Augeri......Right choice? Wrong choice?-Debate.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Where in the Hell do you get off saying I am possessed with one singer?

Umm, have you ever bothered to take a look at your own screen name?

More importantly, have you ever stopped and questioned your whole reason for being here?

Answer that.
-Why are you here, exactly?
Can you answer that without mentioning Steve Perry's name?
-I bet you can't.
You don't talk about Journey, be it old or new.
All you do is find ways of sabotaging peoples threads to be about the man you are obssessed with; Steve Perry.

Stop trying to disguise yourself as a lover of todays Journey in order to find and attack the fans of Steve Perry!.

You were the one who repeatedly brought Steve Perry into this thread. Not me.

[perryfaithful]

Where in the Hell do you get off saying I am possessed with one singer?

Umm, have you ever bothered to take a look at your own screen name?

Besides, for what other reason do you hang on this Journey board?
Answer that. Why are you here?
You don't talk about Journey, be it old or new.
All you do is find ways of sabotaging peoples threads to be about the man you are obssessed with; Steve Perry.

Stop trying to disguise yourself as a lover of todays Journey in order to find and attack the fans of Steve Perry!.

You were the one who repeatedly brought Steve Perry into this thread. Not me.

LOL! there you go....I have the name Perry in my "nic" so now you have decided my whole resume based on that?? You can not handle it....you go insane and loose your ability to think straight when the mans name comes up. My enjoyment of this singer is not the problem, your hatred of him IS!!!!!! See if you can talk about Journey without reacting to the name Perry and we will see your true stuff!

I am on a Journey board because I am a Journey fan......

[The_Noble_Cause]

You don't know jack about me! Or anyone else here!

You are a FANATICAL PERRY HATER and your whole agenda here is to lie in wait for someone to profess their enjoyment of the man and you POUNCE...with such HATRED that you forget to make sense. Holes everywhere.....and they are getting larger every day!
Stop trying to disguise yourself as a lover of todays Journey in order to find and attack the fans of Steve Perry! [/color]

Funny how you make a point to claim that I don't know jack about you and then proceed to psycho-analyze me and inform me as to just what exactly I am all about and what my agenda is.
Hillarious.
Unbeknowst to your dim-bulb self, you just perpetrated the very injustice that you went out of your way to reprimand me for.
If I don't know jack about you, what makes you think that you are somehow endowed with the gift of knowledge when it comes to the subject of me?

Holes everywhere.....and they are getting larger every day!

Talk about holes. I think some sawdust just trickled out of your left ear.

[The_Noble_Cause]

there you go....I have the name Perry in my "nic" and you have now decided my whole resume based on that!

Nope. I base it on your actions. For example, this thread was about replacement singers. It posed the question, if not Augeri, then who was best suited to carry the vocal torch so-to-speak. It was all about the future of the band, not the past. It wasn't about whether or not "replacing Perry" was the right move. It was just about replacements. Then you dug up and posted quotes from people negatively commenting on the idea of the new lineup to further your agenda and vindicate your belief that the current lineup has no right to even exist.
This is just one example. You do it all the time.

See if you can talk about Journey without reacting to the name Perry and we will see your true stuff!

Most of my posts aren't about Steve Perry. In fact, I did my absolute best to preseve the initial intent of this thread and not allow it to get adulterated by your pro-Perry agenda. Alas, one can only take so much.
I have every right to react to Perry's name when its being purposefully shoehorned into my threads where he was/is not the topic, and is only done so as to subvert non-Perry-related topics and get them onto the topic of your beloved demigod.

I am on a Journey board because I am a Journey fan......

Might wanna re-think that statement.
Last time I checked Journey is:

Neal Schon-lead guitar
Jonathan Cain-keyboards
Ross Valory-Bass guitar
Deen Castronovo- drums
Steve Augeri-lead vocals

[yak]

Good Grief!.... where do I start?


yak wrote:

Last time I looked PEDOPHILIA was a serious crime.

perryfaithful wrote:

sure is.......

