10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

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10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby Zan » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:57 pm

Here are mine:


Great Expectations
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
Boys Will Be Boys (yip yip yip yip yip bom bom)
First Time
Carrie Ann
Esmerelda ;-)
King of Fools
High Time (even tho I like the music)
Fire (Hendrix cover - horrendous)
Babe
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby froy » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:08 pm

[quote][quote="Zan"][b][color=magenta]Here are mine:



Esmerelda ;-)



Hey Hey I wake up to this ?

I think Show Me The way Accapella is number 1 IMO
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby Zan » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:24 pm

froy wrote:
Zan wrote:Here are mine:



Esmerelda ;-)



Hey Hey I wake up to this ?

I think Show Me The way Accapella is number 1 IMO



I was only allowed 10, and Show Me The Way is a good song in general. LOL
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:32 am

Dennis can do no wrong. There are no bad songs that he has written or sang on!
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:36 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Dennis can do no wrong. There are no bad songs that he has written or sang on!


Oh come on ... be objective. I like all the guys, but I can find songs for each that really are just not good.

I think DDY is the most consistent overall, but High Crimes and Misdemeanors is a bad Styx song, but typical DDY solo song (and not his best).
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby AnnieOprah » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:38 am

Zan wrote:Here are mine:


Great Expectations
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
Boys Will Be Boys (yip yip yip yip yip bom bom)
First Time
Carrie Ann
Esmerelda ;-)
King of Fools
High Time (even tho I like the music)
Fire (Hendrix cover - horrendous)
Babe


To add to the list...

Hey Everybody Its Music Time!!
Fire
Person To Person I'm Calling Sendin' my Love Across The Line...
Hip Hop Hip Hop Cracy Hip Hop Hip Hop HIP HOP HIP HOP
Lonely Child (blatant rip off of Lady)
The Message
My God Can Beat Up Your God...
Call Me (zzzzzzzzzz)
Who Shot Daddy (Its up to you now...just say no!!! - Way to use Nancy Reagan's anti-drug slogan)
The song on the Broadway album that goes "now I'm where I want to be who I want to be doing all the things I want to do..."
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby AnnieOprah » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:39 am

froy wrote:
Zan wrote:[b][color=magenta]Here are mine:



Esmerelda ;-)



Hey Hey I wake up to this ?

I think Show Me The way Accapella is number 1 IMO

What about Show Me The Way Gulf War version?? "I want my daddy to come home!!!!"
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby StyxCollector » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:40 am

AnnieOprah wrote:What about Show Me The Way Gulf War version?? "I want my daddy to come home!!!!"


DDY had nothing to do with making that version, a DJ dubbed it on after. So you have to give DDY a pass on that one.
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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby Zan » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:13 am

AnnieOprah wrote:
Zan wrote:Here are mine:


Great Expectations
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
Boys Will Be Boys (yip yip yip yip yip bom bom)
First Time
Carrie Ann
Esmerelda ;-)
King of Fools
High Time (even tho I like the music)
Fire (Hendrix cover - horrendous)
Babe


To add to the list...

My God Can Beat Up Your God...
Who Shot Daddy (Its up to you now...just say no!!! - Way to use Nancy Reagan's anti-drug slogan)
The song on the Broadway album that goes "now I'm where I want to be who I want to be doing all the things I want to do..."



"OMG," How could I forget "My God?" What an autrocity. Who says Denny can't rock??? Um, that song does. A lot.

Who Shot daddy is pretty pathetic too, but I used to work out to Boomchild, so I don't have any bad feelings towards it either way. I'm surprised that "Harry's Hands" hasn't made any "best of" lists here yet. personally, I've never liked the song much myrically, but I thought it was a favorite among DeYoungians.

The broadway/circus-y song you're talking about is "Where I Want to Be," and yeah, it dost sucketh.

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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:29 am

AnnieOprah wrote:To add to the list...

