One With Everything

[froy]

Adam: Okay, so we now see YOUR DEFINITION of the term “Has Been”. I suppose Dessert Moon was not a hit and Dennis never had a career as successful as he does right now, right[/quote]?

No Dennis never had a successful solo career.
He had 1 hit and that was it
His solo career was 1 tenth of his STYX career,
Right now he has a successful solo concert career
When a new cd comes out we will see if it does anything ,

I also suppose Katrina And The Wave, Dexy’s Midnite Runners, Enuff Znuff, Patrick Moraz, Jan Michael Vincent and Alec John Such (original ex-bassist of Bon Jovi) aren’t has beens either.

Who the hell cares ?

Froy: on the BTM show they said there jaws dropped because he said he could not tour. Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNIS,
Adam: You don’t want me to do that. We’ve been through this before, and for the sake of our fellow readers, I’ll decline.

You decline because your a wimp and you can't back it up .

Froy: The bottom line ADAM is the money was not comming in fast enough
Froy: all they have to do is keep giving tickets away for free and they will have fans
Adam: Which is it? Are they doing it to make money? Are they doing it to lose money?

There doing it for SPITE
And there 5000 dollars per show.

Froy: I have a phone interview with Shaw that we did in 99 and he does nothing but Praise Dennis,
Adam: Watch a TV talk show. You will see a parade of actors showing clips of new movies, speaking glowingly about their new films.

Or look at JY who say;s this is the best ever
I get your point no matter which spin we hear its hype bullshit.
I agree.,

Froy: When he gets sick and can't tour all of a sudden he's a pain and nobody can work with the guy,
Adam: My point exactly. If it were as simple as you say, I find it hard to believe they would’ve walked. There’s more, much much more and it’s certainly their prerogative to choose to not discuss all the private details with the public.

They did discuss it with the public and there story is unexceptable.

[Monker]

He was but not like he is today

Dennis is a nothing right now. He tours...so what.

Damm Yankees and how it derailed Styx for the same 5 years

You asked why Dennis was fired...I didn't know DY had anything to do with Dennis being fired.

I see Shaw can do an outside projects but Dennis can't
Ridiculous.

DY didn't derail Styx. Tommy didn't take them to court to stop it like Dennis did. Hunchback was a continual excuse for Dennis to not do Styx or shorten tours.

And, last I saw, HE CONTINUES TO PROMOTE IT.

The band was snorting cocaine during Kilroy that broke up the band for 10 years

And, Kilroy just added to the problems that already existed.

Kilroy was a great cd and tour

Kilroy completely sucked.

too bad we had a drug addict turning everyone in the band against each other,

Too bad Styx had a egomaniac turning everybody in the band against him.

He was the manager of the team he had the right to over rule them.

He did not have a 'right'. He was ALLOWED to do it...and that ended with BNW.

Your an idiot

Amazing! You spelled 'idiot' correctly.

They wanted Shaw back he was doing something else

Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

He was too good for STYX back then now he's useless.

The fact that they moved on without Tommy leaves the door open to moving on without Dennis. That's very simple logic...deal with it.

Your an idiot .

You spelled it correctly again!

But, that doesn't change the fact that Dennis is a potential liar.

Fine support a band that is digging into your wallet

They only get the money I give them...they don't 'dig into' my wallet.

Your like a cheap john.

And, you are like a fat lady who keeps singing but the show never ends.

[Andrew]

Round and round and round and round and round....

[froy]

[quote="Monker"
He was but not like he is today

Dennis is a nothing right now. He tours...so what. [/quote]

Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.

You asked why Dennis was fired...I didn't know DY had anything to do with Dennis being fired

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion
Still no proof.

Hunchback was a continual excuse for Dennis to not do Styx or shorten tours.

Shorten tours ?
They toured like every other normal classic rock band
Summer 50 date tours.
If Shaw would have not done DY they may have toured in the early 90's
Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw
IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

Kilroy was a great cd and tour

Kilroy completely sucked.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD
Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before
Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.

too bad we had a drug addict turning everyone in the band against each other,


Too bad Styx had a egomaniac turning everybody in the band against him.

Yea Shaw was a egomaniac also.
The coke didnt help either.

They wanted Shaw back he was doing something else


Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Yea right show me where I said moved on
Get real
They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas

He was too good for STYX back then now he's useless.


The fact that they moved on without Tommy leaves the door open to moving on without Dennis. That's very simple logic...deal with it.

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.

But, that doesn't change the fact that Dennis is a potential liar.

This say's it all.

[Monker]

Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.

They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.

Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.

they all suck.

Yea Shaw was a egomaniac also.
The coke didnt help either.

Maybe it made it easier to deal with Dennis.

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on

in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas

And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.

The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

[Andrew]

You two should just get a room already.