OR

perryfaithful wrote:

JourneyTroll wrote:
If Michael Jackson beats his diddler case, then he should be the new lead singer of Journey. Think about it. Journey would be swamped with press converage at every gig. Journey would be in the news everyday. Michael Jackson is a great singer, dancer, and showman. He would bring life into Journey and attract so many new fans! Finally, Michael Jackson would regain his title as the King of Pop, so it's a win-win situation!

Journeytroll

PF: Oh Troll, ya got me LMAO!


Make up your mind which way you want to go with this, since you can't have it both ways. Your head must spin around your neck in complete circles.

Seems to me though that Jackson has not been tried and CONVICTED as yet, so what are you doing??

You might want to check http://thesmokinggun.com/

Perhaps his people should call your people and have a talk.

Getting tired of your threats to get somebody to talk to me about my posts. It's getting as old as a desperate frumpy housewife posting on a message board.

The original point of Troll's message, and yours, since you thought he/she was funny about it, is that Jackson should be leading a great band like Journey. I found that an insult, and NOT the least bit funny, given the current circumstances. You two are sick people. And for your information Troll, Jackson isn't quite as popular as some in his camp would want you to think. Seems there were only a couple of dozen "fans" who showed at the last court appearance. That would be the one before he allegedly...ahem...got sick in his limo. Must have found out enroute what was about to break on the net.

And Noble Cause is correct when he says you are hijacking a thread. You must be so aggravated that your tarnished idol has no solo plans of his own, that you have to take it out on somebody.

[PROPERRY]

It seems somewhat contradictive to say "Augeri is a fantastic singer", and then in the next statement say that there are "better singers out there".

Being that I am sane and my affinity for this band doesn't go any further than that, and in no ways reaches the blind-zealot, cult-like, idolatry levels of yourself, I am not suprised in the slightest that this is hard for you to grasp.

See, I am not obssessed with one singer (as you and PF are with Steve Perry). I own multiple cds from multiple bands and am fully capable of listening to & enjoying more than one singer. I know this concept might seem revolutionary to you, but I assure you, most music fans can & do listen to more than one singer. Most even acknowledge that some are better singers than the others, and find this to have no bearing on liking their respective music.
I like Augeri, but I do think there were better choices out there.
This by no means implies that he is currently doing a lackluster job, I think he is a great frontman! However, would I have preffered to have seen Chalfant get the job? Sure. Does this in any way hinder my enjoyment of new music or my concert-going experiences? Nope. The lack of Chalfant's presence deters from the show about as much as Rolie's absence does. In that, yeah, in a perfect world, I'd both rather see them up there on that stage, but truthfully, when the show actually starts neither of the two enter my mind. Most of all, I am thankfull for what I have.

Nobody is saying Augeri stinks and Chalfant is good.
It's not that clear cut or black and white.
Augeri is great and Chalfant may be just a tad slightly greater.

My response to you was not attacking you in anyway that you had to get all worked up about & then resort to childish name calling over a post.

You don't personally know me, so you wouldn't know what other kinds of music I listen to & enjoy. The main topic of this board is Journey, so it makes sense that we ALL discuss ONLY Journey related topics here.

YES, I'm a Perry Fan!

That does not make me a fanactic, and it certainly does not make me a fanatic, just simply because my views are DIFFERENT than yours.


Lori

[Monker]

And, when people quote something like the stuff below, they should quote the ENTIRE THING. You left of the last bit where Kevin says this, "I guess at their stage in the game, they have to weigh out their options. Tour without Perry or not tour… that is not a hard decision. Steve Augeri is a talented guy. He is giving it his best. I credit him with that. I don’t know if I should even go there, I don’t know if I really should be saying this stuff. It isn’t my place to say any of this. You asked me for the truth in my mind and there it is. You know that I love you guys! "

....and speaking of Kevin Chalfant, here are a few of his own words

yes, I do miss Steve Perry. Many people have compared me to Steve Perry, but I will say that if you go to Streator, Illinois and ask people “Does Kevin Chalfant sound like Steve Perry?” Well, they will probably say that Steve Perry sounds like Kevin Chalfant! He —Perry—definitely got out of the blocks a lot earlier than me, and I admire him a great deal. I didn’t have the intention of joining HIS band. I moved out and joined another band, and things happen, you meet people and one thing leads to another—they saw an opportunity and I saw an opportunity and we both just took advantage of that. But there’s a lot of people that miss that guy, and I’m one of them.

