Does Size Matter?

[styxfanNH]

Why is it that the band's success is being based on the size of the venue? The average large scale tour may hit 30 cities, but Styx brings it to small venues 100 times a year or so. A number of the venues may be smaller, but I would guess that overall they are playing to about the same number of people.

We have discussed a number of times that many of us have felt that playing this many dates would diminish the number of fans at a concert, but when you are in an area 3 or 4 times a year, they certainy must equal out at some level. I know Tommy and JY and the rest of the gang have said a number of times, they just love to go out and play to the fans and that is what they are doing.

Most of us here have said fthat we enjoy seeing bands at smaller venues, but some criticize Styx for playing the very venues we say we like to here them in.

Some try to compare them to a pop band and expect them to play to that type of popularity. WHich for their genre of music is not being done by any other act (U2 doesn't count).

Bruce Springsteen is playing in 3500 seat venues. Glad to see he is washed up to.

There is no way you can compare Styx today to Styx of the late 70's/early 80's. The genre just doesn't get that much respect from radio. And if that is your standard, pop vs classic rock, then basically all the bands and artists we listened to as kids might as well be retired, cuz it doesn't meet the "today" standarad you hold them up to. But then again, if it wasn't for Classic Rock artists, there would be very litlle live music. Just look to the number of Pop acts that toured last year. The industry knows that for most of the Pop acts, its three years and done, while classic rock marches on.

[Guest]

There is no way you can compare Styx today to Styx of the late 70's/early 80's. The genre just doesn't get that much respect from radio.

Doesn't matter. Is "Cyclorama" in the same league as "Grand Illusion", "Pieces Of Eight", or "Paradise Theater"?

We both know it isn't.

[styxfanNH]

There is no way you can compare Styx today to Styx of the late 70's/early 80's. The genre just doesn't get that much respect from radio.

Doesn't matter. Is "Cyclorama" in the same league as "Grand Illusion", "Pieces Of Eight", or "Paradise Theater"?

We both know it isn't.

Never said it was, but the songs on there are solid songs, we both know it's true.

[Guest]

There is no way you can compare Styx today to Styx of the late 70's/early 80's. The genre just doesn't get that much respect from radio.

Doesn't matter. Is "Cyclorama" in the same league as "Grand Illusion", "Pieces Of Eight", or "Paradise Theater"?

We both know it isn't.

Never said it was, but the songs on there are solid songs, we both know it's true.

There is one good tune on that album, TATT. The album is mostly average with a few horrific moments... usually when Gowan is handling vocals.

[froy]

There is no way you can compare Styx today to Styx of the late 70's/early 80's. The genre just doesn't get that much respect from radio.

Doesn't matter. Is "Cyclorama" in the same league as "Grand Illusion", "Pieces Of Eight", or "Paradise Theater"?

We both know it isn't.

Never said it was, but the songs on there are solid songs, we both know it's true.

Solid songs means what songs you like and stick up for
If they were so solid they would be on the radio .

[bugsymalone]

To get back to the ORIGINAL SUBJECT......

I like any venue where the artist feels comfortable performing, the crowd is into it, the sound quality is first rate, and everyone leaves feeling they had a wonderful time and a wonderful concert experience.

So, no, size does not matter. Quality of the performance and the experience does.

Bugsy

[froy]

To get back to the ORIGINAL SUBJECT......

I like any venue where the artist feels comfortable performing, the crowd is into it, the sound quality is first rate, and everyone leaves feeling they had a wonderful time and a wonderful concert experience.

So, no, size does not matter. Quality of the performance and the experience does.

Bugsy

Sounds like the Lost Treasures Show at the HOB.

[classicstyxfan]

So, no, size does not matter. Quality of the performance and the experience does.

-Bugsy


There are so many retorts available, yet I know not where to start !!!!!


I'll leave it at that !

[sadie65]

So, no, size does not matter. Quality of the performance and the experience does.

-Bugsy


There are so many retorts available, yet I know not where to start !!!!!


I'll leave it at that !

Classic...for shame!!!!!!

[bugsymalone]

There are so many retorts available, yet I know not where to start !!!!!

