styx in indiana 1/29 review

[artinis1]

from nick,
first off, let me say i have been a fan of styx and have seen them live
about 25 times over the last 25 years, and i can appreciated both deyoung and styx alone, but i gotta tell you, the show last night and the shows on this recent tour are becoming very predictable and outright boring, yes they have energy and play tight, but the setlist is terrible, yes i know they have to play certain songs and of course deyoung staples such as lady, grand illusion and come sail away, and the medley is cool, but i would rather hear some of those songs in their entirety, tommy could pick from so many great songs, lights, man in the wilderness, love in the midnight, great white hope, oh well you can go on and on, and then the encore is bascially a covers show, ray charles, hendrix and of course the dreaded i am the walrus, even the current journey has pulled out some great old classics and some obscure tunes on their recent tour, what are these guys thinking, again i am not criticizing the effort of the band, todd on drums is one of the best i have ever seen, but it is the first time i have been to a styx show and could not wait for it to end, heck play brave new world, i will be your witness, with glen out of the band, tommy could add a few songs and still give gowan one of his own songs, i am just curious as to what anyone else thinks, but with a new covers cd coming out, i am not going to be in a hurry to see styx live for awhile, and it might have to take a reunion with deyoung for this to happen

[Ash]

I thought one of the problems many people who don't like Dennis had was that the set list never varried much from the Paradise Theater tour onward... I thought this was a big source of grief.

I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.

On the covers - get used to it... they're doing a WHOLE ALBUM of covers for their next trick and are likely getting ready for their cover song tour coming up to promote it.

[DarrenUK]

That does it......I have 3 tickets for shows in the UK and after reading that review ime going to sell all my tickets and miss their first tour here in 24 years........

NOT

[froy]

from nick,
first off, let me say i have been a fan of styx and have seen them live
about 25 times over the last 25 years, and i can appreciated both deyoung and styx alone, but i gotta tell you, the show last night and the shows on this recent tour are becoming very predictable and outright boring, yes they have energy and play tight, but the setlist is terrible, yes i know they have to play certain songs and of course deyoung staples such as lady, grand illusion and come sail away, and the medley is cool, but i would rather hear some of those songs in their entirety, tommy could pick from so many great songs, lights, man in the wilderness, love in the midnight, great white hope, oh well you can go on and on, and then the encore is bascially a covers show, ray charles, hendrix and of course the dreaded i am the walrus, even the current journey has pulled out some great old classics and some obscure tunes on their recent tour, what are these guys thinking, again i am not criticizing the effort of the band, todd on drums is one of the best i have ever seen, but it is the first time i have been to a styx show and could not wait for it to end, heck play brave new world, i will be your witness, with glen out of the band, tommy could add a few songs and still give gowan one of his own songs, i am just curious as to what anyone else thinks, but with a new covers cd coming out, i am not going to be in a hurry to see styx live for awhile, and it might have to take a reunion with deyoung for this to happen

Nick your a person I respect when it comes to a review
Good or bad you say it from your heart and I respect that
What you have Nick is a band who is lazy and is just collecting a pay check,

When I say lazy I mean lazy in putting together a creative show

Gee do they run back and forth from
one end of the stage to the other durring Renegade

Is it as long as JY is buyin during Too Much Time on My Hands .

Now you know why I would not set foot in a show with the name STYX on the ticket ,

These guys are milking you poor guys dry with the same old song and Dance,

Is Larry Gowan a creative force in STYX right now has he even done 1 percent of what Dennis did in his carreer with the band ?
Not a chance he's a pawn all he's got is a terrible version of IATW which is a total joke,

Am I happy that Jim and Tom have ruined STYX no freakin way,

When STYX did a concert with Dennis it was an event
Now its a joke, Fans sitting on there hands hearing the same songs year after year,

Look at Dennis the lost Treasures show,
Guys this is going to be my first STYX concert in 7 years ,
Im ready for it

Next time STYX tries to pawn themselves off in your town say no thanks I pass,,

Nick are you going to Dennis at the HOB in Chicago?

[artinis1]

from nick,
yes i just got the email from his website, i would love to go to the house of blues show, i will let you know for sure,
this really looks like it is going to be great

[bugsymalone]

the shows on this recent tour are becoming very predictable and outright boring

They have worn the treads off this bus and it is time to park it for awhile.