[classicstyxfan]

Gee Andrew, now that you put it that way.......their bickering is a bit like that of a married couple.... isn't it ?

[styxfanNH]

If they both don't leave the room with a smile on their face, then only one would come out alive...

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[froy]

Monker"
Styx is nothing right now they tour so what.


They tour, release new albums, and new songs are heard on radio...that is a LOT more then you can claim for Dennis.

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .
As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units
Big deal
There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.
Wow what a popular band.

I asked for proof to why Dennis was fired and you give your lame opinion. Still no proof.


Wrong. You said, "Show me 1 other reason why they dumped DENNI"

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.
Show some proof
Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,
Your great at making up BS ya never can back anything up .

Funny how you don't give any blame to Shaw

Shaw joining Damn Yankees resulted in him being replaced in Styx. It had NOTHING to do with Dennis losing his position in Styx.[/quote]

Da really
Yea he was replaced and welcomed back with open arms
In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,
Im glad Shaw is so thankfull to Dennis for that
Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

IML is right you aways dump on Dennis and never give blame to anyone else.
What a joke.

So what. You always dump on Styx and never lay any blame on Dennis. That is just as much of a joke.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out
Thats the sign of 2 children who have issues.

They did 4 sold out shows in Chicago and one of them was 13 thousand fans. Sounds like your opinion was overruled,
Kilroy was a great CD

Kilroy sucked. I don't care how many people saw the show or bought the album, it still sucked. William Hung sold and became popular too, and he sucks.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .
Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Double Life, Just Get Through This Night, Haven't We Been Here Before Don't Let It End, nothing wrong with that.


they all suck.

Sure Monk anything else ?

I said:
Make up your mind. Last I knew, you thought they moved on because of Shaw's cocaine habit.

Froy replied:
Yea right show me where I said moved on


in alt.music.journey, January 12, 2003, froy said


What did the band want Monker ?
Shaw was on coke , missing band meetings , band rehersals and trying to bring drugs into Dennis 's house , Maybe Dennis kept blowing off Shaw's requests to come back to Styx because he did not want to be around a drug addict . Did ya ever think of that, You want to use the word asshole than point it in the direction of the junky

>(monker said) YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

(froy said) Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band


Now you are saying they wanted Tommy back. Make up your mind.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal /
Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

They stalled because of Shaws coke problem
JY told me this face to face in vegas


And, YOU said that is why he was not in the EotC Styx...and I don't believe it is true, at all.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem
We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

The fact is Shaw was asked to return
Your logic is idiotic.


The fact is they moved on without Shaw. If they can replace Shaw, they can replace Dennis.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis
You lose
Again.

[styxfanNH]

Whycan't we just accept that at least for this moment in time, JY, Tommy and Chuck are happy with the way things are and there is nothing that any of us are going to do or say right now that will create a situation for Dennis to return.

Maybe in the future, but not right now. Yelling at those of us here isn't going to change that. It just ruins the BB.

I would think that at some point we all would like to see Dennis back with Styx in some capacity, but right now is not the time its going to happen.

[froy]

Whycan't we just accept that at least for this moment in time, JY, Tommy and Chuck are happy with the way things are and there is nothing that any of us are going to do or say right now that will create a situation for Dennis to return.

Maybe in the future, but not right now. Yelling at those of us here isn't going to change that. It just ruins the BB.

I would think that at some point we all would like to see Dennis back with Styx in some capacity, but right now is not the time its going to happen.

I don't know why this is such a big deal
We are having good debates
I think its a good thing
Now back to the battle .

[Monker]

I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .

To which I say there are probably 100 other acts out there who are more 'successfull' then Dennis. In fact, I believe Styx would be one of them.

As far as Styx so what they tour and release new cds that sell 20 thousand units Big deal

And, Dennis tours and releases new CD's that sell so badly that figures are probably not even available....even less of a big deal.

There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone.

Not true...But, it's more then Dennis' new songs have been played.

Wow what a popular band.

What an even less popular singer.

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.

I gave you reasons that your warped mind does not want to accept.

Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,

It was posted to BackTalk some months ago. Go look it up.

In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,

Ah, i see...So, that is why he was shopping for labels for Styx after EotC.

Now JY say's the last thing he wants to do is stand on the same stage as Dennis
Shaw is an ungreatfull selfish bastard ,

Neither Tommy or JY have any reason to stand on stage next to Dennis. Styx is perfectly fine without him.

Its beyond laying blame the guy gets sick they throw him out

The guy sues the band and they throw him out permanently.

Talk about singing the same song over and over again
The William Hing thing is long over .

So is Dennis' time in Styx...But, that doesn't stop you from this repetitive banter.

Its funny you think Kilroy sucked and BBT is great
Most are just laughing at you now Monker.