In fact, I’ll go as far as to say that in all due respect, I am not going to say anything negative, but when I go to the Journey shows—I miss Steve Perry up there. I mean, I know these guys and I love ‘em like brothers. I just saw them in Chicago and I thought they sounded the best I’d heard them with Steve A. to date. I mean they seemed to really be gelling as a band again, and Steve Augeri is finally finding a place for himself in the sound. He’s a sweetheart and I love the guy, but I have to be honest—there’s times when I’m listening and I go, “hmm?” I mean, come on, Steve [Perry] wrote it, Steve Perry sang it, and he just does “himself” better. Maybe I am just too close to the fire and maybe no one else sees it or hears it like I do. I probably couldn’t do it any better than Steve A, so why be so critical. Well, Journey is not just one of those fly-by-night rock bands. They are probably America’s version of the Beatles. Try touring the Beatles without Lennon or McCartney. It just isn’t the same. I know it and the band knows it too.



You can take those last two lines TO THE BANK!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

And, when people quote something like the stuff below, they should quote the ENTIRE THING. You left of the last bit where Kevin says this, "I guess at their stage in the game, they have to weigh out their options. Tour without Perry or not tour… that is not a hard decision. Steve Augeri is a talented guy. He is giving it his best. I credit him with that. I don’t know if I should even go there, I don’t know if I really should be saying this stuff. It isn’t my place to say any of this. You asked me for the truth in my mind and there it is. You know that I love you guys! "

....and speaking of Kevin Chalfant, here are a few of his own words

yes, I do miss Steve Perry. Many people have compared me to Steve Perry, but I will say that if you go to Streator, Illinois and ask people “Does Kevin Chalfant sound like Steve Perry?” Well, they will probably say that Steve Perry sounds like Kevin Chalfant! He —Perry—definitely got out of the blocks a lot earlier than me, and I admire him a great deal. I didn’t have the intention of joining HIS band. I moved out and joined another band, and things happen, you meet people and one thing leads to another—they saw an opportunity and I saw an opportunity and we both just took advantage of that. But there’s a lot of people that miss that guy, and I’m one of them.

In fact, I’ll go as far as to say that in all due respect, I am not going to say anything negative, but when I go to the Journey shows—I miss Steve Perry up there. I mean, I know these guys and I love ‘em like brothers. I just saw them in Chicago and I thought they sounded the best I’d heard them with Steve A. to date. I mean they seemed to really be gelling as a band again, and Steve Augeri is finally finding a place for himself in the sound. He’s a sweetheart and I love the guy, but I have to be honest—there’s times when I’m listening and I go, “hmm?” I mean, come on, Steve [Perry] wrote it, Steve Perry sang it, and he just does “himself” better. Maybe I am just too close to the fire and maybe no one else sees it or hears it like I do. I probably couldn’t do it any better than Steve A, so why be so critical. Well, Journey is not just one of those fly-by-night rock bands. They are probably America’s version of the Beatles. Try touring the Beatles without Lennon or McCartney. It just isn’t the same. I know it and the band knows it too.



You can take those last two lines TO THE BANK!!

Yup.
Typical manipulation on PF's part to decieve people and slant things to further her pov.
She does it all the time.
Sad, really.

[Kuroneko1]

Living in the past and dreaming about old glories wont do much as we all know. Steve Augeri is the lead singer of Journey. He is happy, band is happy and majority of the Journey fans are especially very happy! Result of his vocals was very good in Arrival and Im sure everybody agrees that. He is not going anywhere and he will be touring with the band. Should Journey split up because Mr. Perry does not want to involve? Should they all sell their gear and retire instead of moving forward? Hell no!

It is time to face the truth, even If it is too bitter for some fans.
Like it or not, Journey's lead singer is Augeri and he is doing a damn fine job! He was excellent in Tall stories and even better in Journey. A true gentleman and a classy singer.
Augeri is the man so get on with it!

