Alternate World III

[styxfanNH]

What if Cyclorama was released and instead of Fields of the Brave and More Love for the Money, they were replaced with "A Love Foretold" and "My God can Beat Up Your God". Would this have been a cd you couldn't do without?

[Guest]

No, although it would be an improvement it would basically be BNW Part II then.

If they're ever going to recapture the real magic of Styx they'd need Dennis DeYoung to produce the entire album and contribute more than 2 songs.

By the way, am I the only one who thinks MLFTM sounds like a bad Genesis song?

[Guest]

By the way, I've never heard "A Love Foretold"... I assume it's a ballad... is it any good?

[styxfanNH]

By the way, I've never heard "A Love Foretold"... I assume it's a ballad... is it any good?

Why would you assume that? lol

[Guest]

By the way, I've never heard "A Love Foretold"... I assume it's a ballad... is it any good?

Why would you assume that? lol

Well, I can't imagine someone writing a rock song for a romance novel.

[ek88]

If they're ever going to recapture the real magic of Styx they'd need Dennis DeYoung to produce the entire album and contribute more than 2 songs.

And make a conscious effort to stay away from the ballads! It's not that I terribly dislike them, but I terribly miss his older stuff. I'm not saying that I want a Grand Illusion or Pieces Of Eight carbon copy, but at least something more in that vein.

Nothing is worse than when a band not known exclusively for the ballad overdoes it. Styx, IMO, falls into this category. Def Leppard comes to mind as well (post-Hysteria). A couple of newer bands that I like are Hoobastank and Blink 182. Both have recently gotten airplay with slower songs (The Reason and I Miss You). I'd hate to see them get carried away, especially after how much their signature sound attracted me, without the slow songs. (Sound familiar, Styx fans?)

But in all fairness, an equal argument can be made by those who get tired of the same old, same old (although in my opinion, the DeYoung ballad is no longer a new direction, it has turned into old hat).

Okay, there's your little ek88 rant on how every band should operate. (You'll notice that no bands are actively seeking my musical advice -- 'nuff said).

[Monker]

No, although it would be an improvement it would basically be BNW Part II then.

If they're ever going to recapture the real magic of Styx they'd need Dennis DeYoung to produce the entire album and contribute more than 2 songs.

By the way, am I the only one who thinks MLFTM sounds like a bad Genesis song?

The only problem is that Dennis hasn't written and produced an album with the 'real magic of Styx' since Paradise Theatre. DeYoung alone did not have some magic power. In fact, IMO, it has the exact opposite effect.

[BlackWall]

I'll be honest, I actually kind of like "More Love For The Money", but if "Cyclorama" would have had "My God Can Beat Up Your God", along with "Goodnight My Love", I would have enjoyed it even more. If the guys would have actually all had input, and balanced each other out(unlike "Brave New World")perhaps "My God" wouldn't have sounded quite as Broadway as it did.

One last thought,does anyone know if Dennis wrote all three of the new songs for his live album, including "Goodnight My Love"?

[DeeJaySTYX]

BlackWall Wrote;

One last thought,does anyone know if Dennis wrote all three of the new songs for his live album, including "Goodnight My Love"?

It says on the inside bottom right that all songs written by Dennis DeYoung except Lorelei written by Dennis and JY, and Rockin' The Paradise written by Dennis, JY, and Tommy Shaw....


DeeJay.....

[kansas666]

What if Cyclorama was released and instead of Home of the Brave and More Love for the Money, they were replaced with "A Love Foretold" and "My God can Beat Up Your God". Would this have been a cd you couldn't do without?

No. I like Gowan's contributions.

Incidentally it is called "Fields of the Brave"

[froy]

No. I like Gowan's contributions.

That makes 1 of you



Incidentally it is called "Fields of the Brave"

And thats a rippoff of show me the way,

[ChicagoSTYX]

I also like LG’s songs on Cyclorama. So I guess that would make 2 of us! There is a review of Big Bang on StyxCollector.com that is interesting. Especially the part about Larry’s songs being the best and most classic Styx sounding.

[Guest]

What if Cyclorama was released and instead of Home of the Brave and More Love for the Money, they were replaced with "A Love Foretold" and "My God can Beat Up Your God". Would this have been a cd you couldn't do without?

No, because there are no great Tommy Shaw songs on this album. Just a bunch of average at best songs... but they RAWK

When's the last time Tommy Shaw wrote a GREAT song? Damn Yankees first album.

No. I like Gowan's contributions.

Incidentally it is called "Fields of the Brave"

Then you obviously don't really Styx all that much if you would rather have Gowan than DeYoung.

It's one thing to accept Gowan, another to prefer him.

And who cares what it's called. LOL

[ChicagoSTYX]

When was the last time Tommy wrote a great song?

One With Everything from Cyclorama!