Bugsy

[DarrenUK]

Well lets see what DDY might say...

1) He will tell us how many years he has been married just before Babe
2) He will say dreams can come true just before Come Sail Away.
3) If Grand Illusion does not open the set he will tell us not to believe in rock stars as thats all bullshit....etc before it starts.


Just to prove that like carrot styx Dennis will probably do the same.
Personally I would drop Renegade from the set, it has never been one of my fave songs, ide much prefer Just Get Through This Night or Man In The Wilderness.....

I will post my review from the three Styx concerts I am attending in June and the DDY show in April. I hope people will say i gave all shows a fair review , and not pull it to pieces if i actually like the shows.
For instance Darren likes the Styx shows so its obvious he does not know what he is talking about or if I criticise the shows its a case of well said Darren.....When I seen Styx twice in 2000 in Germany they were incredible 2 hours 20 minutes of pure heaven, yes I would of loved DDY to be there but i still thought it was awesome.

[Ash]

All acts do "canned" and prepackaged stuff in their show. It's not a secret and it's not new. To critisize a band for having a "schtick" is kinda retarded if you ask me and a band with a set schtick isn't a bad thing. Bands typically do that so that they can be so familiar with the material and the order that they don't have to really think about it too much and they can go out and put on a killer show without having to worry about being on the same page with the rest of the band. It's pretty damn standard because the cues the band looks for are all a part of the stage act.

I'm really surprised for as experienced of concert goers we have here that some are still critical of these things which are really a fundamental part of putting on a good rock show (having a standard schtick).

[artinis1]

from nick,
it's not so much the stange antics that i am criticizing, but the setlist, and yes, when dennis was in the band, they did basically play the same setlist, but it was bascially a greatest hits reunion, with dennis you are going to hear babe, best of times, show me the way, madame blue, don't let it end, my disappointment with last night, is that they claim this is the best band they ever had, so prove it to us, play a few more obscure songs for the diehards, you can still play all your hits, but please drop the covers, i did not drop over $100 last night in tickets and drinks and food to hear jy praise hendrix, tommy pay tribute to ray charles and gowan's silly rendition of the beatles, play your own songs, the best part of the show is the goofy medley, and i only call it goofy because just about everyone i talked to said, wow, that was great, but why don't they play some of those songs and get rid of gowan's and the covers, i also think and i may be wrong that if the band reunited with dennis today, even dennis would change the setlist around, he started doing this with his last few shows and with the lost treasures is continuing, they have so many great songs, it would be nice to hear them live, i will say this, the highlight besides the medley is one with everything, this is really a great song,
again i love styx, but i won't waste any more time or money going to see them if this is it

[sadie65]

All acts do "canned" and prepackaged stuff in their show. It's not a secret and it's not new. To critisize a band for having a "schtick" is kinda retarded if you ask me and a band with a set schtick isn't a bad thing. Bands typically do that so that they can be so familiar with the material and the order that they don't have to really think about it too much and they can go out and put on a killer show without having to worry about being on the same page with the rest of the band. It's pretty damn standard because the cues the band looks for are all a part of the stage act.

I'm really surprised for as experienced of concert goers we have here that some are still critical of these things which are really a fundamental part of putting on a good rock show (having a standard schtick).

I live not far from where STyx just played. It's in Chicago's backyard. I could find no reviews. Nor did it sell out. No conclusions. What it tells me is that the band, while still very entertaining, is wearing out it's welcome because they haven't stopped touring.

Now, I am not going to suggest their show isn't entertaining, not by a long shot. I agree with Ash. Each performer/band/artist develops stage patter that works for them.

Be it those lines that Froy or Darren referenced, or certain songs played over and over.

Now, while I love Dennis in concert, if I never heard Babe again, I'd be happy. But since that isn't going to happen, I just accept that he does it well and move on.

Styx is a band trying to keep what it believes is it's identity but still add something new to the mix. This go around it's cover tunes. While I myself am not wowed by it, I do give them points for at least trying.

I don't have issues with people enjoying one or the other or both. What I have issues with are when people make comparisons as if each show were the same thing from Dennis and Styx. They are separate animals. I am encouraged by the fact that each, in their own way, is revising their set lists.

