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Postby Zan » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:42 pm

bugsymalone wrote:
Zan wrote:Wow. Replace "Tommy" with "[random melodic rock forum user of your choice]," and " the band" with "this community" and see how eerie it is.


OK. I will try: Now that Zan is somewhat rutted in this community, (s) he seems to have stagnated.

Yeah. That works.




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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:56 am

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Thanks, Bugs. Ever the diplomat, as always! :lol:


As are you. :wink: :)

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Postby Zan » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:38 am

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Zan wrote:Thanks, Bugs. Ever the diplomat, as always! :lol:


As are you. :wink: :)



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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:42 am

Zan wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
Zan wrote:Thanks, Bugs. Ever the diplomat, as always! :lol:


As are you. :wink: :)



It's a natural talent.


We're just so dang special! :D :P

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Postby Zan » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:43 am

bugsymalone wrote:We're just so dang special! :D :P




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Re: New DDY CD

Postby kansas666 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:42 am

ChicagoSTYX wrote:How are the big DDY tour plans coming along? I'm sure with that new "Rock'n" Cd on the way????? he will be the main event!! :lol:


Denny will be fourth on the bill July 19 at Rockfest in Cadott WI, behind Boston, Deep Purple and Mick Fleetwood.
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Re: New DDY CD

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:48 am

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ChicagoSTYX wrote:How are the big DDY tour plans coming along? I'm sure with that new "Rock'n" Cd on the way????? he will be the main event!! :lol:


Denny will be fourth on the bill July 19 at Rockfest in Cadott WI, behind Boston, Deep Purple and Mick Fleetwood.


I do remember hearing that. He is the opening act on the opening day. Also known as the sound check act. I think he goes on at 4pm on a Thursday.
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Re: New DDY CD

Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:59 am

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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:04 am

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brywool wrote:Cindy Brady: "I Know a Thee-Cret, I know a Thee-Cret"

I get SO tired of these people that act like they know what's going on when nobody does. Nobody knows what Dennis' album's going to sound like. There's no way at this point that any can say "Ooh, it's going to be the biggest rock record in the world". The fact that the same thing gets repeated by the same people is so silly. If you don't know, don't act like you do... OR put what you know on the table OR shut the heck up.


I know Suite has heard part of it - even if it was over the phone. I don't think anyone these days is going to have "the biggest rock record in the world" the way we used to know them to be (a la Metallica's black album, etc.). Those days are over. That is fanboyism at its best hoping that your favorite band's new release is going to be the best ever.


I did hear a few songs. I know I hear music different than most people - LOL One song sounded to me like the old Styx of the Wooden Nickel days mixed with a little of today's music, I loved it!
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Postby cittadeeno23 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:27 am

Hi Suite, I'm kind of new here. Excuse me for not reading through all the posts and finding out about everyone and what they do or if they know the band, but how did you get to hear some of Dennis' new songs?

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Re: New DDY CD

Postby froy » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:29 am

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ChicagoSTYX wrote:
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I hope I'm one of those 3 people that will receive a dinner!! :D


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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:09 pm

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brywool wrote:Cindy Brady: "I Know a Thee-Cret, I know a Thee-Cret"

I get SO tired of these people that act like they know what's going on when nobody does. Nobody knows what Dennis' album's going to sound like. There's no way at this point that any can say "Ooh, it's going to be the biggest rock record in the world". The fact that the same thing gets repeated by the same people is so silly. If you don't know, don't act like you do... OR put what you know on the table OR shut the heck up.


I know Suite has heard part of it - even if it was over the phone. I don't think anyone these days is going to have "the biggest rock record in the world" the way we used to know them to be (a la Metallica's black album, etc.). Those days are over. That is fanboyism at its best hoping that your favorite band's new release is going to be the best ever.


I did hear a few songs. I know I hear music different than most people - LOL One song sounded to me like the old Styx of the Wooden Nickel days mixed with a little of today's music, I loved it!


And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!
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Postby Grotelul » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:50 pm

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SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
brywool wrote:Cindy Brady: "I Know a Thee-Cret, I know a Thee-Cret"

I get SO tired of these people that act like they know what's going on when nobody does. Nobody knows what Dennis' album's going to sound like. There's no way at this point that any can say "Ooh, it's going to be the biggest rock record in the world". The fact that the same thing gets repeated by the same people is so silly. If you don't know, don't act like you do... OR put what you know on the table OR shut the heck up.


I know Suite has heard part of it - even if it was over the phone. I don't think anyone these days is going to have "the biggest rock record in the world" the way we used to know them to be (a la Metallica's black album, etc.). Those days are over. That is fanboyism at its best hoping that your favorite band's new release is going to be the best ever.


I did hear a few songs. I know I hear music different than most people - LOL One song sounded to me like the old Styx of the Wooden Nickel days mixed with a little of today's music, I loved it!


And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!


And maybe those three guys could have done a little more stuff together and made everyone happy, including most of the fans.
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:39 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!


