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Postby Ash » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:36 am

I did not go to the show, but a friend of mine in the office who went last night and will be writing a review of the show for one of the nashville papers said the following:

1. Styx managed to do one thing nobody else has managed to do... and that is sound bad at the rhyman auditorium. Too much midrange, no bass, and no high end... mix was muddled and terrible.

2. An encore of three cover songs that people aren't used to hearing just so you get to hear "Renegade" is "a long way to go".

3. JY sounds awful trying to cover hendrix. If you're going to cover hendrix then you should "be a virtuoso at your instrument which JY is not". He also said it sounded "soul-less" and unemotive.

4. The crowd was between 1400 and 1500. Which is slightly over 65% capacity for the venue. (by comparison, about 25,000 packed the pavilion and lawn at Starwood Ampitheatre to see Styx in 1997) when Kansas was opening for them.

I'll post the review once he has it written if he gives me permission
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Re: Styx In Nashville

Postby Zan » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:04 am

Ash wrote:I did not go to the show, but a friend of mine in the office who went last night and will be writing a review of the show for one of the nashville papers said the following:

1. Styx managed to do one thing nobody else has managed to do... and that is sound bad at the rhyman auditorium. Too much midrange, no bass, and no high end... mix was muddled and terrible.

2. An encore of three cover songs that people aren't used to hearing just so you get to hear "Renegade" is "a long way to go".

3. JY sounds awful trying to cover hendrix. If you're going to cover hendrix then you should "be a virtuoso at your instrument which JY is not". He also said it sounded "soul-less" and unemotive.

4. The crowd was between 1400 and 1500. Which is slightly over 65% capacity for the venue. (by comparison, about 25,000 packed the pavilion and lawn at Starwood Ampitheatre to see Styx in 1997) when Kansas was opening for them.

I'll post the review once he has it written if he gives me permission



This is what my friend said about the show he saw last night:

OK folks, my ears are still ringing and my voice is shot but I'll try and cover all the bases here.

Opening Act - "TAIT" 30 minute set of tight rock, fairly heavy, kicked my butt. I will be going out to buy these guys CD A.S.A.P.

STYX - full 2 hour set - Including all the songs you would expect + some other cool stuff

Blue Collar Man
Grand Illusion
Lorelie
Crystal Ball
Snowblind
Fooling Yourself
Ragtime Piano Stuff
Lady
Medeley
More Love For The Money
One With Everything
These Are The Times
The Ray Charle Cover tune
Manic Depression
I Am The Walrus
Renegade

I think I missed a couple of other tunes, I'm still kinda of sleepy. The crowd was pumped and at time louder than the band. This was a stripped back show due to the venue it was just the guys and the music. No special lighting, confetti, backdrops, Etc. It was a great way to see the band. Our seats were on the front row of the balcony on Tommy's side. At the Ryman that means when Tommy was at his mic we were at most 20 feet from him with a perfectly clear view of the stage and no one standing in front of us. Sound was pretty good. Our seats were under the speakers so we caught a lot of stage sound but it was still great. Hope you guys seeing them tonight in Florida have as much fun as we did.
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Postby Ash » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:08 am

I'm sorry - I did forget to mention, Lucas said the crowd WAS quite pumped... sorry to have left that out.

He also said he saw a rodie lookin guy walking around with a tablet PC and it looked like he was trying to do some virtual mix-corrections but that it didn't appear to be working out all that well.
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:43 am

Haven't talked to anyone that went yet, but I would consider this.

It was the first night back after a short hiatus. First show is always a bit funky for any band.

You can't campare this band with the reunion years. But we've been through this before.

And Adam, it's one thing to challenge Froy. BUt you really don't want to come off as sounding like him. Those that are far left sound as bad as those that are far right.
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Re: Styx In Nashville

Postby froy » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:50 am

Ash wrote:I did not go to the show, but a friend of mine in the office who went last night and will be writing a review of the show for one of the nashville papers said the following:

1. Styx managed to do one thing nobody else has managed to do... and that is sound bad at the rhyman auditorium. Too much midrange, no bass, and no high end... mix was muddled and terrible.

2. An encore of three cover songs that people aren't used to hearing just so you get to hear "Renegade" is "a long way to go".

3. JY sounds awful trying to cover hendrix. If you're going to cover hendrix then you should "be a virtuoso at your instrument which JY is not". He also said it sounded "soul-less" and unemotive.