Hey Everybody Its Music Time!!
Fire
Person To Person I'm Calling Sendin' my Love Across The Line...
Hip Hop Hip Hop Cracy Hip Hop Hip Hop HIP HOP HIP HOP
Lonely Child (blatant rip off of Lady)
The Message
My God Can Beat Up Your God...
Call Me (zzzzzzzzzz)
Who Shot Daddy (Its up to you now...just say no!!! - Way to use Nancy Reagan's anti-drug slogan)



See, I like a lot of these songs (I do agree that some aren't my favorite either) but c'mon you gotta love the lyrics to "Who Shot Daddy?": "Blow all your money, blow on your face. You sure look glamourous child, what a waste" :lol:



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Re: 10 worst DDY lead songs of all time

Postby AnnieOprah » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:00 am

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"Who Shot daddy is pretty pathetic too, but I used to work out to Boomchild, so I don't have any bad feelings towards it either way.

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Work out to Boomchild? Well, I guess that is better than "makin' whoppee" to Boomchild, which I have to admit I sadly did on one occasion !!! (well at least it was playing in the background). Makes "Doo Doo Doo Doo Shoom Bamb Bo-ray" lyric pretty appropro...
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:40 pm

StyxCollector wrote:
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Dennis can do no wrong. There are no bad songs that he has written or sang on!


Oh come on ... be objective. I like all the guys, but I can find songs for each that really are just not good.

I think DDY is the most consistent overall, but High Crimes and Misdemeanors is a bad Styx song, but typical DDY solo song (and not his best).


Fine, you're right. There are a couple of songs written by Dennis that I pass up when I'm listening to cd's.
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Harry Hands

Postby BlackWall » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:51 am

To comment on "Harry's Hands", I respect the fact that Dennis wanted to write a tribute to his dad, but it's not one of my personal favorites.. It's been a while since I've listened to it, but the line "cause Ameri CAN".. sticks out, and I still cringe..

I'm honestly not crazy about most of his solo material that appears on "Ultimate Collection", outside of the singles, but "Harry's Hands" and "Dear Darlin'" stick out as some of the worst. "Boomchild" has some pretty insightful lyrics, set to some really annoying, but catchy, '80s music.

As for Styx.. "High Crimes", "High Time", "First Time", "This Old Man", "Jennifer"(not a very good song, but for some reason, I kind of enjoy it), "Lonely Child"(the prequel to "Jennifer"??)
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Re: Harry Hands

Postby froy » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:03 am

"This Old Man",


Great song


"Jennifer"


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Re: Harry Hands

Postby styxfanNH » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:19 am

froy wrote:
"This Old Man",


Great song


"Jennifer"


And again


Froy, I totally agree with you on this. Both are great songs. The vocal arrangement in particular on Jennifer is one of my favorites.
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:00 am

Great Expectations
Music Time
High Time
Grove of Engaltine
Don't Let it End (reprise)

Jennifer
Earl of Roseland
Christoper, Mr Christopher
Carrie Ann
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Postby ChrisnStyx » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:58 pm

Carrie Ann (Yuk yuk yuk yuk you seem to want the world to think you are a dirty dirty man)
Carrie Ann
Hip Hop (OK sure I'll bop along if I'm alone but I'd never ever let anyone else hear it)
Carrie Ann (I dunno, this one just rubs me the wrong way.)
Fallen Angel (it makes me sad - autobiographical?)
Carrie Ann
Dear Darlin
Carrie Ann (Hey isn't that his daughter's name? But it's a love song? Ewww!)
Hip Hop

AND.........

the worst song DDY ever wrote, and the one question WHY I would demand an answer to should I ever get him alone in a room.......

Carrie Ann.



That's it. I honestly find things to love in every other song he wrote. These, oy.

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Postby Jodes » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:56 pm

So Chris.. tell us how you feel about Carrie Ann? lol


For me there's a few DDY tunes I can't get into:

Hip Hop
Music Time
First Time (BLECH)
My God
The whole "Yes/No" part of Borrowed Time

To be honest, I don't mind Dennis doing the Accapella version of show me the way, just as long as that Mike Eldred guys stays the hell away from it!

I can't stand his voice.. to me he sounds like the guy that intro's Mighty Mouse "HERE I COME TO SAAAAVVVEEE THE DAYYYYYYY" honestly.. watch a might mouse cartoon and put on DDY's live CD. The guy is TERRIBLE!

He completely ruined the 1st Orchestra show video I saw from Feb of 2000.

