HOW GOOD?????????

by **yogi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:35 am

I am NOT a musiccian. I cant even spell it. I cant read music. BUT I love music!!

I have read soooooo many times what GREAT guitarists Neil Schon, Eddie Van Halen, Angus Young, and Rik Emmett are. I know there are others, but those four come to mind. I also remember reading one time somewhere where Glen Burtnik stated he couldnt hold a candle to JY's and Tommys playing.

My question is how good of guitar players are JY, Tommy, Glen , and now Ricky. Can they even hang with the above mentioned, or are Neil, Eddie, Angus, and Rik way way above them?? I honestly dont know the answer. They all sound great to me, and I couldnt tell one of their riffs from another.

by **Zan** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:32 am

yogi wrote:I am NOT a musiccian. I cant even spell it. I cant read music. BUT I love music!!

I have read soooooo many times what GREAT guitarists Neil Schon, Eddie Van Halen, Angus Young, and Rik Emmett are. I know there are others, but those four come to mind. I also remember reading one time somewhere where Glen Burtnik stated he couldnt hold a candle to JY's and Tommys playing.

My question is how good of guitar players are JY, Tommy, Glen , and now Ricky. Can they even hang with the above mentioned, or are Neil, Eddie, Angus, and Rik way way above them?? I honestly dont know the answer. They all sound great to me, and I couldnt tell one of their riffs from another.

JY is a guitar god, everyone knows that. Tommy has a catchy style and is quite talented in his own right. I would love to see them break out of their note-for-note regiment and show us what they can really do sometime. Now, Glen is FOS. He is a self-proclaimed "jack of all trades, and master of none." I disagree. He's a masterful musician that can play the sh** out of anything he puts his mind to. There's a reason why everyone in the industry knows his name.

Now, if we're talking about masters of their domain ;-)

, I'd say Todd is right up there with some of the best drummers ever. Same with Gowan and keyboardists. The man can play the most complicated piece and make it look like chopsticks.

But um...Rik Emmet is freaking sensational. I was literally in awe bth times I've seen him play. Eddie VanHalen, however, does nothing for me. I'll give him his props, but I've never been overly impressed with him.

by **DarrenUK** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:54 am

TOP 5 of everything in my opinion

GUITARISTS

1) EDDIE VAN HALEN.........GENIOUS
2) NEAL SCHON
3) DANN HUFF
4) GARY MOORE
5) STEVE LUKATHER

DRUMS

1) NEIL PEART
2) IAN PAICE
3) TODD SUCCHERMAN
4) SIMON PHILLIPS
5) KEN MARY

BASS

1) TREVOR BOLDER
2) GEDDY LEE
3) CHUCK PANOZZO
4) RICKY PHILLIPS
5) JEFF POCARO

KEYS

1) RICK WAKEMAN
2) JON LORD
3) GREGG GIUFFRIA
4) GEOFF DOWNES
5) KEITH EMERSON

VOCALS

1) PAUL RODGERS
2) DARREN WHARTON
3) DAVID COVERDALE
4) STEVE PERRY
5) DENNIS DEYOUNG

by **Zan** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:42 am

Good idea, Darren! I'm drawing several blanks rightnow, but here are some that come to mind!

Vocals:

Eva Cassidy
Steve Perry
Antonique Smith*
Art Garfunkel
Ed Withthemessedupnamefrom LIVE
Dennis (depending on what he's singing)

Guitar:

David Gilmour
Rik Emmet
James Young

Bass:

Steve Harris
Sorry, but I gotta go with Glen B. here

Drums:

Todd Sucherman
Neil Peart
John Bonham

Keys:

Lawrence Gowan
Tom Brislin*
eh...

Songwriting:

GLEN (Duh)
Ed from LIVE
Billy Joel
John Lennon/Paul McCartney

by **froy** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:56 am

JY is a guitar god, everyone knows that.

Are you insane?
God?
Eric Clapton is a guitar god
Neil Schon is great
JY is budget at best

by **Zan** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:00 am

froy wrote:
JY is budget at best

Coming from someone like you, my dear - that's high praise.

by **bugsymalone** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:06 am

And herein come personal points of view.

I have ALWAYS felt that Clapton was way overrated.

A lot of who we think are the best depends on their style and whether we like it or not.

I think JY is a really great guitarist. (See, I can say something nice about the guy!)

I love the style of Pete Townshend, but he is nowhere near one of the best. But I would rank him high because I love his "rhythm/lead" style of playing.