4. The crowd was between 1400 and 1500. Which is slightly over 65% capacity for the venue. (by comparison, about 25,000 packed the pavilion and lawn at Starwood Ampitheatre to see Styx in 1997) when Kansas was opening for them.

I'll post the review once he has it written if he gives me permission



No need for a review I will put it in laymens terms

Styx sucked in Nashville
The cover cd is going to be a DISASTER
Way to go Jim and Tom your getting worse instead of better
Keep it up
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Re: Styx In Nashville

Postby gr8dane » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:22 am

froy wrote:
Ash wrote:I did not go to the show, but a friend of mine in the office who went last night and will be writing a review of the show for one of the nashville papers said the following:

1. Styx managed to do one thing nobody else has managed to do... and that is sound bad at the rhyman auditorium. Too much midrange, no bass, and no high end... mix was muddled and terrible.

2. An encore of three cover songs that people aren't used to hearing just so you get to hear "Renegade" is "a long way to go".

3. JY sounds awful trying to cover hendrix. If you're going to cover hendrix then you should "be a virtuoso at your instrument which JY is not". He also said it sounded "soul-less" and unemotive.

4. The crowd was between 1400 and 1500. Which is slightly over 65% capacity for the venue. (by comparison, about 25,000 packed the pavilion and lawn at Starwood Ampitheatre to see Styx in 1997) when Kansas was opening for them.

I'll post the review once he has it written if he gives me permission



No need for a review I will put it in laymens terms

Styx sucked in Nashville
The cover cd is going to be a DISASTER
Way to go Jim and Tom your getting worse instead of better
Keep it up


Ahh froy,so you finally broke down and saw Styx .Well at least you gave them a shot.Sorry you did not like them.
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Postby ek88 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:21 am

Styx sucked in Nashville


Ahh froy,so you finally broke down and saw Styx. Well at least you gave them a shot. Sorry you did not like them.
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Postby styxfanNH » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:32 am

Tommy posted a pic on the Styxworld site of the audience. Pic was taken from behind the drum set. It at least looks like a lot of people were there.

Another review from Froy. Doesn't see them, doesn't hear them, but is qualified to give the review. He must work for Rolling Stone Magazine.
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Postby froy » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:26 am

styxfanNH wrote:Tommy posted a pic on the Styxworld site of the audience. Pic was taken from behind the drum set. It at least looks like a lot of people were there.

Another review from Froy. Doesn't see them, doesn't hear them, but is qualified to give the review. He must work for Rolling Stone Magazine.



Here 's the review
not by Froy=65 percent filled woopie,
Manic depresant Live Wow thats some hard Rock there Tom

Where's Miss America Midnight Ride Lights Love In The Midnight Haven't
We been here Before Little Suzie On My Way You need Love
You call this a STYX show ?
Not even close.

I did not go to the show, but a friend of mine in the office who went last night and will be writing a review of the show for one of the nashville papers said the following:

1. Styx managed to do one thing nobody else has managed to do... and that is sound bad at the rhyman auditorium. Too much midrange, no bass, and no high end... mix was muddled and terrible.

2. An encore of three cover songs that people aren't used to hearing just so you get to hear "Renegade" is "a long way to go".

3. JY sounds awful trying to cover hendrix. If you're going to cover hendrix then you should "be a virtuoso at your instrument which JY is not". He also said it sounded "soul-less" and unemotive.

4. The crowd was between 1400 and 1500. Which is slightly over 65% capacity for the venue. (by comparison, about 25,000 packed the pavilion and lawn at Starwood Ampitheatre to see Styx in 1997) when Kansas was opening for them.

I'll post the review once he has it written if he gives me permission


Please Hurry post it so these Styx sheep can see someone other than me complain.
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Postby Adam » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:39 am

styxfanNH: And Adam, it's one thing to challenge Froy. BUt you really don't want to come off as sounding like him. Those that are far left sound as bad as those that are far right

ADAM: Point well taken. In trying to point out Froy's sideways logic, I'm BECOMING HIM. Yeeeeoooow. It's like an Outer Limits episode or something.

Okay, I'll calm down. Besides, I think I'm preaching to the choir in that no one's jumping to his defense. It's obvious we're all enduring a challenged/special needs type.