Let him sing someone else's music, but NOT Dennis's!
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Postby Abitaman » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:08 pm

Mike wasn't at the NAshville show a few weeks ago. They had some new guy from CA with them. Don't know if it was a one time thing or not-ERIC
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Postby Zan » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:14 pm

ChrisnStyx wrote:Carrie Ann (Yuk yuk yuk yuk you seem to want the world to think you are a dirty dirty man)
Carrie Ann
Hip Hop (OK sure I'll bop along if I'm alone but I'd never ever let anyone else hear it)
Carrie Ann (I dunno, this one just rubs me the wrong way.)
Fallen Angel (it makes me sad - autobiographical?)
Carrie Ann
Dear Darlin
Carrie Ann (Hey isn't that his daughter's name? But it's a love song? Ewww!)
Hip Hop

AND.........

the worst song DDY ever wrote, and the one question WHY I would demand an answer to should I ever get him alone in a room.......

Carrie Ann.

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What are you implying here, Chris? Are you suggesting that Dennis is actually having sex with his daughter? You are SICK and need help. Your actions are pathetic. ;-)
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Postby stabbim » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:19 pm

Zan wrote:
Great Expectations


I think that's his best since "Show Me The Way," (well, technically that distinction would go to "While There's Still Time," if we're talking about the non-BNW version.) Nice little groove, good to see him exploring some darker -- possibly autobiographical -- territory. Get Dziallo out of there and it's nigh-classic, IMO.

AnnieOprah wrote:Hey Everybody Its Music Time!!


An extremely guilty pleasure, but I still dig this one, mega-cheese and all.

AnnieOprah wrote:Call Me (zzzzzzzzzz)


I like the sax intro. Seems like half a song to me, though. Doesn't go anywhere.

AnnieOprah wrote:The song on the Broadway album that goes "now I'm where I want to be who I want to be doing all the things I want to do..."


I like the original, and most of Chess for that matter. I dislike what DDY did to it, and most of 10 On Broadway, for that matter.

BlackWall wrote:To comment on "Harry's Hands", I respect the fact that Dennis wanted to write a tribute to his dad, but it's not one of my personal favorites.. It's been a while since I've listened to it, but the line "cause Ameri CAN".. sticks out, and I still cringe..


I remember liking it very much at the time it came out, because it had a comfortingly proto-Styx arrangement. Still like bits of it. Yeah, "Ameri-CAN" is icky, but he's penned worse lyrics. Speaking of similar paeans, I have never liked "Goodbye To Roseland." Not even a little bit. And the more folks try to get me to like it by explaining what great meaning it has for the writer, the more I dig my heels in. Don't care. It's the blandest of the bland.

BlackWall wrote:"Jennifer"(not a very good song, but for some reason, I kind of enjoy it)


Cool music, especially the last 90 seconds or so. Horrifying lyrics (give me back "Ameri-CAN." )

In fact, a common gripe with the DDY songs that I don't care for -- other than the usual suspects ;) -- is good music sullied by bad lyrics: Fallen Angel, Lorelei, Grove Of Eglantine, Lords Of The Ring, most of his solo work. Sometimes the music is good enough to make up for it, sometimes not so much.
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Postby Zan » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:47 pm

stabbim wrote:In fact, a common gripe with the DDY songs that I don't care for -- other than the usual suspects ;) -- is good music sullied by bad lyrics: Fallen Angel, Lorelei, Grove Of Eglantine, Lords Of The Ring, most of his solo work. Sometimes the music is good enough to make up for it, sometimes not so much.



YES. My biggest gripe about Dennis' music has always been his lyrics. The music has rarely been an issue, IMO - he's written some dynamite pieces of music. Sometimes, he's come up with some inspiring, albeit overly simplified, words, but usually, it's leaves me kinda...cringing. lol (there's that word again, & no, that's not a dig per se, it's just an honest ongoing opinion).
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Postby AnnieOprah » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:43 am

Zan wrote:
stabbim wrote:In fact, a common gripe with the DDY songs that I don't care for -- other than the usual suspects ;) -- is good music sullied by bad lyrics: Fallen Angel, Lorelei, Grove Of Eglantine, Lords Of The Ring, most of his solo work. Sometimes the music is good enough to make up for it, sometimes not so much.



YES. My biggest gripe about Dennis' music has always been his lyrics. The music has rarely been an issue, IMO - he's written some dynamite pieces of music. Sometimes, he's come up with some inspiring, albeit overly simplified, words, but usually, it's leaves me kinda...cringing. lol (there's that word again, & no, that's not a dig per se, it's just an honest ongoing opinion).



