DDY Classic Rock Revisited Interview Preview

[styxfanNH]

This was posted as a preview to a DDY interview on Classic Rock Revisited. I don't know what the question was or the context in which it was asked, but here is the answer.

Dennis: I’ve got to be honest with you – that is a myth that has been developed by the two guys who are remaining in the band. I think the two guys who are remaining in the band had to figure out a reason why they kind of kicked me out. They justified their own existence by saying that. Cornerstone was our third of four triple platinum albums in a row. It did not affect our career one bit and anyone who says different is not telling the truth.

The rest is coming soon to www.classicrockrevisited.com

[thebook]

This was posted as a preview to a DDY interview on Classic Rock Revisited. I don't know what the question was or the context in which it was asked, but here is the answer.

Dennis: I’ve got to be honest with you – that is a myth that has been developed by the two guys who are remaining in the band. I think the two guys who are remaining in the band had to figure out a reason why they kind of kicked me out. They justified their own existence by saying that. Cornerstone was our third of four triple platinum albums in a row. It did not affect our career one bit and anyone who says different is not telling the truth.

The rest is coming soon to www.classicrockrevisited.com

go to the "rock talk" link and you'll find the context.

[styxfanNH]

the question was if babe caused a riot among the fan base...

[bugsymalone]

Thanks, book and NH. I could not find anything when I went to the link earlier. Be sure to post when the interview shows up, someone!

Bugsy

[sadie65]

the question was if babe caused a riot among the fan base...

And did it? I suppose it was/is a matter of what you thought the band was.

[froy]

This was posted as a preview to a DDY interview on Classic Rock Revisited. I don't know what the question was or the context in which it was asked, but here is the answer.

Dennis: I’ve got to be honest with you – that is a myth that has been developed by the two guys who are remaining in the band. I think the two guys who are remaining in the band had to figure out a reason why they kind of kicked me out. They justified their own existence by saying that. Cornerstone was our third of four triple platinum albums in a row. It did not affect our career one bit and anyone who says different is not telling the truth.

The rest is coming soon to www.classicrockrevisited.com

Go ahead Adam do the Adam said thing with Dennis
Bore the hell out of us again'
Come on Zan how bout a 1 liner

[froy]

the question was if babe caused a riot among the fan base...

And did it? I suppose it was/is a matter of what you thought the band was.

It was a number 1 song the only song that did was First Time
And I agree that was sap shit
But Paradise Theater made up for it,

[bugsymalone]

Babe was certainly a decent power ballad and EVERY group was doing a power ballad at one time or another. Often it would be the only hit for a group, or, at the least, their highest charting hit.

First Time....I agree with Froy. So sappy it makes my hair hurt. I am so glad it was not released as a single.

Did Babe cause a riot in the fan base? No. It just caused a lot of fans at shows to take their restroom break.

Bugsy

[froy]

Did Babe cause a riot in the fan base? No. It just caused a lot of fans at shows to take their restroom break.

Bugsy

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Or it gave them a chance to dance with there girl friends
Just like Open Arms and faithfully did

[Zan]

Any time somebody BRINGS UP a controversial topic to a band member of Styx, past or present, you can expect that you're going to get an answer that won't sit well with everyone. If Dennis had initiated the conversation in that direction, then I would jump on him for it, but the reality is, somebody ASKED HIM directly about it. What was he supposed to say, "Yes, Babe ruined our career?" C'mon. The guy's not an idiot.

The fact is, it DID alientate many of their "fans." It went to number one because a lot of people liked it, not necessarily FANS of the BAND. Then you can't deny that it did go to number one, so he did something right. However, the question is, did it ultimately bring down the band? I believe it was one of the straws that broke the camel's back, yes. But everyone has their own perception and opinion of whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.

Although, I do have to wonder if Dennis really believes that "Babe" was the only reason Tommy and JY could "come up with" as to why they kicked him out. LOL

[froy]

[b][color=magenta]Any time somebody BRINGS UP a controversial topic to a band member of Styx, past or present, you can expect that you're going to get an answer that won't sit well with everyone.