[Abitaman]

Wish my computer was up when this started. Perry is the voice of ROCK, always will be. But he is not the voice Journey anymore! Journey and Perry have moved on. For the better I might add. Would have loved to see the Perry Journey together still, but it is not going to happen. If Perry was in Journey, there would be no Journey.
Kevin Chalfant, was my choice. The Storm cds, and Two fires were awesome. On the Storm tour, Kevin was great on the Journey songs. Steve Augeri was not have been my choice, his Tall Storeis and Tyketto cds were great, but I knew more of Chalfant.
That has changed now. Every thime I see Augeri on stage, or listen to his music with Journey, I'm blown away. He, like Chalfant, is a singer in his own right, not a Perry knock off. Sure they made a living "being" a Perry clone. But the have their own self to bring to the table. Kevin, seems to be more "bull" headed, which could be a plus or minus for Journey. Steve A. just loves his job, and who woulded. It takes big balls to get up there in Perry shoes. And Augeri has done it with class. CAN NOT WAIT FOR THE NEW JOURNEY CD!!!!!!!-ERIC

[perryfaithful]

[quote="Monker"]

doesn't really make any difference Monker

[The_Noble_Cause]

doesn't really make any difference Monker

Umm, yeah it does...and you know it, too.
If it didn't matter, then why did u feel the need to chop off those last few sentences?
I mean, why go through the effort of doing that?
Why not save yourself the trouble and post the whole bloody thing?
Unless you were hiding something?
It couldn't be because that maybe in the last two lines Kevin C. validates that the guys had the option of touring w/ Steve A. or not touring period?
Leaving that out puts a whole 'nother light on the situation, and of course would negate your "they should've waited for Steve" agenda.

As Kevin said, "I guess at their stage in the game, they have to weigh out their options. Tour without Perry or not tour… that is not a hard decision. "

You purposely left that out because you wanted to give his comments a negative slant against the current lineup.
You are a manipulator & are here pushing an agenda...cat's out of the bag. Better go change ur sn.

[heardonthestreet]

PF ended it as it pertains to this topic which is how Kevin feels about anyone being Perry's replacement. You guys are in the wrong thread. It's not about if the band should have gone on and not waited for Perry's hip problem to resolve itself. Don't give me the ole saw about "if he even had a problem." You don't know so it's a moot point. It was stated and he told in an interview of his gradual recovery and unless any of you can prove otherwise, it's a fact.
Stick to the fact of how Kevin feels about how he would feel about trying to replace Perry since you all brought his name up as a possible replacement in the first place.

[PROPERRY]

PF ended it as it pertains to this topic which is how Kevin feels about anyone being Perry's replacement. You guys are in the wrong thread. It's not about if the band should have gone on and not waited for Perry's hip problem to resolve itself. Don't give me the ole saw about "if he even had a problem." You don't know so it's a moot point. It was stated and he told in an interview of his gradual recovery and unless any of you can prove otherwise, it's a fact.
Stick to the fact of how Kevin feels about how he would feel about trying to replace Perry since you all brought his name up as a possible replacement in the first place.

Yea, it was them that brought this thread up, now they don't like the answers given by Chalfant & want to TRY to twist it in there favor some way, but the fact is that they can't change was said by Chalfant HIMSELF!

And yes, Perry did have a Hip problem, but they always TRY to make it sound as though "Steve just left the band", but we know that it was because the band did not wait for him.

Lori

[heardonthestreet]

This topic is sad since the unjourney fans are always saying that Augeri is such a trooper for being such a nice guy in the face of all the flak he has to take from the Perry fans yet he has to have his own fans posting that he wasn't a good choice and that they could have done better. Go figure!

[PROPERRY]

This topic is sad since the unjourney fans are always saying that Augeri is such a trooper for being such a nice guy in the face of all the flak he has to take from the Perry fans yet he has to have his own fans posting that he wasn't a good choice and that they could have done better. Go figure!

Yea, it sure is a sad topic coming from some of the fans of the current line up. I wonder how Augeri would feel,if he ever read this thread that some of his "own fans" don't think he is the right choice for the band???

I think that would probaly be real discouraging for Augeri to read.

Lori

[Monker]

doesn't really make any difference Monker

It absolutely makes a difference. Kevin knows, as everybody else should know, that Journey has a choice to make - tour without Perry or not tour at all. And, every Journey has a choice to make - see Journey without Perry or not see Journey at all. KC knows that this is how Journey has to be. Too bad others can't figure that out.