Then DON'T start!!!

Puleeze, let's not go there!!!!! We have had enough of this on some of the other threads.



Bugsy

[classicstyxfan]

Taking words and removing them from their intended context is something we Marketing types do almost reflexively......

I showed as much restraint as I could muster, really I did !

[SuiteMadameBlue]

LOL, you're funny Classic

I personally perfer the smaller venues. I like being up close to the stage instead of way in back with 10,000 people. I don't mind the fairs anymore, I like being able to go up to the front row and see a concert for free. I also can't stand fighting with the people scalping tickets and making the prices of good seats go way up over value.

I'm just so happy to see any show

[Zan]

LOL, you're funny Classic

I personally perfer the smaller venues. I like being up close to the stage instead of way in back with 10,000 people. I don't mind the fairs anymore, I like being able to go up to the front row and see a concert for free. I also can't stand fighting with the people scalping tickets and making the prices of good seats go way up over value.

I'm just so happy to see any show

ditto for all three sentiments!

[Abitaman]

I like the smaller places better. Saw Styx in 96. bought my ticket a week after going on sell. I was there with 13,000 other people, so far from stage it was un real. If your one of the lucky one upfront at a big place, its good, but otherwise..........ERIC

[ek88]

As I've gotten older, smaller venues have more appeal to me. There was a time when I would've wanted a band I went to see play a large venue, simply for vanity's sake or an ego boost. But now I'm not concerned with whether the band is popular, on the radio, selling tons of albums. The smaller crowds, better seats (usually), and cheaper ticket prices that smaller venues offer are much more alluring for me these days.

[evileyes]

Since my first Styx show was the EOTC tour, I've never seen them at a large venue. I saw both Kiss & Billy Joel at our local arena (great seats for Kiss, cloud section for BJ), and agree, from my limited experience, it's a much better show if your close to the stage in a large venue.

...and cheaper ticket prices that smaller venues offer are much more alluring for me these days.

Now, I'm not finding the smaller venues cheaper, at least not with DeYoung. Most of the shows I've seen have run me about $75 per ticket. Since I admittedly don't go to many concerts, I don't know. Maybe this is considered cheap nowadays?

[styxfanNH]

Styx concerts run typically from $35 to $45. A little higher in places like NYC.

Dennis runs about the same when there is no orchestra. His NYC tix are $55 for NYC this weekend.

[Adam]

Froy: If they were so solid they would be on the radio

Adam: Right. And VanGough would've died stinking filthy rich and - according to YOU DeYoung's new songs should be on the radio too.

Froylogic.

[evileyes]

Styx concerts run typically from $35 to $45. A little higher in places like NYC.

Dennis runs about the same when there is no orchestra. His NYC tix are $55 for NYC this weekend.

Well, I was including ticketmonster charges. I think the HOB show ran me $69 (not counting the travel expenses).

[kansas666]

Why is it that the band's success is being based on the size of the venue? The average large scale tour may hit 30 cities, but Styx brings it to small venues 100 times a year or so. A number of the venues may be smaller, but I would guess that overall they are playing to about the same number of people.

Well actually, size does matter. It takes money to put on a show. So if you put on 2 shows in different places to 2,000 people at each location, you would make less money than one show for 4.000 fans.

Plus if you have 2 bands like REO and STYX that each might draw about 2,000 fans to their show alone, together they can draw about 5,000 fans.

That being said, I prefer the smaller venues too. I like seeing a rock band in an intimate theater or a casino where some serves me drinks.

But I also like going to a county fair where I can get right down front for 8 bucks.

[Adam]

Size matters. Here's how I see it.

To the band, the bigger the venue and the more tickets sold, the better the business and the bigger the payday. God Bless 'em.

To ME, the smaller the venue, the closer we all are, the more intimite, the better the view, often the better the sound (do you guys really LIKE the sound of HOCKEY RINKS?) and more memorable the evening.

Sitting way out staring at the images of the performers projected on a screen is like sitting at home watching the concert on television - but in an uncomfortable seat, with loud but distorted sound and a buncha noisey, smoking drunks nearby for too much money.