Sadie (who will be at the Lost Treasures show)

[froy]

All acts do "canned" and prepackaged stuff in their show. It's not a secret and it's not new. To critisize a band for having a "schtick" is kinda retarded if you ask me and a band with a set schtick isn't a bad thing. Bands typically do that so that they can be so familiar with the material and the order that they don't have to really think about it too much and they can go out and put on a killer show without having to worry about being on the same page with the rest of the band. It's pretty damn standard because the cues the band looks for are all a part of the stage act.

I'm really surprised for as experienced of concert goers we have here that some are still critical of these things which are really a fundamental part of putting on a good rock show (having a standard schtick).

The standard schtick is stale old and boring
As long as JY is buying has been around for 20 years its not creative anymore. Dennis talking about Dreams is a message he is sending and its a good one, Them running back and forth during Renegade again is old so old its 25 years old. You mean to tell me they can't think up something new? Even YES dropped Roundabout because the fans got tired of it , Im sure this Styx could play songs like Man In The Wilderness
Suite Madmoiselle Lights Double Life Midnight Ride ECT. Instead there doing Ray Charles thats just foolish . I would have walked out also.

[BlackWall]

This is interesting.. I'm from the Columbus area of Ohio; I had the chance to see Dennis last April and Styx sometime in... was it June? Even though I've made my perspective on things pretty clear(as far as the fact that they are better off doing their own things), I have to admit, I walked away from the Dennis show feeling much more satisfied.. Yeah, Styx has energy, but the setlist really is pretty bland.. I agree about dropping "Renegade", but come on, can they really drop their biggest hit(without Dennis)? I understand why they have to do all the staples, not everyone attending these shows are fans like us, so they might not care so much about hearing things like "Lights", "Queen Of Spades", but.. rather than doing that whole medley, they could fit in at least two complete tracks, and why not make them lesser known songs? Then, they really should not do "Lady", I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Gowan sounds absolutely horrible on it, and as much as the band complained about Dennis' songs to Suzanne, this really shows some nerve. Also, I can't remember for sure, but if they are still doing "Miss America", for God's sake, give it a rest. I feel like that is a song that has been forced upon Styx fans for years.. I know some here like it, and I do kind of like the studio version, but.. it's just so tired, and I feel like they just have always needed to throw a J.Y. song into the mix, and that's the one they've always gone with. "These Are The Times" is so refreshing, and it'd be great, instead of "Miss America", to get a song like "Doube Life" or "Half Penny, Two Penny".

[kansas666]

from nick,
first off, let me say i have been a fan of styx and have seen them live
about 25 times over the last 25 years,

Perhaps that's your problem.

They are not playing for the few rabid fans that travel to their shows. They are playing for the new and casual fans that are seeing them for the first or second time. This accounts for most of the audience.

[froy]

from nick,
first off, let me say i have been a fan of styx and have seen them live
about 25 times over the last 25 years,

Perhaps that's your problem.

They are not playing for the few rabid fans that travel to their shows. They are playing for the new and casual fans that are seeing them for the first or second time. This accounts for most of the audience.

Funny I just read that Styx boasted how they saw so many of the same faces at there shows They thanked them for traveling from show to show to see them. Sure they are preying on the nieve Styx fan but they do acknowledge the rabid STYX fan the ones that are left that is,

[yogi]

This is a good assembly line that has turned COMPLETELY pointless. BOTH Styx and Dennis play basically the same setlist because there are certain songs the casual fan MUST hear, and the promoter must have to sell tickets.

Froy ripping the current band about their setlist is a joke. I can promise you even at the 'lost treasures' concert Dennis will play Babe, Lady, Come Sail Away, The Grand Illusion, Dont Let It End, Roboto, Suite Madame Blue, The Best Of Times, Show Me The Way, and maybe Rockin The Paradise.

Dennis once stated( 1999 interview can be found at Styxcollector.com) that Roseland was a great song and he pleaded with the label to release it as a single. Has he ever played this 'Great ' song live? He said the same about It Takes Love, hell, he must of really like First Time because he wanted it to follow Babe. Has Dennis EVER played any of these live??

The point to all this is to rip Styx for their setlist you better rip Dennis and basically ALLLL the other bands still out there playing that have numerous hits. Because thats what they ALL play.

Styx actually has mixed it up playing three songs ( used to be four ) from Cyclorama, plus now some covers, and the 18 minute medley.

