This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

[Glenn]

Well it ain't with JSS! Nothing distinctive AT ALL. I guess the music scene has become so dismal, adequate is worthy of a five star review.

Are you kidding?

[conversationpc]

I remember talking with a few program directors back when Arrival came out. They all said pretty much the same thing. "Yeah we listened to it, but it aint Perry" "It's a clone" etc .....

What always got me was how the Perryheads would say that Augeri sounded just like Perry or was a Perry clone or something to that effect. Then, in the next breath, they would be saying how awful he sounded. How can you sound awful and just like Perry at the same time? If Perry sounded so wonderful, how could you sound awful and "just like Perry" at the same time? You can't. They were just jealous at the time.

Another thing JSS brings to the table is an international audience.

Perhaps Journey can capitalize on this. JSS is much more popular in Europe and I'm sure they could do very well there, perhaps even as a headliner.

[Eric]

Monker, a lot of people here don't like me, and some even hate me, but some DO like me...

I have not seen ONE person who likes you.

You have ZERO cred......Zero.

At least I report the truth.

I like Monker. He has been a reliable poster on Journey topics for my 10 years on Journey boards.....

[Liz22562]

I, too, have no problem with what Monker posts. When an actual debate is going on he brings up valid points. What would some of you like him to bring to the forum? A new topic? That's a joke. Seems all you read here any more is Augeri bashing or people sucking up to JSS because they know he reads through these forums.

Monker has as much right to post what he wants as anyone else does. Since it seems to be a free-for-all on here, what does it really matter?

~Have a great day and peace to all~

[conversationpc]

I, too, have no problem with what Monker posts. When an actual debate is going on he brings up valid points.

Well, I don't necessarily agree with everything he says. We certainly differ politically from those kinds of discussions we've had in the past but I agree with a lot of what he says about Journey, other than this Tapegate stuff.

[NoMoreTails]

With a New singer, a singer who can flatout bring it, I will now say this....

Journey CAN make waves now..

I love this lineup. THIS lineup is the shit.

Deano,
You once said that Jon didn't want JSS in the band...taking over..."dirty" lyrics...how do you see the chemistry now? Is Jon wholeheartedly behind JSS?

[Rockindeano]

With a New singer, a singer who can flatout bring it, I will now say this....

Journey CAN make waves now..

I love this lineup. THIS lineup is the shit.

Deano,
You once said that Jon didn't want JSS in the band...taking over..."dirty" lyrics...how do you see the chemistry now? Is Jon wholeheartedly behind JSS?

Good question.....

What if you were thirsty and all you had was Diet Ginger Ale..then you got so fuckin thirsty you had to drink it or die...then you started liking it....a lot. Then you became all happy and shit...."Hey, Diet Ginger Ale isn't bad, in fact, it kicks my ass!"

Analogy for ya.

[FormerJrnyFan]

Damn, I love wild rides

Oh my!

Oh, get an av

[fred_journeyman]

I like Monker. He has been a reliable poster on Journey topics for my 10 years on Journey boards.....

What I like most about Monker is his consistency. I've learned quite a bit from his posts over the years and he doesn't have to throw crap around to get his point across. Even when he and I were complete opposite sides of the fence (the days when I was pretty much Perry only), he often made sense to me.

I know some people think that Monker thinks he's god, but I don't get that impression from him. He simply states what he wants to state and moves on. Take it or leave it; he doesn't care.

[Rockindeano]

I like Monker. He has been a reliable poster on Journey topics for my 10 years on Journey boards.....

What I like most about Monker is his consistency. I've learned quite a bit from his posts over the years and he doesn't have to throw crap around to get his point across. Even when he and I were complete opposite sides of the fence (the days when I was pretty much Perry only), he often made sense to me.

I know some people think that Monker thinks he's god, but I don't get that impression from him. He simply states what he wants to state and moves on. Take it or leave it; he doesn't care.

He? You mean, She.

[McNeil]

Does anyone know the gender of Monker ffs ???

[Monker]

What if you were thirsty and all you had was Diet Ginger Ale..then you got so fuckin thirsty you had to drink it or die...then you started liking it....a lot. Then you became all happy and shit...."Hey, Diet Ginger Ale isn't bad, in fact, it kicks my ass!"

Analogy for ya.

What kind of crap is that? I spose if a person drinks their own piss enough, they'll like that too? Is that what Journey is hoping for this time around, that no matter what it sounds like that people will buy into it? What a bunch of crap.

IMO, what Jonathan thinks doesn't matter. He doesn't seem much into writing new songs anymore anyway. Who cares? He contributed to EVERY song from Escape thru ROR...Now he hardly contrubes at all.

[Monker]

I like Monker. He has been a reliable poster on Journey topics for my 10 years on Journey boards.....

What I like most about Monker is his consistency. I've learned quite a bit from his posts over the years and he doesn't have to throw crap around to get his point across. Even when he and I were complete opposite sides of the fence (the days when I was pretty much Perry only), he often made sense to me.

I know some people think that Monker thinks he's god, but I don't get that impression from him. He simply states what he wants to state and moves on. Take it or leave it; he doesn't care.

He? You mean, She.

To you, anything is a she. You'd fuck a watermelon if it had a hole in it. Why don't you start posting about Journey and get off the he/she that only you care about?

[heardonthestreet]

I like Monker. He has been a reliable poster on Journey topics for my 10 years on Journey boards.....

What I like most about Monker is his consistency. I've learned quite a bit from his posts over the years and he doesn't have to throw crap around to get his point across. Even when he and I were complete opposite sides of the fence (the days when I was pretty much Perry only), he often made sense to me.

