OT: Shaw and Blades

[Tomulator]

I used to love REO. Have all their albums, and I don't hate KC, BUT...He has grown way too fruity for my likes.

I am more pissed you said "Neal would fuck it up." How can that guy fuck anything up? The best fuckin player in the world. Check yourself, or blame the comment on you being Euro. That will explain it.

Hey Dean, pardon me but Clapton is the best player in the world, I didn't mean he'd fuck up, I'm pissed a little here in Euroland, he just wouldn't fit in with those guys

With all due respect, I don't think EC is better now that Schon. Schon can play more shit and different styles and genres than middle finger Eric.

I still don't get the "fuck it up" comment. Blades wrote on Arrival, Neal toured with Tommy...there is a genre connection here.

Uhhh...you're BOTH wrong.

Two words...Steve Lukather

And Beano...don't even go there. You know not what you speak of.

[Saint John]

I used to love REO. Have all their albums, and I don't hate KC, BUT...He has grown way too fruity for my likes.

I am more pissed you said "Neal would fuck it up." How can that guy fuck anything up? The best fuckin player in the world. Check yourself, or blame the comment on you being Euro. That will explain it.

Hey Dean, pardon me but Clapton is the best player in the world, I didn't mean he'd fuck up, I'm pissed a little here in Euroland, he just wouldn't fit in with those guys

With all due respect, I don't think EC is better now that Schon. Schon can play more shit and different styles and genres than middle finger Eric.

I still don't get the "fuck it up" comment. Blades wrote on Arrival, Neal toured with Tommy...there is a genre connection here.

Uhhh...you're BOTH wrong.

Two words...Steve Lukather

And Beano...don't even go there. You know not what you speak of.

Dude, your name is "Tomulator".... get the fuck outta here.

[Tomulator]

I used to love REO. Have all their albums, and I don't hate KC, BUT...He has grown way too fruity for my likes.

I am more pissed you said "Neal would fuck it up." How can that guy fuck anything up? The best fuckin player in the world. Check yourself, or blame the comment on you being Euro. That will explain it.

Hey Dean, pardon me but Clapton is the best player in the world, I didn't mean he'd fuck up, I'm pissed a little here in Euroland, he just wouldn't fit in with those guys

With all due respect, I don't think EC is better now that Schon. Schon can play more shit and different styles and genres than middle finger Eric.

I still don't get the "fuck it up" comment. Blades wrote on Arrival, Neal toured with Tommy...there is a genre connection here.

Uhhh...you're BOTH wrong.

Two words...Steve Lukather

And Beano...don't even go there. You know not what you speak of.

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Dude, your name is "Tomulator".... get the fuck outta here.

And you would be?

Oh...that's right...NOBODY.



Go Fuck yourself

[Rockindeano]

And Beano...don't even go there. You know not what you speak of.

Yeah you're right.

I was wrong with everything I ever spoke of about this band.

I was so totally wrong with Augeri Lipping too.

St John is right. "Tomulator?"
Ok dude. whatever YOU say.

I am always right about serious issues here.

Kiss my rotten shit stained underwear.

[Tomulator]

And Beano...don't even go there. You know not what you speak of.

Yeah you're right.

I was wrong with everything I ever spoke of about this band.

I was so totally wrong with Augeri Lipping too.

St John is right. "Tomulator?"
Ok dude. whatever YOU say.

I am always right about serious issues here.

Kiss my rotten shit stained underwear.

You got one thing correct Beano...I bet you do have rotten "shit stained" underwear.

[Tomulator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbFrYdQRCwI

Watch this and tell me there is a more versatile and better player out there than Luke.

Neal is awesome no doubt but,...c'mon.

[Rick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbFrYdQRCwI

Watch this and tell me there is a more versatile and better player out there than Luke.

Neal is awesome no doubt but,...c'mon.

Neal plays shit like that for breakfast. If Neal just sat down to jam like Steve did, he'd rip his ass up.

[Tomulator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViW ... ed&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

[Saint John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

[7 Wishes]

SL is a maestro, but Neal is the most versatile and gifted six-stringer who's still creating relevant music these days.

[AR]

Hey Dean!

Kiss - War Machine (Gene Simmons/Bryan Adams/Jim Vallance)

Kiss - Rock and Roll Hell (Gene Simmons/Bryan Adams/Jim Vallance)

Did you know of that writing team?

LOL, sure Ed. And not trying to demean Gene, but I have a tape of BA and Gene talking on a radio interview and Gene basically said BA and Jim did all the writing. He said something to the effect, "Bryan and Jim worked their asses off. I just sat there and added a word or two."