Add the total time of the 18 minute medley, plus the five or six other 'non Styx' staple songs, and you probably have close to 50 minutes of 'obscure' Styx type recordings.

Add up what Dennis does obscure and lets compare.

I would LOVE a 'nonhit' concert from both or either. Hell I'll give you a setlist. I'd pay just about anything to see a concert like this. But I realize this will NEVER happen, and I'm smart enough not to bitch about one side doing something, when the other side is doing EXACTLY the same thing. If they didnt play the hits after a year or so NO one would book either one of them. But what a non- hit setlist I could come up with......

Born For Adventure
Man In The Wilderness
Heavy Water
Love At First Sight
What Have They Done To You
Roseland
Wont Go Wasted
Stop Knockin
Who I Am
Just Get Through This Night
Paradise
It's All In How You Say It
Golden Lark
A Song For Suzanne
Do Things My Way
Midnight Ride
Love In The Midnight
I'm OK
Dear John
Little Suzie
On My Way
I could go on and on and on..................

Finally, how anyone can critcize something that they have NEVER seen in person is beyond me.

[froy]

Froy ripping the current band about their setlist is a joke. I can promise you even at the 'lost treasures' concert Dennis will play Babe, Lady, Come Sail Away, The Grand Illusion, Dont Let It End, Roboto, Suite Madame Blue, The Best Of Times, Show Me The Way, and maybe Rockin The Paradise.

Hey Yogi Nick ripped the setlist not Froy
Learn to read ok.

The point to all this is to rip Styx for their setlist you better rip Dennis and basically ALLLL the other bands still out there playing that have numerous hits. Because thats what they ALL play.

[color=cyan]
Yogi 600 shows with the same setlist is ridiculous
Dennis never did this in his career
Go ahead stick up for your great band STYX who is losing fans daily
Only you and ADAM will be left hanging on[/color]

Styx actually has mixed it up playing three songs ( used to be four ) from Cyclorama, plus now some covers, and the 18 minute medley.

The medley how lame is that medley
MY God

Finally, how anyone can critcize something that they have NEVER seen in person is beyond me.

[/quote]

Nick saw it YOGI and he criticized it
I backed him up
Styx is lame today tommorow next week nothing changes not even the setlist.

[yogi]

Froy,

If Nick would of written it was a GREAT show you would of written back saying Styx is dead and he has no clue what he is talking about.

You wrote about the Lost Treasures show, and a Styx concert with Dennis being an event. Will the Lost Treasures show be truly that? or will it be DDY staples with maybe 5 or 6 obscure tracks mixed in?? If its the latter, thats exactly what the current band is doing plus add the medley.

My comment was that when Dennis was with Styx the setlist hardly changed. The setlist just depended on the tour, but the 'regular' staples were there. Dennis as a solo act also plays the same songs over and over again too.

Maybe Styx could surround themselves with some live Walruses when they play I Am The Walrus. Dennis could dress Suzanne up as The Queen Of Spades and prance her around for that song. Maybe we could bring the old sword fight back whatever..

The bottom line is I too respect Nick's assessment of the show. But coming from you, a man who has NEVER seen them play, and praises every DDY bowel movement as something beautiful and magnanimous your opinion as to the state of Styx and Styx fans is laughable.

[artinis1]

from nick,
hey guys, i hate to beat this topic up, but really the point i am trying to make is that, this recent version of styx according to jy and tommy is the best band they have ever had, so take some chances, show us what you can do, why have gowan butcher lady and grand illusion,
obviously they feel they can't do a show without these, and why is jy singing loreli, i mean those are three songs they could easily replace, and has for the medley, you hear seconds of songs and that's why it sucks, the covers are a joke, if you were to replace all of the above you could easily still play all the hits and probably another 6 or 7 great songs, and yes i agree other bands play the same setlist night after night and other bands don't, so what is the point, that styx tours just about as much as any band but is just as uninspiring as other bands, i don't get it , just cause some bands do this, why should styx, after all this is their best lineup, they have repeatedly told us that time after time, why are they so insecure, lose some of the dennis songs and show some creativity, i am telling you, i was with 6 friends, all styx fans since the late seventies and has we walked out, everyone agreed that we are done with styx, and we are the fan base that they can't lose, the late 30 and early 40 year old males who have supported this band for years, who's gonna go to the covers tour, no one i know

[SuiteMadameBlue]

This is Nick's opinion/review of a concert that he recently saw. Let's be nice

I have a few Carrot Styx friends that travel show to show across the U.S. to see them. They have complained too that it's the same show and are disappointed with the "covers" being added, that's their opinions. But they'll still continue to follow them around. They're probably "the familiar faces" that are seen at every show - LOL

I'm going to admit it on here , but I've seen Carrot Styx a few times with my hard core Styx fans and to film a documentary (remember me bragging last year). I thought the Cyclomedley was too loud and too mashed together. People around me really wanted to hear the whole songs and were very disappointed to hear little snippets. So I can add my opinion since I've seen almost all the versions of Styx.