I have always been astounded by the speed and precision of Eddie Van Halen.

Bugsy

by **yogi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:14 am

What makes one soo much better than the other??

Froy,

What makes Clapton better than Shaw, JY,Eddie, or Angus Young. I swear just listening to the music I dont know. Was Ben Orr( Cars), a good guitarist?? Sting, the dude from Cheap Trick. What makes one better than the other?? Its easy with singers, guitars for me thats hard.

by **styxfanNH** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:39 am

With all due respect to Chuck, He isn't top 5. Chuck is a solid, steady Bass player, perfect role for what Styx needs.

Entwistle was great, and Chris Squire is still amazing. I would place both of them ahead of Chuck.

by **styxmike** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:50 am

mine are
1 Ritchie Blackmore
2 Michael Schenker
3 Uli Jon Roth
4 Dave Gilmore
5 JY ( never rated him till i saw him live - very underated!!!)

BASS
1 Pete Way
2 Geezer Butler
3 Glen Burtnik
4 Phil Lynott
5 Rodger Glover

DRUMS
1 Cozy Powell
2 Todd Sucherman
3 Jason Bonham
4 Phil Collins
5 Ian Paice

KEYS
1 Rick Wakeman
2 Dennis De Young
3 Don Airey
4 Tony Carey
5 J Cain

VOCALS
1 Steve Perry
2 Dennis De Young
3 Ronnie Dio
4 Phil Mogg
5 Tommy Shaw

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:47 am

I like lists, so I'll have to make separate posts

Let's see, today my top guitarists are:

1. Eddie Van Halen
2. Rik Emmett
3. Yngwie Malmsteen

I like this site with their opinions of top guitarists:

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/b ... uitar.html

Here are their top 10 rock guitarists:

1. Jimi Hendrix* - Jimi Hendrix Experience
2. Jimmy Page - Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, The Firm
3. Jeff Beck - Yardbirds, Jeff Beck Group, Solo
4. Eric Clapton - Yardbirds, Cream, Derek & The Dominos, Solo
5. Joe Satriani - Solo
6. Stevie Ray Vaughan* - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
7. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night
8. David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, Solo
9. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen
10. Allan Holdsworth - Solo

Here is Rolling Stones top guitarists:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/ ... 6.0.12.872

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:55 am

My top drummers, that I think that are pretty darn good.

1. Neil Peart
2. Tommy Lee
3. Mike Portnoy (after seeing him)

These are the top drummers on this site:

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/b ... mmers.html

1. Neil Peart (Rush)
2. Keith Moon (Who)
3. Ginger Baker (Cream)
4. John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
5. Terry Bozzio (Zappa, Jeff Beck)
6. Carl Palmer (ELP)
7. Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson)
8. Danny Carey (Tool)
9. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
10. Ian Paice (Deep Purple)

** I didn't see Todd's name on the top 100 list, unless I missed it.

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:59 am

Top Keyboardist:

1. Dennis DeYoung (duh)
2. Keith Emerson is pretty good

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/b ... board.html

1. Keith Emerson (ELP)
2. Rick Wakeman (Yes)
3. Jon Lord (Deep Purple)
4. Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
5. Richard Wright (Pink Floyd)
6. Tony Banks (Genesis)
7. Billy Preston
8. Ian Underwood (The Mothers Of Invention)
9. Steve Winwood (Traffic)
10. Nicky Hopkins (Rolling Stones, Jeff Beck)
11. Al Kooper (Blood Sweat & Tears)
12. Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater, The Dregs)
13. Tony Hymas (Jeff Beck)
14. Gregg Allman (Allman Brothers Band)
15. Booker T. Jones
16. Jan Hammer
17. Kevin Moore (Dream Theater)
18. Dennis De Young (Styx)
19. Brian Eno
20. T. Lavitz (The Dregs)

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:03 am

Let's see, the top vocalists that I enjoy listening to today is:

1. Dennis DeYoung
2. Rob Thomas
3. Steve Perry
4. Paul McCartney (solo and with Wings)

by **froy** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:10 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Let's see, the top vocalists that I enjoy listening to today is:

1. Dennis DeYoung
2. Rob Thomas
3. Steve Perry
4. Paul McCartney (solo and with Wings)

Top 3 vocals

Freddie Mercury
Young Steve Perry
Dennis DeYoung

Guitar

Neal Schon
Angus Young
Stevie Ray Vaughan

Bass
Chris Squire
John Entwhistle
Paul

Drums
Steve Smith
Simon Phillips
Kenny Aaronnoff

by **froy** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:11 pm

froy wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Let's see, the top vocalists that I enjoy listening to today is:

