DDY - WOW, check out this concert

[styxfanNH]

Tickets for NYC go on sale 1/26, $55. They are GA. BB Kings usually has a cover charge and the tables are pretty tight.

[styxfanNH]

Froy,

I will "shut the hell up" as you said when you can be constructive with your version of the facts and don't need to be corrected.

[froy]

Froy,

I will "shut the hell up" as you said when you can be constructive with your version of the facts and don't need to be corrected.

buzz off

[ChicagoSTYX]

I would much rather see Styx then this so called lost whatever crap. He is just trying to ride the coat tails of the hard work that Styx is now doing!

[Adam]

Froy: "Styxfan NH shut the hell up already your annoying"

Adam: What a sweet, wonderful attitude! Froy, you do your idol a disservice. I believe, when people are treated this way you only hurt your own cause.

And since I suspect fans tend to take on the personalities of their heroes, conversely, you make Dennis appear disrespectful, mean-spirited and self-righteous.

StyxfanNH treats you respectfully. You should be ashamed. What a happy, charming person you must be. I'll pass on dinner.

[ChicagoSTYX]

I think Froy and Dennis are a lot a like.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

ChicagoStyx says:

I would much rather see Styx then this so called lost whatever crap.

Then don't go see Dennis, go see Styx

We'll miss you

[sadie65]

I would much rather see Styx then this so called lost whatever crap. He is just trying to ride the coat tails of the hard work that Styx is now doing!

By all means, stay home. Not sure about those coat tails...hard work is hard work. And both sides are working pretty hard.

Lighten up.

Sadie

[styxfanNH]

I'll see Dennis, I'll see Tommy, I'll see JY, I'll see Chuck. Together, alone, or in different combinations they all have brought me music I consider Styx music. I know as does everyone here that the reason they broke up can equally be shared; there is enough blame to go around.

But in some eyes, it is everyones fault but Dennis. He calls out Chuck as if it was his fault they don't talk. Apparently in his eyes, Dennis's phone can only recieve calls. If Dennis wanted to talk to Chuck and have him on stage then he could easily pick up the phone.

You don't have to like me, Froy. But the points I make show the contradictions in your version of the truth. You're like the little kid that gets caught llieing and when called on it tries to divert attention to something else. (They're standing, ummm no its their hats, uhmm I can see them from here...) The truth is the truth. You don't have to like it. But it is what it is.

I'll see Dennis and cherish his talents and I'll see Tommy, JY, and Chuck and cherish those performances too. I expect different types of shows from each of them. Shows that personify their personalities. Just can't believe you would waste all that energy on what is really an insignificant matter. If you're gonna trash Styx as it is now, you are missing out on a real rock show. My tastes are wide enough to be able to appreciate both presentations.

[froy]

I would much rather see Styx then this so called lost whatever crap. He is just trying to ride the coat tails of the hard work that Styx is now doing!

Guess what your not invited to this show anyway
Stay home die hard Styx fans only

BTW Adam and NJ are on ignore
Enough of the 3rd grade crap

[bugsymalone]

I'll see Dennis and cherish his talents and I'll see Tommy, JY, and Chuck and cherish those performances too. I expect different types of shows from each of them. Shows that personify their personalities. Just can't believe you would waste all that energy on what is really an insignificant matter. If you're gonna trash Styx as it is now, you are missing out on a real rock show. My tastes are wide enough to be able to appreciate both presentations.

I think NH here has stated about as well as anyone the point of view of the fan who really likes both sides here. And appreciates what each brings to the concert table for those who buy the tickets.

Bravo.

Bugsy

[sadie65]

I'll see Dennis and cherish his talents and I'll see Tommy, JY, and Chuck and cherish those performances too. I expect different types of shows from each of them. Shows that personify their personalities. Just can't believe you would waste all that energy on what is really an insignificant matter. If you're gonna trash Styx as it is now, you are missing out on a real rock show. My tastes are wide enough to be able to appreciate both presentations.

I think NH here has stated about as well as anyone the point of view of the fan who really likes both sides here. And appreciates what each brings to the concert table for those who buy the tickets.

Bravo.

Bugsy

Absolutely. A very nice summation.

Sadie

[Liz22562]

StyxfanNH - I do not think anyone could have made a more perfect statement.

Bravo!