Why would this sit well with Styx fans
Dennis gets singled out by Shaw and Young for one song they now don't like and make fun of and it supposedly does not fit the so called style of the band, That is simply childish on there parts, I wonder what Kiss did when Beth was written ?

If Dennis had initiated the conversation in that direction, then I would jump on him for it, but the reality is, somebody ASKED HIM directly about it.

Why say if he brought it up you would jump on him when he did not do that, Why bring up a negative?

What was he supposed to say, "Yes, Babe ruined our career?" C'mon. The guy's not an idiot.

How could Babe ruin there career when the next cd they did and tour was there biggest ever. Ridiculous

The fact is, it DID alientate many of their "fans."

I disagree that tour was huge and so was the next one
Did Open Arms alienate JRNY fans no way
Its BS

It went to number one because a lot of people liked it, not necessarily FANS of the BAND. Then you can't deny that it did go to number one, so he did something right.

Exactly I brought more exposure to STYX so how could that be a bad thing , Look at what has happened in the last 6 years talk about alienating the fans this was the worst move ever,

However, the question is, did it ultimately bring down the band? I believe it was one of the straws that broke the camel's back,

Well if a band is looking for straws there is a bigger problem
If 1 song brings down a band there is a bigger problem

Although, I do have to wonder if Dennis really believes that "Babe" was the only reason Tommy and JY could "come up with" as to why they kicked him out.

Well this week were heard a few excuses
Fact is we were told on BTM that is was because he could not tour which we all know now was a total lie.
Chuck can't tour did they throw him out of the band ?

[Zan]

Chuck can't tour did they throw him out of the band ?

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No, Chuck called Glen Burtnik and asked him to fill in for him, as opposed to holding the band back because he couldn't go. You see, Chuck wasn't all about himself.

[ek88]

Babe was a great career move, commercially speaking, but was it the best thing for band unity? I'm not so sure.

Look at what has happened in the last 6 years talk about alienating the fans this was the worst move ever,

You keep saying this and the only thing that changes is the number of years as Styx continues to prove you wrong, year after year.

[Adam]

ek88: You keep saying this and the only thing that changes is the number of years as Styx continues to prove you wrong, year after year.

Adam: That's SOOOO right on. Froot, in your self-professed unlimited knowledge of the music biz, you SHOULD be able to recognize that there's simply NO FREAKING WAY any act could tour almost non-stop for 6+ years, play two Superbowls, play Regis & the Today Show, tour Germany & Japan, release NEW material, acquire radio airplay etc. etc. etc. if their product wasn't being embraced by many - or if they were unsuccessful.

Buyers wouldn't buy, and promoters wouldn't keep promoting, if less & less people were buying tickets.

For better or for worse. I'm not making a moral judgement here. Maybe that's YOUR battle. I'm just countering one of your endlessly repeated "facts" with a little dose of reality.

[yogi]

I had NO problem with Babe or ANY other ballad the band did. It did not cause me to run 1 step away from the band, and I was a DIE- Hard fan at the time.

The Kilroy album on the other hand made me not care near as much as I would have when the band broke up. I did not like Roboto, Cold War, or High Time at all. I also felt Dont Let It End was an aweful ballad, way way worse than First Time, and the song did not fit the theme of the album at all. Again, I REALLY REALLY liked the tour, but the album stunk, and was bad for the die hard fans.

Back to Babe, I had thought that I read somewhere that when Tommy and the rest of the band heard Dennis's demo of Babe they convinced Dennis to put it on their next album. That album was Cornerstone. How can they rip that song if that is in fact what happened??????

[froy]

Chuck can't tour did they throw him out of the band ?

No, Chuck called Glen Burtnik and asked him to fill in for him, as opposed to holding the band back because he couldn't go. You see, Chuck wasn't all about himself.

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Ah I see so Chuck made a call and dennis didn't yea right
Nice try .