Pretty funny.

Oh, I agree.

Adams/Vallance's "War Machine" ended up being stolen by Stone Temple Pilots and was ripped off and re-recorded as "Sex Type Thing"

Just thought the BAdmas/Kiss connection was interesting.

[Rockindeano]

Intersting AR. There was talk of Badams Music going after them for theft. I do believe they settled.

[7 Wishes]

Stoned Temple Butt Pilots. That was Scooter Weiland's band. Shocker. That little shite.

[7 Wishes]

None of these guys can compete with Nena. Her incredible catalogue includes the following:

99 Luftballons
99 Red Balloons
99 Luftballons (live in Helsinki)
99 Luftballons (alternate version)
99 Luftballons (mega edit)
99 Luftballons (dance mix)
99 Red Balloons (VC version)
99 Red Balloons (radio edit)
99 Luftballons (live in Reykjavik)

[Tomulator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

I so disagree with you on this. I've been playing guitar for 26 years and I know a little about the instrument and what it takes to play certain things and certain styles. That being said, it is my INFORMED opinion that Luke is the more versatile, technically-savvy player of the two. AS great as NS is (and he is great, btw), he is not on par with Luke. It's just that simple.

Now, on to the more curious topic of asking you how it is you are so familiar with King Kong's asshole...does that kind of thing excite you?

[Tomulator]

SL is a maestro, but Neal is the most versatile and gifted six-stringer who's still creating relevant music these days.

I disagree.

Sorry.

[Rockindeano]

Interesting Tom, because I asked Lukather at a party what he thought of Neal. He said Neal was better than he was. No joking.

[Saint John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

I so disagree with you on this. I've been playing guitar for 26 years and I know a little about the instrument and what it takes to play certain things and certain styles. That being said, it is my INFORMED opinion that Luke is the more versatile, technically-savvy player of the two. AS great as NS is (and he is great, btw), he is not on par with Luke. It's just that simple.

Now, on to the more curious topic of asking you how it is you are so familiar with King Kong's asshole...does that kind of thing excite you?

When you see Steve playing at Six Flags tell him I said hi. I'll be watching Neal play to at least 7,000-10,000 people after they release their new album. If you're fast, you can beat Luke to the rollercoaster line. I heard it gets packed when him and his shitty band play there.

[Rockindeano]

Easy Big guy. I don't like Toto, but they are very gifted musicians, and Lukather is an incredible talent.

[Saint John]

Easy Big guy. I don't like Toto, but they are very gifted musicians, and Lukather is an incredible talent.

Take your knee pads off and youtube "Hold The Line" with Jeff singing. The best version ever. Soto is a fuckin' pimp. Toto? Please.

[ohsherrie]

How far back are we going here for the writing duos/trios? Cause I can think of quite a few from way back. Lennon/McCartney/Harrison for example. Just wondering how far back in music history we're going to go in this discussion.

Lennon and McCartney were part of a bullshit phenomenon when teenaged girls fell for guys with salad bowl haircuts. Their acid-induced ramblings DID produce a few lyrically profound songs. HOWEVER, they released a ton of material and the vast majority of it is mindless, comatose, wrist-slitting garbage. I'm glad that one-legged skank is going to take that creep to the cleaners. As for Lennon, while I do NOT condone his murder, that guy was an asshole for the last 20 years of his life. Fuck him, too.

Not Cool. John Lennon is a Fucking Legend and was a quality human being. Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you?

JOHN LENNON BROUGHT US so much!
Sir Paul is still bringing it.
THE BEATLES can never be stopped!

Yoko Ono stopped them very easily. She brainwashed her gullible drug-addict husband into believing her bullshit. THAT is a fact.

St J, you're really starting to piss me off here. Even though your last statement may be technically true, Lennon/McCartney is the melodic songwriting standard against which all others should be measured. Hell, they invented the genre. It has progressed and evolved a lot since their time, but when it comes to melodies and lyrics, Lennon/McCartney still set the standard.

[Tomulator]

Interesting Tom, because I asked Lukather at a party what he thought of Neal. He said Neal was better than he was. No joking.

If you know ANYTHING about Luke, you know that he is about the MOST HUMBLE musician on the planet. He NEVER draws attention to his talents...always gives the other guy the "glory". But, he is a total MONSTER on the instrument.

I bet if you asked NS who is better...he'd say Luke. That is type of guy BOTH of those two are.

My opinion stands as previously stated...as good as both of them are, Luke is better.

[NealIsGod]

Interesting Tom, because I asked Lukather at a party what he thought of Neal. He said Neal was better than he was. No joking.