[The_Noble_Cause]

yet he has to have his own fans posting that he wasn't a good choice and that they could have done better. Go figure!

You're a dirty ass liar.
No one on here ever said Augeri wasn't a good choice.
No one on here is needlessly carping on Augeri.
Most of us are all objective enough to be able to listen to more than one singer at a time and maturely discuss their respective talents. Clearly this idea is revolutionary to you, as you swear allegiance to one singer and one singer alone: Steve Perry.
Fortunately, I am not a lunatic and I am able to speak objectively on things. IMO, Chalfant is a slightly better singer than Augeri. Doesn't mean I don't like Augeri or don't like the new music. Doesn't mean he was a bad choice. I think Chalfant is more talented by a small margin and would have prefferred to have seen him on the stage. Big deal. The show goes on. Some people would like to see Smitty, Perry, Aynsley, or Rolie up there, doesn't mean we can't enjoy the current talented members of the band.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's not about if the band should have gone on and not waited for Perry's hip problem to resolve itself. Don't give me the ole saw about "if he even had a problem." You don't know so it's a moot point. It was stated and he told in an interview of his gradual recovery and unless any of you can prove otherwise, it's a fact.

Umm, you have about as much proof that his hip probelm DID occur, as other fans have that it DID NOT. Both Herbie and Neal suspected foul play. Taking their words into account along with Perry's long history of reluctance to sing with the band, I have reached my own conclusions. You're certainly just as entitled to yours. But don't tell us what is fact or fiction. And don't tell us what we can or cannot believe.
You have as much of an official purview on the matter as anyone else. In fact, you have less.
I'll take Herbie and Neal's word over yours any day.
Here's what we know....Perry expressed an initial disinclination to record ROR until his mom convinced him otherwise, he quit mid-way during the ROR tour, he refused to sing at Herbie's roast, he refused to add new tracks to the Time3 collection, he cut his own solo tour short in 94, and he refused to tour at all for TBF. When posed for a time frame of when he was intending to "get better", Perry admitted that he could not even give one. The band was once again put on a seemngly endless hiatus. Many speculate that the only reason he got involved in TBF in the first place is because he didn't want Chalfant to replace him or challenge his position as Journey's lead singer. Others claim that Sony gave him the incentive of re-joining the band by offering to push another single off the FTLOSM album. Either way, believe what you want. I feel his actions (or lack there of) speak for themselves and still do to this day.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Stick to the fact of how Kevin feels about how he would feel about trying to replace Perry since you all brought his name up as a possible replacement in the first place.

FOR THE LAST TIME!

Kevin wasn't discussing what other singers could've been in Journey. He wasn't discussing the pros and cons of the other possible singers for the job (which is what this thread is about). Rather, what was posted was just Kev (who happened to have been a Perry replacement, himself) giving his opinion on the new lineup and the "act" of Perry being replaced.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS ABOUT (like every thread).

I repeat, we are not talking about the decision to carry on without Perry and assessing whether or not it was right or wrong- do that in your own thread.
(and good luck with that, as it always inevitably leads to unremitting flame wars and unmitigable chaos.)

Like all your ilk, you are purposefully attempting to veer this thread off subject by posting negative remarks about the new lineup.
I don't care who said them. Not here.
This is not about that.
This about discussing whether Steve Augeri should have been Perry's
replacement, or should someone else have been Perry's replacement?
Got it?

One more time.....

This thread is for people to discuss the other potential lead singer candidates who were up for Journey. It's NOT for people to comment on the idea of the new lineup or the action of Perry being replaced (even if you are a supporter of the idea). I don't care who's opinion it is. I don't care if they are singers (like KC) or plumbers, or teachers, or unemployed or whatever.
That's not what is being discussed here. Just calmy and maturely appraising all the potential candiates who could've done the job.

[heardonthestreet]

.........and furthermore...........

[The_Noble_Cause]

but the fact is that they can't change was said by Chalfant HIMSELF!

He said "it's not the same". Wow! What a scathing indictment.