[styxfanNH]

What if Cyclorama was released and instead of "Fields of the Brave" and "More Love for the Money", they were replaced with "A Love Foretold" and "My God can Beat Up Your God". Would this have been a cd you couldn't do without?

Ok we'll add "Goodnight My Love" too and take out a couple of the "transition" pieces or the Jack Blades bit.

(and I fixed the Fields of the brave title....Shouldn't talk to your kids and post at the same time)

[Guest]

And please get rid of the Billy Bob Thornton crap while you're at it.

Horrendous.

[Guest]

When was the last time Tommy wrote a great song?

One With Everything from Cyclorama!

LOL. Sorry I said GREAT song.

"Accept no imitations."

[ChicagoSTYX]

One With Everything from Cyclorama![/quote]

LOL. Sorry I said GREAT song.[/quote]

It is a GREAT song in my opinion. In fact it is better then any song that Styx or any member or former member of Styx has recorded since 1980. What would your example of a GREAT Styx song be that was recorded after 1980?

[Adam]

I'd like to point out that I too like Gowan's contributions to Cyclorama. So that's three, Froy, in case you felt you were making some earth shattering conclusion that NOBODY likes the guy.

Froy, there ARE opinions other than yours. And God put me here to point this out to you.

[Guest]

I'd like to point out that I too like Gowan's contributions to Cyclorama. So that's three, Froy, in case you felt you were making some earth shattering conclusion that NOBODY likes the guy.

Froy, there ARE opinions other than yours. And God put me here to point this out to you.

Some people like McDonald's and some like Filet Mignon.

Some people accept no imitations.

If it weren't for people like you eating up this second rate insignificant crap, we'd probably have the real thing right now.

[Guest]

It is a GREAT song in my opinion. In fact it is better then any song that Styx or any member or former member of Styx has recorded since 1980. What would your example of a GREAT Styx song be that was recorded after 1980?

You're whacky. "Black Wall" is a better song than anything any member of Styx has produced solo or anything on Cyclorama.

I can also name about 4 Dennis songs on KWH that are much better than OWE.

[jthansen1]

One With Everything from Cyclorama!

LOL. Sorry I said GREAT song.[/quote]

It is a GREAT song in my opinion. In fact it is better then any song that Styx or any member or former member of Styx has recorded since 1980. What would your example of a GREAT Styx song be that was recorded after 1980?[/quote]

one with everything is a total kick ass song

[froy]

I'd like to point out that I too like Gowan's contributions to Cyclorama. So that's three, Froy, in case you felt you were making some earth shattering conclusion that NOBODY likes the guy.

Froy, there ARE opinions other than yours. And God put me here to point this out to you.

Yea but Crazy you have 1st row seats to William Hung so your opinion is worthless.
Just thought I would point that out to ya Crazy

[froy]

I also like LG’s songs on Cyclorama. So I guess that would make 2 of us! There is a review of Big Bang on StyxCollector.com that is interesting. Especially the part about Larry’s songs being the best and most classic Styx sounding.

Just goes to show what Styxcollector dot com knows.

[DeeJaySTYX]

And please get rid of the Billy Bob Thornton crap while you're at it.

Horrendous.

Gotta agree with you there.....

When's the last time Tommy Shaw wrote a GREAT song? Damn Yankees first album

Actually, One With Everything and On My Way are 2 great songs (IMO)....


DeeJay....

[Adam]

"If it weren't for people like you eating up this second rate insignificant crap, we'd probably have the real thing right now."

That may be true. And judging from the fact that the band has not only endured, but contined tour rather successfully for over SIX FREAKIN YEARS I suppose the list of 'people like me' is rather humongous.

But then again, you can call me crazy.

[Monker]

Incidentally it is called "Fields of the Brave"

And thats a rippoff of show me the way,

which is a ripoff of a Storm song, or is it a Frampton song? Whatever. It takes more then a few syllables to make a song a 'ripoff'.

[Monker]

I also like LG’s songs on Cyclorama. So I guess that would make 2 of us!

I like them too...I like "More Love For the Money" more then "Fields of the Brave", but they are both good songs.

[Guest]

"If it weren't for people like you eating up this second rate insignificant crap, we'd probably have the real thing right now."

That may be true. And judging from the fact that the band has not only endured, but contined tour rather successfully for over SIX FREAKIN YEARS I suppose the list of 'people like me' is rather humongous.

But then again, you can call me crazy.

Humongous is not a word to describe Styx attendance.

Sorry, keep eating dogfood... it suits you.

[Monker]

When's the last time Tommy Shaw wrote a GREAT song? Damn Yankees first album.

I think almost all of the songs on 7DZ are 'great' songs. Even Dennis complimented "I Will Be Your witness" from BNW.

Then you obviously don't really Styx all that much if you would rather have Gowan than DeYoung.

It's one thing to accept Gowan, another to prefer him.

and, it's not up to you to say who does and does not like Styx.