[DarrenUK]

I like both sides too I just get annoyed when anyone bashes current Styx. I dont agree with JY and his comments regarding DDY, DDY was probably the most important member in the bands history he was the man who in my opinion wrote the best songs, its just to me he lost it as a ROCK writer after Paradise Theater with the exception of Roseland and solo songs Desert Moon and Black Wall. He was more comfortable writing ballads and broadway style songs than classics like Queen Of Spades etc
If anyone bashes current Styx whether its here or down the pub I will always support them as Tommy and JY were part of something special, the greatest band that ever breathed gods air and even tho for reasons we all know the main members of the band are split there is no way I would bash them for wanting to do what they did. No it is not the same as it was even Brave New World shown the crack down the middle of this great band and if one day that crack can be fixed ide be one hell of a happy guy but until that day comes (If it ever does) I will carry on going to see Styx, DDY, Tommy solo, JY solo, Glen, Gowan solo even a Todd drum clinic (Well maybe not ) and buy their music. I have all DDY solo CD,s all Tommy,s all Glens, all JY,s, everything Styx done on CD/DVD and I also have about 25 hours of Styx live videos from Florida to Japan I also have live audio cassetes of concerts from 76,77,79,81,83. Nothing no matter how much either Styx or DDY is called will stop me buying their material or going to their shows.

[sadie65]

I like both sides too I just get annoyed when anyone bashes current Styx. I dont agree with JY and his comments regarding DDY, DDY was probably the most important member in the bands history he was the man who in my opinion wrote the best songs, its just to me he lost it as a ROCK writer after Paradise Theater with the exception of Roseland and solo songs Desert Moon and Black Wall. He was more comfortable writing ballads and broadway style songs than classics like Queen Of Spades etc
If anyone bashes current Styx whether its here or down the pub I will always support them as Tommy and JY were part of something special, the greatest band that ever breathed gods air and even tho for reasons we all know the main members of the band are split there is no way I would bash them for wanting to do what they did. No it is not the same as it was even Brave New World shown the crack down the middle of this great band and if one day that crack can be fixed ide be one hell of a happy guy but until that day comes (If it ever does) I will carry on going to see Styx, DDY, Tommy solo, JY solo, Glen, Gowan solo even a Todd drum clinic (Well maybe not ) and buy their music. I have all DDY solo CD,s all Tommy,s all Glens, all JY,s, everything Styx done on CD/DVD and I also have about 25 hours of Styx live videos from Florida to Japan I also have live audio cassetes of concerts from 76,77,79,81,83. Nothing no matter how much either Styx or DDY is called will stop me buying their material or going to their shows.

And yet, to several here, you seem to have no problem bashing Dennis DeYoung. I can appreciate your loyalty to a band whose music you enjoy. Whatever incarnation.

Dennis has admitted in interviews that he finds it easier to write ballads as opposed to rockers. I can respect that, especially since I can do neither.

Enjoy.

Sadie

[yogi]

Damn Sadie I thought it was you that wrote Music Time and Best New Face!

[sadie65]

Damn Sadie I thought it was you that wrote Music Time and Best New Face!

Shhhhh. Don't give away my secrets

Sadie

[DarrenUK]

I bash Dennis so much that ime forking out $1,500 to go and see him in Florida in April.........He is an expensive bash.
Maybe I should go and listen to the busker in the high street it would be a lot less expensive but not as enjoyable.

[Monker]

Froy,

I will "shut the hell up" as you said when you can be constructive with your version of the facts and don't need to be corrected.

LOL! That will happen when JY is playing ice hockey with Dennis!

[sadie65]

I bash Dennis so much that ime forking out $1,500 to go and see him in Florida in April.........He is an expensive bash.
Maybe I should go and listen to the busker in the high street it would be a lot less expensive but not as enjoyable.

Hey I know you've told us many times about coming here to see him. Iwas just pointing out that you do the same thing to others that you don't like. No worries, have a safe flight and enjoy the show.

Sadie

[LordofDaRing]

The current STYX is riding a lot of coattails....the beatles, Jimi Hendrix, and any other artist they are covering on this new CD, the songs that Dennis DeYong wrote and sang....not to mention the hard work of four other former members, two who are no longer with us, one who is battling a disease and one who wised up and said enough is enough!

[styxfanNH]

The current STYX is riding a lot of coattails....the beatles, Jimi Hendrix, and any other artist they are covering on this new CD, the songs that Dennis DeYong wrote and sang....not to mention the hard work of four other former members, two who are no longer with us, one who is battling a disease and one who wised up and said enough is enough!

This just doesn't hold up as an arguement. Cover songs are done by lots of artists of all genres including Dennis who has covered a number of songs from a variety of artists. The songs STYX does that many consider "Dennis" songs are really only a few in concert. It is nobodys fault that JC & JP have passed away, (and if that is your arguement, then the same can be said of Dennis), it is not the actions of anyone other than Chuck that he is battling that particular disease and he is still taking an active role in the band, and while you could argue that Glen may have left because of a variety of reasons including differences as how to bring the band back to prominence, he also has had issues with Dennis.