Yea, it was them that brought this thread up

Who is them? "I" brought this thread up and I represent solely myself.

they don't like the answers given by Chalfant

I don't like his answers because they are to questions never posed by this thread and were only interpolated here so as to get onto the subject of "perry being replaced"-which is a can of worms I'd rather leave to someone else.

& want to TRY to twist it in there favor some way,

I don't have to twist anything. Any misgivings stated by Kevin on the act of Perry being replaced are disingenuous. He replaced Perry on several occasions, himself. He covered for him at the Herbie Herbert roast, was recuited as Perry's replacement and wrote songs with the band in 1996 and covered Journey songs with the Storm in the early 90's.
Most importantly, all his criticisms on "the act" of Perry being replaced are rendered moot, simply by virtue that to this very day he makes appearances with Rolie in concert to sing Perry's parts on"Feeling that way/Anytime" as well as "Any Way You Want It".

[perryfaithful]

Kevin wasn't discussing what other singers could've been in Journey. He wasn't discussing the pros and cons of the other possible singers for the job (which is what this thread is about).

Kevin WAS one of those possible replacements and interestingly enough he had a few words to say about it! That has EVERYTHING to do with this thread, IF you really wanted to discuss the topic line. BUT if you are really a Perry hater waiting to bait any of his fans that come along....well, then i guess you could complain all day that a potential candidate for the lead singer job thought the real man for the job was Steve Perry. So what if he also understood that a few members of Journey just had to move on? That part of his interview does not pertain to the question at hand here!

....and Hots is right on! You who constantly preach the HUMBLE Steve Augeri GIVE HIM RESPECT mantra would engage in this topic?? Oh Hell, NOT just engage BUT START THE TOPIC???? Something stinks here!

Posers........

The interest in this subject is BOGUS!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Kevin WAS one of those possible replacements and interestingly enough he had a few words to say about it!

What is "it"?
Define that.
This thread is about maturely discussing the respective talents of those who could be singing for Journey. The "it" Kevin was talking about was the actual act of Perry being replaced- I don't give a hoot about that. That only leads to unmitigable cyber flame wars. I am talking about assessing replacements other than Augeri

That has EVERYTHING to do with this thread

The question at hand was, "who was better than Augeri?".
Nothing in Kevin's comments were about that. All it did was carp on the formation of the current lineup. That's why you posted it, under the guise of it being germane because the comments were made by a replacement singer. But, as I said before, I don't care who said it, be it a lawyer, a chef, a professional singer- I don't wanna discuss the pros and cons of Perry being replaced. You keep coming back to that. Your purpose was to make this thread about "perry being replaced" and how it was wrong. You even went out of your way to omit the only line in the quote wherein Chalfant advocates the band's decison to move on. Regardless, as I've said a hundred times in this thread, I don't care if you are for it or against it- I don't wanna discuss that here.

...and Hots is right on! You who constantly preach the HUMBLE Steve Augeri GIVE HIME RESPECT mantra would engage in this topic??

I've never once said Augeri is humble. I don't know the man personally. I am not dellusional like you girls and think that I actually have a personal connnection with the artists I listen to. I can only judge his music.
Nor have I ever told anyone to "respect augeri".
Frankly, I don't give a damn who you respect!
Why would I entreat you to respect Steve Augeri, when it's evidently clear that you don't even respect yourself? Look at you- still idolizing over a man who has repeatedly turned his back on his fans since 1986.
Frankly, I am not even sure you are capable of treating your fellow human beings with any modicum of respect; as proven by your unwillingness to heed my pleas to not make my thread about "Steve Perry" and by your continuous attempts to veer it off course.

The interest in this subject is BOGUS!

Umm, much like your interest in talking about the band "Journey"?

[jrnyman28]

the unjourney fans

It was just a matter of time...

Nothing says "disrespect" for the band, the individuals or the fans more than THAT term.

[PROPERRY]

Kevin WAS one of those possible replacements and interestingly enough he had a few words to say about it!