I know some people think that Monker thinks he's god, but I don't get that impression from him. He simply states what he wants to state and moves on. Take it or leave it; he doesn't care.

He? You mean, She.

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You should know Dean, that most everyone has a grudging respect for Monker. He has forgotten more than you will ever know about Journey. We may all disagree with him at times but he will always be more a part of all these message boards than you will ever be.

Andrew owes Monker an apology for referring to him as a troll. He is the last person that any Journey fan will call a troll.

[Saint John]

What if you were thirsty and all you had was Diet Ginger Ale..then you got so fuckin thirsty you had to drink it or die...then you started liking it....a lot. Then you became all happy and shit...."Hey, Diet Ginger Ale isn't bad, in fact, it kicks my ass!"

Analogy for ya.

What kind of crap is that? I spose if a person drinks their own piss enough, they'll like that too? Is that what Journey is hoping for this time around, that no matter what it sounds like that people will buy into it? What a bunch of crap.

IMO, what Jonathan thinks doesn't matter. He doesn't seem much into writing new songs anymore anyway. Who cares? He contributed to EVERY song from Escape thru ROR...Now he hardly contrubes at all.

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

[A Fire Inside]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

[ArnelRox]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

Didn't Deano say at one point that he was on his way out? Or has that tack changed now? Deano, calling Deano...

[Saint John]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

Duh...that's easy. To tour and make millions of dollars. And by the way, it was a question.

[Rockindeano]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

Didn't Deano say at one point that he was on his way out? Or has that tack changed now? Deano, calling Deano...

NEVER said that...

[A Fire Inside]

Duh...that's easy. To tour and make millions of dollars. And by the way, it was a question.

Then that's just sad. He's perpetuating something he doesn't at all believe in, if so, and being greedy all the way.

[ArnelRox]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

Didn't Deano say at one point that he was on his way out? Or has that tack changed now? Deano, calling Deano...

NEVER said that...

Ok but u said something was cooking w/Friga & it would be huge & happen after this tour, rite?

[Monker]

Good point here. There seemed to be some excitement when they wrote Arrival. Maybe becos they still had a label tho?

CORRECT. Arrival got a lift from a LOT of things, a label, the DVD, the BTM, the videos, the DTV concert, tours prior to the release. I even heard "HIgher Place" on the radio. Nothing like that will happen for Journey ever again - no matter who is singing. Has Journey even shown INTEREST in a label? They can't get a DVD released, it seems...why would JSS singing change that? A BTM part 2? You think Perry would allow that, and what would they have to give up for it?

Red13 was a chance they took which didn't fly.

I don't think it was a 'chance' as much as an experiment to see what it takes to release albums on their own. It seems there was a lot more on the distribution side of things then what they expected...and the totaly avoided that with Generations. THIS is a HUGE reason why I never expect a Journey album to sell even as well as Arrival.

Generations, I dont know what that was supposed to be really.

Why shouldn't it be exactly what it was said to be? Augeri working on solo stuff cuz he was tired of waiting for Journey to put together an album...Neal heard it, and decided to pull Journey together again...Especialy since Soul SirkUS failed to make ANY waves in the US.

But I think the toll of Augeri's vocal issues wore on them. Maybe w/out that issue, they can focus on writing. And JSS can write so it brings new energy.

True, and if JSS is the new singer for the next album, they'll probably have an album out next year. But, I doubt it will be on a label. SS couldn't get a label, why would Journey?

[Monker]

Monker has as much right to post what he wants as anyone else does. Since it seems to be a free-for-all on here, what does it really matter?

CORRECT. I'm tired of holding back while NOBODY else does.

[ArnelRox]

True, and if JSS is the new singer for the next album, they'll probably have an album out next year. But, I doubt it will be on a label. SS couldn't get a label, why would Journey?

Very good point here Monker. Journey won't get a label again. They won't have a Top 100 hit again either. Not even on the A/C charts. Anyone who thinks they will is dreaming.

[Monker]

Andrew owes Monker an apology for referring to him as a troll. He is the last person that any Journey fan will call a troll.

No he doesn't. He has a frustrating job and I'm not making it any easier.

[Monker]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

No. He specificaly stated that Napster and what happened with Arrival killed his enthusiasm for writing. Why should he put his heart and soul into something, package it up for purchase, and then have all that hard work bypassed when it is available for download on the internet? He has specificaly stated that in interviews...and it makes sense to me.

But, if there IS a new album, I'm sure tune will change when the propaganda hits the fan and he'll start saying how"blah, blah, blah" has sparked some new inspiration...just as he did when he started interviewing for Generations.

[Saint John]

True, and if JSS is the new singer for the next album, they'll probably have an album out next year. But, I doubt it will be on a label. SS couldn't get a label, why would Journey?

Very good point here Monker. Journey won't get a label again. They won't have a Top 100 hit again either. Not even on the A/C charts. Anyone who thinks they will is dreaming.

Gotta disagree. If Journey could do a ballad ala "If This Is The End" I could see it charting on the A/C charts. If they really put 100% into an album I could see an A/C charting ballad or two.

[Monker]

Could it be that he feels without the "Golden Goose" (Perry) it's a moot point? He co-wrote their biggest hits and like you pointed out, doesn't right shit anymore.

Then why's he still in the freakin' band?

I spose he gets a bigger paycheck then when he's solo. Wonder what would happen if he joined up with John Waite again though...could be interesting, at least.

[Monker]

Duh...that's easy. To tour and make millions of dollars. And by the way, it was a question.

Then that's just sad. He's perpetuating something he doesn't at all believe in, if so, and being greedy all the way.

True...But, if you were in his position, I'd bet you'd do the same thing.

[A Fire Inside]

Hard to say, I've never been in a band.