I'd like a shot of tolerance, bartender!

It used to bug me that the pro Dennisites weren't busting Froy on his Froyistic Froyishness, but now I can get back to slaying bigger dragons. (I'm like a superhero.)

Besides, I saw a Diane Sawyer show on the Tsunami last night that yanked me back into the proper perspective. I'd even wanna save Froy if he were floating past me...
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Postby sadie65 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:00 am

I would imagine you would/will get this reaction from either a Styx or Dennis show. I think it depends on what you expect versus what you like. Both reviews seem to be accurate.

The only thing I think the bad should do (like they are asking me :lol: ) would be to move the covers to the middle of the set. Most encores are supposed to leave the fans wanting more. I'm getting a sense that whether we like it or not, Styx is considered an oldies act. And so, playing covers as an encore will leave a majority, not all, of the fans wondering where the Styx material is.

Other than that, I'm glad the crowd was into the show.

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Postby mr.v » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:02 am

Hi, Folks, First time poster - long time reader, but I could hold back no longer.
First my thanks to the love of my life Zan (don't tell my wife!) for posting my review from another board.

OK - STYX DID NOT SUCK IN NASHVILLE!@!!!@!!!@!!!

now that that is out of my system.

The Ryman show was great. I was there with a friend that had never seen the band live before and he loved it. The crowd was great, it was not a sell out but the empty seats were seats that were partly blocked, in other words they were the back corners on each side. The ryman is a wonderful venue and yes the sound was a bit muddy, our seats on the front row / right side of the balcony were so close to the stage that we were actually under the speakers so the sound was half speakers and half stage sound, but from other comments I have read it sounds like the sound was a bit off through out the venue. BUT I've seen KANSAS, PAUL RODGERS, LYLE LOVETT and a number of stage plays done at the Ryman and sound is always a bit off. The Ryman is a tall narrow building that was designed to be a church back in the late 1800's, the Gaylord company has invested millions on renevating the building but there is only so much you can do. Now before anyone starts mouthing about me making excuses I will say that the sound for Lyle Lovett was much better than it was for Styx but I would say that the Kansas/Paul Rodgers show sound was about as good as it was for Styx.

The set list was about the same as it was when I saw them here last summer with the addition of the cover tunes in the encore.

Is JY Hendrix? NO (duh)

Did he make the song fun and did the audence like it? YES

In fact with the exception of "More Love For The Money" the audence loved all the new stuff that the band did. MLFTM got a good reception, but where it was placed in the set made it a good pee break song. "I Am The Walrus" was the best recieved of the covers even though to my knowledge it got little if any airplay here in Clear Channel central.

Please keep in mind that Nashville is a music industry town and rock acts, Especially classic rock acts that appear here usually get trashed in the reviews.

OK, I'm here now so maybe I'll throw my two cents in now and then, remember I warned you!
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Postby Ash » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:30 am

I think some people are misinterpreting my post as a slam - which it was not meant to be and I am sorry if it came off that way. I was supposed to go to the show, but I was in a car accident and I'm also in the middle of selling the house I live in and am buying a new one today - so I'm a little stressed out with everything going on.

I wanted to go because I wanted to give them another chance. I saw them with REO back on the Brave New World thing and was not impressed but I had been warming to see them and at least give them a chance. Granted I am *NOT THRILLED* about the covers album idea, but I'd like to hear some of the new sound just to give it a fair shot.

So... please don't mistake my intentions here. I'm not saying they sucked... thje guy I was supposed to go with wasn't too thrilled, but I have no way of knowing first hand.
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Postby sadie65 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:41 am

Ash,

I'm sorry to read about your accident. I hope it wasn't too severe.

Good luck with the houses. Having been through that myself a few times, I can relate to the stress level it brings.

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Postby Zan » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:54 am

Use the insurance to get lots of massages! That was the only good thing that came from my accident!

I hope you're doing ok.
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Postby Hippie » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:06 am

I wanted to go because I wanted to give them another chance. I saw them with REO back on the Brave New World thing and was not impressed


Definitely give them another chance Ash. I've seen them twice since the BNW tour and each show hes been better and and better.

Last saw them in 04. Lorelei about brought me to my knees! The harmonies were tighter than I'd ever heard them before.
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Postby Ash » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:34 am

My accident wasn't glorious really. I was leaving the place I was having my car serviced and turned too sharply and hit a metal parking baracade and tore up the passenger side of my car.

nobody hurt except my pride ... car took $3000 in damage though. I refer to this as my yearly "stupid" tax.