You can't slam Styx for doing the covers album without being equally critical of Dennis for doing the same.

[froy]

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You can't slam Styx for doing the covers album without being equally critical of Dennis for doing the same.

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Im sorry but your wrong
Dennis did 10 on Broadway as Dennis not Styx
He didnt even promote it
The Not Dead Yet Remake heck I never heard the original
Unlike I can see for Miles LocoBreath Walrus ECT all huge famous songs.
Go ahead praise Styx for doing a cover cd make sure you stick up for them no matter what they do They need guys like you to try and save them, This time nothing will save them the cover cd will be a huge bust.

[styxfanNH]

And you still refuse to say what it would have to do to be considered a success.

Perhaps you can tell us what criteria Universal will use to consider it a success.

[froy]

And you still refuse to say what it would have to do to be considered a success.

Perhaps you can tell us what criteria Universal will use to consider it a success.

Simple answer it would have to sell as much a EOTC hows that
Thats minor sucsess.
So far no current Styx releases has been a success not one
So it would have to sell more than carrot
It wont

[styxfanNH]

Simple answer it would have to sell as much a EOTC hows that
Thats minor sucsess.
So far no current Styx releases have been a success none
So it would have to sell more than carrot
It wont

And there is the problem with your criteria for success... Only a few bands of this era still have the popularity that they had some 15 years or so ago.

Your expectations are just unrealistic. With or without Dennis, STYX would not have that capability anymore.

Does anyone believe that if Dennis was still with the band, they would be able to achieve album sales greater than EOC?

The reality is that the approximately 15 years that the classic lineup spent apart has more to do with their popularity than anything else. It's the old addage, "Out of sight, Out of mind" and Styx during that time was definitelt out of the public's sight.

[LordofDaRing]

It was never meant to hold up as an argument, only to reply to a comment made in here (not by yourself), that DDY is riding the coattails of the current hard work of STYX. Put into that context, now how do you respond?

[styxfanNH]

OK, I missed the reference to the other post. My fault.

I guess in a way, you could make an arguement that ANY band that does a cover of another band's song could be said as trying to ride the coat tails of that band.

I don't agree with it. Because I don't beleive that any member of the original band would say, "I gotta get that cd of the band that covered the song" instead, I believe it would create more interest in those that originally recorded the song to see how they compare. A good example is IATW. No Beatles fan is going to buy the Styx album because STYX covered it. But there are fans out there that will buy Magical Mystery Tour to compare them.

As far as Dennis riding the coat tails of Styx... I wouldn't say that he is that either. He was a major part of the band, especially in their hey day. If anything, he is capitalizing on Styx's direction in ignoring his contributions that has created a larger market for those that connected to Dennis' songs as well as his absence in any major way to the recent rock scene.

There is a market for what Dennis is doing. And I am glad to see that he is back and can bring it to us.

[DarrenUK]

As a matter of interest how many copies did Brave New World sell ?

I have not seen the sales figures......

Did that sell as much as EOTC ?

[Abitaman]

I think it's a catch 22 here........Styx with Dennis, would not be seen as much, but may sell a few more cds, not like their heyday though. Styx without Dennis, tours everywhere, is seen more, but "maynot" sell as good as Styx with Dennis.
Styx would not be seen by as many people in concert, and Styx maybe out with a orchestra now, which wouldn't be a bad idea. But would be a lot of down time between cds. Look how long Dennis has taken to get a cd out, and it was a live cd!
I'm not knocking his cd, it's great, but it's still a year or so away from a studio cd from him.
Styx is releaseing something yearly (most of it live and best of's), but a least they are out there making a name for there self again. Let everyone know they are still here and rocking.
Dennis, how I would love to see in concert, will more than likely never be anywhere close to were I live.
Since 1996 with the RETURN TO PARADISE tour Styx with Dennis has been to my area NEW ORLEANS TO MOBILE AL. 2 times with Dennis, and from 1999 at least 8 times.
SO, Styx maybe getting a little old on the market, but how much would it cahnge with Dennis in the group? Same songs, but seeing them less.
At least now, depending on where you live, you can see Styx, and Dennis shows. If your more into rock see Styx, Ballads see Dennis. Or if your like me, go see both. Of course the best think would be it staying like it is, with Dennis pulling a Chuck now and then, showing up, then going to do his own thing again-ERIC