In my opinion, DDY thrives when he has competition. The other guys have said he doesn't rock (mainly JY), so it's probably more of a, "FU, I can not only still write a rocker, but I can sound more like Styx than you. Nanny Nanny boo boo!" While I'm jesting a little bit, I think the creative spark that DDY had has at least been lit again.

Compare that to Styx now - they're dry as a bone and waiting for Tommy to come up with something. We've only seen a handful of tracks since Cyclorama, none of which are very good (IMO).

Also remember that Styx post-1978 with DDY has been more like a dysfunctional working relationship. If you truly think they were the same band that sat around and wrote and demoed most of the albums through Po8, you're sadly mistaken. It's clear come Cornerstone that it was more individual contribution to songwriting than a band effort. From 1979 on, you can hear elements of the big three in most tunes, but you can clearly hear who dominated the songwriting and arranging in a specific song.
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Postby Rockwriter » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:07 am

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ChicagoSTYX wrote:And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!


In my opinion, DDY thrives when he has competition. The other guys have said he doesn't rock (mainly JY), so it's probably more of a, "FU, I can not only still write a rocker, but I can sound more like Styx than you. Nanny Nanny boo boo!" While I'm jesting a little bit, I think the creative spark that DDY had has at least been lit again.

Compare that to Styx now - they're dry as a bone and waiting for Tommy to come up with something. We've only seen a handful of tracks since Cyclorama, none of which are very good (IMO).

Also remember that Styx post-1978 with DDY has been more like a dysfunctional working relationship. If you truly think they were the same band that sat around and wrote and demoed most of the albums through Po8, you're sadly mistaken. It's clear come Cornerstone that it was more individual contribution to songwriting than a band effort. From 1979 on, you can hear elements of the big three in most tunes, but you can clearly hear who dominated the songwriting and arranging in a specific song.



I have to agree, I think the way things went down in 1999 wound up being good for Dennis in somewhat of a roundabout way. It's re-awakened a competitive instinct that had lain dormant for a while. Between 1984 and 1991 we saw only a handful of live dates from Dennis locally, mostly for charity. He was comfortable and although he went and did some albums, he wasn't exactly working his ass off to promote them. Since 1999 he has been slowly working his way back toward keeping a full schedule of dates, working his off days by advancing the shows with press and with hosting appearances for pledge drives on PBS, doing TV, and so on. A lot of that has been just so he can get back to having a high enough profile to release an album of all-new material and not watch it disappear without a trace.

If this forthcoming album is the rock album that people have been saying it is, I too would attribute that to Dennis reading his former bandmates' public remarks and then saying, "Oh yeah? Take THIS, bitches!" LOL. I guess we'll see. I would love for it to be a great record, just like I would love for the next Styx record to be great.


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Postby brywool » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:10 am

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And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!



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Postby stabbim » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:28 am

Rockwriter wrote:If this forthcoming album is the rock album that people have been saying it is, I too would attribute that to Dennis reading his former bandmates' public remarks and then saying, "Oh yeah? Take THIS, bitches!" LOL. I guess we'll see. I would love for it to be a great record, just like I would love for the next Styx record to be great.


I would certainly be pleasantly surprised if we get a legit rock record from DDY. His former bandmates have maintained not that he was incapable of making that kind of music anymore, but more disinterested, so the perceived competition between them could certainly help him return to that form, to whatever extent. Too bad it took the split to (potentially) make it happen, though.

StyxCollector wrote:Compare that to Styx now - they're dry as a bone and waiting for Tommy to come up with something. We've only seen a handful of tracks since Cyclorama, none of which are very good (IMO).


And even TS's contributions to Cyclorama are good but not great, for the most part. (also IMO) I can't help but wonder if he really has hit a cold streak. It would be a shame after how prolific he was in the 90s.
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Postby bugsymalone » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:48 am

I think this album will probably be a mix of styles and music and will likely please those who are inclined to like DDY's work in the first place.

I expect some first rate vocals and, hopefully, a decent mix, since it will be Dennis producing it and he has proved himself in the past.

I do not for one minute believe that those who cannot stand the guy anymore will like anything about the recording regardless of its quality.

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Postby styxfansite » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:56 am

I know it was all speculation at first, but is there any news on how much if any is Glen on this album?

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Postby StyxCollector » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:06 am

styxfansite wrote:I know it was all speculation at first, but is there any news on how much if any is Glen on this album?

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"All For Love" may be on there; I've heard nothing else more solid vis a vie Glen.
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Postby sadie65 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:02 pm

And the never ending circle jerk continues. Change the name to Styx, and the fans who "side" with Mr. DeYoung would make the same claims about how the band cannot live up to their expectations, doesn't make good music anymore, doesn't care about their fans.

Let's see...Dennis doesn't tour enough, Styx tours too much, Dennis doesn't rock and only cares about Broadway, Styx needs the money and has become a caricature of itself, Dennis has the blonde bimbo for a wife on stage, Tommy's wife is a school girl who cuts hair, Dennis didn't care and lied, the band didn't care and lied...and on and on and on.