1. Dennis DeYoung
2. Rob Thomas
3. Steve Perry
4. Paul McCartney (solo and with Wings)

Top 3 vocals

Freddie Mercury
Young Steve Perry
Dennis DeYoung

Guitar

Neal Schon
Angus Young
Stevie Ray Vaughan

Bass
Chris Squire
John Entwhistle
Paul

Drums
Steve Smith
Simon Phillips
Kenny Aaronnoff

JY is not even in the top 50 IMO

by **Monker** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:03 pm

I think any guitarist who can play next to Ted Nugent and hold his own is absolutely a great guitarist. He is not up there with the greatest ever, I don't think he's someone to ignore either....I mean, "Crystal Ball", "Come Again", all the stuff on 7DZ. Very impressive.

As for the greatest ever...I think that's Stevie Ray Vaughn. He could do absolutely anything with a guitar...from classic blues to Hendrix, electric, accoustic, slow ballads to ripping through a rocker. A master.

yogi wrote:I am NOT a musiccian. I cant even spell it. I cant read music. BUT I love music!!

I have read soooooo many times what GREAT guitarists Neil Schon, Eddie Van Halen, Angus Young, and Rik Emmett are. I know there are others, but those four come to mind. I also remember reading one time somewhere where Glen Burtnik stated he couldnt hold a candle to JY's and Tommys playing.

My question is how good of guitar players are JY, Tommy, Glen , and now Ricky. Can they even hang with the above mentioned, or are Neil, Eddie, Angus, and Rik way way above them?? I honestly dont know the answer. They all sound great to me, and I couldnt tell one of their riffs from another.

by **froy** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:38 pm

David Gilmour
Rik Emmet
James Young

Keys:

Lawrence Gowan
Tom Brislin*
eh...

:?:

by **DarrenUK** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:36 pm

Sorry Suite I have never rated McCartney I always thought George Harrison was the best ex Beatle, McCartney has also given the world 2 of the worst songs ever written Mull Of Kintyre and that damn Frog Chorus, yes The Frog Chorus is right up there with Music Time.....

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:03 pm

Darren, that's okay, I'm glad we all have such a variety of tastes.

I added him to the list of vocalists yesterday because I was just listening to him with Wings. If I was asked next week, it would probably still be Dennis, Steve, Rob and then someone else, like the guy from Dream Theater or Rik. With Paul McCartney, I usually just listen to the radio hits nothing else (I'm bad).

Froy, why did you make an angry face? Be happy

by **froy** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:24 am

DarrenUK wrote:Sorry Suite I have never rated McCartney I always thought George Harrison was the best ex Beatle, McCartney has also given the world 2 of the worst songs ever written Mull Of Kintyre and that damn Frog Chorus, yes The Frog Chorus is right up there with Music Time.....

Mull Of Kintyre is a great song Darren whats the problem with it for you :roll:

by **froy** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:25 am

As for the greatest ever...I think that's Stevie Ray Vaughn. He could do absolutely anything with a guitar...from classic blues to Hendrix, electric, accoustic, slow ballads to ripping through a rocker. A master.

Now your talkin :wink:

by **Panjandrum** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:28 am

For guitar, try some:

Chet Atkins
Mark Knopfler

They even did an album together (Neck and Neck)

by **I Stumble In** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:05 am

Guitar
Clapton
S.R. Vaughn
Eric Johnson

Bass
James Jamerson
Paul McCartney
Billy Sheehan

Drums
Neal Peart
Larry Mullin
Michael Cartalonne

Keys
Keith Emerson
Billy Preston
Ray Charles

Voice
Steve Perry
Tommy Shaw
Jim “Dandy” Mangrum (Black Oak Arkansas)

by **styxfanNH** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:21 pm

Knopfler is great but he was better with Dire Straits.

by **M. J. Perry** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:32 pm

Vocals - Paul Rogers, Pat Benatar, Sammy Hagar
Guitars - Lindsey Buckingham, Peter Frampton, Mick Ronson
Bass - Geddy Lee, Tom Peterson, Rick Savage
Keyboards - John Paul Jones, Keith Emerson, Geoff Downes
Drums - Neil Peart, Rick Allen, Tommy Lee

MR

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