With all the touring, to me, they really seemed more tired and not as fun as the past. Then again, maybe they're just getting older. When I talked with JY at the Harley Fest concert, he said that he wished that he could've been up here earlier and also stay for all the events. But do to the tour, that couldn't happen.

From what I have read, Styx will continue with their set-list, but is adding more cover songs to support the new album/cd that will be released. By the way, it looks like they changed the album/cd title to "Big Bang Theory".

As for Dennis' Lost Treasure's show. He's been practicing songs with the band. Right now I'm not sure how many songs from the way past that are going to be added. I took a survey on most of the Styx & DDY sites and passed it along to him of what songs fans would like to hear. If I remember correctly, the top 3 were "Born For Adventure", "Pieces of Eight" and "I'm Okay".

I'm pretty sure he's NOT going to do Born For Adventure. But that can change.

Hey Nick, I'll be in Chicago too

[ek88]

Several people seem to be indicating that there's more and more grumbling among current Styx audiences about the Cyclomedley (versus playing the entire songs). This leads me to believe that there are a lot more older Styx fans at these shows than I thought. Either that, or the casual fan has a greater knowledge of the Styx catalog than I would've thought. Or possibly the grumbling is being exaggerated. So which one is it? Anyone care to speculate?

[artinis1]

from nick,
at the star plaza on saturday, i would say the average age of the crowd
was in the late 30's, there were some teenagers here and there, but i think the base fan is basically anywhere from 35 and on, and this i why i think people want to hear complete songs instead of a medley, i may be in the minority on this, but i hate medleys, anyone else

[yogi]

Nick,

I agree with almost EVERYTHING you say. I too wish instead of the medley they would pick some of those songs on a particular night and just go with those, then mix it up from night to night.

I too would ditch all of the DDY led songs and play more obscure tracks. They have more than enough GREAT music to do this. Why cant Tommy, JY, Lawerence or even Glen when he was in Styx play a solo song or two.

If they did ditch all the Dennis led tunes, fans would bitch about Styx erasing the past.

Again, I TOTALLY agree with you , BUT...... can they really do this?? The people here are the die hards. Even if there is only 1500 at a show I would bet maybe only 100 of them are the diehards, if that. The casual fan I would bet makes up 75 % of the audience. The casual fan that has heard Styx a few times wants to hear the hits. Without the hits the majority of the audience goes home pissed. That is why ALL groups are 'slaves ' to their hit songs.

Why did Glen do most of Tommys hits on the Edge tour?? Same EXACT reason.
Why will Dennis play all of his hits on his lost treasure shows? Same EXACT reason.

I agree with what you say, but in this case the die-hard fans lose, and thats a fact.

[Adam]

FROY: Yogi 600 shows with the same setlist is ridiculous
Dennis never did this in his career

ADAM: Nor did Styx. Are you suggesting they performed 1. These Are The Times, 2. Waiting For Our Time To Come, 3. Fields Of The Brave, 4. Kiss Your Ass Goodbye, 5. Love Is The Ritual, 6. Criminal Mind, 7. I Am The Walrus and 8. the Cyclo-Medley in 1999? The "600 shows" count begins six years ago.

And there are a number of songs they HAVEN'T played in years, which they were performing back then. That includes Witness, Brave New World, Everything Is Cool, Edge Of The Century, Heavy Water, Sometimes Love Just Aint Enough, Half Penny Two Penny, and High Enough.

Just addressing the facts here, Sir.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

For those who didn't hear the Cyclomedley, here is a file. This was posted on the Styxboard:

http://www.singfortheday.com/styxfest/s ... Medley.mp3

[sadie65]

Over the past 6 years, each "side" has changed set lists. Each has kept specific songs because they are expected to. While each may add new material (be it new, covers, deep cuts, whatever) they cannot lose te material that got them recognition in the first place.