What is "it"?
Define that.
This thread is about maturely discussing the respective talents of those who could be singing for Journey. The "it" Kevin was talking about was the actual act of Perry being replaced- I don't give a hoot about that. That only leads to unmitigable cyber flame wars. I am talking about assessing replacements other than Augeri

That has EVERYTHING to do with this thread

The question at hand was, "who was better than Augeri?".
Nothing in Kevin's comments were about that. All it did was carp on the formation of the current lineup. That's why you posted it, under the guise of it being germane because the comments were made by a replacement singer. But, as I said before, I don't care who said it, be it a lawyer, a chef, a professional singer- I don't wanna discuss the pros and cons of Perry being replaced. You keep coming back to that. Your purpose was to make this thread about "perry being replaced" and how it was wrong. You even went out of your way to omit the only line in the quote wherein Chalfant advocates the band's decison to move on. Regardless, as I've said a hundred times in this thread, I don't care if you are for it or against it- I don't wanna discuss that here.

...and Hots is right on! You who constantly preach the HUMBLE Steve Augeri GIVE HIME RESPECT mantra would engage in this topic??

I've never once said Augeri is humble. I don't know the man personally. I am not dellusional like you girls and think that I actually have a personal connnection with the artists I listen to. I can only judge his music.
Nor have I ever told anyone to "respect augeri".
Frankly, I don't give a damn who you respect!
Why would I entreat you to respect Steve Augeri, when it's evidently clear that you don't even respect yourself? Look at you- still idolizing over a man who has repeatedly turned his back on his fans since 1986.
Frankly, I am not even sure you are capable of treating your fellow human beings with any modicum of respect; as proven by your unwillingness to heed my pleas to not make my thread about "Steve Perry" and by your continuous attempts to veer it off course.

The interest in this subject is BOGUS!

Umm, much like your interest in talking about the band "Journey"?

It seems to me that with all the name calling YOU have done towards Perry fans on this thread for simply just stating our OWN opinions, you are the last person to talk about respect. And I will add that our opinions were expressed in a respectful way here.

You have referred to the Perry fans as having a "cult-like Idoltry" just because we have DIFFERENT opinions than you.

Here are just a few names that have been directed toward the Perry fans, "blind-zealot", "dirty ass liar", "dellusional".

Then You state this REAL funny line here in this post that says, "This thread is about maturely discussing....... etc, etc."

I agree with Perryfaithful, "The interest in this subject is BOGUS!"

Lori

[The_Noble_Cause]

It seems to me that with all the name calling YOU have done towards Perry fans on this thread for simply just stating our OWN opinions

Umm, yeah opinions which weren't asked for and were in no ways related to the subject at hand. This was about who, other than Augeri, could've possibly carried the vocal torch. It was not about debating "the act of Perry being replaced" in any way.

you are the last person to talk about respect.

You're right. I frequently don't talk about respect. I already clarified that in one of the posts above. It was PF and yourself who made the baseless claim that I always demand that you respect Steve Augeri. Which is bull.
I frankly don't care who you respect.

Here are just a few names that have been directed toward the Perry fans, "blind-zealot", "dirty ass liar", "dellusional".

"heardonthestreet" said several times on this board that I think Augeri is a bad choice for Journey. That's a bold faced lie. I never said that.
Ergo, to me, he is a dirty ass liar.
Why, what do you normally call someone when they lie to you?
A friend?
Or do you just run to your room, put "I Stand Alone" on full volume and eat bon-bons and cry.

As for all the other colorful adjectives, I am merely describing the impression that you nutbags emit to me.
Your relentless persistance in somehow hijacking my thread and denaturing it to be all about "Steve Perry" is probative of your mental problems (whether you can see them or not).

I agree with Perryfaithful, "The interest in this subject is BOGUS!"

Good, then get the hell out of my thread. None of you added anything to the topic anyways. All you did is try to re-place the focus on Steve Perry and your perceived injustice of him being replaced. Well, I refuse to discuss that. I asked nicely countless times now to stop bringing Steve Perry into this conversation and for you to stay on topic. Jrnyman28 and others were all doing just fine posting according to the topic. You guys were just talking about Steve Perry's absence and how it should never have occurred. Boo-Hoo! Go take that devisive, instigative crap somewhere else.
You are doing me a favor by leaving. Good riddance. Go infiltrate and destroy someone else's thread. BYE BYE!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

This may sound crazy, but did anyone else think Mr. Big's Eric Martin had the potential vocal chops to sing for Journey?

Discuss.