[Monker]

Did Open Arms alienate JRNY fans no way
Its BS

No, but those type of songs painted Journey as a ballad band and moved them further away from the rock world...just as "Babe" did for Styx. Both Journey and Styx had 'hits' with their ballads, but also gave their lead singers an ego the size of a small planet. Neal hated "Open Arms", Tommy and JY hated Babe.

I don't recall either Tommy or JY saying there was a riot within the FANBASE, only a huge amount of conflict within the band...because they did not want to do the song (as Neal did not want to record "Open Arms").

Since Dennis is promoting this idea, perhaps HE is the one who is lying and creating his own mythology. Please quote Tommy or JY creating this myth of a 'riot among the fanbase'. I don't believe it is there.

[froy]

Back to Babe, I had thought that I read somewhere that when Tommy and the rest of the band heard Dennis's demo of Babe they convinced Dennis to put it on their next album. That album was Cornerstone. How can they rip that song if that is in fact what happened?????

You know you are correct about that
Good point

[Monker]

Ah I see so Chuck made a call and dennis didn't yea right
Nice try .

Yeah, Dennis made a call...he called his lawyers and sued the band.

Chuck stepped aside and let the band move forward. Dennis jumped in front of it and tried to stop it...and failed.

[froy]

Chuck stepped aside and let the band move forward.

Chuck was so sick he could not even pick up a phone
Nice story though



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[Zan]

Chuck stepped aside and let the band move forward.

Chuck was so sick he could not even pick up a phone
Nice story though

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You're so FOS, I'm amazed you can type at all.

[froy]

Chuck stepped aside and let the band move forward.

Chuck was so sick he could not even pick up a phone
Nice story though

You're so FOS, I'm amazed you can type at all.

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Back to the 1 liners I guess

[I Stumble In]

Quote:
Zan wrote:
froy wrote:
Quote:

Chuck stepped aside and let the band move forward.

Chuck was so sick he could not even pick up a phone
Nice story though

You're so FOS, I'm amazed you can type at all.

Back to the 1 liners I guess[/quote]


1 Liners with REALLY small words - so that you can follow along Froy. Don't want to confuse you.

I think Dennis is refering back to the Behind the Music show. The members did pile on about Babe - and the riff it caused when Tommy mocked it while with Damn Yankees. DDY is just getting a little confused - which will happen when you get older - and start to resemble Edgar Winter.

[styxfanNH]

Fact 1

Chuck has said numerous times that he is not able to tour the way they use to or the way they do now. He simply gets too warn down.

Fact 2

Chuck still sours with the guys and plays on a few songs when he is able and remains a part of the band.

Fact 3

When JY responds to a question, he gets slammed for not dodging the question. Dennis is asked a questiona and he is being honest.... seems like a double standard.

Fact 4

Dennis supposedly would stay above the fray and not slam Tommy or JY, but now on two recent occasions he is slamming JY and Tommy. What does that mean?

Fact 5
Chuck and Dennis haven't talked in years. Not even as friends. Last i knew, all phones can be used to call out.

Fact 6

When it came time to pick the future direction of the band, Chuck went with Tommy and JY.

[sadie65]

Fact 1

Chuck has said numerous times that he is not able to tour the way they use to or the way they do now. He simply gets too warn down.

Yes he has stated this. Hopefully his health will continue to be stable.

Fact 2

Chuck still sours with the guys and plays on a few songs when he is able and remains a part of the band.

I know Chuck still "tours" with the band. Hopefully he doesn't "sour" with them. Just a little fun StyxNH.

Fact 3

When JY responds to a question, he gets slammed for not dodging the question. Dennis is asked a questiona and he is being honest.... seems like a double standard.

No double standard. JY gets "slammed" because for a very long time it seemed he could not let go of his anger. Dennis should take his lumps when he responds the same way. At least for me he should.

Fact 4

Dennis supposedly would stay above the fray and not slam Tommy or JY, but now on two recent occasions he is slamming JY and Tommy. What does that mean?

Please cite the 2 occasions. I'm not being cute, I really want to know. If he did, it means that he needs to take a few breaths and get control of himself.