At a certain point in anyone's career, they begin to recognize that newer material isn't what the paying fan is looking for necessarily. They become nostalgia acts. Styx and Dennis are no different.

Ove the years, I've read countless setlists from each, and the material does change. And whenever you change something, somebody's going to be unhappy with it. Fact of life.

I think the trick for everyone is to find the right balance.

I don't have a problem with them not singing Dennis led material or with them singing it. If they drop it, I'm ok and I don't view it as them erasing the past. I think this term has gotten misunderstood. For ME, erasing the past was reading interviews where Dennis' role was diminished or excluded, (such as the Rockers cd) but I'VE also made peace with it. By the same token, the band has to forge a new identity, but not lose the fans they have. So certain songs will always be included. Period.
If they keep it, as I explained, I also undersand why.

Dennis has added and dropped material as well over the same period of time. It's a balancing act. And one I don't envy either side trying to do.

Sadie

[froy]

For those who didn't hear the Cyclomedley, here is a file. This was posted on the Styxboard:

http://www.singfortheday.com/styxfest/s ... Medley.mp3

What a mish mosh thats for sure
Gowan just butchers Spades just awefull
I have an idea they should play every song all the way through cut Roboto and Spades and Rockin The Pardaise and Castle walls
then the setlist would be 50 percent better
The medley is a bad idea for such great songs,

[yogi]

The medley is a SHOWCASE of nonhit Styx songs and a TOTAL showcase of the talent of drummer Todd Sucherman. Seeing it live is VERY VERY impressive. Todd works his ass of, and proves he is one of the GREATEST drummers of any era.

I guess it was a little over a year ago we saw Styx in Laredo with some friends that are casual fans at best. The highlights for them were the songs: Come Sail Away, Renegade, Kiss Your Ass Goodbye with Glen running thru the crowd, and they both loved the medley. They both couldnt believe the energy Todd put into that song, they loved it.

The medley is a bad idea for us the diehard fan, as is not playing Born For Adventure, as is Kilroy Was Here the album.

[froy]

The medley is a bad idea for us the diehard fan, as is not playing Born For Adventure, as is Kilroy Was Here the album.

[/quote]


The medley is a bad idea for any fan why tease people?
Born For Adventure is a great song
I think Dennis likes to do Madame Blue Instead
Maybe someday we will see BFA

[bugsymalone]

Whoo. We have gone all over the map with this subject here.

First, I agree with Sadie (and others) as to setlists and what is or is not included in the band's (and Dennis') shows.
A fine line must be walked and they do have to maintain balance with their setlist to please the fans, old and new.
I would guess newer fans would enjoy hearing "I Am the Walrus" while the die-hards would much rather that song be sustituted with ... (fill-in-the- blank) Classic Styx tune.

My quarrel, stated way up in the beginning of this thread, is Current Styx DOES need to park the bus for awhile. The shows have lost any special quality they might have had just because the ARE special when there aren't hundreds of them, played over and over, often in the same areas.

I don't necessarily want to see Dennis DeYoung 10 or 20 or 30 times in a year, but I would love to see him once or twice a year and that is what I have been doing. And each show has been, and will be, just slightly different. Very cool for me. And very special.

Cyclomedley:

Listened to it with a OPEN mind. Honest! I PROMISE!

I came away with a few thoughts. Yes, Todd is a terrific drummer and he does showcase his skills on this, perhaps a bit too much for my taste. The drums overwhelm some of the songs.
All the current members play really well and sound good, together, and tight on their instruments.
None of the current members can sing worth a flip anymore. Even Tommy sounded strained and was reaching for the notes.
And I am not sure my ears will EVER recover from hearing Gowan shriek the lines from "Queen of Spades." ACK!

I think the medley is a very good idea since they are not performing those songs in the set and it give the CASUAL fan a reference point for exactly who and what music Styx made in its storied past.
Just for pete's sake, KGAFTM (Keep Gowan Away From The Mike!)

Bugsy

[yogi]

As long as they are out there, still plugging along and playing everywhere to anybody, and creating music they still have a chance to recapture some fame.

I REALLY believe JY, Tommy and the others believe once that bus is parked it aint going back out again..... EVER!!!

Rock on STYX!!!!!!!!!!