And whenever Dennis releases this cd, just as when Styx released/releases theirs, these same fans will use their claims to bolster their opinions. Some will blindly love it, others will blindly hate it, some will be middle of the road, some will accept it, and some will love it.

Meanwhile, lost in much of this is the simple fact that each side is doing what they think is in their best interest and putting out something to be judged. I have to wonder why something released 10 years ago would "matter". No one associated with this band, past or present, is going to climb Mt. Everest in their careers anymore. To that end, whatever Mr. DeYoung's/Styx' motivations isn't it nice they are putting out anything at all?

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Postby Monker » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:25 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:And why didn't ddy do this when he was with Styx for EOC and BNW? Now all of the sudden he wants to sound like the old Styx again. He should have done that 10 years ago when it would have meant something!


I think that's obvious....

He was still in Hunchback mode.
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Postby yogi » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:11 pm

I liked Dennis's songs on Edge.

Nothing on Edge Of The Century was broadway sounding.
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Postby Zan » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:41 pm

yogi wrote:I liked Dennis's songs on Edge.

Nothing on Edge Of The Century was broadway sounding.




Back to Chicago was a little. My husband used to make fun of me for listening to it (I like that song) because he thought it sounded like a wannabe Broadway production.
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Postby ChicagoSTYX » Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:03 am

Still nothing?????????? No one seems to be talking about this "CD". What happened? :roll:
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Postby Zan » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:12 am

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Still nothing?????????? No one seems to be talking about this "CD". What happened? :roll:




Froy's been busy eating that big pile of crow from when he let his "special insider source" information leak out that Tommy had lost his voice forever.
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Postby Ash » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:14 am

Zan wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Still nothing?????????? No one seems to be talking about this "CD". What happened? :roll:


Froy's been busy eating that big pile of crow from when he let his "special insider source" information that Tommy had lost his voice forever.




The last I heard (and this was about 3-4 weeks ago) was that 6 tracks were completely finished and that the CD itself was due roughly in June... but I don't have anything more than that... and with everything going on with me, I've not had an opportunity to keep up.
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Postby Zan » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:58 am

Ash wrote:and with everything going on with me, I've not had an opportunity to keep up.




You mean you actually have...*gasp* a LIFE????
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Postby ManOfMiracles » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:03 am

Here's my thoughts (cuz I know you were all waiting...)

I think, one way or the other, DDY's new cd will be good. I agree with some past comments that if you like his stuff, you'll probably like the album, and if you don't you won't. It's doubtful to make any sweeping changes... but personal tastes aside, professionally speaking, it's likely to be a good album, and well-put together.

I also think, that regardless of, or even in spite of, the question of will it be the world's greatest prog-rock album (or whatever) ever recorded... well, even if that's true, it just doesn't matter. I'll love it. Some of you will. Many of his fans will. Some concert-goers will. But this CD will be for US. And for him... to prove a point or whatever. It could indeed be great... but we all know radios won't touch it. And without heavy radio support, the likelyhood of a huge smash-hit album is pretty much nothing. This does not in any way detract from quality. I have faith this is gonna be good. I hope I'm right. So it is far from a criticism of anything but the sign of the times when I say I'm not sure what kind of commercial success to expect. But ya know what? If Denis IS doing this for his fans, and for himself... that;s good enough for me. Sounds like the best motivation you can ask for. Me, I hope for at least just enough commercial success that makes him wanna keep doing it. I don't want to see him get the wind knocked out of his sails, ya know?

Those are my thoughts... now just hoping for the best! :)
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Postby ManOfMiracles » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:03 am

Here's my thoughts (cuz I know you were all waiting...)

I think, one way or the other, DDY's new cd will be good. I agree with some past comments that if you like his stuff, you'll probably like the album, and if you don't you won't. It's doubtful to make any sweeping changes... but personal tastes aside, professionally speaking, it's likely to be a good album, and well-put together.

I also think, that regardless of, or even in spite of, the question of will it be the world's greatest prog-rock album (or whatever) ever recorded... well, even if that's true, it just doesn't matter. I'll love it. Some of you will. Many of his fans will. Some concert-goers will. But this CD will be for US. And for him... to prove a point or whatever. It could indeed be great... but we all know radios won't touch it. And without heavy radio support, the likelyhood of a huge smash-hit album is pretty much nothing. This does not in any way discount the quality. I have faith this is gonna be good. I hope I'm right. So it is far from a criticism of anything but the sign of the times when I say I'm not sure what kind of commercial success to expect. But ya know what? If Denis IS doing this for his fans, and for himself... that;s good enough for me. Sounds like the best motivation you can ask for. Me, I hope for at least just enough commercial success that makes him wanna keep doing it. I don't want to see him get the wind knocked out of his sails, ya know?

Those are my thoughts... now just hoping for the best! :)
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