Fine with me. Edge sucked almost as much as Kilroy. Maybe that'll make'em laugh too.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal

Then you are a liar. You said in that post that Dennis ignored Tommy's calls for a reunion and then replaced him for Edge because Dennis didn't want to be around a coke addict. Read your own post.

Shaw was asked back in 91 we all know that
Don't mix the years together

I'm not - YOU DID NOT EVEN READ YOUR OWN POST.

Tommy asked for the Styx reunion - multiple times. Dennis delayed and delayed, and then HE TOLD TOMMY to join DY. Then, after Tommy was in DY, Styx reformed without him. ACCORDING TO YOU, it was because Tommy was on coke.

No I said that is why there was nothing after Kilroy Shaw 's coke problem

You said, "Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell Tommy to go play with another band "

Now, you are changing your mind.

We all know he was not in EOTC because he refused and went to damm Yankees

He was TOLD BY DENNIS TO DO DY. Even Dennis has admitted that.

the same thing you are saying Dennis did with Hunchback.
Same damm thing .
Shaw gets away with it Dennis gets dumped .
Thats fair.
Yea right

Tommy moved on to DY and let Styx go. Dennis tried to have both and couldn't let EITHER go...So, the choice was made for him, and I'm happy that Tommy and JY did it.

And if they can ask Shaw to come back they can do the same with Dennis

They 'can', but they won't.

You lose
Again.

There is nothing here to win or lose.

[Monker]

I don't know why this is such a big deal
We are having good debates
I think its a good thing
Now back to the battle .

LOL! You think of this as a 'debate'? A debate, IMO, implies there is something to win or lose...that isn't going to happen here. This is just the same old recycled garbage. Garbage in, garbage out. It's meaningless, completely worthless.

[ek88]

Sheesh, froy, I know we all razz you about repeating yourself, but all those identical posts are a bit excessive, don't you think?????

[froy]

Monker"
I did not claim anything for Dennis other than he has a successfull concert tour going .


To which I say there are probably 100 other acts out there who are more 'successfull' then Dennis. In fact, I believe Styx would be one of them

Thats a good one
Fact is if Shaw and Young and Dennis all played solo shows in the same city
Dennis would beat both of them combined,
Without the STYX name which was started by Dennis they would be worthless.. In fact they are worthless even with the name.

And, Dennis tours and releases new CD's that sell so badly that figures are probably not even available....even less of a big deal

So you just piped back in to keep this fight going
ONCE AGAIN I KNOW YOUR SLOW
Don't say things ya can't back up with solid evidence,.

There songs get played on the radio for about 3 days and then there gone. Not true...But, it's more then Dennis' new songs have been played.

Your right it lasted 2 days not 3 .
When Dennis puts out a new cd we shall see what happens.

Wow what a popular band.

With an even less popular singer.

Which one Gowan Shaw JY you name it.

I gave you many other reasons.

You gave me your made up stories.


I gave you reasons that your warped mind does not want to accept

Your a nobody your reasons are meaningless there made up
Next

Like you forgot to do with the Neal Schon saying he's giving away cds to show the cd is platinum,

It was posted to BackTalk some months ago. Go look it up

Ah I see you base your facts on what people say on message boards.
Now I see.

In fact Dennis would not have done STYX again without Shaw being back in the band,


Ah, i see...So, that is why he was shopping for labels for Styx after EotC

They were shopping EDGE 2 very obvious

[Neither Tommy or JY have any reason to stand on stage next to Dennis. Styx is perfectly fine without him.

Right perfectly fine with 18 thousand fans
Awesome band man,
Huge following,
Without Dennis DeYoung they would not even be on a stage in the first place

The guy sues the band and they throw him out permanently.

Good move taking them to court I wish he would have gone all the way with it.

Fine with me. Edge sucked almost as much as Kilroy. Maybe that'll make'em laugh too.

Your not a Styx fan Monk pretty easy to see.

And I said Moved on where ?
Shaw's coke problem was during Kilroy Damm Yankess was 7 years later
Nice try pal


Then you are a liar. You said in that post that Dennis ignored Tommy's calls for a reunion and then replaced him for Edge because Dennis didn't want to be around a coke addict. Read your own post

No you read the post I never said anything about The Edge tour
Shaw was not even doing coke at that time
Learn to read and understand when a smart person like me talks to an ingrown toe nail like you.

[Guest]

To which I say there are probably 100 other acts out there who are more 'successfull' then Dennis. In fact, I believe Styx would be one of them.

That's like criticizing McCartney for not being as successful as The Beatles.

Get real. If Dennis toured using the name Styx with Sucherman, Burtnik and a couple guitarists I'm sure they would do the same if not better on the summer tour circuit.