If you know ANYTHING about Luke, you know that he is about the MOST HUMBLE musician on the planet. He NEVER draws attention to his talents...always gives the other guy the "glory". But, he is a total MONSTER on the instrument.

I bet if you asked NS who is better...he'd say Luke. That is type of guy BOTH of those two are.

We all know Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda can play circles around them both.

[Saint John]

How far back are we going here for the writing duos/trios? Cause I can think of quite a few from way back. Lennon/McCartney/Harrison for example. Just wondering how far back in music history we're going to go in this discussion.

Lennon and McCartney were part of a bullshit phenomenon when teenaged girls fell for guys with salad bowl haircuts. Their acid-induced ramblings DID produce a few lyrically profound songs. HOWEVER, they released a ton of material and the vast majority of it is mindless, comatose, wrist-slitting garbage. I'm glad that one-legged skank is going to take that creep to the cleaners. As for Lennon, while I do NOT condone his murder, that guy was an asshole for the last 20 years of his life. Fuck him, too.

Not Cool. John Lennon is a Fucking Legend and was a quality human being. Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you?

JOHN LENNON BROUGHT US so much!
Sir Paul is still bringing it.
THE BEATLES can never be stopped!

Yoko Ono stopped them very easily. She brainwashed her gullible drug-addict husband into believing her bullshit. THAT is a fact.

St J, you're really starting to piss me off here. Even though your last statement may be technically true, Lennon/McCartney is the melodic songwriting standard against which all others should be measured. Hell, they invented the genre. It has progressed and evolved a lot since their time, but when it comes to melodies and lyrics, Lennon/McCartney still set the standard.

And THAT is your opinion. Remember, we're arguing about subjective shit here, and I think Perry/Schon/Cain, either collectively, solo, or in any group of 2, blow their wandering acid ramblings away. Look at the Beatles lyrics in its totality. They have a lot of songs that make absolutely no fuckin' sense. Something that CAN'T be said for "my" song-writing team.

[Tomulator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

I so disagree with you on this. I've been playing guitar for 26 years and I know a little about the instrument and what it takes to play certain things and certain styles. That being said, it is my INFORMED opinion that Luke is the more versatile, technically-savvy player of the two. AS great as NS is (and he is great, btw), he is not on par with Luke. It's just that simple.

Now, on to the more curious topic of asking you how it is you are so familiar with King Kong's asshole...does that kind of thing excite you?

When you see Steve playing at Six Flags tell him I said hi. I'll be watching Neal play to at least 7,000-10,000 people after they release their new album. If you're fast, you can beat Luke to the rollercoaster line. I heard it gets packed when him and his shitty band play there.

You obviously have NO CLUE as to how big Toto is in Europe...MUCH bigger than Journey. Have been for years. That is fact.

Two different bands. Two different styles. Two different audiences for the most part.

BTW, 7,000-10,000 people is not that huge of an audience. I saw Toto this summer play for ~40,000 (maybe more) in Ohio on July 4th. They absolutely KILLED.

Now, let's talk about which guitarist has played on the most albums...wanna go there? Luke has been THE MAN for years on the studio scene, since the 70's. He has played on, helped produce, and written for more records for more different artists from more diverse musical genres than Neal could ever dream of. That also is fact. But you know what? You are way too close-minded and limp-dicked to even have this discussion with. It is a waste of my time.

Your arguments are weak (just like you I bet), poorly laid out, and have no "meat" to them (again, just like you I bet).

Sorry about your luck.

[Saint John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

I so disagree with you on this. I've been playing guitar for 26 years and I know a little about the instrument and what it takes to play certain things and certain styles. That being said, it is my INFORMED opinion that Luke is the more versatile, technically-savvy player of the two. AS great as NS is (and he is great, btw), he is not on par with Luke. It's just that simple.

Now, on to the more curious topic of asking you how it is you are so familiar with King Kong's asshole...does that kind of thing excite you?

When you see Steve playing at Six Flags tell him I said hi. I'll be watching Neal play to at least 7,000-10,000 people after they release their new album. If you're fast, you can beat Luke to the rollercoaster line. I heard it gets packed when him and his shitty band play there.

You obviously have NO CLUE as to how big Toto is in Europe...MUCH bigger than Journey. Have been for years. That is fact.

Two different bands. Two different styles. Two different audiences for the most part.

BTW, 7,000-10,000 people is not that huge of an audience. I saw Toto this summer play for ~40,000 (maybe more) in Ohio on July 4th. They absolutely KILLED.