[PROPERRY]

It seems to me that with all the name calling YOU have done towards Perry fans on this thread for simply just stating our OWN opinions

Umm, yeah opinions which weren't asked for and were in no ways related to the subject at hand. This was about who, other than Augeri, could've possibly carried the vocal torch. It was not about Steve Perry in any way. Your opinions were not asked for.

you are the last person to talk about respect.

You're right. I don't talk about respect. I already clarified that in one of the posts above. It was PF and yourself who made the claim that I always demand that you respect Steve Augeri. Which is bull.
I don't care who you respect.

Here are just a few names that have been directed toward the Perry fans, "blind-zealot", "dirty ass liar", "dellusional".

"heardonthestreet" said several times that I think Augeri is a bad choice. That's a bold faced lie. I never said that.
Ergo, he is a dirty ass liar.

As for the other colorful adjectives, I am merely describing the impression that you nutbags emit.
Your relentless persistance in somehow hijacking my thread and denaturing it to be all about "Steve Perry" is probative of your mental problems.

I agree with Perryfaithful, "The interest in this subject is BOGUS!"

Good, then get the hell out of my thread. None of you added anything to the topic anyways. All you did is try to re-place the focus on Steve Perry and your perceived injustice of him being replaced. Well, I refuse to discuss that. I asked nicely countless times now to stop bringing Steve Perry into this conversation and for you to stay on topic. Jrnyman28 and others were posting according to the topic. You were just talking about Steve Perry's absence and that it should never have occurred. Boo-Hoo! Go take that devisive, instigative crap somewhere else. You are doing me a favor by leaving. Good riddance. Go infiltrate and destroy someone else's thread.

I could careless what you refuse to discuss here. This is a message board that EVERYONE can reply to with their OWN opinions, whether YOU like the answers given or not here.

If you don't like the answers given here, then maybe you should private email all your buddies about this "particular subject matter", rather than posting it on a public message board & getting all upset because not everyone agrees with you!

Oh, and by the way, I never said in my post above that I was leaving here.

Lori

[JourneyTroll]

Good Grief!.... where do I start?


yak wrote:

Last time I looked PEDOPHILIA was a serious crime.

perryfaithful wrote:

sure is.......

OR

perryfaithful wrote:

JourneyTroll wrote:
If Michael Jackson beats his diddler case, then he should be the new lead singer of Journey. Think about it. Journey would be swamped with press converage at every gig. Journey would be in the news everyday. Michael Jackson is a great singer, dancer, and showman. He would bring life into Journey and attract so many new fans! Finally, Michael Jackson would regain his title as the King of Pop, so it's a win-win situation!

Journeytroll

PF: Oh Troll, ya got me LMAO!


Make up your mind which way you want to go with this, since you can't have it both ways. Your head must spin around your neck in complete circles.

Seems to me though that Jackson has not been tried and CONVICTED as yet, so what are you doing??

You might want to check http://thesmokinggun.com/

Perhaps his people should call your people and have a talk.

Getting tired of your threats to get somebody to talk to me about my posts. It's getting as old as a desperate frumpy housewife posting on a message board.

The original point of Troll's message, and yours, since you thought he/she was funny about it, is that Jackson should be leading a great band like Journey. I found that an insult, and NOT the least bit funny, given the current circumstances. You two are sick people. And for your information Troll, Jackson isn't quite as popular as some in his camp would want you to think. Seems there were only a couple of dozen "fans" who showed at the last court appearance. That would be the one before he allegedly...ahem...got sick in his limo. Must have found out enroute what was about to break on the net.



And Noble Cause is correct when he says you are hijacking a thread. You must be so aggravated that your tarnished idol has no solo plans of his own, that you have to take it out on somebody.

Hi there. My opinion is Michael Jackson should become the new lead singer of Journey if he wins his case. Haven't you heard that allegations are only allegations, and a person is innocent until proven guilty? Michael Jackson is a better singer and performer than Steve Augeri. If Michael Jackson became the lead singer of Journey, then they would be able to sell out any venue throughout the world and reach mega-star status.

Just because my opinion sways away from the current Journey lineup, doesn't mean I am sick. Instead, I am sick and tired of Journey putting on a greatest hit tour since 2001.

Journeytroll