[Monker]

Fact is if Shaw and Young and Dennis all played solo shows in the same city Dennis would beat both of them combined,
Without the STYX name which was started by Dennis they would be worthless.. In fact they are worthless even with the name.

I can almost gaurantee you that if Styx and Dennis played in this town that Styx would have twice the audience of Dennis. If Styx is worthless then Dennis is worthless divided by 2.

So you just piped back in to keep this fight going

This 'fight' continues whether I 'pipe back in' or not. In fact, I'm accused of piping in even when I don't. So, I may as well do what I do best and not worry about anything, cuz whether I do or not makes absolutely no difference.

Don't say things ya can't back up with solid evidence,.

Oh, you mean like Dennis did Edge without Tommy because of Tommy's coke habit? Or, how about the one about bringing drugs into Dennnis' house? Maybe the three days airplay for BBT? Or, all of the BS about the VW comercial being the reason Tommy/JY moved on without Dennis?

You have no 'solid evidence' for any of the above but you repeatedly claim it as fact.

The FACT is the Neal said he didn't give a damn about Billboard not recognizing the sales of Generations. He said Generations would be the first platinum album for this lineup because that is how many people they were going to play to this year. I know he said it. I even went on about it on the Journey forum here after that article.

You just refuse to believe that Journey and Styx are on equal ground now...and Styx can do things like get on Billboard and on the radio while Journey can't.

When Dennis puts out a new cd we shall see what happens.

He has already released new songs to radio and none of them have done anything. They have had so little airplay that you choose to discard them, ignore them, and make excuses why they were never heard.

I said:
With an even less popular singer.

Froy said:
Which one Gowan Shaw JY you name it.

Dennis is FAR less popular then Styx is right now. Deal with it. Albums on Billboard, songs on the radio...Dennis has not accomplished those things in probably fifteen years.

Ah I see you base your facts on what people say on message boards.
Now I see.

No, it's what Neal said in an interview.

I said:
Ah, i see...So, that is why he was shopping for labels for Styx after EotC

You said:
They were shopping EDGE 2 very obvious

So, according to you, he couldn't get a the deal HE wanted for Styx so he moved back into Hunchback land...and dropped Styx. Then, after Hunchback was dangling by a thread, he went back to Styx.

THAT sounds VERY much like what JY was saying when he said Dennnis was using Styx at HIS convenience...Which is yet another reason for Styx to move on without him.

Without Dennis DeYoung they would not even be on a stage in the first place

What was that you said about not saying things without 'solid evidence'. There is NO evidence to support the statement above because you are inventing an alternate history...NOBODY KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

Good move taking them to court I wish he would have gone all the way with it.

Obviously Dennis feels different then you...and, IMO, that lawsuit sealed his fate of being ousted from Styx FOREVER.

I said:
Fine with me. Edge sucked almost as much as Kilroy. Maybe that'll make'em laugh too.

You said:
Your not a Styx fan Monk pretty easy to see.

I am not a person who accepts half-assed concept albums and mediocre pop crap as 'Styx' (or Journey). Edge was better then Kilroy, but they both still suck.

No you read the post I never said anything about The Edge tour
Shaw was not even doing coke at that time
Learn to read and understand when a smart person like me talks to an ingrown toe nail like you.

Froy, the ENTIRE CONVERSATION was about Edge. What kinda moron can't even read his own posts and understand them? You are turning your back ON YOUR OWN WORDS. What is so hard to understand about this:

I said:
YOU are mistaken by saying Tommy chose DY over Styx.

YOU replied:
Your right he chose cocaine over Styx which lead Dennis to tell
Tommy to go play with another band ,

[Monker]

That's like criticizing McCartney for not being as successful as The Beatles.

No, it's not. Styx was NEVER as popular as the Beatles, and Dennis was NEVER as popular as Paul McCartney.

It's more like saying Lou Gramm has no where near the solo success as Foreigner.

Get real. If Dennis toured using the name Styx with Sucherman, Burtnik and a couple guitarists I'm sure they would do the same if not better on the summer tour circuit.

No they wouldn't cuz: Sucherman already has a job and I doubt he is going to give it up for Dennis and Dennis can't tour as Styx anyway.

[DeeJaySTYX]

You two should just get a room already.

Er, Motel 6 will never be the same....

DeeJay...

[styxfanNH]

To which I say there are probably 100 other acts out there who are more 'successfull' then Dennis. In fact, I believe Styx would be one of them.

That's like criticizing McCartney for not being as successful as The Beatles.

Get real. If Dennis toured using the name Styx with Sucherman, Burtnik and a couple guitarists I'm sure they would do the same if not better on the summer tour circuit.

Todd and Glen have issues with Dennis, those guys would never tour together. You can put Chuck in there too.

[Andrew]

This topic has gone on long enough surely....time to put it out of it's mysery?