I was just worried the guy who posted "styx sucked in nashville" would be pinned to my thread which wasn't at all what I was saying. Even if they had "sucked" in my opinion I'd have had something constructive :) to say.
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Postby styxfanNH » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:44 am

Ash, the stress is understandable. Hope your new place works out well for you.

Couple of things about the concert. The first show back is always a little sketchy for any band. Tommy's post on styxworld says thay really only had time for a standard rehearsal.

As far as the covers, they have been playing covers for the better part of two years or so that lead into renegade. Sometimes you get one song other times its to or three depending on time allocations. What was played was the standard songs they have been playing for since Crossroads. Nothing new from the covers cd.

Lorelie returning to the set had pretty much been dropped for most of last year. Glad they've brought it back.
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Postby froy » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:55 am

Couple of things about the concert. The first show back is always a little sketchy for any band.


That's it sugar coat it make excuses
Fact is they were lazy and did not take the time to get the sound right
But Im sure you dont care your a Styx fan no matter what the problem is.



Tommy's post on styxworld says thay really only had time for a standard rehearsal.


They have been off for months and thats all they had time for
How about they cared less and said we will just show up and play .
Thats what you get from todays STYX very little effort.



As far as the covers, they have been playing covers for the better part of two years or so that lead into renegade.


Wow in 2 years they could not think of any new ideas
Thats great .


Lorelie returning to the set had pretty much been dropped for most of last year. Glad they've brought it back.
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Why would you be glad its not Dennis singing it .
Todays Styx fan needs help .
Ok start the fighting,
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Postby bugsymalone » Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:02 am

It used to bug me that the pro Dennisites weren't busting Froy on his Froyistic Froyishness,


It does no good. All of us have tired and it is best NOT to reply, in my book. If you do, you just feed the beast.


but now I can get back to slaying bigger dragons. (I'm like a superhero.)


Uhhhhh.....if you say so.

Ash, thanks for posting your friend's review. And I hope the car is ok and the house buying/moving goes (went?) well.

Lastly, welcome, Mr. v.

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Postby Adam » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:11 am

"All of us have tired and it is best NOT to reply, in my book. If you do, you just feed the beast."

you're right and I've always known this...and so if you listen closely you can hear the sound od Adam resisting urges to respond to the unrelenting display of brainlessness and disrespect...
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Postby froy » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:13 am

Adam wrote:"All of us have tired and it is best NOT to reply, in my book. If you do, you just feed the beast."

you're right and I've always known this...and so if you listen closely you can hear the sound od Adam resisting urges to respond to the unrelenting display of brainlessness and disrespect...



I respond to brainless disrespect all day thats why Im here
Jim and Tom are masters of this act.
Stick with it od Adam .
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Postby Abitaman » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:40 am

Seen Styx 6 times since Dennis left. Saw them 5 times with Dennis. It sure is a different show now adays, but not bad at all! Each time it's better. So if you haven't seen them since BNW, go see them-ERIC
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Postby Adam » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:06 am

FROY: I respond to brainless disrespect all day thats why Im here

ADAM: Ya know, Froy is providing such a service for us all. He's here for our own good, shedding the light of positivity into all our hearts. I say we all take a moment today to thank Froy for all he does for us - he gives and gives everyday, and we only benefit.

Thank you Froy.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:21 am

Ash, I'm sorry to hear about your accident. I'm glad that you weren't hurt. I hope everything worked out for you with buying your house. I hate moving. I hope I never have to move again. Good luck with everything :)


Adam says:

It used to bug me that the pro Dennisites weren't busting Froy on his Froyistic Froyishness, but now I can get back to slaying bigger dragons. (I'm like a superhero.)


I'm still trying to figure out what you posted here - LOL HUH? :roll:

I guess I'm a "Pro-Dennisites", right?



The Guys say:

FROY: I respond to brainless disrespect all day thats why Im here

ADAM: Ya know, Froy is providing such a service for us all. He's here for our own good, shedding the light of positivity into all our hearts. I say we all take a moment today to thank Froy for all he does for us - he gives and gives everyday, and we only benefit.

Thank you Froy.


You guys are TOO funny!!! LOL
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