I would say that you are definitely on to something there. Lyrics with Dennis are a real hit or miss type of things. Some just make me melt "The waiter poured our memories into tiny cups..." and "I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memories, some happy, some sad, I think of childhood friends, and the dreams we had..." are just brilliant...

Others, however, are cringe inducing. "Hello God" had serious potential, but then you get stuff like this "Hello God, I don't mean no disrespect, but I thought I'd call collect in case you answer". The rhyme is terrible. The sentiment is trying to be funny in a serious song... Word of advice to Dennis - your best work is when you subdue your sense of humor and write lyrics that touch us in some way - Come Sail Away, Show Me The Way, Pieces of Eight, Desert Moon, Best of Times...what do all of these have in common? They don't try to be funny - They don't try to be cute. They stay on a serious topic and explore it.

Humor, in my opinion, is hard to pull off in music.
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Postby DerriD » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:58 am

AnnieOprah wrote:Humor, in my opinion, is hard to pull off in music.


I would say humor in music is often there by accident. The late great Eazy E had lyrics, that to him I'm sure were very deep, but to me are timeless friggin' classics.

"She is bad
nobody is badder,
but she got more crabs
than a seafood platter"

Brilliant :D
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Postby stabbim » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:30 am

AnnieOprah wrote:Word of advice to Dennis - your best work is when you subdue your sense of humor and write lyrics that touch us in some way - Come Sail Away, Show Me The Way, Pieces of Eight, Desert Moon, Best of Times...what do all of these have in common? They don't try to be funny - They don't try to be cute. They stay on a serious topic and explore it.

Humor, in my opinion, is hard to pull off in music.


Agreed, for the most part.

Humor is hard enough to pull off in general. In music, doubly so. But the real problem comes when you're mixing it in with otherwise serious stuff and your audience isn't receptive to that. Then again, he's written plenty of "touching" lyrics that I find loathsome too, so...

It depends on the song. Take "High Crimes & Misdemeanors" ...no, really, take it. ;) As opposed to the lyrics bringing the music down, IMO there's some good quirky wordplay going on in the verses & bridge, ruined by a single bad line (you know the one) and the musical approach.
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Postby Zan » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:38 am

stabbim wrote:Humor is hard enough to pull off in life. In music, doubly so. But the real problem comes when you're mixing it in with otherwise serious stuff and your audience isn't receptive to that. Then again, he's written plenty of "touching" lyrics that I find loathsome too, so...

It depends on the song. Take "High Crimes & Misdemeanors" ...no, really, take it. ;) As opposed to the lyrics bringing the music down, IMO there's some good quirky wordplay going on in the verses & bridge, ruined by a single bad line (you know the one) and the musical approach.



Yes, yes, and yes again. A lot of Dennis' more touching lyrics, to me, just seemed forced or cliche, which to me, ruins the sentimental message the song is trying to portray. Take Grand Illusion, a GREAT song, lyrically and musically, IMO. Then take Fallen Angel, to ME, they are basically the SAME song with different lyrics and melodies. same message, same story, only FA is very cliche and what I consider to be "too obvious," not to mention done before (by him, no less), so the message loses its punch. This Old man, and Harry's Hands are very much the same, only Harry goes into greater detail. It does make me want to suggest to DeYoung that perhaps he broaden his horizons when it comes to song material.

"Hip-hop" does ruin what could otherwise be a decent song, IMO. It's a catchy tune if you can get past the train wreck in the middle.
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Postby yogi » Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:08 am

Zan,

Why do you beat a doberman pincher at the end of your posts ????

What do you have against dobermans?????
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Postby Liz22562 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:19 am

Hey Yogi, she'd be 'floggin a dead horse'..... :D :D
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Postby yogi » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:01 am

I could grasp the concept if it was a horse.

She is beating a dead or injured dog. It is either a Doberman( which I think it is) or a Great Dane. It is NOT a horse!!

Whats with that????? Has she been biten often or what???
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Postby Liz22562 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:05 am

Hi Yogi,

Look closely at the pic...it is a dead horse laying on its side, getting flogged....not a dog (lol). She saw that NealIsGod was using it once and 'borrowed' the idea.

I promise she's not beating a dog!
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