Now, let's talk about which guitarist has played on the most albums...wanna go there? Luke has been THE MAN for years on the studio scene, since the 70's. He has played on, helped produce, and written for more records for more different artists from more diverse musical genres than Neal could ever dream of. That also is fact. But you know what? You are way too close-minded and limp-dicked to even have this discussion with. It is a waste of my time.

Your arguments are weak (just like you I bet), poorly laid out, and have no "meat" to them (again, just like you I bet).

Sorry about your luck.

I'll try to refute your idiocy. First of all, Neal founded a band that has moved, according to the most recent data, 92 million albums worldwide. Lukather is good, actually great, but his catalog is about as exciting as Walgreens' coupon section. As far as "genres" goes, Neal's style and creativity to a specific song, lyric, or sound is ABSOLUTELY unparalleled. Go to the Toto message board and slit your wrists. You'll be all alone....something I'm sure you're accustomed to.

[Rockindeano]

I bet if you asked NS who is better...he'd say Luke. That is type of guy BOTH of those two are.

Um no, they are not BOTH like that. Neal is very different than that. He will tell you face to face he is better than whomever he thinks he is. He is NOT humble.

[Rockindeano]

You are both wacked out of your skulls.

St John, you are a fucking blinded retard when you put down Lennon and McCartney. They are the standard to which every team is measured. hell, I proved to you last night "Your team" wasn't as good as Adams/Vallance and now you ignore that beat down and go for the fucking Beatles? Dude, check yourself.

Tom, you are higher than high. Luke is awesome, but to say he has been on more albums than neal? So? Neal has toured every year for 9 years, put out what, 5 solo records, had Soul Sirkus on the side...there simply is not enough more time for him to do anything else.

[Tomulator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKSHViWNHw&mode=related&search=

And in case you need ANOTHER example of why I think Luke is the premier player around today...

Dude, whipping your ass in arguments is actually less fun than picking dingleberries out of King Kong's asshole. You're a fuckin' tard. Take your Luke-lovin' ass elsewhere. He's good...no doubt, but he's NO Neal Schon.

I so disagree with you on this. I've been playing guitar for 26 years and I know a little about the instrument and what it takes to play certain things and certain styles. That being said, it is my INFORMED opinion that Luke is the more versatile, technically-savvy player of the two. AS great as NS is (and he is great, btw), he is not on par with Luke. It's just that simple.

Now, on to the more curious topic of asking you how it is you are so familiar with King Kong's asshole...does that kind of thing excite you?

When you see Steve playing at Six Flags tell him I said hi. I'll be watching Neal play to at least 7,000-10,000 people after they release their new album. If you're fast, you can beat Luke to the rollercoaster line. I heard it gets packed when him and his shitty band play there.

You obviously have NO CLUE as to how big Toto is in Europe...MUCH bigger than Journey. Have been for years. That is fact.

Two different bands. Two different styles. Two different audiences for the most part.

BTW, 7,000-10,000 people is not that huge of an audience. I saw Toto this summer play for ~40,000 (maybe more) in Ohio on July 4th. They absolutely KILLED.

Now, let's talk about which guitarist has played on the most albums...wanna go there? Luke has been THE MAN for years on the studio scene, since the 70's. He has played on, helped produce, and written for more records for more different artists from more diverse musical genres than Neal could ever dream of. That also is fact. But you know what? You are way too close-minded and limp-dicked to even have this discussion with. It is a waste of my time.

Your arguments are weak (just like you I bet), poorly laid out, and have no "meat" to them (again, just like you I bet).

Sorry about your luck.

I'll try to refute your idiocy. First of all, Neal founded a band that has moved, according to the most recent data, 92 million albums worldwide. Lukather is good, actually great, but his catalog is about as exciting as Walgreens' coupon section. As far as "genres" goes, Neal's style and creativity to a specific song, lyric, or sound is ABSOLUTELY unparalleled. Go to the Toto message board and slit your wrists. You'll be all alone....something I'm sure you're accustomed to.

Try to read this and actually comprehend what I am saying...

I don't respect you or your opinion. You have no knowledge with regards to the topic we are debating. You obviously are not a guitarist yourself or you would realize the lunacy of your ramblings. Do yourself a favor and avoid further embarassment by checking out the following link of Luke's Discography.

http://www.stevelukather.net/Discography.aspx

This will hopefully help you to dislodge your cranium from your rectal passage.

Neal is great...one of my all-time favs. He can rip like few others and has an INCREDIBLE tone (always has).

He is no Luke though.

[Tomulator]

Here is more for you all to digest.



http://www.stevelukather.net/Sessions.aspx