Fact 5
Chuck and Dennis haven't talked in years. Not even as friends. Last i knew, all phones can be used to call out.

Yes they can. And perhaps someday each man can decide if using that feature on a phone is right for them.

Fact 6

When it came time to pick the future direction of the band, Chuck went with Tommy and JY.

Chuck did what Chuck felt was right. They all did. They all won, and they all lost. Just like the rest of us.

For whatever it's worth, how about we wait to find out what Dennis was responding to, and in what context.

Peace

[styxfanNH]

Sadie,

I take Dennis' comments from this thread a slam at Tommy and JY and also on one of the audio interviews he gave last week (there is a thread in here somewhere to it) he slams Larry.

[sadie65]

Sadie,

I take Dennis' comments from this thread a slam at Tommy and JY and also on one of the audio interviews he gave last week (there is a thread in here somewhere to it) he slams Larry.

Okay. I don't know if what Dennis said here is a slam without reading the whole content and context. Should it prove to be a slam, then I think he was out of line.

The thread was regarding Dennis' interview that you posted (Big 105 interview). You asked if he slammed Larry. I said I had heard it and wasn't sure. I'm still not sure. No one else responded.

I can see the possibility there. I guess we'll agree to disagree. Not making any attempts at placating her. So for ME, it is still open as to whether or not he slammed his bandmates.

Peace

[styxfanNH]

The interview is posted......www.classicrockrevisited.com

[swwskj]

Okay after having read the entire interview, I don't know how anyone can take ANYTHING Dennis said as a slam against anyone. If he incriminates anyone, it is himself when he says that Mr. Roboto scared the "bejesus" out of the rock fans of Styx. He never mentions anyone by name and does not belittle the band.

What the interview left me with is his still crushed feelings. "Being in that band was the most precious thing in my life." He said he had to let go. He also said that he knew that everyone in the band had to be on the same page and that they weren't.

No double standard here. To compare what he says in the interview to some of the comment made by JY is just silly. JY responds to a question about Larry not by praising Larry, but be saying something about "how he is obviously better than the guy he replaced." This is why JY rubs people the wrong way.

Did Dennis slam Larry? Well I guess so. But hey he's got a point, listen to Larry cover Rockin' the Paradise and tell me Dennis doesn't have a point.

Bottom line: read the article and you'll see for yourself that Dennis is moving to a much healthier emotional place. (I would say something about the moral highroad, but I know how much Zan hates that )

Scott

[styxfanNH]

This is Jeb's response to a poster on the BB at CCR.

First thing is that DeYoung really did say it all in the Behind The Music. I HATE rehashing stuff that is already broadcast to the world in my interviews as 99% of people have read it. too bad you missed it as it was a good one.

Secondly, DeYoung -- as I mentioned really took a non-emotional stance in the interview. It was much like talking to a politician. He was there to promote PBS and I am lucky to have gotten any good Styx quotes. Also, I will tell you when the tide turned to Styx and we started getting into it... he ended it. So, don't blame me on that one

Thridly, I think CRR has had a lot bigger profiles than DeYoung on the site. Maybe not. But I think we go back to Tull, Deep Purple, Slash, Journey and a bunch of others. I don't agree that DeYoung is the biggest star on the site.. sh*t we even had a Rolling Stone!

I like your honest comments. I usually don't reply to comments due to time restraints and cos everyone seems to get pissed when I share in depth! Anyway, I would love to get DDY to talk more about Styx but he was not going to do it. I really don't think the dirt is the big deal... drugs, egos, money, fame, being away from family... the Styx story is pretty unique. But I would have liked to talk more about the emotions of being banned from styx and the financial arrangements i.e. if Dennis gets paid from Styx activities... I would guess he does cos of the rights to the name... that or they would have had to pay them off.

Once I got started then the interview took a turn to and he sang Carry On and said goodbye. I may have touched a nerve that he does not want to have touched. Maybe next time!!

That said, Dennis was really cool overall.

Thanks for the comments.