People like Monker and Zan are fine with you unless you state an anti-Styx, pro Dennis opinion.
I don't have any problem with people being "pro" Dennis and making "pro" Dennis posts. What I don't care for is people being "anti" Styx and coming here and doing nothing but posting "anti" Styx messages with the idea that they are being "pro" Dennis. What's the point of coming to a Styx forum if all you read are "anti" Styx posts?
They can criticize Dennis
I don't constantly criticize Dennis. When I do it is mostly in reply to some "anti" Styx post. So what?
criticize Babe
I don't think I have ever criticized "Babe" as a song. As a turning point in the direction of Styx, maybe...But, not the song itself.
criticize Dennis's orchestra shows
Why not? At least I saw one. How many times have the froy's of this forum critiqued Styx - WITHOUT EVEN SEEING A SHOW? I also don't constantly harp on the subject like the anti-Styx people do.
but if one DARES to criticize the current Styx line-up, JY's cringe inducing voice (ooh there's that word again!), or the current line-up's hypocrissy, then you are immediately disparaged.
Not immediately...but, if that is all a person is here for, why not? It's pretty shitty to come to a forum and do nothing but whine and complain about something you don't like. I believe it detracts from the forum and makes EVERYBODY a little less happy.
Dennis gets hammered for saying a very true statement in that Brave New World was an album of missed opportunities
I don't think I ever did that. Show me the post and quote it.
and then the same people that hammer Dennis excuse JY for saying that DeYoung's songs make him cringe
Yeah, so? Get over it. If that's how JY feels, fine. Why sould you opinion of his feelings be a reason for not speaking them?
The argument against Dennis was "how can he be so cruel as to disparage the group and what they created".
I don't remember me saying that either. Show me the post and quote it.
My argument "against" Dennis is that his solo shows are boring for me, and Styx shows aren't. That's really the bottom line for me.
And considering the fact that between radio, albums, singles, videos etc. Babe, et al have been heard at least 10 million times verses the 20,000 times that the songs on Brave New World have been heard (estimating 4 times each by the 5,000 people that actually bought the album), then you have JY criticizing a substantial more relevent body of Styx work to the general public.
So what? Dennis critiqued songs off of BNW. Did you freak out over that? Probably not - because you agree with him, and they are not 'his' songs.
Well, it's the same situation. They are still Styx songs...JY doesn't like some, and neither does Dennis. I'm sure the rest of the band has songs they dont like too. Who cares? It's just their opinion...enjoy what you like...but complaining that others, including the band, don't like the same thing is really kinda pointless.