuclear weapons program years before running for POTUS in order to use it as a deflection.

The North Koreans aren't doing anything new. They simply want the nuclear deterrence option that many other nations enjoy (including the USA and their 5,000+ nukes). Trump is suddenly turning it into a huge issue.

[tj]

LOL.....

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.


Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

I posted this report here weeks ago. This same group of intel officials released a similar report about the Iraq WMD narrative. The whole thing is a con job. Why are we sanctioning Russia for something that has yet to be proven?

Because it boxes Trump in and makes for good political posturing. RINOs want to undermine him at every possible chance, Dems the same. Republicans who support Trump are still reluctant to go against the party for fear of losing committee assignments, donor money, endorsements, etc.

[Monker]

You were talking about groups hiding in the shawdows.

I forgot, you actually believe "indivisible" equates to "invisable" (your spelling). You do know the Pledge of Allegiance, correct?

"One nation, under God, indivisible..." You think our nation is "invisable" and hiding in the "shawdows". Too funny!