JC (Friga) Saint or Sinner - take no prisoners?

[Matthew]

Oh I see...respect for your credible inside source....

Read the rest of what I wrote above.

I did....and you resorted to citing responses I haven't actually made to an answer you haven't actually given.

[ArnelRox]

[Moon Beam]

9 pages on Jon Cain?, never thought I'd see that here.
Good reads folks, sorry to have interrupted, please continue..................

[ArnelRox]

[Moon Beam]

I like reading the back and forth thoughts, I have nothing constuctive to add though.
Pay me no mind, was just jumping in.

[ArnelRox]

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Good point Moonie. Time to end this thread.

Ah - that would be a no. Feel free to move on to something else, though!

[Red13JoePa]

Good point Moonie. Time to end this thread.

Which will be impossible if Matt posts again

[Moon Beam]

I feel for ya Matthew, your just getting no respect Fella.

Come on JoePa, you love these 9 page thread towers as much as anyone.

[mistiejourney]

Winds Of March, Opened The Door shit like those were syrupy.

Wow I don't get syrupy from those. Faithfully is pure syrup to me.

Is it blasphemous to say I can't stand any version of that song. Or Open Arms... err... I'm way more into the Rolie era.

Okay, you...uh...."opened the door" so I'm going to blaspheme myself right here and now: I cannot STAND "Open Arms"! Not by Perry, Augeri or Soto. No one. The song sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me.


I'm so ashamed....

[ArnelRox]

[conversationpc]

Thank God I am not alone. Faithfully & Open Arms are NOT quite the worst Journey songs but I really could care less if I ever heard them again as long as I live. They both annoy the shit out of me.

Ladies, we will be shot for this

[mistiejourney]

Thank God I am not alone. Faithfully & Open Arms are NOT quite the worst Journey songs but I really could care less if I ever heard them again as long as I live. They both annoy the shit out of me.

Ladies, we will be shot for this

{Ducking }

[Matthew]

9 pages on Jon Cain?, never thought I'd see that here.

There are more Jonathan Cain fans than you might imagine, Moon. In fact, I was delighted to see that 25% of MR members voted that Cain was "an angel" in a recent poll.

[Matthew]

Well that's what my psychic said....

At last...Susie names her source...

[Wheels Of Fyre]

9 pages on Jon Cain?, never thought I'd see that here.

There are more Jonathan Cain fans than you might imagine, Moon. In fact, I was delighted to see that 25% of MR members voted that Cain was "an angel" in a recent poll.

That blew me away, too.

Ultimately, I'm a JC fan. This empowers me to cheer when I think he's done something good and jeer when I think not. In your comment that opened this long and tiresome thread (mostly about you and your ever-inflating ego) you unfairly compare JC with JSS.

As I tried pointing out: JC was a nobody when he joined JOURNEY and replaced a somebody in Gregg Rolie. As I see it, JOURNEY launched JC's career rather than him launching theirs! That's another argument entirely. What I'm saying is that out of all of the nobodies that have joined JOURNEY (including SP) JSS was perhaps the most qualified nobody. I think the potential with ihm at the helm was equal to if not greater than it was when JC replaced GR.

I think that's the fair and reasonable way to look at it. Your comments seem to say, "JSS toured for a scant few months but JC's been with them for years therefore he's more worthy of our admiration and JOURNEY's commitment." So what did you say when JC replaced Gregg Rolie? Did you not see the potential in JC or did he have to earn your admiration?

[Matthew]

I think the potential with ihm at the helm was equal to if not greater than it was when JC replaced GR.

Fyre - you know I love your posts and have even defended your most obscure metaphysical ramblings - but this comment reveals a frightening detachment from reality.

Your comments seem to say, "JSS toured for a scant few months but JC's been with them for years therefore he's more worthy of our admiration and JOURNEY's commitment." So what did you say when JC replaced Gregg Rolie? Did you not see the potential in JC or did he have to earn your admiration?

If they'd fired Jonathan Cain after eight months I would also say...thanks for the contribution but you haven't had the opportunity to earn the same affection and respect I feel for the long-standing members of the band.

And - again! - you avoid the name of the guy who disproves this claim of yours that Journey have the midas touch when it comes to nobodies. Well, that name is of course...Steve Augeri.

An interesting side-note for those who are vastly over-inflating JSS's contribution to the band - and indeed the potential of that line-up in the market and the media. The new issue of Classic Rock magazine - the biggest and most mainstream magazine about CR/AOR in the UK - devotes one tiny column to JSS' departure. And that's after they gave him a poor review in March for the live show.

I don't share the attitude of this magazine - but when I saw that tiny article yesterday it made me realise how insignificant the events which have given everyone a nervous breakdown on this forum are to most people who follow this type of music.

[Red13JoePa]

Qu

9 pages on Jon Cain?, never thought I'd see that here.

There are more Jonathan Cain fans than you might imagine, Moon. In fact, I was delighted to see that 25% of MR members voted that Cain was "an angel" in a recent poll.

Yep.

Me, you and Abitaman.

Quite the voter turnout I'd say.

[Matthew]

Qu

9 pages on Jon Cain?, never thought I'd see that here.

There are more Jonathan Cain fans than you might imagine, Moon. In fact, I was delighted to see that 25% of MR members voted that Cain was "an angel" in a recent poll.

Yep.

Me, you and Abitaman.

Quite the voter turnout I'd say.

Yes - maybe I ought to have explained that only 7 people voted for that option. BUT it's how they work out TV ratings isn't it? I believe it's called a 'representative sample' in the trade.

[conversationpc]

I think the potential with ihm at the helm was equal to if not greater than it was when JC replaced GR.

Fyre - you know I love your posts and have even defended your most obscure metaphysical ramblings - but this comment reveals a frightening detachment from reality.

Ummm...Yeah. Fyre is off his rocker on this one.

[ArnelRox]

[ArnelRox]

[ArnelRox]

[conversationpc]

I think the potential with ihm at the helm was equal to if not greater than it was when JC replaced GR.

Fyre - you know I love your posts and have even defended your most obscure metaphysical ramblings - but this comment reveals a frightening detachment from reality.

Ummm...Yeah. Fyre is off his rocker on this one.

Yeah Dave. That might well be the sanest thing Fyre has EVER said.

Insane, you mean.

[ArnelRox]

[Matthew]

John, u have to realize that Matthew only discovered Journey AFTER Friga came on board

Very true - a mere 21 years ago....

& the syrupy ballads turn him on.

I'm not a fan of Open Arms - but Faithfully and WCTNGOF kill me....

Also consider his general taste in music. He LOVES Air Supply & Barry Manilow.

Comments like this do beg the question...why do you spend half your life on a wimpy AOR forum, Susie?

The real reason he likes Perry is b/c he sang Friga's songs.

And that's why I love Augeri too.

[ArnelRox]

[Red13JoePa]

25% of 28 votes...

Yea but mine was more to tweak the Cain bashers more than anything.

never met the dude, so I don't know either way.

[ArnelRox]

[Matthew]

Some of us fell in love w/Journey before Friga. That's my point.

Really? What anb extraordinary revelation? That changes everything....

Oh sweet Jesus, I would NEVER lump Air Supply & Manilow in the same category as Journey.

Go to a Metallica forum and see what they would make of your machismo about being a Journey fan....